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Re: Different teamID's for A.A. Baltimore teams


I believe it's because the original team of AA Baltimore Orioles
dropped out of the AA after the 1889 season.

In the 1890 season, when the Brooklyn Gladiators folded in August,
the Baltimore team playing in the Atlantic Association took their
place in the AA for the remainder of the 1890 season as the "new"
Baltimore Orioles. This team then later transferred to the NL.

THANKS,
Kevin Johnson


--- In baseball-databank@yahoogroups.com, "wknight94"
<wknight94@y...> wrote:
>
> Why do the 1890 and 1891 A.A. Baltimore Orioles have a different
> teamID (BL3) than the A.A. Baltimore Orioles from 1882 to 1889
(BL2)?
>
>
> select name, teamid, lgid, yearid from teams where franchid = "BLO"
>
> +-------------------+--------+------+--------+
> | name | teamid | lgid | yearid |
> +-------------------+--------+------+--------+
> | Baltimore Orioles | BL2 | AA | 1882 |
> | Baltimore Orioles | BL2 | AA | 1883 |
> | Baltimore Orioles | BL2 | AA | 1884 |
> | Baltimore Orioles | BL2 | AA | 1885 |
> | Baltimore Orioles | BL2 | AA | 1886 |
> | Baltimore Orioles | BL2 | AA | 1887 |
> | Baltimore Orioles | BL2 | AA | 1888 |
> | Baltimore Orioles | BL2 | AA | 1889 |
> | Baltimore Orioles | BL3 | AA | 1890 |
> | Baltimore Orioles | BL3 | AA | 1891 |
> +-------------------+--------+------+--------+
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bill Knight






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Why do the 1890 and 1891 A.A. Baltimore Orioles have a different teamID (BL3) than the A.A. Baltimore Orioles from 1882 to 1889 (BL2)? select name, teamid,...
wknight94
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Oct 2, 2004
3:46 am

I believe it's because the original team of AA Baltimore Orioles dropped out of the AA after the 1889 season. In the 1890 season, when the Brooklyn Gladiators...
KJOK
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Oct 3, 2004
5:51 am

Bill Knight & others, The Baltimore Orioles were one base ball club, 1882 to 1899. Around 1890, managed by Bill Barnie and owned by Harry von der Horst. After...
Paul Wendt
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Oct 3, 2004
5:17 pm

... The present IDs enable selection of the whole 1882-1899 history and its subsets demarcated 1889-1890 or 1891-1892. What practical problems does it create?...
Paul Wendt
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Oct 3, 2004
5:19 pm

These are great explanations for why they have different team ID's. From the sounds of it, however, they should also have different franchise ID's. In fact,...
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Oct 4, 2004
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