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Hi Deb,

I am definitely interested but I can't make it this Saturday evening.  Was
hoping the meeting could be delayed to next week 27/9.

Cheers,
Roger.

*****

> Hi all,
>
> Chris has expressed concern to me that he has had very few responses to
> his last email about the class association. This is an important issue,
> guys - it impacts on out insurance and our ability to hold the
> Nationals, and Chris has put a lot of work into drafting a Constitution
> for us. I note that the casual tone of his email may not have got the
> urgency across, but it would be great to get  bit more response on this.
> Also, since I'm doing the catering, is anyone coming to our place
> Saturday night? We have a possible celebrity guest who may be
> disappointed if no-one shows.
>
> Cheers
>
> Deb.
>
>
>
> Chris Thompson wrote:
>>
>> Morning all!
>>
>> DAC is racing on Saturdays and we're trying to get more Wallies - see
>> you there at 2 pm. Everyone welcome from beginners to experienced
>> sailors.
>>
>> Thanks to Tim, Lloydie and Roger for their dates; a national calendar
>> is just about ready.
>>
>> Up here in NSW, we need to get an association going. The YA insurance
>> that sailing club members hold does not cover third-party liability.
>> At the moment if anyone who is not insured with the Aust Windsurfing
>> Association runs over a kid in the shallows, the race organisers
>> could be liable, and I've had enough of having my house on the line
>> even though the chances of anything going wrong are minute. Without
>> an association we also have no cash and no structure. With an
>> association, if we pay $150 to a state windsurfing association we can
>> become an affiliated class and then everyone can get cheap public
>> liability insurance through the Australian Windsurfing Association
>> scheme ($18 per person p.a).
>>
>> These days, it's not worth having an incorporated body and the AWA
>> does not require one. I think we if we do it right, we can also use
>> their corporate identity as a bit of a hidey-hole if some legal
>> problems such as abrogation arise, too. In the future we can also use
>> YA insurance for the class officers, too, but at the moment they can
>> be covered by the AWA's insurance.
>>
>> So I've prepared a constitution (attached, with comments in italics).
>> It doesn't seem sensible to restrict to NSW and the AWA president
>> wants it to be national, so it's out there for comments from other
>> states. An association could be a big help in the smaller states like
>> SA, too. The structure I've designed needs work but it's designed to
>> make sure that it's a democratic class.
>>
>> The plan at the moment is to have a meeting, possibly this Saturday
>> afternoon, to form the association. It may be a bit later but it
>> would be good to get it up and running before the season gets too old
>> and like the calendar, it was something I've not had time to get
>> around to earlier, because of issues like a new job.
>>
>> As you'll see, cost for people who just want to sail in a local fleet
>> or do one regatta is minimal - $20 to make sure that you are covered
>> if your rig blows away and hits someone, etc.
>>
>> So.....please provide any feedback and indicate your opinion. Please
>> put yourself forward if you are interested in a position; we'll hold
>> meetings with Skype or something.
>>
>> For those in NSW, is a meeting at our place in Leichhardt on Saturday
>> evening okay? Any preferred options?
>>
>>
>>
>
>

#307

From: stephen barton <bartonstephen1@...>
Date: Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:50 pm
Subject: RE: Urgent!!! CLASS ASSOCIATION MEETING

bartonstephen1@...

There may be a couple of reasons for the lack of response, deb and chris.

1) it has come up very quickly to digest this info and the need for immediate urgent action may not have been conveyed clearly nor was it obvious that the meeting was this saturday

2) despite the obvious hard work put in by chris, the desire to react by some people may be stymied by them needing more than a few days advance notice to come to a meeting on a saturday night

3) chris uses big words such as "abrogation" and we're still looking them up in the dictionary making our response slow. We windsurf, simple craft for simple people, use simple words.

who do you want at the meeting? what outcome do you need ? what is the agenda. Maybe the lack of response was because what you put forward about the need for competitors to be fully insured was a no-brainer. Can't those fugginkahns at the YA use some of the $50 pa they get from us with virtually zero return to some use? Such as 3rd party insurance.

To: WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com
From: deborah.apthorp@...
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:03:15 +1000
Subject: [WindsurferOD] Urgent!!! CLASS ASSOCIATION MEETING

Hi all,

Chris has expressed concern to me that he has had very few responses to his last email about the class association. This is an important issue, guys - it impacts on out insurance and our ability to hold the Nationals, and Chris has put a lot of work into drafting a Constitution for us. I note that the casual tone of his email may not have got the urgency across, but it would be great to get bit more response on this. Also, since I'm doing the catering, is anyone coming to our place Saturday night? We have a possible celebrity guest who may be disappointed if no-one shows.

