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Re: Unbalanced Statistics

Cliff -

I'm not sure if anyone else (other than Retrosheet efforts) is working
on this.

Regarding your other question, I think fixing problems in earlier
seasons is going to be difficult. I've been focusing on recent years
because these are generally easy to fix. For example, with the hits
allowed by Texas pitching in 1981 (a discrepancy of 40 hits), it seems
clear where the error lies. There are a number of published
references available (plus Retrosheet and other on-line sources), and
all of these agree, so I have no doubt that the BDB teams table was in
error.

With earlier seasons, things are often much less clear. There may be
fewer sources to consult, but the biggest problem is that there may be
different values for a particular stat from source to source (in many
cases, several different values). Trying to figure out which source
is correct is obviously not a straightforward process. Recomputing
stats from box scores or play by play data might be the only solution.

My thought is that it ought to be possible to get everything balanced
back to perhaps around 1960 (give or take a few years). I'd expect
another there to be another period where many, but not all of the
problems may be fixable. Beyond some point (I'm not quite sure
where), I think the chances of solving many of the problems drop
significantly.

Doug

--- In baseball-databank@yahoogroups.com, "cliffordblau" <brak2.0@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In baseball-databank@yahoogroups.com, "dsreyn" <dreynolds@> wrote:
> >
> > Cliff -
> >
> > See post 2977 for some information on discrepancies in the data. In
> > short, there are quite a few cases where individual totals don't add
> > to the team totals, and where batting and pitching totals for a season
> > don't balance.
> >
> > I've been working on tracking down some of these problems (though I
> > haven't done much of this lately). Posts 2930, 2931, 2932, 2933,
> > 2935, 2936, 2941, 2943, 2944, and 2951 have some proposed data
> > corrections (and follow-up discussion).
> >
> > Doug
>
> So I see, and one of the earlier posts tells how you've been going
> about this. (Not that I really understand what you mean by scripts.)
> Then my questions remain, is anyone besides you working on this
> problem, and what would it take to fix some of the large discrepancies
> in the earlier seasons?
>
> And don't let me forget: thanks for your efforts, Doug.
>
> Cliff
>







Fri May 12, 2006 2:29 pm

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I'm posting this to both Retrolist and Baseball Databank. Apologies to those who get it twice. I was aware of the problem of unbalanced statistics in distant...
Clifford Blau
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May 7, 2006
2:49 am

Cliff - See post 2977 for some information on discrepancies in the data. In short, there are quite a few cases where individual totals don't add to the team...
dsreyn
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May 9, 2006
5:59 pm

... So I see, and one of the earlier posts tells how you've been going about this. (Not that I really understand what you mean by scripts.) Then my questions...
cliffordblau
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May 10, 2006
12:56 am

Cliff - I'm not sure if anyone else (other than Retrosheet efforts) is working on this. Regarding your other question, I think fixing problems in earlier ...
dsreyn
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May 12, 2006
2:29 pm

I've looked at this off and on for a few years, mostly focusing on league totals for hitting and pitching.. Home Runs and Runs League Totals reconcile...
KJOK
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May 20, 2006
1:05 am

... I think the question is how to set priorities, including where it is worth doing at all. We (bb-db) should have a guide to major league statistics that...
Paul Wendt
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May 14, 2006
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