... Data format - anything rational. Source notes - following from Tom's proposals, we'd want to know your source(s). The admin might ask for clarification...
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Sean Forman
sforman71
May 1, 2004 10:29 am
... This is starting to look a bit onerous. The current conversation is about the mechanics of how to make the changes and how to store the changes, which is...
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Derek Adair
D_Adair
May 1, 2004 8:02 pm
... What specifically is looking onerous? ... I strongly agree we should have a standard for cvs log messages. ... My thoughts on this approach are already...
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tjruane
May 1, 2004 9:27 pm
... I think so. I am assuming you are going to continue using the official fielding data for outfielders. I would certainly recommend that since in many...
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tangotiger
May 1, 2004 11:08 pm
... Hmmm... this would imply then that any nonofficial breakdown that we present, say splitting data between starts and reliefs, or vs LH/RH (can't think of a...
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tjruane
May 2, 2004 12:35 am
... Not at all. There's a light year of difference between fielding statistics and the batting/pitching stats. There is close to 100% agreement between the...
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Mike Emeigh
mwemeigh
May 2, 2004 1:43 am
Tom Ruane wrote: (snip) ... and that is *especially* true with respect to fielding data. Fielding data is especially error-prone, because no one bothered to...
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Paul Wendt
pgw02472
May 3, 2004 2:06 pm
"Re: Means of Updating and Correcting" focuses on the revision control system to be implemented by Admins and Sean F, using CVS, SQL, etc. It seems to me that...
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tangotiger
May 3, 2004 3:14 pm
... We should separate people from roles. Take me, for example. I would only be admin. I have no interest to be anything else. Sean Forman may enjoy the...
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Paul Wendt
pgw02472
May 3, 2004 10:01 pm
I agree that roles should be distinguished from people, and I intended that by capitalizing Admin and User (Tom's term for the provider of new or revised date...
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Derek Adair
D_Adair
May 3, 2004 10:16 pm
... For the most part, I'm simply listening in the discussion of the functions of the Middle role, since I'm not sure what work best and I could go a number of...
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Paul Wendt
pgw02472
May 4, 2004 1:06 pm
Upon reading my prose and checing my archive one day later: ... Make that: Documentation of sources as recently illustrated by *Tom* (quoted below my ...
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Sean Forman
sforman71
May 6, 2004 1:45 pm
... I think it is going to be VERY hard to figure out how to structure this process before actually having to use it. I know that is circular, but I'm more of...
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Sean Forman
sforman71
May 6, 2004 1:45 pm
... Steps 4, 5, 6, 7 are where it is starting to look onerous, though I may be overreacting. I'm just trying to imagine running through Bill Carle's bimonthly...
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tangotiger
May 6, 2004 2:23 pm
... It might be beneficial if you can list out how you can your corrections. For example, I know nothing about the newsletter that you refer to. And, I see...
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Sean Forman
sforman71
May 6, 2004 2:42 pm
... Tom, why haven't you joined SABR? I just don't get it. You would be a natural. There have been about 500-600 biographical corrections since the last db ...
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tangotiger
May 6, 2004 3:33 pm
... Thanks, but I'm trying to clean my hobbies plate as much as possible. (Not that I'm having much luck, but lately, I'm getting there.) I know that I'd...
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Derek Adair
D_Adair
May 6, 2004 3:53 pm
... I definitely think you'd want to group the corrections. I think of them more as a change set than a change to a single value. For example, "Added ROE...
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Sean Forman
sforman71
May 6, 2004 8:58 pm
... I'm not necessarily saying it would be a problem in a system with one user, but imagine that I download the text CVS file from the server. Aardsma Aaron ...
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tangotiger
May 6, 2004 9:36 pm
... That's a great point. Having every table dumped into text files by key order would seem to be the best solution. Not sure how MySQL does the dumps, but an...
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tangotiger
May 6, 2004 9:36 pm
... That's a great point. Having every table dumped into text files by key order would seem to be the best solution. Not sure how MySQL does the dumps, but an...
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Sean Forman
sforman71
May 6, 2004 9:42 pm
... That would solve the problem. Is there a chance that this will be a problem in any other db system? For instance, if an admin uses access, etc.? Also,...
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tangotiger
May 7, 2004 1:38 pm
... With Access and Oracle, it won't be a problem. For any DB, just create a query/view that will export exactly as you want it. ... Hmmm.... that would mean...
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Paul Wendt
pgw02472
May 7, 2004 2:18 pm
... . . . ... If technically doable with the necy variety of DB management programs, yet a practical issue: If Admin neglects this step 5% of the time, what is...
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tangotiger
May 7, 2004 2:29 pm
... The cost is that the cvs-delta would be useless. However, you can get the "wrong" cvs version, load it in your DB, export it out, and, either replace the ...
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Derek Adair
D_Adair
May 7, 2004 2:51 pm
... This would not be as troublesome as the line order, since cvs has options to ignore whitespace while doing diffs (so you wouldn't lose differences). There...
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Derek Adair
D_Adair
May 7, 2004 2:56 pm
... It does. You wouldn't necessarily need to use it, though. At any time, you could check out an older version, order it how you wanted and then compare the...
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baseball-databank@yah...
May 8, 2004 3:00 am
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the baseball-databank group. File :...
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tjruane
May 8, 2004 3:17 am
I have just uploaded a file containing a first pass at some of the data addition we have discussed, both here and over at Retrolist, during the last few...
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tangotiger
May 8, 2004 1:23 pm
Great stuff! My comments are interspersed... ... Now this is an interesting category. One thing that I do that others may like is simply %PA against LH and...