Cheers

Deb.

Chris Thompson wrote:

Morning all!

DAC is racing on Saturdays and we're trying to get more Wallies - see
you there at 2 pm. Everyone welcome from beginners to experienced
sailors.

Thanks to Tim, Lloydie and Roger for their dates; a national calendar
is just about ready.

Up here in NSW, we need to get an association going. The YA insurance
that sailing club members hold does not cover third-party liability.
At the moment if anyone who is not insured with the Aust Windsurfing
Association runs over a kid in the shallows, the race organisers
could be liable, and I've had enough of having my house on the line
even though the chances of anything going wrong are minute. Without
an association we also have no cash and no structure. With an
association, if we pay $150 to a state windsurfing association we can
become an affiliated class and then everyone can get cheap public
liability insurance through the Australian Windsurfing Association
scheme ($18 per person p.a).

These days, it's not worth having an incorporated body and the AWA
does not require one. I think we if we do it right, we can also use
their corporate identity as a bit of a hidey-hole if some legal
problems such as abrogation arise, too. In the future we can also use
YA insurance for the class officers, too, but at the moment they can
be covered by the AWA's insurance.

So I've prepared a constitution (attached, with comments in italics).
It doesn't seem sensible to restrict to NSW and the AWA president
wants it to be national, so it's out there for comments from other
states. An association could be a big help in the smaller states like
SA, too. The structure I've designed needs work but it's designed to
make sure that it's a democratic class.

The plan at the moment is to have a meeting, possibly this Saturday
afternoon, to form the association. It may be a bit later but it
would be good to get it up and running before the season gets too old
and like the calendar, it was something I've not had time to get
around to earlier, because of issues like a new job.

As you'll see, cost for people who just want to sail in a local fleet
or do one regatta is minimal - $20 to make sure that you are covered
if your rig blows away and hits someone, etc.

So.....please provide any feedback and indicate your opinion. Please
put yourself forward if you are interested in a position; we'll hold
meetings with Skype or something.

For those in NSW, is a meeting at our place in Leichhardt on Saturday
evening okay? Any preferred options?

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#306

From: Deborah Apthorp <deborah.apthorp@...>
Date: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:03 pm
Subject: Urgent!!! CLASS ASSOCIATION MEETING

wallychick331

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Morning all!

DAC is racing on Saturdays and we're trying to get more Wallies - see
you there at 2 pm. Everyone welcome from beginners to experienced
sailors.

Thanks to Tim, Lloydie and Roger for their dates; a national calendar
is just about ready.

Up here in NSW, we need to get an association going. The YA insurance
that sailing club members hold does not cover third-party liability.
At the moment if anyone who is not insured with the Aust Windsurfing
Association runs over a kid in the shallows, the race organisers
could be liable, and I've had enough of having my house on the line
even though the chances of anything going wrong are minute. Without
an association we also have no cash and no structure. With an
association, if we pay $150 to a state windsurfing association we can
become an affiliated class and then everyone can get cheap public
liability insurance through the Australian Windsurfing Association
scheme ($18 per person p.a).

These days, it's not worth having an incorporated body and the AWA
does not require one. I think we if we do it right, we can also use
their corporate identity as a bit of a hidey-hole if some legal
problems such as abrogation arise, too. In the future we can also use
YA insurance for the class officers, too, but at the moment they can
be covered by the AWA's insurance.

So I've prepared a constitution (attached, with comments in italics).
It doesn't seem sensible to restrict to NSW and the AWA president
wants it to be national, so it's out there for comments from other
states. An association could be a big help in the smaller states like
SA, too. The structure I've designed needs work but it's designed to
make sure that it's a democratic class.

The plan at the moment is to have a meeting, possibly this Saturday
afternoon, to form the association. It may be a bit later but it
would be good to get it up and running before the season gets too old
and like the calendar, it was something I've not had time to get
around to earlier, because of issues like a new job.

As you'll see, cost for people who just want to sail in a local fleet
or do one regatta is minimal - $20 to make sure that you are covered
if your rig blows away and hits someone, etc.

So.....please provide any feedback and indicate your opinion. Please
put yourself forward if you are interested in a position; we'll hold
meetings with Skype or something.

For those in NSW, is a meeting at our place in Leichhardt on Saturday
evening okay? Any preferred options?

#305

From: roger.crawford@...
Date: Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:54 am
Subject: Re: DAC RACING AND CLASS ASSOCIATION MEETING

rogerc141

Offline

Hi Chris,

All sounds great and I'm keen to be involved.

