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#32 From: "Ramon Navarro" <ramonnavarro123@...>
Date: Wed Mar 2, 2005 12:48 pm
Subject: Re: I love Martial arts
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Hi and be blessed shoopdogy_d.

It depends on why do your knee hurts. Did your injured it ? or did
you made a wrong move ? Do you need terapy or corrct movement ?

I can not say to much not knowing what is the reason of your question
as a base to answer you and give a provable advise.

HAP

Ramon Navarro
HapKiDo SabomNim
Song Moo Kwan HapKiDo
Panama City Panama

--- In all-star-martial-arts-academy@yahoogroups.com, "shoopdogy_d"
<kb2sxw@g...> wrote:
> Can someone tell me how to perfect the round house kick? My knees
> hurt so bad from kicking any advice?

#31 From: "Ramon Navarro" <ramonnavarro123@...>
Date: Wed Mar 2, 2005 3:34 am
Subject: New to Group, I am from the Country of Panama
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Hi all and be blessed.

I am Ramon Navarro from the Country of Panama. I train and teach
HapKiDo since 1977. The system I study and teach is Song Moo Kwan
HapKiDo. This system, developed by Grand Master Park, SongIL 9th Dan
and direct student of Modern HapKiDo father Grand Master Ji, HanJae
10th Dan. He Mr. Park brought his Song Moo HapKiDo to the Country of
Panama in 1976 and I became his student assitent teaching all 3 of
his clases, Children, Youth & Adults since February 1977 and thanks
to God I am going on strong.

I am new to this group and glad that there are more groups that one
as a martial artist and as a teacher can comunicate with other ones
like me !

HAP


Ramon Navarro
HapKiDo SabomNim
Song Moo Kwan HapKiDo
Panama City Panama

#30 From: all-star-martial-arts-academy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 12:06 pm
Subject: File - MonthlyAnnouncement.txt
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EBOOKS SOFTWARE AFFILIATE PROGRAMS

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New News

Reminders and Free Groups

Kwik Self-Defense Tip

Sponsor

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Aloha all;

You may also view the
web page version of your
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Do you folks want this as an HTML
Attachment to Make it
Navigateable with links to the sections?

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5 TIME INTERNATIONAL
TOURNAMENT CHAMPION
Master Ron Pohnel
Costar of No Retreat No Surrender

Is putting his DVD together

7 Techniques to be a Champion

It contains drills and superbly
described and demonstrated
techniques he himself used
to become an international
champion 5 times over

I'll be taking orders for the DVD
For Master Pohnel who spoke
to me in person saying he
Will sell the DVD for only $29.00

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I'VE BEEN ASKED TO BE A MODERATOR for

http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/all_us_stickfighting

Here is a description of the group



The purpose of this group is two-fold.
First we hope to promote the deadly beauty
of one of the oldest and most useful martial arts
weapons ever used in human history. . .
the simple stick.

The second purpose of this group is to be an
online gathering place for all martial artist
training in full contact stick fighting so
they can come together and openly exchange
both their insights, theories & ideas with one
another surrounding the modern art of stick fighting.
You see it is my hope that by doing so we as
martial artist can enrich the art of stick fighting
as a whole regardless of where our styles may first
hailed from.

You may join this group by sending an email to

all_us_stickfighting-subscribe@yahoogroups.com


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I LIKE THE HEALTHY COFFEE

I promised you I'd keep you up to date
about the healthy coffee site and business I found
So far I've had the Mocha and the 3 in 1
and I like them both. I still have
to look to see why it's called
3 in 1
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ADDENDUM

It's called 3 in 1 because it contains cream,
sugar and coffee all in one easy
single-serve packet.

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WHOLE HEALTHY FOOD


I also found a site for whole food
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I'm going to see if I can replace my
son't potatoe chips and so forth
with something actually good for him
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If you wish to post martial arts or fitness ads,
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or upload your own articles use the files
section of

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Martial_Arts_Ads_And_Discussion-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

To help promote a printable ebook I wrote
called

Getting to and Through Dates to Meet And
Impress That Special Someone
A Male's Guide to asking that special
someone out and keeping her. But a Good
  guide For Ladies Too by J. Richard
Kirkham B.Sc. Behavioral Modification
and Sales Expert

I started this yahoo group

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Dating_Tips_And_Chat-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
Warning this group has one adult singles banner
so you should be 18 or older to join this
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The ebook can be found in the files section of
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Finally for FREE general advertising I started a group
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If you're pushing,
you could be punching.
Why not combine them

See Bring The Martial Artist Out from
Within for more drills

http://DefendYourSelf.notlong.com

If you have a Kwik Tip on
Any subject just send it to
me through this group or
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Be sure to send your website address
as well so I can include it with your
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PLEASE VISIT MY SPONSOR

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A super full time martial arts author
  - Master Keith Pascal

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Workout Timer – One of my most popular downloads.
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/Files/InternetPromotion

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/files/InternetMarketing/





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If you wish to post martial arts or fitness ads,
  discuss martial arts and fitness

or upload your own articles use the files
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Martial_Arts_Ads_And_Discussion-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

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2-1-2005

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Aloha everyone
Only personal news. We bought
the five year old his first real bed.
Hunter had been sleeping in a modified
crib, but now his head and feet almost
touch the ends. So we're having to get
all the stored stuff out of his
new bedroom.

If anyone has done this for their own
children you know how much fun that can
be.

I just joined a healthy coffee affiliate
program. Just got my coffee today and
IT IS GOOD. I'll keep you posted on that.

I'm also doing some pay per clicks for
advertising so if anyone has any
comments or questions about PPCs
I'm available to listen share and
learn.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1-31-2005

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I've been asked to moderate

http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/all-star-martial-arts-academy/

Their description is



Hello and Komsahamida you are welcome here
  for martial arts instruction questions and all forms
  for TKD and weapons. If we are slow getting
  back to you then keep trying. Feel free to
  join no matter what style you are in. We
  are the All Star Martial Arts Academy
established in 2003 with more than 20 years
  experience in the world of Martial arts.
Enjoy and keep in shape.


