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PULLING OUR LEGS!!
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P.S.  I know it's not true. At least not yet.  I checked.

-- In YouCanPutItOnTheBoard@yahoogroups.com, writerly@... wrote:
>
> Buyout on Uribe!  Buyout on Uribe!
>
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>
> -------------- Original message from Joan <joan710@...>: ----------
----
>
>
> > Sox decline options on Erstad, Myers
> > By Mark Gonzales, 9:39 a.m.
> >
> > The White Sox declined the 2008 options on first
> > baseman-outfielder Darin Erstad and left-handed
> > reliever Mike Myers, making both players free agents.
> >
> > Erstad, whose 2007 season was plagued by injuries,
> > will be given a $250,000 buyout. He had hoped that the
> > Sox would pick up a $3.5 million for 2008, but he
> > batted only .248 in 87 games and saw his playing time
> > diminish in the second half.
> >
> > Myers, 38, was signed as a free agent in
> > mid-September. There was no buyout in Myers' contract.
> > He had an 11.20 ERA in 17 appearances with the Sox
> > after being released by the New York Yankees.
> >
> > The Sox now have 37 players on their 40-man roster.
> > They have until Nov. 7 to decide whether to pick up
> > the $5 million option on shortstop Juan Uribe or give
> > him a $300,000 buyout.
> >
> >
> >
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--- In YouCanPutItOnTheBoard@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Phillips"
<markp8867@...> wrote:
>
> I don't like that trade.  First of all, the Angels would never
trade all
> those guys as they would go the free agent route to fill up any
holes they
> might have.  I think the White Sox should do the same and keep
what we
> have.  It's silly to trade players when you can just sign a free
agent
> without giving up much of anything.  Now if it's the middle of the
season
> before the trade deadline and you have soon to be free agent
players left on
> your team then that is a different story.
>

**First of all the Angels would, IMO, trade several of their backups
for a top of the line slugger like PKon.  Secondly, I don't know if
you've noticed, but teams can't just sign a free agent.  It's up to
the FA to decide where he signs.  All the teams can do is make an
offer.  Thirdly, again I don't know if you've noticed but it is a
very, VERY weak free agent class this off season.  Other than ARod
their isn't one top of the line slugger out there and there isn't
one, not one truly top notch starting pithcer out there.  ARod would
fill the Angels bill for a 3rd baseman and protection for Vlad but
why sign him for gazillions when you could trade back ups for a much
more reasonably priced PKon, who the Angels tried to sign just 2
years ago to back up Vlad in their order?  We have to take advantage
of the weak FA class and fill our needs by trade using what we have
that will help other teams.  And I don't ever want our team to be
the kind of team that just tries to buy championships the way the
cnlbc did last off season.  That is not good for the game and I
loath teams that do it to excess.  I have nothing against signing
the occasional FA to fill a need but to just say "it's silly to
trade a player when you can just sign a free agent"- ridiculous.
The deal I proposed fills 3 needs.  To fill those 3 needs even in a
good FA season would cost tons of money.  Hopefully my team will
never do that kind of thing.
GM Bill


