Wish we had some of those solid hitters like the Indians on the White Sox. Not
HR
swingers... but hitters. If Indians can get some pitching, they're going to be
like the team
of old.

Back to our sad, sad White Sox. How bad is our farm system and scouts? We've
brought up
almost all the pitchers from AAA (except 1)... and they all sucked! Scouts and
KW need to
be launched!

It's obvious, this Sox team has lots of holes and needs next year. If JR is
smart, he will
bring in at least 1 top player (I prefer Beltran) to build team around and
another top
starting pitcher (Radke or Milton) to at least solidify 1-4, maybe Garland at
#5. BP help is
needed as well.

These moves will at least bring fans and excitement to ballpark. Otherwise, the
fans will
not go and spend their money for another mediocre team.

--- In youcanputitontheboard@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Phillips"
<markphillips@i...>
wrote:
> Well I doubt you will see me giving props to the Cleveland Indians ever
> again but after last night's 22-0 pounding of the Yankees, they really
> deserve it! The Yankees are choking like the '69 Cubs did. That is the
> single most pathetic performance by a sports team I have ever seen in my
> life. Esteban gave up 6 runs in the 9th too. He can't even pitch
> mopup!!! LOL The only thing that sucks is that Vazquez is on my
> fantasy baseball team but on the positive side so is Victor Martinez and
> Omar Vizquel.
>
> I'm surprised Joe Torre and their GM "Cashman" have a job today. After
> all, Billy Martin was fired for a lot less than this! Do you all agree
> with me now that Joe Torre is the most overrated manager in baseball?
> He's nothing more than a talking head that kisses Steinbrenner and the
> players butts. Speaking of overrated managers, the horrible Expos beat
> the Cubs 8-0 too. As a Sox fan, you gotta love it!!
>
> _____
>
>
> Indians Wax Yankees 22-0 in Record Fashion
>
> Tue Aug 31,10:23 PM ET
>
>
> By RONALD BLUM, AP Sports Writer
>
> NEW YORK - With the largest loss in their history, the New York Yankees
> (news
> <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/DailyNews/manual/*http://news.search.yahoo.com/s
> earch/news?fr=news-storylinks&p=%22New%20York%20Yankees%22&c=&n=20&yn=c&
> c=news&cs=nw> )' lead was cut to 3 1/2 games, their August slump
> beginning to resemble a free-fall. Omar Vizquel went 6-for-7 to tie the
> American League record for hits, and the Cleveland Indians (news
> <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/DailyNews/manual/*http://news.search.yahoo.com/s
> earch/news?fr=news-storylinks&p=%22Cleveland%20Indians%22&c=&n=20&yn=c&c
> =news&cs=nw> ) routed New York 22-0 Tuesday night.
>
>
> <http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040901/483/nyy1040901010
> 5>
> AP Photo
> <http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040901/483/nyy1040901010
> 5>
>
>
> Javier Vazquez was knocked out in the second inning, Cleveland took a
> 15-0 lead in the fifth and Jody Gerut and Victor Martinez hit three-run
> homers off Esteban Loaiza in the ninth. To make it worse for New York,
> owner George Steinbrenner was on hand to watch.
>
> New York had never lost by more than 18 runs, falling 24-6 at Cleveland
> on July 29, 1928, and 19-1 at home against Detroit on June 17, 1925.
> Previously, the Yankees' biggest shutout loss was 15-0 at home against
> the Chicago White Sox (news
> <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/DailyNews/manual/*http://news.search.yahoo.com/s
> earch/news?fr=news-storylinks&p=%22Chicago%20White%20Sox%22&c=&n=20&yn=c
> &c=news&cs=nw> ) on May 4, 1950.
>
> Jake Westbrook (12-6) improved to 6-1 in his last nine starts, allowing
> five hits in seven innings.
>
> Cleveland, which had season highs for runs and hits (22), set a team
> record for largest shutout win, topping its 19-0 rout of Boston on May
> 18, 1955.
>
> Vazquez, his faced bowed and wiping sweat off his face, walked off the
> field to boos after 1 1-3 innings, matching the shortest start of his
> career.
>
> Vazquez (13-8) gave up six runs, and the Indians then scored seven off
> Tanyon Sturtze and three against C.J. Nitkowski.
>
> Cleveland, which moved back over .500 at 67-66, scored three runs in
> each of the first three innings, then added six more in the fifth. Every
> Indians batter had scored by the fifth and the top eight batters in the
> order all had RBIs.
>
> Travis Hafner hit a three-run triple in the first inning, Coco Crisp
> homered and drove in three runs. Vizquel and Martinez had four RBIs
> each.
>
> Vizquel had a chance for a seventh hit, but flied out.
>
> It was from the start for the Yankees, who were booed early and often by
> the crowd of 51,777.
>
> New York's AL East lead, which stood at 10 1/2 games on the morning of
> Aug. 16, was cut again by Boston, which beat Anaheim 10-7 for its 19th
> win in 23 games.
>
> New York, which has lost four straight home games for the first time
> since May 22-26, 2003, is having a season beginning to resemble a mirror
> image of 1978, when the Yankees dropped to fourth place and trailed the
> Red Sox by 14 games after play on July 19, then rebounded to win the AL
> East in a one-game playoff.
>
> The largest lead held by a team that failed to finish first was 11 games
> by the 1995 California Angels, according to the Elias Sport Bureau.
>
> "We can't control Boston," Yankees manager Joe Torre said before the
> game. "If they continue to win every single game, they're going to
> deserve anything they can accomplish. The only time we can control what
> they do is when we play them."
>
> New York and Boston have a pair of three-game series left, at Yankee
> Stadium from Sept. 17-19 and at Fenway Park from Sept. 24-26.
>
> Second baseman Miguel Cairo made a key mistake in the first, when he
> picked up Matt Lawton's one-out grounder and threw to second, where he
> failed to get the out. Vazquez walked Martinez, gave up the triple to
> Hafner, and the rout was on.
>
> In the fifth, John Olerud picked up Hafner's bunt on the first-base
> line, giving him an infield hit. Hideki Matsui hit a leadoff double in
> the bottom half, then got throw out at second by Westbrook, who had
> fumbled Jorge Posada's comebacker. And in the seventh, Alex Rodriguez
> headed back to third base instead of running home on Cairo's two-out
> grounder.
>
> Vazquez has struggled in his first season with the Yankees, going 2-4 in
> eight starts following New York losses.
>
> Cleveland, which had lost 11 of 14 since moving within a game of AL
> Central-leading Minnesota on Aug. 14, began the night seven games behind
> the Twins.
>
> Notes:@ The previous AL player with six hits was Detroit's Carlos Pena
> on May 27 at Kansas City. Jorge Orta had been the last Cleveland player
> with six hits in a nine-inning game, on June 15, 1980, against
> Minnesota. ... Vazquez also lasted 1 1-3 innings on April 14, 1998, for
> Montreal against Milwaukee.