Keith




Thank you Keith I am honored

Rick


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I have volunteered to take over
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/TechniquesofCombat/

The description is


The purpose of this group is to
discuss Techniques of Combat
as well as other martial art topics.
Please make sure you read my article
in the file section. Our links section
is where you can find great martial art
sites as well as in the database
is where you can leave your information
so others may contact you.
Please feel free to express your opinions !Jiu Jitsu is a life style.
To be great you must learn to breath
it live it. To see the techniques in
your head and how they combine.
No ones Jiu Jitsu is the same and
can never be the same. For every person
is unique in their own ways forcing
them to master certain aspects before
others. Here is where you will learn
what it takes to learn these techniques!
Here is where you may ask questions
and learn from others. Here is where
we we unite as a group !

Thank you for this honor
I will do my best to keep with the
original purpose of the group
Rick







--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Full time martial arts author, family
man, and good friend Keith Pascal
lost most of his subscribers to his
free ezine.

He's also a Clickbank member and
you can make some money off of his
ebooks while helping him out at the
same time

http://MartialArtsEbooksByKerwinBenson.notlong.com



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

12-31-2004
Don't have any yet

#29 From: all-star-martial-arts-academy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed Feb 23, 2005 6:47 am
Subject: New file uploaded to all-star-martial-arts-academy
all-star-martial-arts-academy@yahoogroups.com
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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the all-star-martial-arts-academy
group.

   File        : /MartialArtsArticles/MutipleAttackersMartialArtsMastery233.html
   Uploaded by : Tutor2000 <tutor2000@...>
   Description : Mutliple Attack Defense. Martial Arts Mastery Ezine by Master
Keith Pascal. More ebooks and articles can be found at
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/KirkhamsEbooks2/files and
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/KirkhamsEbooks/files Upload your own
articles at http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Martial_Arts_Ads_And_Discussion

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/all-star-martial-arts-academy/files/MartialArtsArt\
icles/MutipleAttackersMartialArtsMastery233.html

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

Tutor2000 <tutor2000@...>

#28 From: all-star-martial-arts-academy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue Feb 1, 2005 11:53 am
Subject: File - MonthlyAnnouncement.txt
all-star-martial-arts-academy@yahoogroups.com
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***
TOC
***

New News
Reminders and Free Groups
Kwik Self-Defense Tip
Sponsor
Ebooks and Software Links
Store Fronts
Affiliate Programs
Old News



********
NEW NEWS
********


****
Aloha everyone
Only personal news. We bought
the five year old his first real bed.
Hunter had been sleeping in a modified
crib, but now his head and feet almost
touch the ends. So we're having to get
all the stored stuff out of his
new bedroom.

If anyone has done this for their own
children you know how much fun that can
be.

I just joined a healthy coffee affiliate
program. Just got my coffee today and
IT IS GOOD. I'll keep you posted on that.

I'm also doing some pay per clicks for
advertising so if anyone has any
comments or questions about PPCs
I'm available to listen share and
learn.



*****************************
REMINDERS AND FREE GROUPS
*****************************


Just wanted to remind everyone For free ebooks,
free articles and updates on ebooks you have
ordered to check the files section of

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/KirkhamsEbooks/
KirkhamsEbooks-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/KirkhamsEbooks2/
KirkhamsEbooks2-subscribe@yahoogroups.com



If you wish to post martial arts or fitness ads,
  discuss martial arts and fitness

or upload your own articles use the files
section of

http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Martial_Arts_Ads_And_Discussion/
Martial_Arts_Ads_And_Discussion-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

To help promote a printable ebook I wrote
called

Getting to and Through Dates to Meet And
Impress That Special Someone
A Male's Guide to asking that special
someone out and keeping her. But a Good
  guide For Ladies Too by J. Richard
Kirkham B.Sc. Behavioral Modification
and Sales Expert

I started this yahoo group

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Dating_Tips_And_Chat/
Dating_Tips_And_Chat-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
Warning this group has one adult singles banner
so you should be 18 or older to join this
group.


The ebook can be found in the files section of
the group


Finally for general advertising
I started a group where you can
post any ads you want to post



http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/Kirkhams_Email_SafeList
Kirkhams_Email_SafeList-subscribe@yahoogroups.com


http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/KirkhamsEbooks/
KirkhamsEbooks-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/KirkhamsEbooks2/
KirkhamsEbooks2-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Martial_Arts_Ads_And_Discussion/
Martial_Arts_Ads_And_Discussion-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/TechniquesofCombat/
TechniquesofCombat-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/all-star-martial-arts-academy/
all-star-martial-arts-academy-subscribe@yahoogroups.com


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Dating_Tips_And_Chat/
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http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/Kirkhams_Email_SafeList
Kirkhams_Email_SafeList-subscribe@yahoogroups.com





*********************
KWIK SELF-DEFENSE TIP
*********************

Sure go ahead and block,
but make the block a secondary
defense as opposed to a primary defense
Use evasive movements instead to
place yourself in a better defensive
and counter-attack position.
If your evasive movement fails
you'll still have your block


See Bring The Martial Artist Out from
Within for more drills

http://DefendYourSelf.notlong.com





***********************
PLEASE VISIT MY SPONSOR
***********************


A super full time martial arts author
  - Master Keith Pascal

http://MartialArtsEbooksByKerwinBenson.notlong.com



*******************
PLEASE BE A SPONSER
*******************


$19.00 for four ads to everyone this email goes out to


http://KwikTipAdOrder.notlong.com





*************************
EBOOKS AND SOFTWARE LINKS
*************************

http://EbookAndSoftwareMall.50megs.com

Is my main ebook store. Search over 1200
Ebook and Software Titles from all kinds
of authors

http://FreeInternetPromotionKit.notlong.com

http://FreeEbookAffiliateProgram.notlong.com

http://FreeEbookProfitNewsLetter.notlong.com

http://MartialArtsEbookSearch.notlong.com

Workout Timer – One of my most popular downloads.
Try it as long as yo like with no limits
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/KirkhamsEbooks2/files/MartialArtsSoftware/

In case of word wrap

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/KirkhamsEbooks2

/files/MartialArtsSoftware/

************
STORE FRONTS
************

http://VirtualStoreFronts.notlong.com
A collection of links and frames to
several Virtual Store Fronts. A great
Time Saver. Many of these stores have
affiliate programs

http://EbookAndSoftwareMall.50megs.com
Is my main ebook store. Search over 1200
Ebook and Software Titles from all kinds
of authors. Affiliate programs are
available

http://OwnYourOwnMall.notlong.com



******************
AFFILIATE PROGRAMS
******************

http://OwnYourOwnMall.notlong.com

http://MartialArtsMoney.notlong.com





************
NEWS LETTERS
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KirkhamsEbooks2-subscribe@yahoogroups.com



********
OLD NEWS
********

1-31-2005
*********

I've been asked to moderate

http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/all-star-martial-arts-academy/

Their description is



Hello and Komsahamida you are welcome here
  for martial arts instruction questions and all forms
  for TKD and weapons. If we are slow getting
  back to you then keep trying. Feel free to
  join no matter what style you are in. We
  are the All Star Martial Arts Academy
established in 2003 with more than 20 years
  experience in the world of Martial arts.
Enjoy and keep in shape.


