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RE: [adk-luge] Great Season

Whoops – math errors! 60MPH = .088 feet per 1/1000 second. That’s 1.056 inches. 80 MPH = .117 feet per 1/1000 sec. or 1.408 inches. 5MPH = .007 feet or 9/100 inch in 1/1000 sec. At any speed a luge sled doesn’t go very far in 1/1000 of a second!

 


From: adk-luge@yahoogroups.com [mailto:adk-luge@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Doorack
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 9:14 PM
To: adk-luge@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [adk-luge] Great Season

 

Hi Aaron. I got the .3 to .4 second eye blink time from a post by an optometry student here:

 

http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/1998-11/911697403.Me.r.html

 

From men’s start you’ll be going a lot faster at the finish than you would from a lower start. For example let’s say that a sled going from women’s start on a certain track does 60MPH at the finish while one from men’s start crosses the finish at 80 MPH. The “slower” slider is covering 5.28 feet in 1/1000 of a second; the faster slider covers 7.04 feet in the same time. Of course we have no idea where on the track Wendell gave up 6/1000 to Huber over 4 runs. If it was at the start the difference between them would have been quite small. A sled going 5MPH travels about 5 ¼ inches in 1/1000 of a second.

 

Steve Martel joked that my 1/1000 “winning margin” was explained by the fact that my foot is a full size bigger than his so I had an unfair advantage in breaking the finish beam sooner.  

 


From: adk-luge@yahoogroups.com [mailto:adk-luge@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Barge
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:28 AM
To: adk-luge@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [adk-luge] Great Season

 

I blink of an eye takes .012 seconds. and that's is off How Stuff Works/luge. and if you were going from a higher start would the distance at the finish be shorter or farther apart?

 

Aaron Barge   

Rob Doorack <robdoorack@comcast.net> wrote:

As far as I know the closet Olympic luge finish was ’94 in Lillehammer, Norway. Arnold Huber  of Italy beat American Wendell Suckow for 4th place by .006 seconds over 4 runs. The total distance traveled was over 3 1/3 miles. By comparison, a single human eye blink takes .3 to .4 seconds! Gordy, do you of any closer results?

In a Masters race at an Empire State Games around ’90 or ’91 I beat Steve Martel for 9th place (I think, or maybe it was 10th) by .001 over 2 runs. Steve was a good friend of mine and we both agreed that no matter what the clock showed we had tied.    


From: adk-luge@yahoogroups.com [mailto:adk-luge@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of luge_fan
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 12:42 PM
To: adk-luge@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [adk-luge] Great Season

Last night's club race was a blast! What a great way to wind down the
2008 season. I'd like to offer up a big thank you to all the club
members and supporters. You guys are the best. Special thanks go to
the club officers, USA Luge coaches and staff and track workers with a
singular thanks to Jim Murphy for all he does for us.

I find it such a rush knowing we individually have exclusive access to
a $27 million dollar facility at the precise moment the words "Finish
is now clear to start four..." come over the PA and echo off the
mountains. For the next forty-something seconds, it is just you and
the mountain. Okay, in my case considerably longer, but hey, it's all
about the slide right? I mean it's not like we are that competitive a
bunch or anything.

So, getting back to last night's discussion on how close the finishes
were in terms of distance, check out the math:

Assume 82km/hr (presumed peak speed). This equates to roughly
22.8m/sec (given a thousand meters in a km and 3600 seconds in an
hour). Next,converting meters to centimeters -and- seconds to
centiseconds results in a wash (100/100) so the sled travels 22.8
centimeters in a centisecond or roughly 9 inches per hundredth of a
second. If my math is right and I *really* hope it is, a six
thousandths of a second (milliseconds) difference amounts to 13.67cm
or 5.38 inches. How amazing is that? Our team sliders rock!

Anyway, thanks all. I've already begun my visualization techniques to
make the chicane appear just a couple centimeters wider in
anticipation of another great season.

--Jim D.

 

 


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As far as I know the closet Olympic luge finish was '94 in Lillehammer, Norway. Arnold Huber of Italy beat American Wendell Suckow for 4th place by .006...
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I blink of an eye takes .012 seconds. and that's is off How Stuff Works/luge. and if you were going from a higher start would the distance at the finish be...
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Hi Aaron. I got the .3 to .4 second eye blink time from a post by an optometry student here: http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/1998-11/911697403.Me.r.html ...
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Whoops – math errors! 60MPH = .088 feet per 1/1000 second. That’s 1.056 inches. 80 MPH = .117 feet per 1/1000 sec. or 1.408 inches. 5MPH = .007 feet or...
Rob Doorack
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Jim: I reviewed your "how far is 6 thousands of seconds in inches" equation. Your math appears to be spot on, however you have an error in the beginning facts...
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Jim D: Only because this is interesting math and a good riddle, I think I need to challenge your formula again. However, you are getting much closer. You have...
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