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#15096 From: "Mark Phillips" <markp8867@...>
Date: Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:20 pm
Subject: Re: [YCPIOTB] (unknown)
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I think Aaron would do well in San Diego if that trade goes through.  It would be a good one for the Phillies to make as well.  San Diego is a better city than Philadelphia which isn't saying much but San Diego in my opinion is probably the best city in the USA if not the world.  Everyone should remember that big homer Aaron hit there in 2005 to give the Sox a big win.  That outfield also has a lot of ground to cover, that is for sure.  And if you ever visit San Diego while a game is going on, you can go into that park behind centerfield and watch Aaron for free! 

 
On 1/31/07, Joan <joan710@...> wrote:

The Padres have at least temporarily tabled a trade
offer from Philadelphia that would have brought
outfielder Aaron Rowand to the Padres for relief
pitcher Scott Linebrink.
-- San Diego Union-Tribune

Carl Pavano's spot as the Yankees No. 5 starter is
hardly guaranteed either, given his long layoff.
Should Pavano flop, top pitching prospect Phil Hughes
is waiting in the wings to take his place. Hughes
could be make the big-league team's roster as soon as
Opening Day, senior vice president for baseball
operations Mark Newman said.
-- Newark Star-Ledger

Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein threw a shutout
at the paparazzi, gossip columnists, nosy
sportswriters, celebrity bloggers, and any other
potential wedding crashers by sneaking off earlier
this month to marry Marie Whitney, and also managed to
keep their honeymoon a secret.
-- Boston Globe

If Barry Bonds is indicted during the 2007 season, the
Giants could be in the market for a cleanup hitter.
-- San Francisco Chronicle

Barry Bonds spent more than an hour at the Giants'
ballpark Tuesday, mingling with about 200 full-time
Giants employees. He has been a Giant for 14 years,
but this was his first meet-and-greet.
-- San Francisco Chronicle

Well aware of criticism directed at his client for
failing to return to the Cardinals, agent Scott Boras
redirected blame at the Cards for failing to make a
"competitive" bid for Jeff Weaver.
-- St. Louis Post-Dispatch

The Red Sox and Colorado apparently weren't fooling
around when they agreed that trade talks for Rockies
All-Star first baseman Todd Helton were dead.
According to sources, the sides did not speak
yesterday and the Sox have no intention of restarting
negotiations.
-- Boston Herald

The Red Sox still aren't close to reaching a deal with
Wily Mo Pena on a new contract, which could lead to
the first arbitration case to go to a hearing since
Theo Epstein took over as general manager after the
2002 season.
-- Boston Herald

What's Jonathan Papelbon doing hanging around with Red
Sox-hater Spike Lee? The stud pitcher is working with
the director on a commercial for New Era baseball
caps.
-- Boston Globe

Mike Mussina acknowledged what everyone presumed: Carl
Pavano needs to earn back a ton of respect in the
Yankees clubhouse, and quick.
-- New York Post

If Sammy Sosa makes the Rangers, he would receive a
base salary of $500,000 and be primarily a designated
hitter, but he could see some time in the outfield. He
can earn up to $2.2 million in bonuses based on plate
appearances.
-- Fort Worth Star-Telegram

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http://www.baseballnewscentral.com/
http://www.benmaller.com/#mlb_rumors_notes
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
http://www.prosportsdaily.com/mlb/mlbrumors.html
http://www.mlb-trade-rumors.com/

Grinder Rule #95. Be more than a one hit wonder.

"For who? My teammates. For what? To win."

Win. Or die trying.
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#15095 From: "Mark Phillips" <markp8867@...>
Date: Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:14 pm
Subject: Re: [YCPIOTB] Soxfest Report
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Sounds like you had fun!  I also talked with Mark's dad and met his mom.  I saw Jamie there too but I didn't get to meet her.  I got my LE Post Office World Champions postmark print signed by Mark.  He really didn't seem like he wanted to be there however.  I know Mark and some other players like Crede, Paulie, and their families were going to the Bulls-Heat game on Saturday night and used Reinsdorf's suite.  Hopefully that one isn't painted pink too lol.


 
On 1/31/07, Marilyn Adams <madams1954@...> wrote:

Thank You Mark. That's exactly what I was thinking. By the way we were in the same Mark autograph session on Friday. I got my Wheaties box signed and got to meet Marks parents and wife. It was great!
Marilyn
GO SOX!

 
On 1/31/07, Mark Phillips <markp8867@... > wrote:

Umm, no.  Marilyn got it 100% right and you got it wrong, big time.  Mark Buehrle never ever said he wanted to be traded to the Cardinals and he never dissed the White Sox either.  Both of those are downright lies.  He has said he would like to play for the Cardinals someday like at the end of his career should the White Sox not want him anymore.  Obviously that will be sooner than later thanks to KW.  There is nothing wrong with Mark wearing a Cardinals hat on his own time especially to a friggin' World Series game when his hometown team is about to win it all.  He is a fan of theirs...SO WHAT!!  Who pays his salary has nothing to do with it.  The Cardinals are in a different league and when the Sox play them 3 times every 3-5 years, he is 100% on the White Sox.  Paul Konerko said he wouldn't mind playing for his hometown Diamondbacks either so why don't you go start a "Paulie Should Go" thread too.  Then after that start a "Jim Thome Sucks" thread because he is a fan of the CUBS!  Mark is one of the most loyal players the Sox could ever have.  The fact that he still roots for the Cardinals shows the loyalty which he carries with him in every phase of his life.  In this situation, Kenny is being a huge dumbass by severing ties with a player before his final contract season is even played.  The fact he doesn't want to re-sign Mark is his decision but to go about it like this is just plain retarded.  Mark will make good money no matter where he goes and to just think he wants to play for the Cardinals is just plain retarded too.


 
On 1/30/07, jim gorman <pearlzone16@... > wrote:

Me thinks you missed the point!!!!The White Sox pay Buerhle's salary so he can live the life style he is accustomed to.  The Bears were not paying Rowand's salary.  Machowiak was signed by the Pirates, I doubt if he ever wore a Sox jersey or hat to a Pirates game.  Buerhle has history on dissing the White Sox.  Right before he signed his last contract he made the statement that he wanted to be traded to the Cardinals.  I have no pity for Buerhle on anything directed toward him by KW.  KW was only stating the obvious, "The high salaries being paid to mediocre players is ridiculous."  I guess if Buerhle felt the shoe fit then maybe he better wear it.  Everything is in Buerhle's court, he can put up or shut up this year, could be his last chance for a lot of money.  The Cardinals aren't going to give him a big contract if he goes 12-13 this year.

Marilyn Adams <madams1954@...> wrote:

What is wrong with Mark wearing a St. Louis Cardinals jersey? That's his hometown team. He grew up a fan and remains a fan of that team. Aaron Rowand was always wearing Bears clothing and it was well known that he is a HUGE Bears fan. Ozzie said at Soxfest that Aaron called him to ask him if he could use his place in Florida for the Super Bowl. Should the Phillies have a problem with that? I'm sure Aaron will be decked out in Bears clothing. Rob Mackowiak born in Oak Lawn, IL grew up a White Sox fan and played for the Pirates.  
Mark has said over and over that he likes playing in Chicago and would do what it takes to stay here.
 
Marilyn
GO SOX

 
On 1/30/07, John Kivlin <jkivlin@... > wrote:
From: Mark Phillips [mailto:markp8867@...]

The White Sox are not the Devil Rays or Royals. They can afford Mark so
don't go cry poor now Mr. Kenny Williams. Why must he add all this
negativity to the clubhouse right before spring training? It lowers the
morale of the team and will not help the White Sox reach their ultimate
goal which is winning another ring. Not only that but by Kenny saying
he doesn't want Mark back, it will greatly dilute the talent pool with
which Kenny has to work with in order to trade Mark, should that be his
intention. No team will want to give up too much knowing that Mark is
going to be a free agent and that Kenny must trade him just to get
something to save face.

I don't feel sorry for Mark at all. The guy has never shied away from
questions regarding his love for the Cardinals. He's always said he's
wanted to play there. Hell, he was wearing a Cardinals jersey at the
World Series last year for crissake. Mark acting hurt is incredibly
surprising to me given his lack of enthusiasm for being with the Sox.