Keith




Thank you Keith I am honored

Rick


******

I have volunteered to take over
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/TechniquesofCombat/

The description is


The purpose of this group is to
discuss Techniques of Combat
as well as other martial art topics.
Please make sure you read my article
in the file section. Our links section
is where you can find great martial art
sites as well as in the database
is where you can leave your information
so others may contact you.
Please feel free to express your opinions !

Jiu Jitsu is a life style.
To be great you must learn to breath
it live it. To see the techniques in
your head and how they combine.
No ones Jiu Jitsu is the same and
can never be the same. For every person
is unique in their own ways forcing
them to master certain aspects before
others. Here is where you will learn
what it takes to learn these techniques!
Here is where you may ask questions
and learn from others. Here is where
we we unite as a group !

Thank you for this honor
I will do my best to keep with the
original purpose of the group
Rick







*************************************
Full time martial arts author, family
man, and good friend Keith Pascal
lost most of his subscribers to his
free ezine.

He's also a Clickbank member and
you can make some money off of his
ebooks while helping him out at the
same time

http://MartialArtsEbooksByKerwinBenson.notlong.com



**********
12-31-2004
Don't have any yet

#27 From: all-star-martial-arts-academy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue Feb 1, 2005 8:37 am
Subject: New file uploaded to all-star-martial-arts-academy
all-star-martial-arts-academy@yahoogroups.com
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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the all-star-martial-arts-academy
group.

   File        : /Admin/MonthlyAnnouncement.html
   Uploaded by : Tutor2000 <tutor2000@...>
   Description : You probably got the old sorry due to the time difference sorry

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/all-star-martial-arts-academy/files/Admin/MonthlyA\
nnouncement.html

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

Tutor2000 <tutor2000@...>

#26 From: "keyzoz" <keyzoz@...>
Date: Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:05 am
Subject: Hello all members
keyzoz
Offline Offline
Send Email Send Email
 
It may get a little boaring hanging around here. We know that yet I
hope this club grows. It is up to each person to make this work not
the founders. You made a decision to join and perhaps expected more.

I ask all of you to invite a friend here and lets start a forum
concerning our knowlege and experiences and get a chat going on. Any
one of you can do this. Now I challenge you to be a leader and the
first one who does this will get promoted up to Moderator. If you
want the job it is yours.

Email me if you need some tips or speak to any of the founders.

http://www.keyzoz@yahoo.com

Your friend Keith

#25 From: all-star-martial-arts-academy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat Jan 1, 2005 11:33 am
Subject: File - MonthlyAnnouncement.txt
all-star-martial-arts-academy@yahoogroups.com
Send Email Send Email
 
***
TOC
***

New News
Reminders and Free Groups
Kwik Self-Defense Tip
Sponsor
Ebooks and Software Links
Store Fronts
Affiliate Programs
Old News



********
NEW NEWS
********

I've been asked to moderate

http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/all-star-martial-arts-academy/

Their description is



Hello and Komsahamida you are welcome here
  for martial arts instruction questions and all forms
  for TKD and weapons. If we are slow getting
  back to you then keep trying. Feel free to
  join no matter what style you are in. We
  are the All Star Martial Arts Academy
established in 2003 with more than 20 years
  experience in the world of Martial arts.
Enjoy and keep in shape.


Keith




Thank you Keith I am honored

Rick
****

Full time martial arts author, family
man, and good friend Keith Pascal
lost most of his subscribers to his
free ezine.

He's also a Clickbank member and
you can make some money off of his
ebooks while helping him out at the
same time

http://MartialArtsEbooksByKerwinBenson.notlong.com




*****************************
REMINDERS AND FREE GROUPS
*****************************


Just wanted to remind everyone For free ebooks,
free articles and updates on ebooks you have
ordered to check the files section of

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/KirkhamsEbooks/
KirkhamsEbooks-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/KirkhamsEbooks2/
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        Martial Arts Mastery
A Tell-All of Tips, Tactics, and Techniques

Thank you for reading this 100% opt-in newsletter, only delivered to
those interested in practical martial art. Your email address
is protected --  we won't share your information
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You'll find subscribe information and an unsubscribe link at the
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Contents:

1.  Editor's Message ... Decimated, but Back... Finally

2.  Punching With Weights ... Not a Great Idea, Unless...

3. "Is Steven Seagal's Martial Arts For Me?"

4.  Did She Earn Her Black Belt Too Quickly?

5. Some Boxer Considerations

6. My Opinion of Classical Wing Chun

7.  Housekeeping: Subscribe, unsubscribe, contact us, etc.


1.##################################################
   Editor's Message ... Decimated, but Back... Finally


Well, where were we?

Oh, yes. I had just sent out an issue stating that 'Martial Arts
Mastery'
was back in full force. I hit send, and the SPAM organizations
started
contacting my new web host.

So much so, that the web host shut down my list and told me to go
elsewhere. The web host, whom I do not recommend, panicked. It
seems the parse program we used to remake my 100% opt-in list
picked up some bad email addresses at the bottom of folks' emails.

Now, after a closer look, I think the hand-to-hand combat course,
which has been shut down, picked up some bad addresses too.



   (By the way, if you see my 9-Part, Hand-to-Hand Combat Course
    anywhere on the web, please tell me. People do NOT have my
    permission to lift it from me and publish it. It is copyrighted
material.
    Thanks in advance for the report.)



The next step was to find a new host who could handle my list.
Imagine -- all of this to breathe life back into a freebie martial
arts
newsletter. I don't even get paid for this :-)

I had grown too big.

What was the answer?

I rented my own server, and am hosting myself. Thank you,
very much.

In the process, I decided to completely clean the database list.