>
>
> On 10/30/07, william anderson <andersoxy@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > C'mon Bill Enquiring minds want to know.
> >
> >
> >
> > **OK, here it is- as long as your all going to keep pestering me
> > unendingly.
> > .
> > 1. Forget about signing a new CF- Rowand, Hunter or anyone else.
> > .
> > 2. Forget about signing any superstar positon players- ARod or
> > anyone else.
> > .
> > 3. Here's what I'm going to do if (when) I'm named GM (in a
perfect
> > trade world).
> > .
> > 4. We trade Konerko to the Angels for: OF Reggie Willits, INF
> > Maicer Izturis, RHRP either Scott Schields or Justin Spier and a
> > good solid pitching prospect. I know it seems we should get a
> > proven star back for PKon but I think our club needs more role
type
> > players than stars. Then.....
> > .
> > 5. Willits plays LF and leads off. Last season, in semi-regular
> > duty for LA he hit .293 with a .391!!! OB% and 27 steals in 35
> > attempts. Jerry Owens bats second and plays CF. Josh Fields
> > replaces PKon at 1st and bats 3rd. With 2 jack rabbit/base
stealers
> > in front of him and proven hitters like Thome and Dye behind him
> > Fields should get a lot of fastballs to hit. Crede, assuming he's
> > healthy, plays 3rd and hits 6th with AJ 7th. Izturis (.289, .349
> > OB%, 7 of 8 SB) plays SS and hits 8th and Richar 9th. That's 4
fast
> > guys in a row in the lineup in front of Thome & Dye. We'll have
> > somewhat less power but much more speed and a greater ability to
hit
> > and run and manufacture runs as Ozzy says he wants. Schields or
> > Spier become our RH 8th inning guy, replacing McDougal, who drops
> > into the 7h inning spot.
> > .
> > The trade makes sense for both teams IMO as LA gets the hitter
they
> > need to bat behind Vlad. The players we get are all semi regulars
> > for LA and they have replacements for them already. They would be
> > regulars for us. The trade is a bit risky I suppose but we're
going
> > to have to take a chance to fill our holes and this deal fills 3
at
> > once.
> > .
> > 6. Then we trade Garland even up to Colorado for LHRP Brian
Fuentes
> > (3-5, 3.08, 1.13 WHIP, 56 K's in 61 IP). Fuentes had been
Colorados
> > closer for several seasons but, for some reason, they switched
him
> > to set up in mid season and made Manny Corpas their closer.
> > Obviously Colorado could use some more starters and they have a
> > fairly deep bullpen and we need another set up guy. Fuentes joins
> > either Schields or Spier (from the Angels) as our LH 8th inning
guy
> > and Thornton drops to the 7th inning left hander.
> > .
> > Another set up guy we should think seriously about signing is
St.L
> > right hander Russ Springer, who may file for FA soon. He was
> > brillaint last season (8-1, 2.18, 0.91 WHIP, only 41 hits and 19
BBs
> > with 66 Ks in 66 IP) last season.
> > .
> > We're going to have to find another starter to replace JGar.
> > Vazquez and Buehrle are solid but the 3, 4 and 5 spots would the
be
> > up in the air (Contreras and 2 kids). Maybe we could sign Curt
> > Schilling.
> > .
> > OK, there you have it.
> > .
> > GM Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: bill<mailto:andersoxy@>
> > > To:
> > SouthsideHitmen@yahoogroups.com <SouthsideHitmen%
40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:SouthsideHitmen@... <SouthsideHitmen%40yahoogroups.co>
> > m>
> > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 7:54 PM
> > > Subject: [SouthsideHitmen] Re: Question
> > >
> > >
> > > **I'd have to say NO! to Jones. Hunter I could live with but I
> > > think Jones is a very old 30 or 31. And he still has those
> > > arthritic knees. And a .222 avg. last season. Actually I'm
> > > starting to rethink the notion of signing any CF for next
> > season. I
> > > think the club would be better served going in another
> > direction.
> > > And that direction is........I'll let ya' know someday.
> > > GM Bill
> > >
> > > --- In SouthsideHitmen@yahoogroups.com<SouthsideHitmen%
40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:SouthsideHitmen% <SouthsideHitmen%25>
> > 40yahoogroups.com>, "Michael Barnard"
> > > <M_Barnard1@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure about Durham. I think Honel might be a bust. I
> > think
> > > he was hurt and dropped back down to single A from double A .
> > I'm
> > > not ready to give up on Anderson yet. As for Jones or
> > Hunter...if we
> > > could get either...I'd definitely take them ( but Hunter more
so
> > > than Jones.) -Mike B
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Joseph<mailto:soxfan42000@>
> > > > To:
> > > SouthsideHitmen@yahoogroups.com <SouthsideHitmen%
40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:SouthsideHitmen% <SouthsideHitmen%25>
> >
40yahoogroups.com><mailto:SouthsideHitmen@<mailto:SouthsideHitmen%
<SouthsideHitmen%25>
> > 40yahoogroups.co>
> > > m>
> > > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 6:32 PM
> > > > Subject: [SouthsideHitmen] Question
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > All,
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone heard what's going on with Chad Durham? is he
still
> > > in the
> > > > Sox system? he was supposed to be a highly touted prospect.
> > and
> > > also
> > > > Kris Honel? local LHP. I'm tired of hearing about Jones and
> > > Hunter!!!
> > > > Anderson will probably just be a great late inning defensive
> > > guy?
> > > >
> > > > Joey
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