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#15094 From: Joan <joan710@...>
Date: Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:14 pm
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The Padres have at least temporarily tabled a trade
offer from Philadelphia that would have brought
outfielder Aaron Rowand to the Padres for relief
pitcher Scott Linebrink.
-- San Diego Union-Tribune

Carl Pavano's spot as the Yankees No. 5 starter is
hardly guaranteed either, given his long layoff.
Should Pavano flop, top pitching prospect Phil Hughes
is waiting in the wings to take his place. Hughes
could be make the big-league team's roster as soon as
Opening Day, senior vice president for baseball
operations Mark Newman said.
-- Newark Star-Ledger

Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein threw a shutout
at the paparazzi, gossip columnists, nosy
sportswriters, celebrity bloggers, and any other
potential wedding crashers by sneaking off earlier
this month to marry Marie Whitney, and also managed to
keep their honeymoon a secret.
-- Boston Globe

If Barry Bonds is indicted during the 2007 season, the
Giants could be in the market for a cleanup hitter.
-- San Francisco Chronicle

Barry Bonds spent more than an hour at the Giants'
ballpark Tuesday, mingling with about 200 full-time
Giants employees. He has been a Giant for 14 years,
but this was his first meet-and-greet.
-- San Francisco Chronicle

Well aware of criticism directed at his client for
failing to return to the Cardinals, agent Scott Boras
redirected blame at the Cards for failing to make a
"competitive" bid for Jeff Weaver.
-- St. Louis Post-Dispatch

The Red Sox and Colorado apparently weren't fooling
around when they agreed that trade talks for Rockies
All-Star first baseman Todd Helton were dead.
According to sources, the sides did not speak
yesterday and the Sox have no intention of restarting
negotiations.
-- Boston Herald

The Red Sox still aren't close to reaching a deal with
Wily Mo Pena on a new contract, which could lead to
the first arbitration case to go to a hearing since
Theo Epstein took over as general manager after the
2002 season.
-- Boston Herald

What's Jonathan Papelbon doing hanging around with Red
Sox-hater Spike Lee? The stud pitcher is working with
the director on a commercial for New Era baseball
caps.
-- Boston Globe

Mike Mussina acknowledged what everyone presumed: Carl
Pavano needs to earn back a ton of respect in the
Yankees clubhouse, and quick.
-- New York Post

If Sammy Sosa makes the Rangers, he would receive a
base salary of $500,000 and be primarily a designated
hitter, but he could see some time in the outfield. He
can earn up to $2.2 million in bonuses based on plate
appearances.
-- Fort Worth Star-Telegram

http://www.sportsillustrated.com

For more rumors, taken with a grain of salt:
http://www.baseballnewscentral.com/
http://www.benmaller.com/#mlb_rumors_notes
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
http://www.prosportsdaily.com/mlb/mlbrumors.html
http://www.mlb-trade-rumors.com/

Grinder Rule #95. Be more than a one hit wonder.

"For who? My teammates. For what? To win."

Win. Or die trying.
http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/index.jsp?c_id=cws

http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar
http://www.nascar.com/


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#15093 From: "Marilyn Adams" <madams1954@...>
Date: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:11 pm
Subject: Re: [YCPIOTB] Soxfest Report
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Thank You Mark. That's exactly what I was thinking. By the way we were in the same Mark autograph session on Friday. I got my Wheaties box signed and got to meet Marks parents and wife. It was great!
Marilyn
GO SOX!

 
On 1/31/07, Mark Phillips <markp8867@...> wrote:

Umm, no.  Marilyn got it 100% right and you got it wrong, big time.  Mark Buehrle never ever said he wanted to be traded to the Cardinals and he never dissed the White Sox either.  Both of those are downright lies.  He has said he would like to play for the Cardinals someday like at the end of his career should the White Sox not want him anymore.  Obviously that will be sooner than later thanks to KW.  There is nothing wrong with Mark wearing a Cardinals hat on his own time especially to a friggin' World Series game when his hometown team is about to win it all.  He is a fan of theirs...SO WHAT!!  Who pays his salary has nothing to do with it.  The Cardinals are in a different league and when the Sox play them 3 times every 3-5 years, he is 100% on the White Sox.  Paul Konerko said he wouldn't mind playing for his hometown Diamondbacks either so why don't you go start a "Paulie Should Go" thread too.  Then after that start a "Jim Thome Sucks" thread because he is a fan of the CUBS!  Mark is one of the most loyal players the Sox could ever have.  The fact that he still roots for the Cardinals shows the loyalty which he carries with him in every phase of his life.  In this situation, Kenny is being a huge dumbass by severing ties with a player before his final contract season is even played.  The fact he doesn't want to re-sign Mark is his decision but to go about it like this is just plain retarded.  Mark will make good money no matter where he goes and to just think he wants to play for the Cardinals is just plain retarded too.


 
On 1/30/07, jim gorman <pearlzone16@... > wrote:

Me thinks you missed the point!!!!The White Sox pay Buerhle's salary so he can live the life style he is accustomed to.  The Bears were not paying Rowand's salary.  Machowiak was signed by the Pirates, I doubt if he ever wore a Sox jersey or hat to a Pirates game.  Buerhle has history on dissing the White Sox.  Right before he signed his last contract he made the statement that he wanted to be traded to the Cardinals.  I have no pity for Buerhle on anything directed toward him by KW.  KW was only stating the obvious, "The high salaries being paid to mediocre players is ridiculous."  I guess if Buerhle felt the shoe fit then maybe he better wear it.  Everything is in Buerhle's court, he can put up or shut up this year, could be his last chance for a lot of money.  The Cardinals aren't going to give him a big contract if he goes 12-13 this year.

Marilyn Adams <madams1954@...> wrote:

What is wrong with Mark wearing a St. Louis Cardinals jersey? That's his hometown team. He grew up a fan and remains a fan of that team. Aaron Rowand was always wearing Bears clothing and it was well known that he is a HUGE Bears fan. Ozzie said at Soxfest that Aaron called him to ask him if he could use his place in Florida for the Super Bowl. Should the Phillies have a problem with that? I'm sure Aaron will be decked out in Bears clothing. Rob Mackowiak born in Oak Lawn, IL grew up a White Sox fan and played for the Pirates.  
Mark has said over and over that he likes playing in Chicago and would do what it takes to stay here.
 
Marilyn
GO SOX

 
On 1/30/07, John Kivlin <jkivlin@... > wrote:
From: Mark Phillips [mailto:markp8867@...]

The White Sox are not the Devil Rays or Royals. They can afford Mark so
don't go cry poor now Mr. Kenny Williams. Why must he add all this
negativity to the clubhouse right before spring training? It lowers the
morale of the team and will not help the White Sox reach their ultimate
goal which is winning another ring. Not only that but by Kenny saying
he doesn't want Mark back, it will greatly dilute the talent pool with
which Kenny has to work with in order to trade Mark, should that be his
intention. No team will want to give up too much knowing that Mark is
going to be a free agent and that Kenny must trade him just to get
something to save face.

I don't feel sorry for Mark at all. The guy has never shied away from
questions regarding his love for the Cardinals. He's always said he's
wanted to play there. Hell, he was wearing a Cardinals jersey at the
World Series last year for crissake. Mark acting hurt is incredibly
surprising to me given his lack of enthusiasm for being with the Sox.

JK
 



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#15092 From: "Mark Phillips" <markp8867@...>
Date: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:51 pm
Subject: Re: [YCPIOTB] What's Fitting?
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They should give him a huge golden syringe with 756 on the side. 

 
On 1/30/07, R.J.L. <manta_ray4121@...> wrote:

Bud Selig has told MLB officials to prepare for a "fitting" tribute to Barry Bonds in the event he breaks Hank Aaron's mark, and will not snub the accomplishment. Sources said Aaron, no fan of Bonds, has not decided whether he will be on hand for Nos. 755 and 756, despite reports that he will not. One source close to Selig said he expected Aaron ultimately would attend.
-- New York Daily News
 
I think that the most "fitting" tribute the fans can give Barry is, wherever he hits #756, the fans remain so quiet you can hear a pin drop.  That would totally fry his mind.  "Look what I've just done!....Why aren't you adulating me!?!".  That would be priceless.  He's only hanging around to gain the spotlight and have MLB fawn around him.  I personally hope that he never breaks the record, but, unfortunately, it's inevitable.  He only needs 22 more.  Hank Aaron has more class in his hangnail than the "Prima Donna Crybaby" has, and will probably be on hand for 756.  "Class" is not a word in Bonds' dictionary.



#15091 From: "Mark Phillips" <markp8867@...>
Date: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:44 pm
Subject: Re: [YCPIOTB] Soxfest Report
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Umm, no.  Marilyn got it 100% right and you got it wrong, big time.  Mark Buehrle never ever said he wanted to be traded to the Cardinals and he never dissed the White Sox either.  Both of those are downright lies.  He has said he would like to play for the Cardinals someday like at the end of his career should the White Sox not want him anymore.  Obviously that will be sooner than later thanks to KW.  There is nothing wrong with Mark wearing a Cardinals hat on his own time especially to a friggin' World Series game when his hometown team is about to win it all.  He is a fan of theirs...SO WHAT!!  Who pays his salary has nothing to do with it.  The Cardinals are in a different league and when the Sox play them 3 times every 3-5 years, he is 100% on the White Sox.  Paul Konerko said he wouldn't mind playing for his hometown Diamondbacks either so why don't you go start a "Paulie Should Go" thread too.  Then after that start a "Jim Thome Sucks" thread because he is a fan of the CUBS!  Mark is one of the most loyal players the Sox could ever have.  The fact that he still roots for the Cardinals shows the loyalty which he carries with him in every phase of his life.  In this situation, Kenny is being a huge dumbass by severing ties with a player before his final contract season is even played.  The fact he doesn't want to re-sign Mark is his decision but to go about it like this is just plain retarded.  Mark will make good money no matter where he goes and to just think he wants to play for the Cardinals is just plain retarded too.