I can't make it this Saturday evening though.  Could you possibly delay
the meeting to Sat 27th?  I'm free then and could join you for racing at
Dobroyd followed by the meeting.

Cheers,
Roger.

*****

> Morning all!
>
> DAC is racing on Saturdays and we're trying to get more Wallies - see
> you there at 2 pm. Everyone welcome from beginners to experienced
> sailors.
>
> Thanks to Tim, Lloydie and Roger for their dates; a national calendar
> is just about ready.
>
> Up here in NSW, we need to get an association going. The YA insurance
> that sailing club members hold does not cover third-party liability.
> At the moment if anyone who is not insured with the Aust Windsurfing
> Association runs over a kid in the shallows, the race organisers
> could be liable, and I've had enough of having my house on the line
> even though the chances of anything going wrong are minute. Without
> an association we also have no cash and no structure. With an
> association, if we pay $150 to a state windsurfing association we can
> become an affiliated class and then everyone can get cheap public
> liability insurance through the Australian Windsurfing Association
> scheme ($18 per person p.a).
>
> These days, it's not worth having an incorporated body and the AWA
> does not require one. I think we if we do it right, we can also use
> their corporate identity as a bit of a hidey-hole if some legal
> problems such as abrogation arise, too. In the future we can also use
> YA insurance for the class officers, too, but at the moment they can
> be covered by the AWA's insurance.
>
> So I've prepared a constitution (attached, with comments in italics).
> It doesn't seem sensible to restrict to NSW and the AWA president
> wants it to be national, so it's out there for comments from other
> states. An association could be a big help in the smaller states like
> SA, too. The structure I've designed needs work but it's designed to
> make sure that it's a democratic class.
>
> The plan at the moment is to have a meeting, possibly this Saturday
> afternoon, to form the association. It may be a bit later but it
> would be good to get it up and running before the season gets too old
> and like the calendar, it was something I've not had time to get
> around to earlier, because of issues like a new job.
>
> As you'll see, cost for people who just want to sail in a local fleet
> or do one regatta is minimal - $20 to make sure that you are covered
> if your rig blows away and hits someone, etc.
>
> So.....please provide any feedback and indicate your opinion. Please
> put yourself forward if you are interested in a position; we'll hold
> meetings with Skype or something.
>
> For those in NSW, is a meeting at our place in Leichhardt on Saturday
> evening okay? Any preferred options?
>
>
>
>
>
>

#304

From: Chris Thompson <cthom249@...>
Date: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:43 pm
Subject: DAC RACING AND CLASS ASSOCIATION MEETING

ct249

Offline

Morning all!

DAC is racing on Saturdays and we're trying to get more Wallies - see
you there at 2 pm. Everyone welcome from beginners to experienced
sailors.

Thanks to Tim, Lloydie and Roger for their dates; a national calendar
is just about ready.

Up here in NSW, we need to get an association going. The YA insurance
that sailing club members hold does not cover third-party liability.
At the moment if anyone who is not insured with the Aust Windsurfing
Association runs over a kid in the shallows, the race organisers
could be liable, and I've had enough of having my house on the line
even though the chances of anything going wrong are minute. Without
an association we also have no cash and no structure. With an
association, if we pay $150 to a state windsurfing association we can
become an affiliated class and then everyone can get cheap public
liability insurance through the Australian Windsurfing Association
scheme ($18 per person p.a).

These days, it's not worth having an incorporated body and the AWA
does not require one. I think we if we do it right, we can also use
their corporate identity as a bit of a hidey-hole if some legal
problems such as abrogation arise, too. In the future we can also use
YA insurance for the class officers, too, but at the moment they can
be covered by the AWA's insurance.

So I've prepared a constitution (attached, with comments in italics).
It doesn't seem sensible to restrict to NSW and the AWA president
wants it to be national, so it's out there for comments from other
states. An association could be a big help in the smaller states like
SA, too. The structure I've designed needs work but it's designed to
make sure that it's a democratic class.

The plan at the moment is to have a meeting, possibly this Saturday
afternoon, to form the association. It may be a bit later but it
would be good to get it up and running before the season gets too old
and like the calendar, it was something I've not had time to get
around to earlier, because of issues like a new job.

As you'll see, cost for people who just want to sail in a local fleet
or do one regatta is minimal - $20 to make sure that you are covered
if your rig blows away and hits someone, etc.

So.....please provide any feedback and indicate your opinion. Please
put yourself forward if you are interested in a position; we'll hold
meetings with Skype or something.

For those in NSW, is a meeting at our place in Leichhardt on Saturday
evening okay? Any preferred options?

