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#3773 From: "Larry Granillo" <lar@...>
Date: Sat May 23, 2009 10:41 pm
Subject: Determining Standings 		lgranill
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What is the actual algorithm for determining how many games behind a team is on

a given date? I mean, I can do it in my head, but I'd like to be able to do it

programatically.



I found a thread on Google Answers with some details

(http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=234414). It describes the

formula as:

(1/2) * ((WA - WB) + (LB - LA))



That looks to be spot on to me, especially considering the way MLB.com describes

"Games Behind": 'GB - Games behind, the average of the differences between the

leading team wins and the trailing team wins, and the leading team losses and

trailing team losses'



Can someone confirm this is right? Is this how Baseball Reference does it? And,

if so, what's the answer to the question at the end of the Google Answers

thread: if Team A is 2-0 and Team B is 5-1, who is in first place? do we go by

Games Behind or Winning PCT?



Thanks for the help.



Larry

http://www.wezen-ball.com


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#3774 From: "Clem Comly" <ccomly@...>
Date: Tue May 26, 2009 5:07 am
Subject: Re: Determining Standings 		ccomly2003
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That looks correct.  Standings are by winning % so the team with 0 G.B. is not necessarily in first place.
 
Clem Comly
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Subject: [baseball-databank] Determining Standings

What is the actual algorithm for determining how many games behind a team is on a given date? I mean, I can do it in my head, but I'd like to be able to do it programatically.

I found a thread on Google Answers with some details (http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=234414). It describes the formula as:
(1/2) * ((WA - WB) + (LB - LA))

That looks to be spot on to me, especially considering the way MLB.com describes "Games Behind": 'GB - Games behind, the average of the differences between the leading team wins and the trailing team wins, and the leading team losses and trailing team losses'

Can someone confirm this is right? Is this how Baseball Reference does it? And, if so, what's the answer to the question at the end of the Google Answers thread: if Team A is 2-0 and Team B is 5-1, who is in first place? do we go by Games Behind or Winning PCT?

Thanks for the help.

Larry
http://www.wezen-ball.com


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#3775 From: "Tangotiger" <tom@...>
Date: Tue May 26, 2009 3:05 pm
Subject: Re: Determining Standings 		tom@...
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> That looks correct.  Standings are by winning % so the team with 0 G.B. is

> not necessarily in first place.

>

> Clem Comly



There is no "official" way, is there?  The convention is whatever it is.

In some sports, they simply show whoever has the most "points", pts% be

damned.



The only time it matters is when an official function like waiver wire or

draft picks requires standings.  In that case, I presume it is win% and

pts% that rules the day.



Tom


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#3812 From: Larry Granillo <lar@...>
Date: Sat May 23, 2009 10:23 pm
Subject: Determining Standings 		lgranill
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What is the actual algorithm for determining how many games behind a team is on a given date? I mean, I can do it in my head, but I'd like to be able to do it programatically.

I found a thread on Google Answers with some details (http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=234414). It describes the formula as:
(1/2) * ((WA - WB) + (LB - LA))

That looks to be spot on to me, especially considering the way MLB.com describes "Games Behind": 'GB - Games behind, the average of the differences between the leading team wins and the trailing team wins, and the leading team losses and trailing team losses'

Can someone confirm this is right? Is this how Baseball Reference does it? And, if so, what's the answer to the question at the end of the Google Answers thread: if Team A is 2-0 and Team B is 5-1, who is in first place? do we go by Games Behind or Winning PCT?

Thanks for the help.

Larry
http://www.wezen-ball.com

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#3815 From: Tom Stillman <giantsfan_94121@...>
Date: Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:15 am
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I believe the standings are given by winning percentage.  I do recall early in the season sometimes where the first place team is 1/2 GB.

Tom Stillman


--- On Sat, 5/23/09, Larry Granillo <lar@...> wrote:

From: Larry Granillo <lar@...>
Subject: [baseball-databank] Determining Standings
To: baseball-databank@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 23, 2009, 3:23 PM

 

What is the actual algorithm for determining how many games behind a team is on a given date? I mean, I can do it in my head, but I'd like to be able to do it programatically.

I found a thread on Google Answers with some details (http://answers. google.com/ answers/threadvi ew?id=234414). It describes the formula as:
(1/2) * ((WA - WB) + (LB - LA))

That looks to be spot on to me, especially considering the way MLB.com describes "Games Behind": 'GB - Games behind, the average of the differences between the leading team wins and the trailing team wins, and the leading team losses and trailing team losses'

Can someone confirm this is right? Is this how Baseball Reference does it? And, if so, what's the answer to the question at the end of the Google Answers thread: if Team A is 2-0 and Team B is 5-1, who is in first place? do we go by Games Behind or Winning PCT?

Thanks for the help.

Larry
http://www.wezen- ball.com



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#3827 From: craig timberlake <craigt58@...>
Date: Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:02 pm
Subject: RE: Determining Standings 		craigt58
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I believe it's winning percentage...but usually that only happens when there is an uneven number of games(or in head to head fantasy where they count ties, I actually finished second this year with 2 more wins). You can be 1/2 game behind with 1 less win or 1 more loss.  Then they will play a make up game:if you win, you're tied, if not you're out. That's why they always say a game will be made up "only if necessary".
 
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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:15:07 -0700
Subject: Re: [baseball-databank] Determining Standings

 
I believe the standings are given by winning percentage.  I do recall early in the season sometimes where the first place team is 1/2 GB.

Tom Stillman


--- On Sat, 5/23/09, Larry Granillo <lar@...> wrote:

From: Larry Granillo <lar@...>
Subject: [baseball-databank] Determining Standings
To: baseball-databank@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 23, 2009, 3:23 PM

 

What is the actual algorithm for determining how many games behind a team is on a given date? I mean, I can do it in my head, but I'd like to be able to do it programatically.

I found a thread on Google Answers with some details (http://answers. google.com/ answers/threadvi ew?id=234414). It describes the formula as:
(1/2) * ((WA - WB) + (LB - LA))

That looks to be spot on to me, especially considering the way MLB.com describes "Games Behind": 'GB - Games behind, the average of the differences between the leading team wins and the trailing team wins, and the leading team losses and trailing team losses'

Can someone confirm this is right? Is this how Baseball Reference does it? And, if so, what's the answer to the question at the end of the Google Answers thread: if Team A is 2-0 and Team B is 5-1, who is in first place? do we go by Games Behind or Winning PCT?

Thanks for the help.

Larry
http://www.wezen- ball.com



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#3816 From: "Clem Comly" <ccomly@...>
Date: Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:27 pm
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It is correct.  Standings list by win% so first place team can be GB second place team.  The team that is 0 GB is the team with the highest net wins (W-L).
 
Clem Comly
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 6:23 PM
Subject: [baseball-databank] Determining Standings

 

What is the actual algorithm for determining how many games behind a team is on a given date? I mean, I can do it in my head, but I'd like to be able to do it programatically.

I found a thread on Google Answers with some details (http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=234414). It describes the formula as:
(1/2) * ((WA - WB) + (LB - LA))

That looks to be spot on to me, especially considering the way MLB.com describes "Games Behind": 'GB - Games behind, the average of the differences between the leading team wins and the trailing team wins, and the leading team losses and trailing team losses'

Can someone confirm this is right? Is this how Baseball Reference does it? And, if so, what's the answer to the question at the end of the Google Answers thread: if Team A is 2-0 and Team B is 5-1, who is in first place? do we go by Games Behind or Winning PCT?

Thanks for the help.

Larry
http://www.wezen-ball.com


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