-------------- Original message from Joan <joan710@...>: --------------


> Sox decline options on Erstad, Myers
> By Mark Gonzales, 9:39 a.m.
>
> The White Sox declined the 2008 options on first
> baseman-outfielder Darin Erstad and left-handed
> reliever Mike Myers, making both players free agents.
>
> Erstad, whose 2007 season was plagued by injuries,
> will be given a $250,000 buyout. He had hoped that the
> Sox would pick up a $3.5 million for 2008, but he
> batted only .248 in 87 games and saw his playing time
> diminish in the second half.
>
> Myers, 38, was signed as a free agent in
> mid-September. There was no buyout in Myers' contract.
> He had an 11.20 ERA in 17 appearances with the Sox
> after being released by the New York Yankees.
>
&g t; The Sox now have 37 players on their 40-man roster.
> They have until Nov. 7 to decide whether to pick up
> the $5 million option on shortstop Juan Uribe or give
> him a $300,000 buyout.
>
>
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Sox decline options on Erstad, Myers
By Mark Gonzales, 9:39 a.m.

The White Sox declined the 2008 options on first
baseman-outfielder Darin Erstad and left-handed
reliever Mike Myers, making both players free agents.

Erstad, whose 2007 season was plagued by injuries,
will be given a $250,000 buyout. He had hoped that the
Sox would pick up a $3.5 million for 2008, but he
batted only .248 in 87 games and saw his playing time
diminish in the second half.

Myers, 38, was signed as a free agent in
mid-September. There was no buyout in Myers' contract.
He had an 11.20 ERA in 17 appearances with the Sox
after being released by the New York Yankees.

The Sox now have 37 players on their 40-man roster.
They have until Nov. 7 to decide whether to pick up
the $5 million option on shortstop Juan Uribe or give
him a $300,000 buyout.



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From: Mark Phillips [mailto:markp8867@gmail.com]

It's true. I think Boston's AAA team at the start of this season could
probably compete with most NL teams. The AL has been the dominant
league for well over a decade now. The Yankees could have beat the
Diamondbacks and Marlins and the Tigers should have beat the Cards last
year based solely on the talent of the players at that time. The only
exception would be the 1997 World Series when the Marlins were better
than the Indians since Florida upped their payroll just to take a shot
and win which they did.

"I don't think anybody would debate that now the American League as a
whole seems to be a stronger league than the National league based on
their head-to-head meetings," Atlanta Braves president John Schuerholz
said. "But it is cyclical, as most anything in our game. I don't think
the American League is going to be dominant forever."

I think he's dead wrong. The national league teams are lying to
themselves if they think they keep operating without spending the money
the Yankees, Red Sox, Angels and to a lesser extent the Soxs and
Clevelands spend. The AL has been kicking the snot out of the NL for a
good decade straight and who do you think will be favored next season?
Does anyone really believe the Yankees won't be a playoff team with or
without Rodriguez or any of their other potential free agents? Please.
Add the much improved AL Central and and the Angels and the NL can't
touch this league. One need only look at what the Red Sox did to what
everyone considered to be the hottest team in baseball (sweep) to see
the Marlins and Cardinals winning were exceptions to the rule. Big
time. Gimme AL baseball any day.