#303

From: "Mark Lloyd" <gunnamatta@...>
Date: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:02 am
Subject: Re: DAC Summer Series and Nationals

lloydie1029

Offline

Hi Chris,

Re the pumping: I agree with most of the replies to the query. Keep the present rules as they are.

Re. the calandar: Yachting Victoria has asked Parkdale Y.C to again host the Vic. Sailboard Classic. the dates will be 15th - 16th Nov. 2008.

The NOR is just about there. It looks as though we will run as many races (windward - leward) as possible for the Wally Class over the two days and cater for any and all sailboards on a seperate course (beam reaches) on Sat. Arvo only.

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Regards,

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----- Original Message -----

From: Chris Thompson

To: WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:25 PM

Subject: Re: [WindsurferOD] DAC Summer Series and Nationals

On 11/09/2008, at 1:04 PM, stephen barton wrote:

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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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To: WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com
From: roger.crawford@exemail.com.au
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 22:07:13 +1000
Subject: Re: [WindsurferOD] DAC Summer Series and Nationals

Hi Chris,

I'd be interested in the caravan hire you mentioned. If you could provide
some details that would be great.

I like the idea of the sit-down meal. I think it would be best to have it
on the Saturday or Sunday and then just a quick presentation on the Monday
as some people will probably want to head off then. Maybe we could just
do the informal pizzas thing on the Monday after the presentation for
those that don't want to head off in a hurry.

With the pumping I think we should stick to the current system of no
pumping upwind and unlimited pumping downwind. I think it would be good
to have no pumping at the start as with the 30 second pumping rule the
less agressive sailors just get hammered by bad air, and just get left way
behind after 30 seconds. No pumping at the start would make things more
even and more enjoyable for those less agressive sailors.

The windsurfer class association sounds like a great idea. ! I'd be keen to
be involved.

I also think it could be a good idea to put together a calendar of all
Windsurfer One-Design racing planned for the season at all the different
locations.

Cheers,
Roger.

*****

> Hi all.
>
> It's that time of the year again.
>
> This summer, Dobroyd is having a One Design series, with racing each
> Saturday from 2
> pm. We should get a decent little fleet, of a wide range of experience.
> We'll be
> concentrating on juniors, coaching and laid-back sailing, but we'll also
> have our club
> championship on a different day to Narrabeen fleet and the Raceboards, in
> the hope of
> attracting some visitors for some top class racing.
>
> Deb and I may miss the first race (this weekend) due to jetlag (her) and
> flu (me) but we'd
> love to see more people down there from the first official race, the
> weekend af! ter this one.
>
>
> Also, about the Nationals.
>
> If you're planning to go and need a cheap place to crash, drop me a line
> and I'll chase up
> the details of the cheaper caravan hire from private owners at Salamander
> Bay Village. The
> alternatives are more expensive, and supply is limited. I know it's early,
> but it could be
> good to start planning soon.
>
> We've already got a very nice waterfront place, but many of them have
> restrictive hire
> conditions (ie high rents and a minimum of a week's booking) until the
> Saturday night of
> the nationals, when prices drop dramatically and houses are available for
> just a few days.
>
>
> Secondly;
> we were planning to have a meal and function at the Salamander Shores
> motel, just behind
> the club. I went up there and found that the meals and drinks were a cut
> (or two) above
> the norm; see
>
>?http://www.salamander-shores.com/index.html
>
> Would people like to do the function? Meal and room hire will cost $40 per
> person, which
> will be absorbed into the race fee of around $180. The alternative is to
> just get some
> pizzas into the sailing club and just wander up the road to the
> Salamander's bar.
>
> If people want to have the function, what is the best day? At the Batemans
> Bay nationals
> we had the sit-down meal during the presentation, but many people left
> early. Port
> Stephens is a bit closer, but we don't want to charge for meals people
> won't eat.
>
> Would people like to have the sit-down function on the Sunday night and
> then a quick
> informal presentation at the sailing club, or what?
>
> Please give me some feedback asap so I can convert a provisional booki! ng
> at the hotel
> into a firm one, or drop the idea altogether.
>
>
> Finally - the pumping question. Some people would like to see more
> restrictions. A few
> years ago, Bill put up a questionnaire offering five choices;
>
> 1 - No pumping at all (like the Kona One now does).
>
> 2- Use the normal rules for pumping; ie one pump per wave or gust.
>
> 3- No pumping in light winds, unrestricted pumping in heavy air.
>
> 4- Current restrictions
>
> 5 - No restrictions.
>
> Please give me some feedback if you think we should consider changes. Last
> time the
> feeling was overwhelmingly for the current system. One thing I would say
> is that anyone
> who wants more restrictive restrictions should know that they may be put
> onto the protest
> committee to rule on them!
>
>
> Finally; and this time it's the real "finally"...
>
> I've spoken to Windsurfing NSW about set! ting up a NSW Windsurfer Class
> Association as an
> unincorporated body. These days, incorporation isn't worth the hassle.
>
> The idea is that there would be a minimal fee ($20-25) that people who
> were not
> members of other NSW Windsurfing clubs will HAVE to pay before being
> allowed to do a
> regatta. This is vital for insurance purposes, and we have been getting in
> trouble for
> letting people get away without being members.
>
> If anyone is keen to assist setting it up, please drop me a line.
>
> Thanks all
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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#302