I was warned not to switch to a new subscription address, and not
to make my subscribers join again. The discussion fora claim that a
switch like that would kill about 90% of a list.

Hmmm.

I had 8,300 subscribers to MAM before the fiasco.  As of this
morning,
I have 644 subscribers ... and not all of them have confirmed.
That's
a little under 8%.

We have been decimated.

I guess the list isn't too big, now.

And life goes on.


It's time to rebuild....
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-





If you are the owner of a martial arts site, or run a martial arts
forum,
or have contact with lots of martial artists, ... or ... or ...
or ...

want to help rebuild this ezine list, let me know.

mailto:info@...

(info@...)

I have a few ideas on how to reward those who help me rebuild.
Contact me.


An early predictor of help --  my guess is that you will see one of
my ebooklets offered on the Rick Kirkham site in the very near
future. Thanks for the offer Rick. Now, I have to choose an
appropriate ebooklet for his martial-arts web site.

Check out Rick Kirkham's site, to see how to receive one of
my ebooklets:

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Tony C. lives in Manchester England. He's in his 40s and looking
for a martial arts club that focuses on self defense (defence).

If you  know of a place that trains for the practical in Manchester,
let
me know. I will forward the information to Tony.

Thanks in advance.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-





Pradyot noticed that on page 33 of the ebooklet you receive when
you subscribe, that there is some text missing.

Sorry about that. The text program did a little independent
chopping.

The final bit should be...



Sensory Enrichment for Learning
The point of this experiment is to involve as many senses with one
of
your
practices — either the kicks or the punches — or whatever two
techniques
you choose.

If prior research in other fields holds true, you should see more
improvement
in the  sensory-rich practice session.

Try it.


Is this true science or a bunch of poppycock?

You be the judge.

-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-






Just when I was feeling down about losing over 90% of my
subscribers, I received a letter to cheer me up. Thanks Mark. It
arrived just when it did the most good:


"I too have bought most of your books...

  "I'm still reading the  teacher ones...and I started again on Wrist
Locks...
   I haven't even been able to open the other ones.

" I find the information you give is refreshing is a new point of
view
and almost all the stuff you say can be used in every style which
is refreshing also.

"I know my martial arts is not the best because it will expand only
as much as I'm willing to let it expand.  All I can do is practice
and
your information has provided new ways to energize me...and make
me a better teacher to my self.

"I can't wait to start reading Wrist Locks and The Punch Papers
(http://www.PunchPapers.com)  all in good time I guess.

"Keep up the great work.

"And like I said before to not have your books in your back pocket
(in my palm pilot) is to limit your way of learning and
understanding
and applying your martial arts to be a better you.

  "Have a good one."

      -- Mark
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-





This week in 'Martial Arts Mastery,' the focus is on you, the
reader.
Several of you wrote while the ezine was down.

Before we get back to life as normal, I thought we could use this
week to answer some reader questions. It's not normal to fill an
entire
issue responding to subscribers, but I feel this will help to catch
us
up,
and get everyone back on track.

In the words  that follow, we'll talk about Steven Seagal's style,
find
fault with some boxers, compare Bruce Lee to Mohammed Ali (do we
really need to?), discuss the practicality of Wing Chun, and maybe
even talk about achieving mastery in the martial arts.

Next week, I'd like to talk about how I intend to help one of my
students
make the jump to the next level in the martial arts. He's very
practical ... and that's his problem; believe it or not!

I also have a new way for everyone to look at martial improvement.
The paradigm focuses on a drawing by M.C. Escher. No kidding.



It's good to be back. I wish all 644 of you well,


Keith Pascal, editor

PS This fresh start takes me back four years, when we had
        just as few subscribers. It's time to rebuild ... quickly.









2.##################################################
    Punching With Weights ... Not a Great Idea, Unless...

"Keith,
 
"Just read your latest MAM.  I was wondering if I had just missed
your last issue, sorry to hear that you had host problems.  I guess
it goes with the territory."
 
"At the end where you were discussing the boxer's refund, you
mentioned
that you were against punching with weights.  I was hoping for some
more of the "why".
 
"I'll let you know my thoughts.  First, I've read about people in
martial
arts doing it as standard practice, from Karate to Wing Chun.  I
also
remember Inosanto's story of his first lesson with Bruce saying he
had to pyramid a whole set of punching with dumbbells.  So, I did
it for a while.
 
"Then I stopped.  It hit me that the resistance of the weight does
not
match the resistance I'd like to work against in a punch.  Then I
read
about the danger of using weights to your form in many areas
(running,
swimming, etc...) as anything over a very small weight will demand
that
you change your form - which is the last thing I want to do
(assuming I
have good form  : )  Anyway, that's why I stopped.  I've also heard
about damage to the elbows, but that was never an issue....

"I appreciate your time and consideration.

"Thank you,"

    -- Drew Pruhs
        Los Angeles
-=-=-=-=-






Thanks for writing in, Drew.

I thought I had a full article+ on the subject in the Punch Papers
(http://www.punchharder.com), and so I didn't want to get too
redundant.
Now, I can't seem to find the weight reference, even though I found
the article about Bob Bremer ... an original Bruce Lee student....

I had gifted my teacher, Steve Golden (another Bruce Lee and Ed
Parker original) a pair of punching weights. Bob was concerned
that you could do a lot of elbow damage, if you were to punch with
weights. He made some very good points, as does Drew, in the
letter above.

A few years before, I found some one-pound dumb bells for Steve.
He rejected them for punching. The weights at the end wouldn't allow
him tight punching, where one punch pretty much scrapes over the
top of the last one. Even though the ends of the weights extended
less than an inch beyond his fists, that was still way too much.

The weights that I was now gifting, fit snugly in the hand, with no
metal protruding.


[If Bruce Lee had Danny Inosanto punching with dumb bells, you
have to ask yourself ... Maybe Bruce hadn't progressed that far in
his training when he made the recommendation? Could it be that
Dan's punches were so weak at the time, that Bruce decided to
focus on one improvement at a time? Did that extra inch or so
not matter to Bruce? After all, he was able to get away with a
lot that he wouldn't recommend to his students.]




Rather than thinking of weights as always changing one's form for
the worse, I prefer to think of them as 'exaggerators.'

Weights can make you exaggerate your form. If you are a little off
on your punching, they can pull you further off. And that's where
the danger of punching with weights comes in.