JK

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I see we've decided not to pick up the options on Erstad and Myers.
Mistake on the Erstad end. Myers- who cares. Now lets hope we soon
read "Sox decided to dump Uribe- move to bring in new SS".
GM Bill

I see the Tigers traded 2 minor leaguers to the Braves for SS Edgar
Renteria. OK, fine. It makes one of our rivals stronger. But what I
like it is the Tigers, realizing a need (they're going to move Carlos
Guillen to 1st next season) move quickly to shore up the need. They
get their fans excited right after the season ends. I wish KWill had
more of that in him. Renteria wasn't at the top of my SS wish list
but I'd take him any day over that piece of cheese we have at short.
GM Bill

It is my firm and unshakeable belief that the Dodgers are courting Joe
Torre to become their manager so they have a better chance of signing
ARod.
GM Bill

-------------- Original message from "Mark Phillips" <markp8867@...>: --------------

I know from watching TWIB that Aaron has got a lot of his Philly teammates into racing remote controlled trucks.  These are pretty big and expensive toys too.  They get to field early and race them on the dirt before batting practice. 

 

On 10/30/07, writerly@... <writerly@...> wrote:

I don't know how many of you are NHRA fans, but on Sunday they talked to a "celebrity" who was at the race, and it was Aaron Rowand.  He is friends with one of the funny car drivers, and was invited to the race in Las Vegas this past weekend.  It was great to see him, and especially to see that he was considered a celebrity.  :)

 

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From: Mark Phillips [mailto:markp8867@...]

It's true.  I think Boston's AAA team at the start of this season could
probably compete with most NL teams.  The AL has been the dominant
league for well over a decade now.  The Yankees could have beat the
Diamondbacks and Marlins and the Tigers should have beat the Cards last
year based solely on the talent of the players at that time.  The only
exception would be the 1997 World Series when the Marlins were better
than the Indians since Florida upped their payroll just to take a shot
and win which they did.

"I don't think anybody would debate that now the American League as a
whole seems to be a stronger league than the National league based on
their head-to-head meetings," Atlanta Braves president John Schuerholz
said. "But it is cyclical, as most anything in our game. I don't think
the American League is going to be dominant forever."

I think he's dead wrong.  The national league teams are lying to
themselves if they think they keep operating without spending the money
the Yankees, Red Sox, Angels and to a lesser extent the Soxs and
Clevelands spend.  The AL has been kicking the snot out of the NL for a
good decade straight and who do you think will be favored next season?
Does anyone really believe the Yankees won't be a playoff team with or
without Rodriguez or any of their other potential free agents?  Please.
Add the much improved AL Central and and the Angels and the NL can't
touch this league.  One need only look at what the Red Sox did to what
everyone considered to be the hottest team in baseball (sweep) to see
the Marlins and Cardinals winning were exceptions to the rule.  Big
time.  Gimme AL baseball any day.

JK

Linebrink, cordero and castillo
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 1:08 pm, Mark Phillips wrote:
> To vote, go to this website: 
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>
> Which free agent(s) would you like to see on the 2008 White Sox?
>
> Francisco Cordero
>
> Torii Hunter
>
> Mariano Rivera
>
> Alex Rodriguez
>
> Aaron Rowand
>
> David Eckstein
>
> Scott Linebrink
>
> Luis Castillo
>
> Barry Bonds
>
> Other (specify in comments)
>
>
-Kev-

From: Mark Phillips [mailto:markp8867@...]

David Eckstein

This one is intriguing.  The Sox need a sparkplug.

Unless the Yankees are going to include Joba Chamberlain in any deal,
there is nobody in the Yankees farm system who can help us.


--- In YouCanPutItOnTheBoard@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Phillips"
<markp8867@...> wrote:
>
> ESPN reported that Dora was working on a deal with the Yankees for 5
> years/150 million so this all may be moot.
>
> ===========================================================
>  *White Sox could benefit from A-Rod's decision*
>
> Tuesday, Oct 30, 2007 8:58 am EDT
>
> Alex Rodriguez probably is too costly for Ken Williams' off-season
wish list, but the Chicago White Sox general manager just might
benefit from Rodriguez's free agency.
>
> If Rodriguez leaves, the New York Yankees could seek a third
> baseman unless they stick with perennial prospect Wilson
> Betemit, and the Sox may need to move one of their third basemen-Joe
> Crede or even Josh Fields-to shore up a shoddy bullpen in addition
to fortifying the top of the lineup and stabilizing the outfield.
>
> The Yankees have a surplus of young power arms, and the Sox's
evaluation of the Yankees' prospects started last summer and
continues into the Arizona Fall League.
>
Source: Chicago Tribune