From: Chris Thompson <cthom249@...>
Date: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:25 am
Subject: Re: DAC Summer Series and Nationals

ct249

Offline

On 11/09/2008, at 1:04 PM, stephen barton wrote:

Hey yeah, nude wally sailors calendar!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

We're already working on it, Steve.

Here's the nude pic of one prominent Wally sailor;

To: WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com
From: roger.crawford@exemail.com.au
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 22:07:13 +1000
Subject: Re: [WindsurferOD] DAC Summer Series and Nationals

Hi Chris,

I'd be interested in the caravan hire you mentioned. If you could provide
some details that would be great.

I like the idea of the sit-down meal. I think it would be best to have it
on the Saturday or Sunday and then just a quick presentation on the Monday
as some people will probably want to head off then. Maybe we could just
do the informal pizzas thing on the Monday after the presentation for
those that don't want to head off in a hurry.

With the pumping I think we should stick to the current system of no
pumping upwind and unlimited pumping downwind. I think it would be good
to have no pumping at the start as with the 30 second pumping rule the
less agressive sailors just get hammered by bad air, and just get left way
behind after 30 seconds. No pumping at the start would make things more
even and more enjoyable for those less agressive sailors.

The windsurfer class association sounds like a great idea. ! I'd be keen to
be involved.

I also think it could be a good idea to put together a calendar of all
Windsurfer One-Design racing planned for the season at all the different
locations.

Cheers,
Roger.

*****

> Hi all.
>
> It's that time of the year again.
>
> This summer, Dobroyd is having a One Design series, with racing each
> Saturday from 2
> pm. We should get a decent little fleet, of a wide range of experience.
> We'll be
> concentrating on juniors, coaching and laid-back sailing, but we'll also
> have our club
> championship on a different day to Narrabeen fleet and the Raceboards, in
> the hope of
> attracting some visitors for some top class racing.
>
> Deb and I may miss the first race (this weekend) due to jetlag (her) and
> flu (me) but we'd
> love to see more people down there from the first official race, the
> weekend af! ter this one.
>
>
> Also, about the Nationals.
>
> If you're planning to go and need a cheap place to crash, drop me a line
> and I'll chase up
> the details of the cheaper caravan hire from private owners at Salamander
> Bay Village. The
> alternatives are more expensive, and supply is limited. I know it's early,
> but it could be
> good to start planning soon.
>
> We've already got a very nice waterfront place, but many of them have
> restrictive hire
> conditions (ie high rents and a minimum of a week's booking) until the
> Saturday night of
> the nationals, when prices drop dramatically and houses are available for
> just a few days.
>
>
> Secondly;
> we were planning to have a meal and function at the Salamander Shores
> motel, just behind
> the club. I went up there and found that the meals and drinks were a cut
> (or two) above
> the norm; see
>
>�http://www.salamander-shores.com/index.html
>
> Would people like to do the function? Meal and room hire will cost $40 per
> person, which
> will be absorbed into the race fee of around $180. The alternative is to
> just get some
> pizzas into the sailing club and just wander up the road to the
> Salamander's bar.
>
> If people want to have the function, what is the best day? At the Batemans
> Bay nationals
> we had the sit-down meal during the presentation, but many people left
> early. Port
> Stephens is a bit closer, but we don't want to charge for meals people
> won't eat.
>
> Would people like to have the sit-down function on the Sunday night and
> then a quick
> informal presentation at the sailing club, or what?
>
> Please give me some feedback asap so I can convert a provisional booki! ng
> at the hotel
> into a firm one, or drop the idea altogether.
>
>
> Finally - the pumping question. Some people would like to see more
> restrictions. A few
> years ago, Bill put up a questionnaire offering five choices;
>
> 1 - No pumping at all (like the Kona One now does).
>
> 2- Use the normal rules for pumping; ie one pump per wave or gust.
>
> 3- No pumping in light winds, unrestricted pumping in heavy air.
>
> 4- Current restrictions
>
> 5 - No restrictions.
>
> Please give me some feedback if you think we should consider changes. Last
> time the
> feeling was overwhelmingly for the current system. One thing I would say
> is that anyone
> who wants more restrictive restrictions should know that they may be put
> onto the protest
> committee to rule on them!
>
>
> Finally; and this time it's the real "finally"...
>
> I've spoken to Windsurfing NSW about set! ting up a NSW Windsurfer Class
> Association as an
> unincorporated body. These days, incorporation isn't worth the hassle.
>
> The idea is that there would be a minimal fee ($20-25) that people who
> were not
> members of other NSW Windsurfing clubs will HAVE to pay before being
> allowed to do a
> regatta. This is vital for insurance purposes, and we have been getting in
> trouble for
> letting people get away without being members.
>
> If anyone is keen to assist setting it up, please drop me a line.
>
> Thanks all
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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#301

