Bill Knight & others,

The Baltimore Orioles were one base ball club, 1882 to 1899.
Around 1890, managed by Bill Barnie and owned by Harry von der Horst.

After the 1889 season, the Brooklyn, Cinci, Baltimore, and Kansas City
clubs abandoned their AA franchises (*in the business of baseball, not the
baseball database sense). The first two received NL franchises (a sure
thing, if not formally arranged in advance; the cities were coveted).
Baltimore and KC joined minor leagues. The AA awarded franchises to three
strong minor league clubs and to a new club in Brooklyn. The latter
folded mid-season and the Baltimore Orioles replaced it.

When the NL and AA merged after the 1891 season, the 8 NL clubs and 4 of
the AA clubs including Baltimore retained their franchises*.

teamID BL3 apparently identifies that franchise* but I don't think teamID
generally does that. The structure isn't easy to perfect; I'm not sure it
is worth improving short of incorporating minor and independent clubs.

There has been some mention of a clubs project for the SABR 19c Cmte.

P/\/ \/\/t
Paul Wendt, Watertown MA, USA <pgw@...>
Chair, 19th Century Committee, SABR
Owner-Administrator, 19cBB (egroup at Yahoo)


> Why do the 1890 and 1891 A.A. Baltimore Orioles have a different
> teamID (BL3) than the A.A. Baltimore Orioles from 1882 to 1889 (BL2)?
>
> select name, teamid, lgid, yearid from teams where franchid = "BLO"
>
> +-------------------+--------+------+--------+
> | name | teamid | lgid | yearid |
> +-------------------+--------+------+--------+
> | Baltimore Orioles | BL2 | AA | 1882 |
> | Baltimore Orioles | BL2 | AA | 1883 |
> | Baltimore Orioles | BL2 | AA | 1884 |
> | Baltimore Orioles | BL2 | AA | 1885 |
> | Baltimore Orioles | BL2 | AA | 1886 |
> | Baltimore Orioles | BL2 | AA | 1887 |
> | Baltimore Orioles | BL2 | AA | 1888 |
> | Baltimore Orioles | BL2 | AA | 1889 |
> | Baltimore Orioles | BL3 | AA | 1890 |
> | Baltimore Orioles | BL3 | AA | 1891 |
> +-------------------+--------+------+--------+
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bill Knight