 
On 1/30/07, jim gorman <pearlzone16@...> wrote:

Me thinks you missed the point!!!!The White Sox pay Buerhle's salary so he can live the life style he is accustomed to.  The Bears were not paying Rowand's salary.  Machowiak was signed by the Pirates, I doubt if he ever wore a Sox jersey or hat to a Pirates game.  Buerhle has history on dissing the White Sox.  Right before he signed his last contract he made the statement that he wanted to be traded to the Cardinals.  I have no pity for Buerhle on anything directed toward him by KW.  KW was only stating the obvious, "The high salaries being paid to mediocre players is ridiculous."  I guess if Buerhle felt the shoe fit then maybe he better wear it.  Everything is in Buerhle's court, he can put up or shut up this year, could be his last chance for a lot of money.  The Cardinals aren't going to give him a big contract if he goes 12-13 this year.

Marilyn Adams <madams1954@...> wrote:

What is wrong with Mark wearing a St. Louis Cardinals jersey? That's his hometown team. He grew up a fan and remains a fan of that team. Aaron Rowand was always wearing Bears clothing and it was well known that he is a HUGE Bears fan. Ozzie said at Soxfest that Aaron called him to ask him if he could use his place in Florida for the Super Bowl. Should the Phillies have a problem with that? I'm sure Aaron will be decked out in Bears clothing. Rob Mackowiak born in Oak Lawn, IL grew up a White Sox fan and played for the Pirates.  
Mark has said over and over that he likes playing in Chicago and would do what it takes to stay here.
 
Marilyn
GO SOX

 
On 1/30/07, John Kivlin <jkivlin@... > wrote:
From: Mark Phillips [mailto:markp8867@...]

The White Sox are not the Devil Rays or Royals. They can afford Mark so
don't go cry poor now Mr. Kenny Williams. Why must he add all this
negativity to the clubhouse right before spring training? It lowers the
morale of the team and will not help the White Sox reach their ultimate
goal which is winning another ring. Not only that but by Kenny saying
he doesn't want Mark back, it will greatly dilute the talent pool with
which Kenny has to work with in order to trade Mark, should that be his
intention. No team will want to give up too much knowing that Mark is
going to be a free agent and that Kenny must trade him just to get
something to save face.

I don't feel sorry for Mark at all. The guy has never shied away from
questions regarding his love for the Cardinals. He's always said he's
wanted to play there. Hell, he was wearing a Cardinals jersey at the
World Series last year for crissake. Mark acting hurt is incredibly
surprising to me given his lack of enthusiasm for being with the Sox.

JK
 



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#15090 From: writerly@...
Date: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:05 pm
Subject: Re: [YCPIOTB] What's Fitting?
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I couldn't agree more.  Even Mark Macquire's record doesn't mean anything to me.  These guys just can't compare to the true baseball heroes.
 
 
I think that the most "fitting" tribute the fans can give Barry is, wherever he hits #756, the fans remain so quiet you can hear a pin drop.  That would totally fry his mind.  "Look what I've just done!....Why aren't you adulating me!?!".  That would be priceless.  He's only hanging around to gain the spotlight and have MLB fawn around him.  I personally hope that he never breaks the record, but, unfortunately, it's inevitable.  He only needs 22 more.  Hank Aaron has more class in his hangnail than the "Prima Donna Crybaby" has, and will probably be on hand for 756.  "Class" is not a word in Bonds' dictionary.
 
 
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#15089 From: "R.J.L." <manta_ray4121@...>
Date: Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:36 am
Subject: What's Fitting?
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Bud Selig has told MLB officials to prepare for a "fitting" tribute to Barry Bonds in the event he breaks Hank Aaron's mark, and will not snub the accomplishment. Sources said Aaron, no fan of Bonds, has not decided whether he will be on hand for Nos. 755 and 756, despite reports that he will not. One source close to Selig said he expected Aaron ultimately would attend.
-- New York Daily News
 
I think that the most "fitting" tribute the fans can give Barry is, wherever he hits #756, the fans remain so quiet you can hear a pin drop.  That would totally fry his mind.  "Look what I've just done!....Why aren't you adulating me!?!".  That would be priceless.  He's only hanging around to gain the spotlight and have MLB fawn around him.  I personally hope that he never breaks the record, but, unfortunately, it's inevitable.  He only needs 22 more.  Hank Aaron has more class in his hangnail than the "Prima Donna Crybaby" has, and will probably be on hand for 756.  "Class" is not a word in Bonds' dictionary.

#15088 From: jim gorman <pearlzone16@...>
Date: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:50 pm
Subject: Re: [YCPIOTB] Soxfest Report
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Me thinks you missed the point!!!!The White Sox pay Buerhle's salary so he can live the life style he is accustomed to.  The Bears were not paying Rowand's salary.  Machowiak was signed by the Pirates, I doubt if he ever wore a Sox jersey or hat to a Pirates game.  Buerhle has history on dissing the White Sox.  Right before he signed his last contract he made the statement that he wanted to be traded to the Cardinals.  I have no pity for Buerhle on anything directed toward him by KW.  KW was only stating the obvious, "The high salaries being paid to mediocre players is ridiculous."  I guess if Buerhle felt the shoe fit then maybe he better wear it.  Everything is in Buerhle's court, he can put up or shut up this year, could be his last chance for a lot of money.  The Cardinals aren't going to give him a big contract if he goes 12-13 this year.

Marilyn Adams <madams1954@...> wrote:
What is wrong with Mark wearing a St. Louis Cardinals jersey? That's his hometown team. He grew up a fan and remains a fan of that team. Aaron Rowand was always wearing Bears clothing and it was well known that he is a HUGE Bears fan. Ozzie said at Soxfest that Aaron called him to ask him if he could use his place in Florida for the Super Bowl. Should the Phillies have a problem with that? I'm sure Aaron will be decked out in Bears clothing. Rob Mackowiak born in Oak Lawn, IL grew up a White Sox fan and played for the Pirates.  
Mark has said over and over that he likes playing in Chicago and would do what it takes to stay here.
 
Marilyn
GO SOX

 
On 1/30/07, John Kivlin <jkivlin@...> wrote:
From: Mark Phillips [mailto:markp8867@...]

The White Sox are not the Devil Rays or Royals. They can afford Mark so
don't go cry poor now Mr. Kenny Williams. Why must he add all this
negativity to the clubhouse right before spring training? It lowers the
morale of the team and will not help the White Sox reach their ultimate
goal which is winning another ring. Not only that but by Kenny saying
he doesn't want Mark back, it will greatly dilute the talent pool with
which Kenny has to work with in order to trade Mark, should that be his
intention. No team will want to give up too much knowing that Mark is
going to be a free agent and that Kenny must trade him just to get
something to save face.

I don't feel sorry for Mark at all. The guy has never shied away from
questions regarding his love for the Cardinals. He's always said he's
wanted to play there. Hell, he was wearing a Cardinals jersey at the
World Series last year for crissake. Mark acting hurt is incredibly
surprising to me given his lack of enthusiasm for being with the Sox.

JK



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#15087 From: "Mark Phillips" <markp8867@...>
Date: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:31 pm
Subject: Re: [YCPIOTB] Soxfest Report
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That's great!  I wish I could have seen that.  If Soxfest was at the Hyatt I would have seen it because the Opening Ceremony is right before they let everyone in.  To say the least I was disappointed that I couldn't watch the Opening Ceremony because I needed to stand in line for Mark Buehrle's autograph first.


 
On 1/30/07, writerly@... <writerly@...> wrote:

I saw that on the news - it was awesome with his name and number on it.
 
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-------------- Original message from "Marilyn Adams" <madams1954@...>: --------------

Something I almost forgot is that Ozzie came into Soxfest with a Bears jersey on.

On 1/30/07, Marilyn Adams <madams1954@... > wrote:
What is wrong with Mark wearing a St. Louis Cardinals jersey? That's his hometown team. He grew up a fan and remains a fan of that team. Aaron Rowand was always wearing Bears clothing and it was well known that he is a HUGE Bears fan. Ozzie said at Soxfest that Aaron called him to ask him if he could use his place in Florida for the Super Bowl. Should the Phillies have a problem with that? I'm sure Aaron will be decked out in Bears clothing. Rob Mackowiak born in Oak Lawn, IL grew up a White Sox fan and played for the Pirates.  
Mark has said over and over that he likes playing in Chicago and would do what it takes to stay here.
 
Marilyn
GO SOX

 
On 1/30/07, John Kivlin < jkivlin@... > wrote:

From: Mark Phillips [mailto:markp8867@...]