From: stephen barton <bartonstephen1@...>
Date: Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:04 am
Subject: RE: DAC Summer Series and Nationals

bartonstephen1@...

Hey yeah, nude wally sailors calendar!

To: WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com
From: roger.crawford@...
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 22:07:13 +1000
Subject: Re: [WindsurferOD] DAC Summer Series and Nationals

Hi Chris,

I'd be interested in the caravan hire you mentioned. If you could provide
some details that would be great.

I like the idea of the sit-down meal. I think it would be best to have it
on the Saturday or Sunday and then just a quick presentation on the Monday
as some people will probably want to head off then. Maybe we could just
do the informal pizzas thing on the Monday after the presentation for
those that don't want to head off in a hurry.

With the pumping I think we should stick to the current system of no
pumping upwind and unlimited pumping downwind. I think it would be good
to have no pumping at the start as with the 30 second pumping rule the
less agressive sailors just get hammered by bad air, and just get left way
behind after 30 seconds. No pumping at the start would make things more
even and more enjoyable for those less agressive sailors.

The windsurfer class association sounds like a great idea. I'd be keen to
be involved.

I also think it could be a good idea to put together a calendar of all
Windsurfer One-Design racing planned for the season at all the different
locations.

Cheers,
Roger.

*****

> Hi all.
>
> It's that time of the year again.
>
> This summer, Dobroyd is having a One Design series, with racing each
> Saturday from 2
> pm. We should get a decent little fleet, of a wide range of experience.
> We'll be
> concentrating on juniors, coaching and laid-back sailing, but we'll also
> have our club
> championship on a different day to Narrabeen fleet and the Raceboards, in
> the hope of
> attracting some visitors for some top class racing.
>
> Deb and I may miss the first race (this weekend) due to jetlag (her) and
> flu (me) but we'd
> love to see more people down there from the first official race, the
> weekend after this one.
>
>
> Also, about the Nationals.
>
> If you're planning to go and need a cheap place to crash, drop me a line
> and I'll chase up
> the details of the cheaper caravan hire from private owners at Salamander
> Bay Village. The
> alternatives are more expensive, and supply is limited. I know it's early,
> but it could be
> good to start planning soon.
>
> We've already got a very nice waterfront place, but many of them have
> restrictive hire
> conditions (ie high rents and a minimum of a week's booking) until the
> Saturday night of
> the nationals, when prices drop dramatically and houses are available for
> just a few days.
>
>
> Secondly;
> we were planning to have a meal and function at the Salamander Shores
> motel, just behind
> the club. I went up there and found that the meals and drinks were a cut
> (or two) above
> the norm; see
>
> http://www.salamander-shores.com/index.html
>
> Would people like to do the function? Meal and room hire will cost $40 per
> person, which
> will be absorbed into the race fee of around $180. The alternative is to
> just get some
> pizzas into the sailing club and just wander up the road to the
> Salamander's bar.
>
> If people want to have the function, what is the best day? At the Batemans
> Bay nationals
> we had the sit-down meal during the presentation, but many people left
> early. Port
> Stephens is a bit closer, but we don't want to charge for meals people
> won't eat.
>
> Would people like to have the sit-down function on the Sunday night and
> then a quick
> informal presentation at the sailing club, or what?
>
> Please give me some feedback asap so I can convert a provisional booking
> at the hotel
> into a firm one, or drop the idea altogether.
>
>
> Finally - the pumping question. Some people would like to see more
> restrictions. A few
> years ago, Bill put up a questionnaire offering five choices;
>
> 1 - No pumping at all (like the Kona One now does).
>
> 2- Use the normal rules for pumping; ie one pump per wave or gust.
>
> 3- No pumping in light winds, unrestricted pumping in heavy air.
>
> 4- Current restrictions
>
> 5 - No restrictions.
>
> Please give me some feedback if you think we should consider changes. Last
> time the
> feeling was overwhelmingly for the current system. One thing I would say
> is that anyone
> who wants more restrictive restrictions should know that they may be put
> onto the protest
> committee to rule on them!
>
>
> Finally; and this time it's the real "finally"...
>
> I've spoken to Windsurfing NSW about setting up a NSW Windsurfer Class
> Association as an
> unincorporated body. These days, incorporation isn't worth the hassle.
>
> The idea is that there would be a minimal fee ($20-25) that people who
> were not
> members of other NSW Windsurfing clubs will HAVE to pay before being
> allowed to do a
> regatta. This is vital for insurance purposes, and we have been getting in
> trouble for
> letting people get away without being members.
>
> If anyone is keen to assist setting it up, please drop me a line.
>
> Thanks all
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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#300

