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Re: Unbalanced Statistics

Cliff -

See post 2977 for some information on discrepancies in the data. In
short, there are quite a few cases where individual totals don't add
to the team totals, and where batting and pitching totals for a season
don't balance.

I've been working on tracking down some of these problems (though I
haven't done much of this lately). Posts 2930, 2931, 2932, 2933,
2935, 2936, 2941, 2943, 2944, and 2951 have some proposed data
corrections (and follow-up discussion).

Doug

--- In baseball-databank@yahoogroups.com, Clifford Blau <brak2.0@...>
wrote:
>
> I'm posting this to both Retrolist and Baseball Databank. Apologies to
> those who get it twice.
>
> I was aware of the problem of unbalanced statistics in distant
seasons, but
> still I was surprised today. Upon commencing some research into
walks, I
> found some large discrepancies between batter and pitcher totals.
Taking
> 1911 for instance, there is a difference of 76 walks between the AL
batting
> and pitching totals. In the NL, for which Retrosheet has most PBP
and I
> believe all box scores, there is still a difference of 3. Other
statistics
> show discrepancies as well. Retrosheet has 2 more runs allowed by NL
> pitchers than NL teams scored. Baseball-Reference.com, on the other
hand,
> has the totals agreeing, with several teams having different totals
than
> Retrosheet shows. BB-Ref has the same differences in other categories,
> though. Does this mean that someone has reconciled the differences
in the
> runs columns, while leaving the others alone? Are incorrect numbers
shown
> by Retrosheet because they are the official ones?
>
> Is anyone trying to reconcile these other differences? Is this
something
> that relatively easy to do now, at least for the seasons Retrosheet
has all
> box scores?
>
>
> Cliff Blau
> http://mysite.verizon.net/brak2.0
>








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I'm posting this to both Retrolist and Baseball Databank. Apologies to those who get it twice. I was aware of the problem of unbalanced statistics in distant...
Clifford Blau
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May 7, 2006
2:49 am

Cliff - See post 2977 for some information on discrepancies in the data. In short, there are quite a few cases where individual totals don't add to the team...
dsreyn
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May 9, 2006
5:59 pm

... So I see, and one of the earlier posts tells how you've been going about this. (Not that I really understand what you mean by scripts.) Then my questions...
cliffordblau
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May 10, 2006
12:56 am

Cliff - I'm not sure if anyone else (other than Retrosheet efforts) is working on this. Regarding your other question, I think fixing problems in earlier ...
dsreyn
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May 12, 2006
2:29 pm

I've looked at this off and on for a few years, mostly focusing on league totals for hitting and pitching.. Home Runs and Runs League Totals reconcile...
KJOK
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May 20, 2006
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... I think the question is how to set priorities, including where it is worth doing at all. We (bb-db) should have a guide to major league statistics that...
Paul Wendt
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May 14, 2006
4:46 pm
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