The White Sox are not the Devil Rays or Royals. They can afford Mark so
don't go cry poor now Mr. Kenny Williams. Why must he add all this
negativity to the clubhouse right before spring training? It lowers the
morale of the team and will not help the White Sox reach their ultimate
goal which is winning another ring. Not only that but by Kenny saying
he doesn't want Mark back, it will greatly dilute the talent pool with
which Kenny has to work with in order to trade Mark, should that be his
intention. No team will want to give up too much knowing that Mark is
going to be a free agent and that Kenny must trade him just to get
something to save face.

I don't feel sorry for Mark at all. The guy has never shied away from
questions regarding his love for the Cardi nals. He's always said he's
wanted to play there. Hell, he was wearing a Cardinals jersey at the
World Series last year for crissake. Mark acting hurt is incredibly
surprising to me given his lack of enthusiasm for being with the Sox.

JK





#15086 From: writerly@...
Date: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:29 pm
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I saw that on the news - it was awesome with his name and number on it.
 
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-------------- Original message from "Marilyn Adams" <madams1954@...>: --------------

Something I almost forgot is that Ozzie came into Soxfest with a Bears jersey on.

On 1/30/07, Marilyn Adams <madams1954@...> wrote:
What is wrong with Mark wearing a St. Louis Cardinals jersey? That's his hometown team. He grew up a fan and remains a fan of that team. Aaron Rowand was always wearing Bears clothing and it was well known that he is a HUGE Bears fan. Ozzie said at Soxfest that Aaron called him to ask him if he could use his place in Florida for the Super Bowl. Should the Phillies have a problem with that? I'm sure Aaron will be decked out in Bears clothing. Rob Mackowiak born in Oak Lawn, IL grew up a White Sox fan and played for the Pirates.  
Mark has said over and over that he likes playing in Chicago and would do what it takes to stay here.
 
Marilyn
GO SOX

 
On 1/30/07, John Kivlin <jkivlin@... > wrote:

From: Mark Phillips [mailto:markp8867@...]

The White Sox are not the Devil Rays or Royals. They can afford Mark so
don't go cry poor now Mr. Kenny Williams. Why must he add all this
negativity to the clubhouse right before spring training? It lowers the
morale of the team and will not help the White Sox reach their ultimate
goal which is winning another ring. Not only that but by Kenny saying
he doesn't want Mark back, it will greatly dilute the talent pool with
which Kenny has to work with in order to trade Mark, should that be his
intention. No team will want to give up too much knowing that Mark is
going to be a free agent and that Kenny must trade him just to get
something to save face.

I don't feel sorry for Mark at all. The guy has never shied away from
questions regarding his love for the Cardi nals. He's always said he's
wanted to play there. Hell, he was wearing a Cardinals jersey at the
World Series last year for crissake. Mark acting hurt is incredibly
surprising to me given his lack of enthusiasm for being with the Sox.

JK




#15085 From: Joan <joan710@...>
Date: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:24 pm
Subject: Today's Truth & Rumors
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Roger Clemens said he hasn't decided if he'll pitch this year. He said he's not in good baseball shape, but doesn't plan on playing a full season, if he does pitch again.
-- Houston Chronicle
 
Two of the five members of the Marlins' starting rotation, righthanders Josh Johnson and Anibal Sanchez, are dealing with throwing arm injuries that could put a crimp in their spring training plans. There is a good chance neither will be prepared to throw off a mound when camp opens Feb. 17.
-- Miami Herald
 
Bud Selig has told MLB officials to prepare for a "fitting" tribute to Barry Bonds in the event he breaks Hank Aaron's mark, and will not snub the accomplishment. Sources said Aaron, no fan of Bonds, has not decided whether he will be on hand for Nos. 755 and 756, despite reports that he will not. One source close to Selig said he expected Aaron ultimately would attend.
-- New York Daily News
 
Barry Bonds will be all alone in 2007 -- except for his 24 teammates. One of his contract's provisions is that the leftfielder can't have his entourage -- notably his two personal trainers -- anywhere at the ballpark, including the clubhouse, trainers' room, dugout or field.
-- San Francisco Chronicle
 
The Giants earlier this month briefly explored ways of trying to get out of a tentative agreement they reached with Barry Bonds on Dec. 7, including the use of the positive amphetamines test. But the commissioner's office told them that they could not do it, and yesterday they reached final agreement with Bonds, who then took the requisite physical.
-- New York Times
 
Todd Helton, who had agreed to waive his no-trade clause to come to Boston, is not expected to be warm and fuzzy about returning to Colorado. While Rockies owner Charles Monfort said there would be no further discussions, one source with knowledge of these talks indicated that it would not be surprising to see them rekindled in spring training.
-- Boston Globe
 
Curt Schilling never meant to mislead anyone about his retirement plans; it's just that his most private conversations with his wife and children led him to a different future. While Schilling is hoping that talks on an extension won't get into spring training, Red Sox GM Theo Epstein is taking some time off before camp begins, which might preclude a quick resolution.
-- Boston Globe
 
Sammy Sosa's long-awaited minor league contract is done. The Rangers will announce his signing in a press conference tomorrow. Sosa will be on a minor league deal at spring training. He is still going to have to win a roster spot.
-- Dallas Morning News
 
The Rangers are interested in signing LHP Bruce Chen to a minor league deal. Chen, who pitched well in Puerto Rico this winter, is weighing similar offers.
-- Dallas Morning News
 
The Marlins were one of several teams on hand to watch outfielder Shannon Stewart provide a private workout Friday at Miami-Dade Community College. He also was being scouted by the Mariners, A's, Rangers, Angels, Reds, Padres and White Sox.
-- Miami Herald
 
Pirates shortstop Jack Wilson stood by every syllable of the critical comments he made about teammate Jose Castillo during a televised interview Friday, from his view that Castillo was lazy at times to his pointing out that Castillo was not in peak physical shape.
-- Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
 
Mets pitcher Tom Glavine says he's 50-50 on whether he'll retire after this year.
-- Newsday
 
As the Cardinals pursued and pursued and pursued pitching, Preston Wilson weighed interest from other clubs but waited for his preferred destination to express their interest in the form of a contract.
-- St. Louis Post-Dispatch
 


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#15084 From: "Marilyn Adams" <madams1954@...>
Date: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:08 pm
Subject: Re: [YCPIOTB] Soxfest Report
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Something I almost forgot is that Ozzie came into Soxfest with a Bears jersey on.

On 1/30/07, Marilyn Adams <madams1954@...> wrote:
What is wrong with Mark wearing a St. Louis Cardinals jersey? That's his hometown team. He grew up a fan and remains a fan of that team. Aaron Rowand was always wearing Bears clothing and it was well known that he is a HUGE Bears fan. Ozzie said at Soxfest that Aaron called him to ask him if he could use his place in Florida for the Super Bowl. Should the Phillies have a problem with that? I'm sure Aaron will be decked out in Bears clothing. Rob Mackowiak born in Oak Lawn, IL grew up a White Sox fan and played for the Pirates.  
Mark has said over and over that he likes playing in Chicago and would do what it takes to stay here.
 
Marilyn
GO SOX

 
On 1/30/07, John Kivlin <jkivlin@... > wrote:

From: Mark Phillips [mailto:markp8867@...]

The White Sox are not the Devil Rays or Royals. They can afford Mark so
don't go cry poor now Mr. Kenny Williams. Why must he add all this
negativity to the clubhouse right before spring training? It lowers the
morale of the team and will not help the White Sox reach their ultimate
goal which is winning another ring. Not only that but by Kenny saying
he doesn't want Mark back, it will greatly dilute the talent pool with
which Kenny has to work with in order to trade Mark, should that be his
intention. No team will want to give up too much knowing that Mark is
going to be a free agent and that Kenny must trade him just to get
something to save face.

I don't feel sorry for Mark at all. The guy has never shied away from
questions regarding his love for the Cardinals. He's always said he's
wanted to play there. Hell, he was wearing a Cardinals jersey at the
World Series last year for crissake. Mark acting hurt is incredibly
surprising to me given his lack of enthusiasm for being with the Sox.

JK




#15083 From: "Marilyn Adams" <madams1954@...>
Date: Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:34 pm
Subject: Re: [YCPIOTB] Soxfest Report
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What is wrong with Mark wearing a St. Louis Cardinals jersey? That's his hometown team. He grew up a fan and remains a fan of that team. Aaron Rowand was always wearing Bears clothing and it was well known that he is a HUGE Bears fan. Ozzie said at Soxfest that Aaron called him to ask him if he could use his place in Florida for the Super Bowl. Should the Phillies have a problem with that? I'm sure Aaron will be decked out in Bears clothing. Rob Mackowiak born in Oak Lawn, IL grew up a White Sox fan and played for the Pirates.  
Mark has said over and over that he likes playing in Chicago and would do what it takes to stay here.
 