From: Chris Thompson <cthom249@...>
Date: Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:01 am
Subject: Re: DAC Summer Series and Nationals

ct249

Offline

Hi Rog.

Thanks for the input. Here's the caravan park info.�

Could you give me some info about the $$$$ they are talking about??�

Good point about the Calendar - Tim from Tas just sent me their details and I'll include it in the calendar I've just drawn up.

Chris

On 09/09/2008, at 10:07 PM, roger.crawford@... wrote:

Hi Chris,

I'd be interested in the caravan hire you mentioned. If you could provide
some details that would be great.

I like the idea of the sit-down meal. I think it would be best to have it
on the Saturday or Sunday and then just a quick presentation on the Monday
as some people will probably want to head off then. Maybe we could just
do the informal pizzas thing on the Monday after the presentation for
those that don't want to head off in a hurry.

With the pumping I think we should stick to the current system of no
pumping upwind and unlimited pumping downwind. I think it would be good
to have no pumping at the start as with the 30 second pumping rule the
less agressive sailors just get hammered by bad air, and just get left way
behind after 30 seconds. No pumping at the start would make things more
even and more enjoyable for those less agressive sailors.

The windsurfer class association sounds like a great idea. I'd be keen to
be involved.

I also think it could be a good idea to put together a calendar of all
Windsurfer One-Design racing planned for the season at all the different
locations.

Cheers,
Roger.

*****

> Hi all.
>
> It's that time of the year again.
>
> This summer, Dobroyd is having a One Design series, with racing each
> Saturday from 2
> pm. We should get a decent little fleet, of a wide range of experience.
> We'll be
> concentrating on juniors, coaching and laid-back sailing, but we'll also
> have our club
> championship on a different day to Narrabeen fleet and the Raceboards, in
> the hope of
> attracting some visitors for some top class racing.
>
> Deb and I may miss the first race (this weekend) due to jetlag (her) and
> flu (me) but we'd
> love to see more people down there from the first official race, the
> weekend after this one.
>
>
> Also, about the Nationals.
>
> If you're planning to go and need a cheap place to crash, drop me a line
> and I'll chase up
> the details of the cheaper caravan hire from private owners at Salamander
> Bay Village. The
> alternatives are more expensive, and supply is limited. I know it's early,
> but it could be
> good to start planning soon.
>
> We've already got a very nice waterfront place, but many of them have
> restrictive hire
> conditions (ie high rents and a minimum of a week's booking) until the
> Saturday night of
> the nationals, when prices drop dramatically and houses are available for
> just a few days.
>
>
> Secondly;
> we were planning to have a meal and function at the Salamander Shores
> motel, just behind
> the club. I went up there and found that the meals and drinks were a cut
> (or two) above
> the norm; see
>
>�http://www.salamander-shores.com/index.html
>
> Would people like to do the function? Meal and room hire will cost $40 per
> person, which
> will be absorbed into the race fee of around $180. The alternative is to
> just get some
> pizzas into the sailing club and just wander up the road to the
> Salamander's bar.
>
> If people want to have the function, what is the best day? At the Batemans
> Bay nationals
> we had the sit-down meal during the presentation, but many people left
> early. Port
> Stephens is a bit closer, but we don't want to charge for meals people
> won't eat.
>
> Would people like to have the sit-down function on the Sunday night and
> then a quick
> informal presentation at the sailing club, or what?
>
> Please give me some feedback asap so I can convert a provisional booking
> at the hotel
> into a firm one, or drop the idea altogether.
>
>
> Finally - the pumping question. Some people would like to see more
> restrictions. A few
> years ago, Bill put up a questionnaire offering five choices;
>
> 1 - No pumping at all (like the Kona One now does).
>
> 2- Use the normal rules for pumping; ie one pump per wave or gust.
>
> 3- No pumping in light winds, unrestricted pumping in heavy air.
>
> 4- Current restrictions
>
> 5 - No restrictions.
>
> Please give me some feedback if you think we should consider changes. Last
> time the
> feeling was overwhelmingly for the current system. One thing I would say
> is that anyone
> who wants more restrictive restrictions should know that they may be put
> onto the protest
> committee to rule on them!
>
>
> Finally; and this time it's the real "finally"...
>
> I've spoken to Windsurfing NSW about setting up a NSW Windsurfer Class
> Association as an
> unincorporated body. These days, incorporation isn't worth the hassle.
>
> The idea is that there would be a minimal fee ($20-25) that people who
> were not
> members of other NSW Windsurfing clubs will HAVE to pay before being
> allowed to do a
> regatta. This is vital for insurance purposes, and we have been getting in
> trouble for
> letting people get away without being members.
>
> If anyone is keen to assist setting it up, please drop me a line.
>
> Thanks all
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