On the flip side, you could try weights, if your punch is precise.
If
you punch vertically, so the weight is less 'inclined' (pardon the
pun)
to hyper-extend your elbow than with a horizontal punch, you'll
have better luck.

Now, how to get weights that don't extend out the ends of your
fists.
I had mine made for me.

And don't even think about punching with wrist weights like the
idiot
boxer in our last issue. Enough said.



I like the way Drew considered several possibilities. He
experimented.
Stopped what wasn't working. Kept exploring.

These are signs of a martial artist who will improve throughout his
study of the arts.







3.#################################################
    "Is Steven Seagal's Martial Arts For Me?"

Debashish wrote asking for advice. He was the 24 yr. old musician
who encountered a jerk while he was sitting on the steps of a
temple. We covered his situation in an article, a few months ago.

Debashish is looking to study martial arts more formally. He's 5'6"
and weighs about 60 Kgs. So, he isn't a large fellow. He's looking
for a good martial art for his body size and needs.

He is shying away from what his friend studies ... Karate.
Debashish's
reasoning is that he wants something that focuses on the "hit first
philosophy." He sees too much 'blocking first' in his friend's style.


Here's a piece of his letter:


"Recently I watched the movie of "Steven Seagal" named "Fire
Down Below." I was impressed by the way he fought.

"Here I would like to mention that I am fan of Bruce Lee. Still,
Steven Seagal's cool-minded attitute and personality impressed
me.

"He uses wrist locks and "getting out of the way" techniques in
his fights.

"What I would like to ask you is:

   "1) Are those kinds of fights (and moves) really practical in real
        life or it is only for movies?

   "2) What kind of self defence is practical for me. Considering my
        height and bodyweight?

"To be honest, with my current body structure, no one considers
me as a threat. Does physical size matters the most in a real
life situation?

"I mean, I feel it does.

  And some of my friends and relatives also sometimes say to me
that - I am not big and strong enough to fight with "someone
bigger than I."





Debashish was impressed with Steven Seagal's fighting in the
movies and wants to know if the techniques are only movie-born,
or if they would work in real life. And Debashish also wants
suggestions on what style of martial arts to study.

Let's deal with Seagal's fighting first....

In the earlier days of this ezine, I had an article that dealt with
ways
to counter a clothesline strike (where a straight arm strikes across
your, chest, throat, or face). For fun, I claimed that it was a way
to
beat Steven Seagal, because he used the clothesline move
in so many of his earlier movies.

Boy, were the readers mad. They unsubscribed by droves. I never
knew there were so many die-hard Seagal fans (no, not the movie
"Die Hard;" that's Bruce Willis). It didn't matter that I liked
watching
Seagal movies too. In my mind, I was just criticizing his over use
of one technique.

Do you think he dropped the move, because of
my lil' ol' ezine? Nawww ;-)

Anyway, I am happy to say, a lot of what you see in the Steven
Seagal movies is based on real martial technique. Many of his
combat Aikido techniques seem fairly accurate to my "untrained"
eye.

Those techniques are great fun to watch, but ...

[fingers poised on the unbsubscribe buttons everyone ... yes,
I am back ....]

Seagal's moves aren't necessarily the most efficient out there.

It's my job to see holes in all styles ... including my own. I spend
a fair amount of time trying to correct my own imperfections in
the art, as I learn from my mistakes and those of others.

So, I look for inefficiencies.

And I see a ton of them in the Seagal movies. "But it's just a
movie."
I
take it for what it is -- fun entertainment, based on a little
reality.
Fun.
Exciting to watch.

Not necessarily direct.

For example, the next time you watch the movie, or any Seagal movie,
I want you to look for a particular type of sequence. Look for an
attack on Seagal -- someone punches at Steven's head.
Any movie will do.

What's the Seagal Response?

Usually, he pats and passes the arm striking at him. And it takes
Steven about three moves, before he causes any damage.

Not direct enough for my tastes.

So, yes, the Seagal stuff is based on reality, but some of the
techniques could use modification.

First question answered.


Debashish's second question is a bit more difficult.

I have no idea what kind of martial training is available to
him in his area.

Can someone of his build defend himself (or herself) against a
big brute?

To that, I answer ... of course!

That's why we all train.

A few examples:

Bruce Lee had about Debashish's build and was about his size.

My teacher, who is in his 60s is roughly the same -- maybe a bit
smaller even.

And my wife, Kate, is only 5'2"


All three either have or had the ability to kick the snot out of
big,
beefy opponents.

So, don't worry about size. It's  a question of who uses what they
have the best. You will win (survive) if you know how to deal with
the meanie better than the meanie knows how to deal with you.

As far as threatening looking -- why would you want to? Let
your raw skill be a surprise. I don't want to look threatening --
I am a nice guy.




What kind of martial art I would suggest depends on what's
available.

In general, a small person shouldn't rely on grappling styles.
Or styles that require a long reach with either leg or arm.

Wing Chun was invented for a small person ... we'll talk more
about Wing Chun Gung Fu in this issue.

JKD (Jeet Kune Do) if taught properly, will tailor the art to the
individual. MY standard example is that though Kate and  I
know the same techniques, we react in a completely different
manner, because I am a big guy, and she is a petite gal. It
makes sense.

Some of the Filipino arts rely on the attacker breaking into your
body
bubble. Size becomes less of a consideration when you attack
  the limb first.

These are just a couple of quick suggestions. You should see
what's available in your area. Study some place where you
feel comfortable. Where you like the people.

I'll try to post a couple of articles on choosing a school --
traditional
schools and unorthodox schools too.

It may be in the Secret Article page in early January.


Thanks to Debashish for making us consider fitting the style to the
person. More on choosing a school in the secret article page.
Soon.










4.##################################################
    Did She Earn Her Black Belt Too Quickly?



"Dear Keith,

"I am a subsriber to your e-magazine and really like it.

"I have shared some of your ideas in my martial arts class ( I train
in
Goju Ryu Karate and Jui jitsu - im 7th kyu) and with my sensei.

"I have a question I am not sure if you ever went over in your
ezine -
someone I know has been training in Taikwondo for 2 years (2-3 times
a week) and she just got her black belt, - what is your feeling on
such
a fast move from white to black?

"In my dojo, it can take 5-6 years at least to get black. When I
mentioned
it to some guys in my class, they laughed and told me they thought
it
was a joke that she got it so fast, whats your thought?