Marilyn
GO SOX

 
On 1/30/07, John Kivlin <jkivlin@...> wrote:

From: Mark Phillips [mailto:markp8867@...]

The White Sox are not the Devil Rays or Royals. They can afford Mark so
don't go cry poor now Mr. Kenny Williams. Why must he add all this
negativity to the clubhouse right before spring training? It lowers the
morale of the team and will not help the White Sox reach their ultimate
goal which is winning another ring. Not only that but by Kenny saying
he doesn't want Mark back, it will greatly dilute the talent pool with
which Kenny has to work with in order to trade Mark, should that be his
intention. No team will want to give up too much knowing that Mark is
going to be a free agent and that Kenny must trade him just to get
something to save face.

I don't feel sorry for Mark at all. The guy has never shied away from
questions regarding his love for the Cardinals. He's always said he's
wanted to play there. Hell, he was wearing a Cardinals jersey at the
World Series last year for crissake. Mark acting hurt is incredibly
surprising to me given his lack of enthusiasm for being with the Sox.

JK



#15082 From: writerly@...
Date: Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:05 pm
Subject: Re: [YCPIOTB] Soxfest Report
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I've never been a big fan of Kenny's.  But that's just me.
 
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-------------- Original message from "Mark Phillips" <markp8867@...>: --------------

Yes, that is what Kenny said.  I'm thinking he's not a very popular guy in the Buehrle household right now lol.  Kenny Williams has had his ups and downs as GM but this has to be one of his biggest downs in my opinion.  Why on earth would you say that about your ace pitcher?  It not only upsets Mark (and he really looked like he didn't want to be at Soxfest) but it also makes the other players think if he can do this to their ace pitcher over the last several years then he can easily do it to anyone. 
 
The White Sox are not the Devil Rays or Royals.  They can afford Mark so don't go cry poor now Mr. Kenny Williams.  Why must he add all this negativity to the clubhouse right before spring training?  It lowers the morale of the team and will not help the White Sox reach their ultimate goal which is winning another ring.  Not only that but by Kenny saying he doesn't want Mark back, it will greatly dilute the talent pool with which Kenny has to work with in order to trade Mark, should that be his intention.  No team will want to give up too much knowing that Mark is going to be a free agent and that Kenny must trade him just to get something to save face.
 
Let's get one thing straight, whether you think Mark's second half struggles of last season is a preview of the rest of his career or as I do which is that his second half was a fluke due to pitching so many innings the past couple of seasons, Mark definitely deserves better than this!  Kenny should be ashamed and his "apology" on Saturday at Soxfest during the seminar was lame at best.  I find it funny how Kenny got so pissy with Frank Thomas the way he brought the team morale down and now Kenny is doing the same exact thing.

 
On 1/30/07, writerly@... <writerly@...> wrote:

Wait... they talked to Mark and his parents?
 
"Kenny said he sat down today with Mark and his parents and talked about it to smooth things over. "
 
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www.whiplashfiles.blogspot.com
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#15081 From: "John Kivlin" <jkivlin@...>
Date: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:07 pm
Subject: RE: [YCPIOTB] Soxfest Report
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The White Sox are not the Devil Rays or Royals.  They can afford Mark so
don't go cry poor now Mr. Kenny Williams.  Why must he add all this
negativity to the clubhouse right before spring training?  It lowers the
morale of the team and will not help the White Sox reach their ultimate
goal which is winning another ring.  Not only that but by Kenny saying
he doesn't want Mark back, it will greatly dilute the talent pool with
which Kenny has to work with in order to trade Mark, should that be his
intention.  No team will want to give up too much knowing that Mark is
going to be a free agent and that Kenny must trade him just to get
something to save face.

I don't feel sorry for Mark at all.  The guy has never shied away from
questions regarding his love for the Cardinals.  He's always said he's
wanted to play there.  Hell, he was wearing a Cardinals jersey at the
World Series last year for crissake.  Mark acting hurt is incredibly
surprising to me given his lack of enthusiasm for being with the Sox.

JK

#15080 From: "Mark Phillips" <markp8867@...>
Date: Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:50 pm
Subject: Re: [YCPIOTB] Soxfest Report
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Yes, that is what Kenny said.  I'm thinking he's not a very popular guy in the Buehrle household right now lol.  Kenny Williams has had his ups and downs as GM but this has to be one of his biggest downs in my opinion.  Why on earth would you say that about your ace pitcher?  It not only upsets Mark (and he really looked like he didn't want to be at Soxfest) but it also makes the other players think if he can do this to their ace pitcher over the last several years then he can easily do it to anyone. 
 
The White Sox are not the Devil Rays or Royals.  They can afford Mark so don't go cry poor now Mr. Kenny Williams.  Why must he add all this negativity to the clubhouse right before spring training?  It lowers the morale of the team and will not help the White Sox reach their ultimate goal which is winning another ring.  Not only that but by Kenny saying he doesn't want Mark back, it will greatly dilute the talent pool with which Kenny has to work with in order to trade Mark, should that be his intention.  No team will want to give up too much knowing that Mark is going to be a free agent and that Kenny must trade him just to get something to save face.
 
Let's get one thing straight, whether you think Mark's second half struggles of last season is a preview of the rest of his career or as I do which is that his second half was a fluke due to pitching so many innings the past couple of seasons, Mark definitely deserves better than this!  Kenny should be ashamed and his "apology" on Saturday at Soxfest during the seminar was lame at best.  I find it funny how Kenny got so pissy with Frank Thomas the way he brought the team morale down and now Kenny is doing the same exact thing.

 
On 1/30/07, writerly@... <writerly@...> wrote:

Wait... they talked to Mark and his parents?
 
"Kenny said he sat down today with Mark and his parents and talked about it to smooth things over. "
 
--
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www.whiplashfiles.blogspot.com
Author of the Head Case rock series
 

 
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#15079 From: writerly@...
Date: Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:55 pm
Subject: Re: [YCPIOTB] Soxfest Report
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Wait... they talked to Mark and his parents?
 
"Kenny said he sat down today with Mark and his parents and talked about it to smooth things over. "
 
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Author of the Head Case rock series

-------------- Original message from "Mark Phillips" <markp8867@...>: --------------

I hope you were able to sell your passes and thanks for posting that on the group.  I was at Soxfest today and it's really a lot lamer than it was before when it was at the Hyatt.  The Palmer House Hilton sucks!!  I still can't believe they moved Soxfest here from the Hyatt.  I am talking to the White Sox to move Soxfest 2008 to my place since it's as proportionally smaller to the Palmer House as the Palmer House was to the Hyatt.  Waiting in line before Soxfest starts really stinks too because many people have to wait outside for several hours now instead of inside like at the Hyatt.  
 
Anyway I was at the seminar today about the 2007 White Sox with Kenny Williams and Ozzie Guillen.  Kenny was asked about recent comments by Mark Buehrle about wanting an extension and not asking for Barry Zito type money and Kenny's prior comments about Mark not being a White Sox in 2008.  Kenny said he sat down today with Mark and his parents and talked about it to smooth things over.  Kenny said he regrets the media was used in this way and should have seen it coming.  Duh.  Kenny however never waivered on saying that Mark wouldn't be back.  Kenny said there are a lot of things to consider regarding salaries and how players fit and it's not an easy decision blah blah blah. 
 
I have to tell you Kenny is such a bore at these seminars, he puts the room to sleep.  Thankfully Ozzie was there who is of course is instant comic relief.  He made light of the fact the guy on stage doing sign language translation for the deaf could never understand (at the seminar Ozzie was in on Friday) what Ozzie was saying and would put his hands palms up in the air like he didn't know what Ozzie was saying lol.  That was hilarious and believe me a lot more so then my lame explanation.  Unfortunately I'm sure Mariotti will accuse Ozzie of deaf slurs in a future article once Jay follows the yellow brick road and gets his heart back.
 
Let's see other things here at Soxfest...they are having the family party tonight but I am not going.  So if anyone here did go then please tell us how it was.  As far a waiting in line goes to get into Soxfest, I would get there no later than 4am if you don't want to wait outside.  All the people who waited several hours outside today will of course be their early for Sunday so they don't have to go through that hell again.  There are no chairs to sit on either like at the Hyatt so bring your own or sit on the floor (or cold cement if you are outside).  They will also open Soxfest early since the line gets to a point where the line can't go any further (the block around the hotel is only so big lol).  Today they opened Soxfest at 8:30am, an hour and a half early.  Getting autographs isn't really that bad as long as you are in the right place at the right time for the wristbands which are given out on the level the players /coaches will be signing on.  So if you are going tomorrow, have fun and learn how to take the steps and escalators instead of the elevators to the several floors that Soxfest is on. 
 


 
On 1/26/07, Jamie McElligott <jme2323@...> wrote:

Hi all,
 
I know it is very last minute but it turns out that I have 4 extra passes for Saturday's Soxfest. If anyone is interested, let me know. I am not looking to make any money off of them. I paid $45 for each (after the service charges and such) and that is all I am asking for.
 
