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--- In baseballmn@yahoogroups.com, "Alan R. Holst"
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> Last year Dan Haren gave up 15 while Chien-Ming Wang gave up only 2.
Yet the A's as a team made only 2 more errors than the Yankees did.
How do we explain that?

Clutch pitching.

> For example, last year -- playing on the same team in the same park
with the same defense behind them -- Jake Peavy gave up 3 more homers,
14 more extra base hits, and 46 more baserunners than Chris Young. Yet
Peavy gave up only 1 more run than Young. How is that not simply a
matter of luck?

Clutch pitching.

- John




Wed Jun 4, 2008 10:45 pm

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Dear Baseball Experts, In case some of you missed it, here's how the Pirates-Cards game ended on Friday, May 30. The cards had a 5-1 lead at home going into ...
C. Mead
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Jun 1, 2008
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Would it have been a better ruling to give him the win if he had given up the lead and Cards came back in the bottom of the 9th? As much as I had the way...
Alan R. Holst
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Jun 2, 2008
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Almost, but not quite....
C. Mead
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Jun 2, 2008
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When you look at how wins and losses have affected who has been elected to the Hall of Fame, who has been chosen Cy Young Award winners, who has been labelled...
Alan R. Holst
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Jun 3, 2008
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ERA is imperfect, of course. For one thing, with fielding averages being what they are, we should drop the idea of earned runs vs. unearned runs. Last year...
Alan R. Holst
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Jun 4, 2008
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OK. But aren't all pitching statistics pretty far from perfect? I've wanted to some correlation studies on things like K/9, K/BB, Ground Ball %, etc, but the...
John Bonnes
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Jun 4, 2008
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Agreed. That's why, despite it's problems, I thought I had endoresed ERA (in combination with IP) as a good measure, at least for careers. But obviously I...
Alan R. Holst
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Jun 5, 2008
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A rough-and-ready way to combine ERA with IP is (IP/ERA). I've used it a little bit. Of course, it applies to starters, not really to relievers, certainly...
C. Mead
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Jun 5, 2008
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... Another formula I like is to take ERA x IP / 9. I call it Expected Runs, or ER for short. It correlates well with the actual runs given up, except on...
John Gregory
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Jun 5, 2008
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... Yet the A's as a team made only 2 more errors than the Yankees did. How do we explain that? Clutch pitching. ... with the same defense behind them -- Jake...
John Gregory
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Jun 4, 2008
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Thankfully, I know John, and he's kidding. .. right John? ... To: baseballmn@...: ashbury@...: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 22:45:18...
Alan R. Holst
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Jun 5, 2008
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... It was clutch of Peavy to appear in those 50 extra innings. Young should have demonstrated the same intestinal fortitude. It was clutch of Wang to have...
John Gregory
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Jun 5, 2008
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Actually, it is pretty clutch for a pitcher to do well while dealing with Jeter's defense, especially if the captain is not expected to find the bag and all...
Alan R. Holst
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Jun 6, 2008
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I have to admit I really got a chuckle out of this one. In a message dated 6/5/2008 10:49:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, alanholstfamily@... writes: ...
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Me too. ... dealing with ... the bag and ... Watch "Cooking with ... &NCID=aolfod00030000000002)...
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