"And how does a legitimate style get away with that?"

   -- Allan






Now, it's time to get a little, let's call it, "creative" in my
response.
No direct answers from me here. Just a lot to think about. Are you
ready for the roller coaster ride?

Let's take a look at the puzzle...


It took me 5 years to earn my teacher's certification from Steve
Golden. That was just the right amount of time -- for me. I was
'ready.' It was time.

A friend of mine earned his from Steve in about a year and a half.
He earned it so quickly, because he already had black belt(s) in
other styles.

He earned his certification in under two years ... and in hindsight,
it
was a little too early. It didn't stick the way it should have.
Since
then, he continued to progress, and is now much better than I am.
But at the time of certification, he really hadn't matured into his
certification.

Maybe the promotion helped him to grow into his certification.

Maybe he and I were at the same levels when i had completed
five years and he had completed one and a half. Maybe our teacher
doesn't compare students.

That's the first piece of the puzzle. Let's keep going....
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=




In some schools, time is irrelevant in how long it takes. It takes
as
long as it takes.

And some schools don't even use the same criteria when judging
students...

    Student A will get the third promotion when she overcomes her
                       telegraphing while kicking.

    Student B will earn her third promotion when she can flow against
                       someone else single stick against single stick.


These two students will probably be at completely different levels
when each earns black belt.


One more piece of the puzzle...
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-






In my school, this may sound weird, but I have a certain amount of
pride in what I teach.

Fair or not, I wouldn't award a black belt to someone who couldn't
stand
up easily to other black belts from other schools in our community.

My students don't have to be the absolute best ... I am not
maniacally
driven by power. And they never have to show off.

But people who represent me and themselves need to be able to
hold their own. Earn respect for their martial skill.

They should never be afraid to "play" with another martial artist.
Always willing to touch hands, shut the eyes, and do a little chi
sao
hitting.



Each person may have his or her own puzzle pieces...
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-




Whether you are working out in my garage, or Steve Golden's, or in
one of his students', we all have something in common ... besides a
warped sense of humor.

You can't tell the ranks of the people working out. No martial arts
belts
worn. No sashes or other indicators.

If you are a black belt, 'you' know it. Your friends probably do
too.
But
that's about it. It isn't usually discussed. We treat each other as
equals,
but guess what....

You can tell.

From the first touch with someone, you can definitely tell the
difference
between a beginner, an intermediate, and an advanced practitioner.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-





End note:

The easiest way to tell if she is deserving is by observing.

                -- Keith Pascal  (2004)




Puzzle Completed!






End note: And if it were just a matter of time, then "I" win. The
woman
may have studied for two years. Allan's school may award after four.

But I have never awarded a black belt in under 8 years! Really.

So, is my school the best, because it takes the longest to earn
one's black belt?

Probably not.












5.##################################################
  Some Boxer Considerations


We heard from Debashish and Allan. It's interesting that both had
comments about my boxing article at the end of their letters. Here
are some snippets of what they wrote, with my responses
added afterwards:



"My friend, observing my craze for Bruce Lee, made a comment.

"He said, if Mohammed Ali (the legendary boxer) and Bruce Lee
had had a real fight, Ali's one punch would have knock Lee out.
However, it would take several successful blows by Lee to affect
Ali a little.

"Therefore according to my friend, considering Bruce Lee unbeatable
was a lie. Is it true?

"So I guess all my questions are based on one single thought - "Size
   does matter."  Please give a practical, real life answer."

       -- Debashish






The hypothetical "who would have beaten whom" debate appears
from time to time. Most of the senior martial artists are quick to
tell
the novice how dumb the question is.

I on the other hand, think it's a fine question. There is absolutely
nothing wrong with wondering at both ability of the individual and
effectiveness of the chosen martial method.

Let's honor Debashish's request and discuss Ali vs. Lee, OK?

Ali was great fun to watch -- a very skilled fighter. One of the
best.
He
was in great shape and could take a ton of punishment, as can
most boxers.

He earns points for all  of the above.

And he did have a devastating punch.

Let's award him points for his punch, and a few extra for being
  light on his feet.

Oh, and one more point for his doggerel poems that entertained us.

With all of that, I would still bet my car, my house, and my
daughter ... well, OK, not Quinn, on Bruce Lee winning
"a real fight."

First of all, let's dispel the myth about Bruce Lee being able to
beat
everyone. I don't think anyone is ever going to be able to beat
everyone.

By studying, you significantly reduce the number who can best
you in battle. There were very few, and none that I know of,
who could match Bruce Lee at his best. But unbeatable ???

Now, let's move on to the statement about Bruce Lee's weaker
punches. Funny, I have never heard them referred to as weak.

Examine some videos of Bruce Lee's one-inch punch.

"My" one-inch punch can send men flying backwards. And my
punch is just a fraction of my teacher's one-inch punch. And he
claims that his punch was just a fraction of his teacher's,
Bruce Lee.

I am not sure I'd want to be behind even one of Bruce Lee's
one-inch punches, let alone a "regular" distanced punch.

Now, why would I put my money on Bruce Lee?

Easy.

Mohammed Ali studied boxers. He knew what boxers could do.

Bruce Lee studied all martial arts, including boxing.

He knew what Ali was capable of, but Ali didn't have a clue as
to how Bruce Lee would react.

Notice I said "a real fight"?  Not a boxing match.

In a real fight, would Ali have known how to deal with someone
blasting out his knee with low, strong stop kicks?

Would Ali be able to avoid kicks and punches to the groin?

Would he know how to handle sweeps, locks, gouges, bites, and
pressure points?

What would he have done against a trap?

How would Ali handle ... someone unwilling to play
Ali's game?

Ali was great fun to watch. He was an incredible boxer. He is a
living
legend. But let's be realistic -- Bruce Lee against Mohammed Ali??
Oh dear.

-=-=-=-=-=-





I also said that Allan had a few boxing comments in his letter...



"Oh and about your comments on the boxer- my sensei had taken
boxing for a bit and they told him that taking karate was a waste
and
just stick to boxing- (like this guy saeemed to think).

"So, while we use some boxing techniques in our class - our sensei
told us the thing many boxers forget is since they are so trained to
stick above the belt.

"They don't use kicks, or expect them to come, so they only use half
the wepons we use."