Thanks,
Jamie



#15078 From: "Mark Phillips" <markp8867@...>
Date: Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:45 pm
Subject: Re: [YCPIOTB] Oh No!
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Well he wouldn't be the first to make that much money.  A-Rod makes way more than that and also players like Jeter and Clemens make that much with bonuses.  The Giants are even dumber than the Rangers lol. 

 
On 1/30/07, R.J.L. <manta_ray4121@...> wrote:

The amphetamine and 'roid ridden Barry Bonds signed today for a 15.8 million contract with incentives which could pay another 4.2 million.  The first "20 Million Dollar BABY" could be Bonds?
 
 
As much as Major League Baseball would love to see Barry Bonds unemployed this year, there would be surprise in the central baseball office if the Giants actually cut ties with the ultra-controversial slugger. It's not going to be that easy for all of us to dispose of Bonds
-- Newsday



#15077 From: "R.J.L." <manta_ray4121@...>
Date: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:01 am
Subject: Oh No!
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The amphetamine and 'roid ridden Barry Bonds signed today for a 15.8 million contract with incentives which could pay another 4.2 million.  The first "20 Million Dollar BABY" could be Bonds?
 
 
As much as Major League Baseball would love to see Barry Bonds unemployed this year, there would be surprise in the central baseball office if the Giants actually cut ties with the ultra-controversial slugger. It's not going to be that easy for all of us to dispose of Bonds
-- Newsday

#15076 From: "thechihawk" <manta_ray4121@...>
Date: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:47 am
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-Who cares what Texass does?  That's one less team that we have to
worry about in the playoffs and will make it easier to kick their
Tex"ass" when we play them.  If I were Otsuka though, I'd definitely
be okorimasu.


-- In YouCanPutItOnTheBoard@yahoogroups.com, saul pulido
<temohead@...> wrote:
>
> It's stupid moves like this that have kept Texas chasing the A's
and Angels in the West div.
>   What a bonehead move by the GM.
>   Texas is finally getting their hitting and pitching in sinc and
then they go and upset the apple cart.
>   Wouldn't it be funny if Texas gets knocked out of contention
because of Gagne getting hammered in relief.
>
> John Kivlin <jkivlin@...> wrote:
>           From: Joan [mailto:joan710@...]
>
> Akinori Otsuka, who was 32-for-36 in saves last year, isn't happy
about
> the Rangers handing his job to Eric Gagne, who worked only two
innings
> last year. If Gagne has a good spring, Texas may deal Otsuka.
>
> -- Chicago Tribune
>
> I read that and if I were Otsuka I'd be pissed. Am I the only one
that
> thinks Gagne is the classic 'body broken by getting of roids'
case? His
> velocity increased materially when he switched to the closing role.
>
>
>
>
>
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#15075 From: saul pulido <temohead@...>
Date: Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:57 am
Subject: RE: [YCPIOTB] Today's Truth & Rumors
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It's stupid moves like this that have kept Texas chasing the A's and Angels in the West div.
What a bonehead move by the GM.
Texas is finally getting their hitting and pitching in sinc and then they go and upset the apple cart.
Wouldn't it be funny if Texas gets knocked out of contention because of Gagne getting hammered in relief.

John Kivlin <jkivlin@...> wrote:
From: Joan [mailto:joan710@yahoo.com]

Akinori Otsuka, who was 32-for-36 in saves last year, isn't happy about
the Rangers handing his job to Eric Gagne, who worked only two innings
last year. If Gagne has a good spring, Texas may deal Otsuka.

-- Chicago Tribune

I read that and if I were Otsuka I'd be pissed. Am I the only one that
thinks Gagne is the classic 'body broken by getting of roids' case? His
velocity increased materially when he switched to the closing role.


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#15074 From: saul pulido <temohead@...>
Date: Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:50 am
Subject: Re: [YCPIOTB] GM Williams clarifies Buehrle situation
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Sounds to me like your getting a bit sentimental with what the players have done in the past.
Yes Buehrle is a good pitcher, but he had a bad second half....and maybe Williams also seen those melons that Buehrle was throwing to the plate last summer and is a bit worried. 
 
Then again Williams could be trying to lite some fire under Buehrle.  Who knows what Williams has up his sleeve. Don't forget that Buehrle was telling the newpapers a while back that he would like to eventually pitch for the St Louis Cards.  
 
One thing is for sure, no one, not even Paulie at 1st base is untouchable.
Crede on the other hand is coming off......hmmm, what should we call it.....a rehab winter?   Maybe he should have had back surgery last fall and the Sox are upset that he did not.  From what I read, two Doctors suggested back surgery.  Crede obviously thought that time off and exercise along with therapy will correct his back problem.
I hope Crede is right. 
 
It could be  that Williams in his own way is just keeping the players from getting lax and does not want them to rest on their past laurels.......or it could be that the Sox are going to back to their penny pinching ways. 
Sometimes it's best to trade a player one year too soon than one year too late.
 
I hope both players have excellent years and get the South Siders into the playoffs, because that would put some heat on Williams to resign them.


Mark Phillips <markp8867@...> wrote:
Remember, this is MLB writing this so it is not exactly "unbiased".  I was at the same "town hall meeting" and what I got from it is that Mark is as good as gone from the White Sox.  It's very unfortunate but Kenny has to stop backtracking like he didn't say the things he has about Mark.  To me, guys like Mark Buehrle and Joe Crede are different then the usual mercenary players who will play anywhere just as long as they get the most money possible.  These two guys have acheived a lot in their careers already and do make some pretty good money as well.  However, they both still live in the town they grew up in so somehow I think change isn't something they are really looking for if everything is going great the way it is like with their careers on the White Sox.  Maybe for Crede that might not be as true since he has Boras as his agent but for Mark, I think he would be happy to stay on the White Sox for the rest of his career.
 

 
GM Williams clarifies Buehrle situation
Talk of southpaw's departure from White Sox premature
 

CHICAGO -- It took three questions into the Town Hall Meeting during Saturday's second day of SoxFest for the topic of the Mark Buehrle-Ken Williams contract extension discussion to be revisited.
A woman stepped to the crowd microphone with a newspaper in hand, and a slight bit of scolding for Williams followed by a minor critique for Buehrle. In particular, she reiterated a point made by Buehrle on Friday of how he's not looking for Barry Zito sort of money, after Zito signed a seven-year, $126 million offseason deal with the Giants. This same woman added somewhat tersely that it was good Buehrle wasn't looking for that particular deal, not after his 4.99 ERA during the 2006 season.
Williams immediately went to Buehrle's defense. It was a conciliatory move made by Williams that wasn't the first in this quick healing process, following Friday's indirect exchange with Buehrle believing his days were numbered in Chicago.
In fact, Williams sat down with Buehrle and his parents Saturday morning at the Palmer House Hilton and apologized for the misunderstanding brought about by Friday's comments to the media, which led to an embarrassing situation for Buehrle. Williams added that he felt sad after reading a newspaper column Saturday painting this baseball couple's impending break-up in a less than amicable light, with the GM describing a strong bond, dating back to Buehrle's days pitching for Double-A Birmingham in 2000 while Williams served as vice president of player development.
"I walked into [chairman] Jerry Reinsdorf and [then-GM] Ron Schueler's office, saying I would put my scouting reputation on the line by telling them to bring him up now, because he will contribute," said Williams of Buehrle, when addressing the overflow crowd at Saturday's meeting, referencing a moment during the 2000 season leading to Buehrle's callup and 4-1 record for the AL Central champions. "Mark Buehrle is a first-class person and a great teammate in the clubhouse, on the plane, on the bus or wherever.
"Mark and I can sit down and talk about the exploding market -- and, going forward, the possibilities out there for him -- in no adversarial or confrontational conversation at all," added Williams, during a 12-minute discussion with White Sox reporters after the question-and-answer session with the fans. "Then, when you see it in print or when you hear about it debated on radio, it's turned into something it isn't."
Saturday morning's conversation, lasting 30 minutes by Williams' estimation, was precipitated by Buehrle's remarks to the media Friday that it didn't really matter what sort of discount he took because Williams had gone on record saying he wouldn't be back with the White Sox. After being asked to comment on Buehrle's thoughts three or four different times in a 30-minute time span, a direct and somewhat terse Williams made it clear that he was talking more about the overall state of the exploding market and how Buehrle's ability might price him out of range for the White Sox, who rarely offer more than three-year deals to pitchers.
That point was made by Williams once again Saturday, both in private and in public. According to Williams, Buehrle was actually bothered more by Williams' quote at the Winter Meetings in Orlando about not overpaying for mediocre pitching. Once again, that statement had nothing to do with Buehrle, whose 97-66 record and 3.83 ERA are career numbers comparable to Zito's 102-63 mark and 3.53 ERA, but instead focused on the market's recent turns in general.

