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Re: [all_us_stickfighting] My own personal refection on the usefulness of centerline theory...


what exactaly are u saying here? You are using a lot
of words to say somethign that doesnt seem to require
that many. Everytime I thought I handle on your point
I got lost. Myhaps if had made a sumarry at the end it
might clarify things.
--- tecnogoblin@... wrote:

>
>
> Here are a few of my own personal refection on the
> usefulness of
> centerline theory....
>
> I have been a student of the martial arts since I
> was a very young
> boy... It was also as a young boy one of the most
> important lessons
> regarding the martial arts was given to me by my
> master Sensei Layne
> when he sat me and his son down and described
> centerline theory to us
> as such ... "When one finds themselves locked in
> combat with another a
> skilled fighter should imagine that their body has
> been divided in to
> two by a line that runs vertically from the top of
> the fighters head,
> down the fighters torso, between his or her legs and
> into the ground
> upon which they stand. In so doing a fighter take
> the first step in a
> process in coordinate the fighters body movements in
> a way that make
> even the smallest of movement a more effective tool
> for combat as well
> as the economics of defending one's self as a
> whole. This is know as
> the centerline theory.. "
>
> Now for an thirteen year old boy this isn't the
> easiest of ideas to
> really wrap your mind around. But as I got older and
> I gained a better
> understand of physics, human anatomy and geometry
> the wisdom of
> understanding and effectively employing the
> centerline theory in order
> to become a more effective fighter became clear to
> me... Well I should
> actually say when I stoped thinking of the
> centerline as just a line
> dividing my body but when I started to think of it
> also in terms of
> being a system of organization for my body and as a
> cental point to
> pivot off of that would alow me to seamlessly make a
> transition from
> defensive moment to offensive counter strike as well
> as generating
> power for that strike.
>
> Now for those of you who are reading this post that
> are still
> unconvinced on how critical it is to understand this
> simple fight
> principle well permit me to shed some light on the
> subject. For I
> honestly do belive the centerline theory is one one
> the most needed
> tools in a skilled fighters bag of tricks.
>
> Now as I have said before I have been a student of
> the martial art
> sine I was a small boy... So now that Im in my late
> 20's I have both
> read and heard far too many people say that the
> centerline theory only
> works due the logical fact it enabled a fighter to
> see fastest route
> to a target as well as making one's attacker take a
> longer route to
> his target. That being a straight line for the
> artist who understand
> centerline theory... And a long drawn out curved
> line for the fighter
> that must deal with this wisdom. Which really if one
> sits brakes down
> theory into plane simple terms is true, but in all
> honesty a martial
> artist that thinks of centerline theory along these
> terms fail to the
> true beauty found in centerline theory. That being
> as I said before
> when one thinks of centerline theory more so as a
> system of
> organization to use in battle with another.
>
> You see it the chaos and mental fog that comes when
> a fighter must
> fill his or her mind with questions of from where an
> attack may or may
> not come from so that he or she may launch an
> effective defense to
> that strike... Well in the end this slows down the
> speed of the
> response needed to keep the fighter alive in a
> fight. It is also do to
> this delay in mental speed which enable ones
> opponent a sure victory.
> For a response that comes too late is just as
> effective as no response
> at all. So how dose a student of the fighting arts
> clear his or her
> mind of all this mental clutter so that an effective
> defense may come
> when needed? Well in the words of my Sensei "Look
> towards the
> centerline for the answer to that riddle my young
> karateka"...
>
> If those of you who are reading this haven't figured
> it out yet my
> Master was a strong believer that a good teacher
> should always be more
> or less willing to let his student go discover their
> own answer to a
> question after the teacher in question had push his
> or her students on
> the right path to finding the answer. See by let us
> his students
> unravel the truth or knowledge we where seeking
> Master Layne also
> wanted to make sure we hard grown up enough by
> seeking out the answer
> to our question so that when we did find the answer
> we would also be
> adult enough to respect and understand that wisdom
> in the form of the
> answer for which we his students had worked so hard
> to get...