    -- Allan




Allan and I were thinking along the same lines. Maybe Debashish's
friend will accept our explanations. Who knows?

Did you learn anything from this discussion?










6.##################################################
     My Opinion of Classical Wing Chun


"Hi Keith,
 
"Love reading your e-zine.

" I have a question that you maybe might have answered in the past,
so I'm sorry if it's redundant. I started practicing Wing Chun not
too
long ago, Augustine Fong lineage, and was wondering what you think
if it as a stand-alone art.

"I am crazy about it and think that it is one of the most efficient
martial
arts out there when mastered. I know what you do is somewhat a
modified Wing Chun, or JKD, or whatever you call it, but as a pure
form Wing Chun, do you see any weaknesses in the methodology
of training? The techniques?

"The Chi-Sao?

"The Chi-Gerk?

"The woodem dummy?

"The forms? etc.

"I'd like to have your opinion on this. A post about this on
rec.martial-arts
got me into some trouble a while ago :)
 
'Thanks for everything and keep up the good work."
 
              -- Alex
                 Montreal, Canada.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-



I am not prepared to comment on a particular lineage of Wing Chun.
Always one to be honest -- I don't pay attention to the politics of
Wing Chun Gung Fu.

As far as problems in the style or with the mode of training -- I
have
the ability to find fault with any style, even my own. No style
  is perfect.

Remember, I thought for the longest time that I was doing pure
Wing Chun along with my JKD. Only later did I find out that even
the Wing Chun had been tweaked through a Bruce Lee-type of
filter. The Wing Chun was more direct than what I was seeing
out in the real world.

That was my criticism of the art. Now, the other side of the
equation:

I love so many aspects of Wing Chun.

I think someone who doesn't know how to fight with contact,
without the use of one's eyes is a very limited fighter. Knowing
how an opponent is moving without having to look is ... well...
advantageous.

I only know the basics of Chi Gerk, but the foot positions do
seem to check the other person's leg very well. My groin is
safe, if my foot and stance positioning is precise.

For the Mook Jong, you'd have to ask my wife. She plays a
more traditional game on it. She practices pieces of the
Wooden Dummy form.

My preference is to use it for one sequence, not necessarily
from the form, over and over. I use it to develop energy (force)
in the proper direction, while effecting proper positions.




Now, here's the corker ...

I can be critical of almost any style, including JKD AND Wing
Chun. I can also glean a lot of useful training from many
different styles.

If I moved to a city, and I felt I needed to train at a school, I
might
be inclined to seek out a Wing Chun school.

Take my city, for example.

There are several Tae Kwon Do schools. Two stand out ... more
popular than the rest. One is decent; the other sucks.

We also have a particular black belt academy.  A bunch of immature
turkeys who don't have a clue about ... well, about anything.

Salt and pepper some schools in Kenpo, Kung Fu, Karate,
Aikido, and Tang Soo Do, and through the mess, the
Wing Chun master in our town looks pretty appealing.

(Actually, the Wing Chun teacher in our area is verrrrry
skilled. I'd go straight to him, anyway, with a little extra
training from Bob Suttles at his school.)

What about the JKD offered through our athletic club?

As I said, the Wing Chun is looking very appealing.

We can continue the Wing Chun discussion, if there is interest. I'd
rather get back to the practical aspects ... let's use it, or pick
it
apart.
Make it into something we can us in a fight.

And with that, I have no clue if I answered Alex's question.








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#18 From: "Sensei J. Richard Kirkham B.Sc" <tutor2000@...>
Date: Thu Dec 9, 2004 5:48 pm
Subject: Re: Tutor you are doing a great job Thank you.
Tutor2000
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--- keyzoz <keyzoz@...> wrote:

>
>
> Hello everyone Happy holidays. Hey tutor if you have
> time try to
> invite new members to the club. I see you have been
> working very hard
> here. Keep up the good work. I know I made a good
> choice to make you a
> Moderator.

I'm a moderator?

But I've never studied TKD in my life. I'm honored but
wouldn't someone with a TKD background do a better
job?

Rick

=====
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/files/MartialArtsFilmClips/FightClips.html

Workout Timer Plays Music or Tada Try it Out It's NEW
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#17 From: "keyzoz" <keyzoz@...>
Date: Thu Dec 9, 2004 4:55 pm
Subject: Tutor you are doing a great job Thank you.
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Hello everyone Happy holidays. Hey tutor if you have time try to
invite new members to the club. I see you have been working very hard
here. Keep up the good work. I know I made a good choice to make you a
Moderator.

Hey club support is low lets have some fun with this thing and become
a service to all martial artists world wide.


Keith Robbins certified black belt New Jersey USA

#16 From: "Sensei J. Richard Kirkham B.Sc."<tutor2000@...>
Date: Sat Nov 27, 2004 10:47 pm
Subject: Here's some real fight video clips
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Aloha gang;

I'm sending this link to real fight clips to all the groups I belong to. There's
a bunch of them on this one link.


I received the link to these fight clips from
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freestylefightingfiles/ (I always try to give
credit)


Make sure you have your sound on at least for the Gracie vs Kung-fu master.
There is some foul language in the other clips

This should be a wake up call for those of you who only train standing up and
were told by your instructors

"Just stay off the ground!"

You martial artists who want to assume a fighting stance, block the one punch
the guy throws, then counter-attack with your single devastating reverse punch,
will hopefully get a wake up call.


Out of respect for the moderators, I am giving you the link from my own group in
case the moderator doesn't want to show graphic violence such as this AND to be
even more honest it might get a few more people in my group.

Rick
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Martial_Arts_Ads_And_Discussion

/files/MartialArtsFilmClips/FightClips.html

Martial_Arts_Ads_And_Discussion-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

#15 From: "Sensei J. Richard Kirkham B.Sc." <tutor2000@...>
Date: Sat Oct 2, 2004 5:03 am
Subject: Sorry group here's the right one Here's a martial arts article on teaching children
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Aloha everyone;

I promised some articles on teaching children to someone in one of the groups I
belong to and I cannot remember which group. So I may as well share with you all
anyway to promote more discussion.