"Mark Buehrle is a first-class person and a great teammate in the clubhouse, on the plane, on the bus or wherever."
-- White Sox GM Ken Williams

Basically, the White Sox wouldn't have World Series rings or a championship trophy without Buehrle's immense contributions. It's another point made clear by Williams to the throng of fans, and a point he understands might make Buehrle too expensive to keep after this final year of his contract.
Regardless of the direction these negotiations eventually go, Williams has vowed to go against his natural character the rest of the way. Williams' first instinct is to answer a direct question with a direct and honest response, instead of giving false hope where none might exist.
But where contract extensions involving valuable and respected commodities such as Buehrle, Jermaine Dye, Joe Crede or Tadahito Iguchi are concerned, a no comment might be the most prudent avenue to travel. The White Sox general manger does not want to paint his leaders in a bad light, even if they could be on their way out after 2007, another point he made to Buehrle and his family Saturday.
"If you ever find a comment from me that has said anything other than positive things about Mark Buehrle, please show it to me," said Williams, who talked about Saturday's informal meeting on his own accord to set the record straight. "It'll be the first. So when I pick up the paper and turn on the radio and I hear all this stuff, this isn't me and this isn't him.
"When I saw his parents first -- I didn't see him first -- I said, 'Let me tell you something first about your son and what a quality person he is. Now, let me tell you about me and what my position is.'
"I explained to them that I have no interest in making who I consider a quality, quality person, I don't have any interest in tarnishing what he has done for the organization or turning him into something to protect the organization. Sometimes, the venom that goes back and forth [on contract negotiations] gets out. I don't think that's right, because [the fans' perception] of the players can be distorted.
"Maybe something will happen," added Williams of future negotiations with Buehrle, pointing out he didn't believe at one point long-term deals could be reached with Jon Garland, Jose Contreras or Paul Konerko, and they all were accomplished. "I was just asked a question what I felt at that time, and what I feel at this time. If this has shown me anything, it's shown me I've got to change the way I conduct business."
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#15073 From: "Mark Phillips" <markp8867@...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:47 pm
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Otsuka is awesome.  I wish he was on the Sox although the Sox are one team that really doesn't need a lot of bullpen help.  I don't get their signing of Gagne but it wouldn't be the first time the Rangers signed a player to a little too much money.  They are still paying like $8-10 million per year to A-Rod who is now competing against them.  I don't even remember who they got for Soriano.  Gagne doesn't look like he has a lot left in the tank.  If he does then I think the Dodgers would have held on to him.  This is why I am not so worried about the McCarthy trade because the Rangers are always making bad decisions.  The trade for Otsuka however was a pretty good one so I will give them that.

 
On 1/29/07, John Kivlin <jkivlin@...> wrote:

From: Joan [mailto:joan710@...]

Akinori Otsuka, who was 32-for-36 in saves last year, isn't happy about
the Rangers handing his job to Eric Gagne, who worked only two innings
last year. If Gagne has a good spring, Texas may deal Otsuka.

-- Chicago Tribune

I read that and if I were Otsuka I'd be pissed. Am I the only one that
thinks Gagne is the classic 'body broken by getting of roids' case? His
velocity increased materially when he switched to the closing role.



#15072 From: "Mark Phillips" <markp8867@...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:36 pm
Subject: GM Williams clarifies Buehrle situation
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Remember, this is MLB writing this so it is not exactly "unbiased".  I was at the same "town hall meeting" and what I got from it is that Mark is as good as gone from the White Sox.  It's very unfortunate but Kenny has to stop backtracking like he didn't say the things he has about Mark.  To me, guys like Mark Buehrle and Joe Crede are different then the usual mercenary players who will play anywhere just as long as they get the most money possible.  These two guys have acheived a lot in their careers already and do make some pretty good money as well.  However, they both still live in the town they grew up in so somehow I think change isn't something they are really looking for if everything is going great the way it is like with their careers on the White Sox.  Maybe for Crede that might not be as true since he has Boras as his agent but for Mark, I think he would be happy to stay on the White Sox for the rest of his career.
 

 
GM Williams clarifies Buehrle situation
Talk of southpaw's departure from White Sox premature
 

CHICAGO -- It took three questions into the Town Hall Meeting during Saturday's second day of SoxFest for the topic of the Mark Buehrle-Ken Williams contract extension discussion to be revisited.

A woman stepped to the crowd microphone with a newspaper in hand, and a slight bit of scolding for Williams followed by a minor critique for Buehrle. In particular, she reiterated a point made by Buehrle on Friday of how he's not looking for Barry Zito sort of money, after Zito signed a seven-year, $126 million offseason deal with the Giants. This same woman added somewhat tersely that it was good Buehrle wasn't looking for that particular deal, not after his 4.99 ERA during the 2006 season.

Williams immediately went to Buehrle's defense. It was a conciliatory move made by Williams that wasn't the first in this quick healing process, following Friday's indirect exchange with Buehrle believing his days were numbered in Chicago.

In fact, Williams sat down with Buehrle and his parents Saturday morning at the Palmer House Hilton and apologized for the misunderstanding brought about by Friday's comments to the media, which led to an embarrassing situation for Buehrle. Williams added that he felt sad after reading a newspaper column Saturday painting this baseball couple's impending break-up in a less than amicable light, with the GM describing a strong bond, dating back to Buehrle's days pitching for Double-A Birmingham in 2000 while Williams served as vice president of player development.

"I walked into [chairman] Jerry Reinsdorf and [then-GM] Ron Schueler's office, saying I would put my scouting reputation on the line by telling them to bring him up now, because he will contribute," said Williams of Buehrle, when addressing the overflow crowd at Saturday's meeting, referencing a moment during the 2000 season leading to Buehrle's callup and 4-1 record for the AL Central champions. "Mark Buehrle is a first-class person and a great teammate in the clubhouse, on the plane, on the bus or wherever.

"Mark and I can sit down and talk about the exploding market -- and, going forward, the possibilities out there for him -- in no adversarial or confrontational conversation at all," added Williams, during a 12-minute discussion with White Sox reporters after the question-and-answer session with the fans. "Then, when you see it in print or when you hear about it debated on radio, it's turned into something it isn't."

Saturday morning's conversation, lasting 30 minutes by Williams' estimation, was precipitated by Buehrle's remarks to the media Friday that it didn't really matter what sort of discount he took because Williams had gone on record saying he wouldn't be back with the White Sox. After being asked to comment on Buehrle's thoughts three or four different times in a 30-minute time span, a direct and somewhat terse Williams made it clear that he was talking more about the overall state of the exploding market and how Buehrle's ability might price him out of range for the White Sox, who rarely offer more than three-year deals to pitchers.

That point was made by Williams once again Saturday, both in private and in public. According to Williams, Buehrle was actually bothered more by Williams' quote at the Winter Meetings in Orlando about not overpaying for mediocre pitching. Once again, that statement had nothing to do with Buehrle, whose 97-66 record and 3.83 ERA are career numbers comparable to Zito's 102-63 mark and 3.53 ERA, but instead focused on the market's recent turns in general.


"Mark Buehrle is a first-class person and a great teammate in the clubhouse, on the plane, on the bus or wherever."
-- White Sox GM Ken Williams

Basically, the White Sox wouldn't have World Series rings or a championship trophy without Buehrle's immense contributions. It's another point made clear by Williams to the throng of fans, and a point he understands might make Buehrle too expensive to keep after this final year of his contract.

Regardless of the direction these negotiations eventually go, Williams has vowed to go against his natural character the rest of the way. Williams' first instinct is to answer a direct question with a direct and honest response, instead of giving false hope where none might exist.

But where contract extensions involving valuable and respected commodities such as Buehrle, Jermaine Dye, Joe Crede or Tadahito Iguchi are concerned, a no comment might be the most prudent avenue to travel. The White Sox general manger does not want to paint his leaders in a bad light, even if they could be on their way out after 2007, another point he made to Buehrle and his family Saturday.

"If you ever find a comment from me that has said anything other than positive things about Mark Buehrle, please show it to me," said Williams, who talked about Saturday's informal meeting on his own accord to set the record straight. "It'll be the first. So when I pick up the paper and turn on the radio and I hear all this stuff, this isn't me and this isn't him.

"When I saw his parents first -- I didn't see him first -- I said, 'Let me tell you something first about your son and what a quality person he is. Now, let me tell you about me and what my position is.'

"I explained to them that I have no interest in making who I consider a quality, quality person, I don't have any interest in tarnishing what he has done for the organization or turning him into something to protect the organization. Sometimes, the venom that goes back and forth [on contract negotiations] gets out. I don't think that's right, because [the fans' perception] of the players can be distorted.

"Maybe something will happen," added Williams of future negotiations with Buehrle, pointing out he didn't believe at one point long-term deals could be reached with Jon Garland, Jose Contreras or Paul Konerko, and they all were accomplished. "I was just asked a question what I felt at that time, and what I feel at this time. If this has shown me anything, it's shown me I've got to change the way I conduct business."