**Until Crede comes back and proves that he can still play and that
the back is healed (and that will take a half season minimum) he has
absolutely NO trade value.  None.  Zip.  Nada.  I predict he will be
resigned at an amount that is cost effective to the Sox (no one else
is going to take a chance on him) and will be given the 3rd base
job.  Fields will be playing first next season if Crede's back holds
out.
GM Bill

--- In YouCanPutItOnTheBoard@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Phillips"
<markp8867@...> wrote:
>
> Maybe he will be ready for spring training but with which team?
If Boston
> can't re-sign Lowell then it might be the Red Sox but of course
that is just
> speculation on my part.  Kenny would probably want pitchers in
return and
> maybe the ones he wanted for Buehrle who haven't yet played in the
big
> leagues yet.  I just hope he doesn't trade Crede for Crisp because
that deal
> would suck.


>
>
> On 10/28/07, Joan <joan710@...> wrote:
> >
> >   Crede OKd to prepare for spring
> > But contract, Fields' skills cloud return
> >
> > By Mark Gonzales | Tribune staff reporter
> > 10:33 PM CDT, October 26, 2007
> >
> > The White Sox solved one question Friday when they
> > learned third baseman Joe Crede had been cleared for
> > all baseball activity.
> >
> > Crede's progress from lower-back surgery June 12 gives
> > the Sox some assurance he will be ready before spring
> > training in mid-February and gives them options as
> > they try to improve a roster that lost 90 games in
> > 2007.
> >
> > Questions, however, remain about third base because
> > Crede can become a free agent after the 2008 season.
> > Josh Fields lacks Crede's defensive skills, but he was
> > moved back to third after a four-week stint in left
> > field late in the 2007 season.
> >
> > But Fields did hit 23 home runs in less than four
> > months with the Sox. General manager Ken Williams
> > scuttled plans to have him polish his outfield skills
> > in a 10-day stint this month in the Instructional
> > League in Arizona because he said Fields' legs were
> > fatigued.
> >
> > Crede and utility player Pablo Ozuna were reinstated
> > to the 40-man roster from the 60-day disabled list
> > Friday, and reliever Ryan Bukvich was outrighted to
> > Triple-A Charlotte. Bukvich declined his assignment
> > and will become a free agent.
> >
> > The moves leave the Sox with 39 players on the roster.
> > Teams cannot carry players on the 15- or 60-day DL
> > when 40-man rosters are required to be submitted by
> > Nov. 20.
> >
> > The value of Crede, who is eligible for arbitration,
> > will be an interesting topic for the Sox. He received
> > $4.94 million last season but played only 47 games,
> > hitting .216 with four homers. That was a considerable
> > drop from 2006, when he batted .283 with a career-high
> > 30 home runs.
> >
> > And despite an expected healthy return from Ozuna, who
> > missed the final four months because of a broken right
> > leg and a torn ligament in his right ankle, the Sox
> > are expected to seek a backup shortstop this winter as
> > well as a starting shortstop if they elect to buy out
> > Juan Uribe for $300,000.
> >
> > Since joining the Sox in 2005, Ozuna has played
> > primarily left field, third base and second base and
> > has played shortstop in only one game in the last two
> > seasons.
> >
> > The Sox could clear more space on their 40-man roster
> > if they decline the options on outfielder-first
> > baseman Darin Erstad, left-handed reliever Mike Myers
> > and Uribe, thus making them free agents.
> >
> > The Sox must put pitching prospects Adam Russell and
> > Jack Egbert on the 40-man roster by Nov. 20 or risk
> > losing them in the Rule 5 draft.
> >
> > Egbert was scheduled to start Friday night for the
> > East Division team in the Rising Stars Showcase at
> > Surprise, Ariz. He has a 3.68 ERA in three starts for
> > the Phoenix Desert Dogs of the Arizona Fall League.
> >
> > Bukvich, 29, had a 5.05 ERA in 45 appearances. He
> > joined the Sox organization last spring as a
> > non-roster invitee and was promoted June 5 after the
> > failures of David Aardsma and Mike MacDougal.
> >
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