Here's one of them

Martial Arts Ezine Issue 52 Teaching Techniques for Teaching Children Martial
Arts

http://kirkhamsebooks.8m.com/TeachingChildrenMartialArts.html

Enjoy and tell me what you think
Rick

#14 From: "Sensei J. Richard Kirkham B.Sc." <tutor2000@...>
Date: Sat Oct 2, 2004 4:58 am
Subject: Here's a martial arts article on teaching children
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Aloha everyone;

In one of the forums I belong to, the subject of sparring drills came up, so I
thought I'd share with all the martial arts groups I belong to an article I
wrote quite a while back but recently edited

Modern Teaching Methods of an Ancient Art, A Humble Courtesy to All Martial Arts
Instructors Your Martial Arts Ezine Issue 21


http://kirkhamsebooks.8m.com/TeachingAncientArt.html

I hope this promotes even more discussion.

I think my hair was mostly brown when I wrote this lol.

Rick

#13 From: "Sensei J. Richard Kirkham B.Sc." <tutor2000@...>
Date: Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:35 am
Subject: Here's a martial arts article I wrote
Tutor2000
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Aloha everyone;

In one of the forums I belong to, the subject of sparring drills came up, so I
thought I'd share with all the martial arts groups I belong to an article I
wrote quite a while back but recently edited

Modern Teaching Methods of an Ancient Art, A Humble Courtesy to All Martial Arts
Instructors Your Martial Arts Ezine Issue 21


http://kirkhamsebooks.8m.com/TeachingAncientArt.html

I hope this promotes even more discussion.

I think my hair was mostly brown when I wrote this lol.

Rick

#12 From: "Sensei J. Richard Kirkham B.Sc." <tutor2000@...>
Date: Sat Sep 4, 2004 8:14 am
Subject: Aloha Everyone
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Aloha everyone

My name is Sensei (technically Master but I stay out of politics) J. Richard
Kirkham B.Sc. Rick to my friends please.

I've been in martial arts now a little over 30 years (ouch!). I have a degree in
physical education with a background in Movement Education, Exercise Phys,
Kinese, Movement Education, Alternative Teaching Methods, Behavior Modification
with an emphasis on Positive Reinforcement Methodology (see Raising Your Child
to be More Positive and More Confident).

I spent four years or so self-employed full time as an in home tutor
specializing in students with behavioral problems primarily ADD and ADHD and an
in home self-defense instructor.

I've been trained in sales and have been in a sales related health field over 15
years now.

I'm an ebook author and have several popular ebooks on the market. I have three
martial arts ezines, Kwik Tips, The Martial Arts Ezine, and the Combat Martial
Arts Ezine. I'd be happy to share Kwik Tips with you. It's short, to the point
and could get some discussions going.

I'm 45, married, with an almost five year old who had quite an adventure his
first day of kindergarten


WARNING TO PARENTS http://starbulletin.com/2004/08/12/news/story3.html


I train quite a bit on my own now (see Solo Martial Arts Drills) with   weekly
to twice a week training partners. I train primarily for realism, situations,
and fitness (wouldn't know it by looking at me).

Guess that's about it

Mahalo
Rick
http://kirkhamsebooks.8m.com/MartialArtsPortal.html

http://InternalEnergyStrikesEbook.8m.com

http://MartialArtsDrillsEbook.8m.com

http://SoloMartialArtsDrillsEbook.8m.com A few pics of me here.

#11 From: "keyzoz" <keyzoz@...>
Date: Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:58 pm
Subject: Welcome all new members!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Feel free to invite your friends to the All Star Martial arts club. I
have been very busy traing and my home pc is down.


We will need a moderator for this club other than me so let me know if
you want to run this ok.


My email is keyzoz@...


owner of the club Keith black belt insructor TKD Hapkido and weapons
Chin na and street self defence.


have fun and good training. I will be back soon


your friend Keith

#10 From: "shoopdogy_d" <kb2sxw@...>
Date: Thu Apr 8, 2004 5:26 pm
Subject: Nice to see some new members
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Hello hope your skills are improving. I welcome you to post messages
and speak your mind here. Enjoy your day



Alex

#9 From: "keyzoz" <keyzoz@...>
Date: Thu Apr 8, 2004 5:09 pm
Subject: Thank you for your interest in this club
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I hope you enjoy this club. Feel free to email us at anytime we
welcome any and all questions and suggestions to promote this club.

Tell your friends and family and Komsahamida.


Keith     kb2sxw@...

#8 From: "keyzoz" <keyzoz@...>
Date: Thu Apr 8, 2004 5:10 pm
Subject: Thank you for your interest in this club
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I hope you enjoy this club. Feel free to email us at anytime we
welcome any and all questions and suggestions to promote this club.

Tell your friends and family and Komsahamida.


Keith     kb2sxw@...

#5 From: "keyzoz" <keyzoz@...>
Date: Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:35 am
Subject: All styles of Martial Arts Welcome here
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Hey let us know what you think. We welcome all practitioners in all
systems so join today and give us your questions and leave answeres
for your fellow Martial Artists and club members.Thank you Keith

#4 From: "keyzoz" <keyzoz@...>
Date: Tue Feb 3, 2004 5:17 am
Subject: How is the perfect flying side kick excecuted?
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Care to answer let us know what you think.

#3 From: "shoopdogy_d" <kb2sxw@...>
Date: Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:45 am
Subject: I love Martial arts
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Can someone tell me how to perfect the round house kick? My knees
hurt so bad from kicking any advice?

#2 From: "keyzoz" <keyzoz@...>
Date: Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:32 am
Subject: Hello to all visitors
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I hope you are excited about TKD. If you have any questions or would
like to advertise your group feel free to join today. We need members
as yahoo notified me they have rules set to cancel inactive groups.
Hey why not give us a try.

Keith

#1 From: "keyzoz" <keyzoz@...>
Date: Sun Oct 19, 2003 2:19 am
Subject: Let us welcome you properly
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If you are ready to study and have some fun this is the place to do
just that. Most folks think Karate or Kung Fu is about violence. It
is not true at all. We are here to promote the truth and to give the
positive side of the Martial Arts and to discuss issues that effect
us all. Fighting for the right reasons is just as bad as fighting for
the wrong reasons. No one can win a fight. Attitude is important and
a good attitude always wins.

our student creed


to build true confidence through knowlege in the mind honesty in the
heart and strength in the body.

to keep friendship with on another and to build a strong and happy
community.

Never fight to achieve selfish ends but to develope might for right.


Hope you join us and ask questions or get on board our federation.


Thank you


Keith

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