>
> So it should as come as no surprise that it wasn't
> in a dojo that the
> real beauty of centerline theory suddenly became
> clear to me but in my
> ninth grade science lab.
>
> It was right before the start of winter brake, and
> like most high
> school freshmen I was sitting at my desk franticly
> trying remember
> the names of all the bodies organs and systems when
> I notice some odd
> about how the human body was arranged. as far as I
> could tell your
> body really was divided in to two vertically..
> leavening you with a
> right and left side. Also most of the soft organs
> like your eyes,
> kidneys and genitals if your male where for the most
> part left open to
> getting damage due to even the smallest amount of
> impact one might get
> if he or she was kicked or punch in a fight. In f
> act ones brain and
> ones heart where the only organ safe to some degree
> from being damage
> if one had to defend oneself . This was because
> these organs had
> evolve some leave of protection because the had been
> to some degree
> encased by a protective wall of bone. It was also at
> this time I
> notice how close all these organs where to this
> inviable line we call
> the centerline.
>
> So by placing your hands so at all times in a
> fashion that allows you
> to protect your centerline you instantly rase your
> ability to defend
> yourself. For by defending you centerline you limit
> the effectiveness
> of any attack brought upon you by another in combat.
> The observance
> centerline theory as you act and react in combat
> allows a student of
> the fighting arts to generate even more power in his
> or her techniques
> then normal for it serves to give fluidity of
> movement to both the
> the legs of arms that are being use to strike or
> counter-strike in
> relation to the body.
>
> Yet an understanding of centerline theory also
> enabling a student to
> employ his entire body weight with each strike as
> the force of his or
> her own mass echos out from the center of gravity
> which is also where
> centerline can be found. So these fluid revolving
> movements from ones
> trunk or should I say hips create a most effective
> strike. In fact
> most arts make use of this type of body mechanic for
> there more
> powerful kicks or punches. Don't belive me? Look at
> any of the kicks
> use in karate or teakwondo that generate a great
> deal of power
> sufficient enough to stop ones attacker cold all
> make use of a
> pivoting off the center line via the hips to
> generate the power use in
> the kick.... Same can be said for the hook punch or
> cross punch used
> in kick boxing... Even some of the striking moves
> found in the stick
> fighting art of Modern Arnis make use of centerline
> theory. So as far
> as striking power goes the use of just one's own
> arm force alone is
> not enough to land a punch with real stopping power.
>
> It is also from one's centerline we are able to see
> the nucleus that
> makes up one true center of gravity. And as anyone
> who gone or watched
> one roller skate if your center of gravity is in
> the wrong position
> because your lean too far back or too far forward...
> Well you fall.
> The same is true in fighting. For a center of
> gravity that actually
> off center means your fighting off balanced. This
> leaves one who
> studies and practices any form of martial art
> vulnerable to being
> toppled over with just the smallest of outside
> stimuli given by an
> attacker. So yet once again understanding of
> centerline theory aids a
> student of the martial arts. For it understanding
> why and how to place
> the centerline or should I say one's center of
> gravity in the correct
> position to defend one's self at all time.
>
> Well these are just a few of my own personal
> refection on the
> usefulness of centerline theory. I invite all of you
> who have taken
> the time to read this to sit down and refect on how
> the you may or may
> not use the centerline theory in the different
> fighting arts we all
> study. I also thank each and every one of you for
> taking the time to
> read this....
>
> Tecnogoblin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Here are a few of my own personal refection on the usefulness of centerline theory.... I have been a student of the martial arts since I was a very young ...
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May I post this to my groups? Rick ... http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/CkUolB/TM ... ===== Kwik Tip Teaching Martial Arts A Guide for Parents...
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Sure... When you get right down to it getting people to talk and think about how the centerline relates to there are or doesn't is why I wrote this little...
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Naturally And thank you Rick ... http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/CkUolB/TM ... ===== Kwik Tip Teaching Martial Arts A Guide for Parents and...
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what exactaly are u saying here? You are using a lot of words to say somethign that doesnt seem to require that many. Everytime I thought I handle on your...
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