Scott Merkin is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


#15071 From: "John Kivlin" <jkivlin@...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:30 pm
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From: Joan [mailto:joan710@...]

Akinori Otsuka, who was 32-for-36 in saves last year, isn't happy about
the Rangers handing his job to Eric Gagne, who worked only two innings
last year. If Gagne has a good spring, Texas may deal Otsuka.

-- Chicago Tribune

I read that and if I were Otsuka I'd be pissed.  Am I the only one that
thinks Gagne is the classic 'body broken by getting of roids' case?  His
velocity increased materially when he switched to the closing role.

#15070 From: Joan <joan710@...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:26 pm
Subject: Today's Truth & Rumors
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A trade in which the Rockies would send Todd Helton to the Red Sox hit another snag Sunday as the Rockies remained firm in their demand that one of the elite prospects in the Boston system be included. The Rockies gave the Red Sox a list that includes five prime prospects - centerfielder Jacob Ellsbury, and righthanded pitchers Daniel Bard, Manny Delcarmen, Craig Hansen and Clay Buchholz - and said one would have to be in the deal.
-- Rocky Mountain News
 
There were indications in Boston that the Todd Helton trade possibility is developing into another power battle between Larry Lucchino and Theo Epstein, who is reluctant to give up young players after trades in the past year in which he sent shortstop Hanley Ramirez and righthanded pitcher Anibal Sanchez in a package to Florida, and righthanded pitcher Cla Meredith to San Diego.
-- Rocky Mountain News
 
According to team sources, the Rockies are still pining to get Tampa Bay's Rocco Baldelli, and would love for those talks to heat up again.
-- Denver Post
 
As much as Major League Baseball would love to see Barry Bonds unemployed this year, there would be surprise in the central baseball office if the Giants actually cut ties with the ultra-controversial slugger. It's not going to be that easy for all of us to dispose of Bonds
-- Newsday
 
Presumably, the Red Sox wouldn't be against giving up Mike Lowell (possibly to San Diego for a reliever such as Scott Linebrink) and moving Kevin Youkilis to third. Or they might get Colorado to bite on Mike Lowell; the Rockies already are interested in Julian Tavarez. That way, the Sox could keep their young pitchers, but you have to think Colorado would need at least one young pitcher in a package deal for Todd Helton.
-- Boston Globe
 
Seattle's lack of recent success has been a disappointment for the Japanese star, but Mariners general manager Bill Bavasi doesn't believe Ichiro Suzuki is aggravated enough to consider his options elsewhere.
-- Chicago Tribune
 
Akinori Otsuka, who was 32-for-36 in saves last year, isn't happy about the Rangers handing his job to Eric Gagne, who worked only two innings last year. If Gagne has a good spring, Texas may deal Otsuka.
-- Chicago Tribune
 
Joe Torre may be entering his last season as Yankee manager. Unless his team wins again, and that means win more than the American League East. Alex Rodriguez may also be entering his last season as a Yankee.
-- New York Daily News
 
Atlanta rookie first baseman Scott Thorman probably won't wait like Adam LaRoche did for a chance to play every day. General manager John Schuerholz said the Braves think Thorman can thrive without a platoon arrangement.
-- Atlanta Journal-Constitution
 
Friday, Tampa Bay's Scott Kazmir stepped on the mound for his first bullpen session - limiting himself to about 80 percent velocity and no breaking balls - and was thrilled with the result.
-- St. Petersburg Times
 
White Sox GM Ken Williams said he had no trades or free-agent talks in progress and declined to elaborate on the status of Jermaine Dye, who can become a free agent in 2008.
-- Chicago Tribune
 
A's GM Billy Beane said that he will go to dinner with catcher Jason Kendall during the spring to discuss Kendall's wish to rework his contract. Kendall will receive $13 million this year, the last of his deal, with Pittsburgh on the hook for $5 million.
-- San Francisco Chronicle
 
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#15069 From: Joan <joan710@...>
Date: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:15 pm
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It couldn't be more apparent that the Yankees don't want Bernie Williams back in 2007. Only their respect for him has prevented team officials from coming right out and saying it. Williams, 38, is coming to grips with that reality, and he's not sure what to do about it.
-- Newsday
 
Yankees GM Brian Cashman has fielded calls from clubs wanting to know if Carl Pavano is available. To many in the Yankees universe, Pavano has become a tired act. Players strongly hinted that Pavano's injuries weren't as serious as they were portrayed. As hard as it is to believe, the Yankees are counting on Pavano to fill the No. 4 or 5 spot in the rotation.
-- New York Post
 
The Rockies maintain a genuine fondness for everything Todd Helton has done and respects all he has meant to baseball in Colorado. But this relationship between the 33-year-old first baseman and a ballclub operating on a parsimonious budget has become so awkward that it's a messy divorce waiting to happen.
-- Denver Post
 
The Pirates' ongoing pursuit of a righthanded starter appears to have produced another swing and miss, as Jeff Weaver and his agent, Scott Boras, were engaged in contract discussions with the Mariners late last night.
-- Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
 
The Mariners talked this week with free agent Mark Redman but ultimately focused on Jeff Weaver.
-- Seattle Times
 
A's manager Bob Geren said on Thursday that he is not sure that shortstop Bobby Crosby, who is recovering from a stress fracture in his back, will completely ready until the end of spring training.
-- San Francisco Chronicle
 
Morgan Ensberg, Adam Everett and Jason Lane really didn't want to go into arbitration hearings. Astros general manager Tim Purpura wasn't necessarily eager to go through the process either, so the club reached one-year deals with its final three arbitration-eligible players Thursday.
-- Houston Chronicle
 
Paul Lo Duca's reps brought up the topic of an extension during the winter meetings, but Mets brass wasn't ready to discuss it. The issue figures to be broached again by Lo Duca's side during spring training, though there's been speculation the Mets may wait to see how things play out this season with other catchers before addressing their situation behind the plate for '08 and beyond.
-- New York Daily News
 
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http://www.mlb-trade-rumors.com/

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#15068 From: "Mark Phillips" <markp8867@...>
Date: Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:44 am
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I hope you were able to sell your passes and thanks for posting that on the group.  I was at Soxfest today and it's really a lot lamer than it was before when it was at the Hyatt.  The Palmer House Hilton sucks!!  I still can't believe they moved Soxfest here from the Hyatt.  I am talking to the White Sox to move Soxfest 2008 to my place since it's as proportionally smaller to the Palmer House as the Palmer House was to the Hyatt.  Waiting in line before Soxfest starts really stinks too because many people have to wait outside for several hours now instead of inside like at the Hyatt.  
 
Anyway I was at the seminar today about the 2007 White Sox with Kenny Williams and Ozzie Guillen.  Kenny was asked about recent comments by Mark Buehrle about wanting an extension and not asking for Barry Zito type money and Kenny's prior comments about Mark not being a White Sox in 2008.  Kenny said he sat down today with Mark and his parents and talked about it to smooth things over.  Kenny said he regrets the media was used in this way and should have seen it coming.  Duh.  Kenny however never waivered on saying that Mark wouldn't be back.  Kenny said there are a lot of things to consider regarding salaries and how players fit and it's not an easy decision blah blah blah. 
 
I have to tell you Kenny is such a bore at these seminars, he puts the room to sleep.  Thankfully Ozzie was there who is of course is instant comic relief.  He made light of the fact the guy on stage doing sign language translation for the deaf could never understand (at the seminar Ozzie was in on Friday) what Ozzie was saying and would put his hands palms up in the air like he didn't know what Ozzie was saying lol.  That was hilarious and believe me a lot more so then my lame explanation.  Unfortunately I'm sure Mariotti will accuse Ozzie of deaf slurs in a future article once Jay follows the yellow brick road and gets his heart back.
 
Let's see other things here at Soxfest...they are having the family party tonight but I am not going.  So if anyone here did go then please tell us how it was.  As far a waiting in line goes to get into Soxfest, I would get there no later than 4am if you don't want to wait outside.  All the people who waited several hours outside today will of course be their early for Sunday so they don't have to go through that hell again.  There are no chairs to sit on either like at the Hyatt so bring your own or sit on the floor (or cold cement if you are outside).  They will also open Soxfest early since the line gets to a point where the line can't go any further (the block around the hotel is only so big lol).  Today they opened Soxfest at 8:30am, an hour and a half early.  Getting autographs isn't really that bad as long as you are in the right place at the right time for the wristbands which are given out on the level the players/coaches will be signing on.  So if you are going tomorrow, have fun and learn how to take the steps and escalators instead of the elevators to the several floors that Soxfest is on. 
 


 
On 1/26/07, Jamie McElligott <jme2323@...> wrote:

Hi all,
 
I know it is very last minute but it turns out that I have 4 extra passes for Saturday's Soxfest. If anyone is interested, let me know. I am not looking to make any money off of them. I paid $45 for each (after the service charges and such) and that is all I am asking for.
 
Thanks,
Jamie



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