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RE: [baseballmn] Was Gardy Watching?

If Nathan's going to do so in a few key situations only, it won't be in April.




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From: gln87@...
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 02:13:57 +0000
Subject: Re: [baseballmn] Was Gardy Watching?


Agreed.  Terry Francona has (successfully) used Papelbon that way as well.
 
Gregg N.
 
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From: Rittfam4@aol.com

Since Gardy was suspended tonight, did he have time to watch the last 2 innings of the White Sox-KC game between 5:30 and 6:00?
KC led 8-2 entering the 8th.  Sox scored 4 in top of 8th and had runners at 2nd and 3rd with 1 out.  Trey Hillman then brought in ..............Joakim Soria!!!!!  His closer!!!!  With 5 outs to go!!!!!!!!
Soria induced a pinch-hit Sac Fly from A.J. to make it 8-7, then struck out Uribe.
In the 9th, Soria went: Walk, GDP, K to get a 5-out save.  KC wins 9-7(they got an 8th inning HR from Olivo).
 
I keep thinking back to the 2-game series at Detroit in mid-April when Neshek, Guerrier, Crain, Reyes, Bass blew 8th inning leads in both games.  I think the first game the Twins led by 6 entering bottom of 8th.  Nathan never got into either game.   Same thing happened in another game recently, too. Those 3 losses may come back to haunt the Twins if they narrowly miss playoffs.

For all the money they are paying Nathan, I would think that maybe 5 or 6 times a year he would be able to pitch more than 1 inning. Not all the time, just 5 or 6 times a year.  I can only hope that Gardy was watching that CHW-KC game today.

Paul R.




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Since Gardy was suspended tonight, did he have time to watch the last 2 innings of the White Sox-KC game between 5:30 and 6:00? KC led 8-2 entering the 8th.?...
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Agreed. Terry Francona has (successfully) used Papelbon that way as well. Gregg N. ... From: Rittfam4@... Since Gardy was suspended tonight, did he have...
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If Nathan's going to do so in a few key situations only, it won't be in April. To: baseballmn@yahoogroups.com From: gln87@... Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008...
ROBERT THOLKES
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... in April. ... Why not? The wins and losses in April count the same as the ones in September....
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Aug 4, 2008
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Most teams-- those not stuffed with veterans of known capacity-- don't seem to act that way. They seem to be still auditioning players, particularly pitchers,...
ROBERT THOLKES
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While talking about the role of closers, consider the following hypothetical situation: A team's right-handed closer ("Jason") takes over in the 9'th wih a 1-...
C. Mead
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Aug 4, 2008
8:47 pm

Yeah, that gets to the point I was thinking when I read the start of this thread. More than whether Gardenhire will pitch Nathan for more than an inning now...
Alan R. Holst
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Aug 4, 2008
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I think Alan is probably right. It seems to be determined by the need to stroke the closer, or to avoid crititcism for deviating from orthodoxy, or something....
C. Mead
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Aug 5, 2008
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And just once some "pioneering" manager will bring in Sandy with the bases loaded to replace Jason and he will blow the game. That will be the end of that...
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Aug 5, 2008
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Well sure, it's a percentage move, no guarantees; but certainly one's chances of retiring the batter are improved if you bring in the lefty. And ANY manager...
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