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Re: Games played

Hello all,
Looking through the archives, I see that John asked the question I
was about to ask, but I don't see where it was ever answered.
Basically the question is: How do you determine games played for
those appearing in both the batting and pitching tables?

I merged the batting and pitching tables (from the Lahman Access
version) and found this:
Batting.G = Pitching.G 28,885 cases
Batting.G < Pitching.G 2,521 cases
(All but 6 of these are 1997-2004. 2005 has none of these cases)
Batting.G > Pitching.G 5492 cases
(These are spread evenly across all years and appear to reflect
normal examples of position players doing some pitching. For these I
assume that Batting.G is the correct number of games played.)

Anybody got solution?

Thanks,
Tom


--- In baseball-databank@yahoogroups.com, "john_rickert"
<rickert@...> wrote:
>
>
> Is there any plan to put players games played in the baseball
databank?
>
> Before 1998, everyone's games played was included in the Batting
file,
> but since then, the pitchers' totals are no longer listed in
either section.
> e.g. last year, Johann Santana appeared in 34 games.
> In the batting section Santana is listed as batting in 2 games
(presumably
> interleague games)
> in the pitching section, he is listed as pitching in 34 games.
>
> Randy Johnson appeared in 35 games.
> Johnson is listed as batting in 33 games, pitching in 35.
>
> Brooks Kieschnick appeared in 77 games.
> Kieschnick is listed as batting in 75 games, pitching in 32.
> How do we determine the actual number of games played for
Kieschnick.
>
> And these are all obvious players. Most years, there is some
pitcher who makes some
> pinch running/pinch fielding appearance. How do we find these for
the years since inter-
> league play started?
>
> A less obvious player is Jason Simontacchi, who played in 15 games.
> Simontacchi is listed as batting in 14 games, pitching in 13.
>
> john rickert
>







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Is there any plan to put players games played in the baseball databank? Before 1998, everyone's games played was included in the Batting file, but since then,...
john_rickert
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Hello all, Looking through the archives, I see that John asked the question I was about to ask, but I don't see where it was ever answered. Basically the...
Tom Timmerman
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Sep 1, 2006
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Tom: Don't know if I have a "solution" but: 1. Batting.G = Pitching.G 28,885 cases. Should be no issue with these. 2. Batting.G < Pitching.G 2,521 cases (All...
KJOK
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Sep 1, 2006
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No. I found 8 Phillies pitchers from 2004 with Gp > Gb. Cormier was 5 low (per Retrosheet.org his P games were correct but his batting games were low)....
Clem Comly
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Sep 2, 2006
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I went thru the dailies at Retrosheet for a couple of these Phillies Ps--it looks like the missing Gb are for games on the road against AL teams so it appears...
Clem Comly
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Sep 2, 2006
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Whew, OK, had me worried for a second. DH games are the problem, for AL AND NL pitchers. I don't exactly remember the source of the data those years (Sean or...
KJOK
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Sep 3, 2006
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... For recent seasons, mlb.com is clearly only reporting games in which the pitcher actually appeared in the batting lineup. However, for earlier seasons, the...
Theodore Turocy
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Sep 3, 2006
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... For what it's worth, I understand from phone and email exchanges (months to years ago) that Pete Palmer has tried to implement this consistently. None of...
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I just looked at mlb.com and there Cormier has 5 less Gb than Gp in BOTH 2004 and 2005. Clem...
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