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Re: Retrosheet Misc Batting and Pitching Stats

Charles,

Most of your suggestions shouldn't be difficult to implement. I
had a feeling that I should have used outs for batted balls.
Although seperating "Outs on Base" from the batted-ball categories
would be a pain. For instance, a single where the batter gets thrown
out at second-base would get counted as a ground-ball out. Would you
be OK with this. If you prefer, I can look at the baserunner fields
and remove these plays from GB and FB outs.

For Sacrifice Bunt Attempts, I'll use any bunt that occurrs during a
sacrifice situation. Bunt Hits and Bunt Hit attempts we'll be easy.
MGL uses infield hits, I think this would be more useful than Bunt
Hits. I don't think I want to attempt to measure "Runners moved up."
Should RBI Opportunities include situations where there is only 1
baserunner and he's on first base, in other words, anytime there is
a player on-base?

The defensive stats you suggested would be great to have. I can
categorize pickoffs for pitchers and catchers as well. This will
take some time. Give me at least a week to compile this stuff. If
there are any other categories you'd like to see, post them here or
email me.


--- In baseball-databank@yahoogroups.com, "Charles Saeger"
<rasputin@...> wrote:
>
> --- In baseball-databank@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Carter"
<terpsfan101@> wrote:
>
> > Ground Balls
> > Fly Balls
> > Line Drives
> > Popups
>
> For pre-1980 years, the differences between these will blur in the
data, and you won't
> have hits. I'd just go for:
>
> Air Outs - Pulled
> Ground Outs - Pulled
>
> Pitchers have just Air Outs and Ground Outs.
>
> And a record of bunts:
>
> Sacrifice Attempts - Sacrifices - Hits - Errors
> Bunt for a Hit Attempts - Hits
> Squeeze Attempts - Squeezes
>
> Pitchers would have a mirrored record. I'd also consider something
like Runners Moved Up
> and some sort of RBI Opportunity.
>
> For fielders, have Independent Putouts and Assists, those being
ones the fielder started,
> and Double Plays Started and Turned, and opportunities for the
Double Plays. Separate
> errors by those that put a runner on base, those that allow an
existing runner to advance,
> and other, mostly muffed foul flies that don't do much.
>





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I have compiled additional batting and pitching statistics from Retrosheet Play by Play data and wanted to share them here. I've linked the Retro ID's to the...
Dave Carter
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Dave - Thanks so much for your efforts from the baseball databank group! I was wondering if you could show me a thing or two. Also I was wondering if you knew...
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Sep 26, 2008
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Matt, I don't know anything about scraping data. The basic data (AB,H,...)is already in the BDB database. Unless you wanted to derive the basic data for 2008....
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... Join RetroSQL yahoo group. Tom...
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... For pre-1980 years, the differences between these will blur in the data, and you won't have hits. I'd just go for: Air Outs - Pulled Ground Outs - Pulled ...
Charles Saeger
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Sep 27, 2008
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Charles, Most of your suggestions shouldn't be difficult to implement. I had a feeling that I should have used outs for batted balls. Although seperating "Outs...
Dave Carter
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Sep 29, 2008
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I guess that I could throw out some of the baserunning categories. Here's my new list: Batting: XI ROE ROE SH ROE SF RFC RFC SH PkO CS PkO PkO Error GB FB LD ...
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