#299

From: "Tim Jones" <tim@...>
Date: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:08 am
Subject: RE: DAC Summer Series and Nationals

taze_tim

Offline

Hey Chris,

Great work on coordinating the nationals. Tassie has gone a little quiet recently however we have had three fairly consistent sailors out once a month over winter.

In terms of events, Opening day of the local Dinghy Group sailing program is Sat 11^th October.

Our state champs will be held in conjunction with the Royal Hobart Regatta and the Tasmanian Yardstick Championships which is Sunday 8^th February. Apart from that we will be conducting our Friday night twilight series from Sandy Bay Sailing Club starting next month. Dates to be confirmed.

We may get some Sat arvo sailing happening if we get the numbers but I am not sure if the new boards have arrived yet. I think there are two in the pipeline...

Cheers

Tim

From: WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of roger.crawford@...
Sent: Tuesday, 9 September 2008 10:07 PM
To: WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WindsurferOD] DAC Summer Series and Nationals

#298

From: roger.crawford@...
Date: Tue Sep 9, 2008 12:07 pm
Subject: Re: DAC Summer Series and Nationals

rogerc141

Offline

Hi Chris,

I'd be interested in the caravan hire you mentioned.  If you could provide
some details that would be great.

I like the idea of the sit-down meal.  I think it would be best to have it
on the Saturday or Sunday and then just a quick presentation on the Monday
as some people will probably want to head off then.  Maybe we could just
do the informal pizzas thing on the Monday after the presentation for
those that don't want to head off in a hurry.

With the pumping I think we should stick to the current system of no
pumping upwind and unlimited pumping downwind.  I think it would be good
to have no pumping at the start as with the 30 second pumping rule the
less agressive sailors just get hammered by bad air, and just get left way
behind after 30 seconds.  No pumping at the start would make things more
even and more enjoyable for those less agressive sailors.

The windsurfer class association sounds like a great idea.  I'd be keen to
be involved.

I also think it could be a good idea to put together a calendar of all
Windsurfer One-Design racing planned for the season at all the different
locations.

Cheers,
Roger.

*****

> Hi all.
>
> It's that time of the year again.
>
> This summer, Dobroyd is having a One Design series, with racing each
> Saturday from 2
> pm. We should get a decent little fleet, of a wide range of experience.
> We'll be
> concentrating on juniors, coaching and laid-back sailing, but we'll also
> have our club
> championship on a different day to Narrabeen fleet and the Raceboards, in
> the hope of
> attracting some visitors for some top class racing.
>
> Deb and I may miss the first race (this weekend) due to jetlag (her) and
> flu (me) but we'd
> love to see more people down there from the first official race, the
> weekend after this one.
>
>
> Also, about the Nationals.
>
> If you're planning to go and need a cheap place to crash, drop me a line
> and I'll chase up
> the details of the cheaper caravan hire from private owners at Salamander
> Bay Village. The
> alternatives are more expensive, and supply is limited. I know it's early,
> but it could be
> good to start planning soon.
>
> We've already got a very nice waterfront place, but many of them have
> restrictive hire
> conditions (ie high rents and a minimum of a week's booking) until the
> Saturday night of
> the nationals, when prices drop dramatically and houses are available for
> just a few days.
>
>
> Secondly;
> we were planning to have a meal and function at the Salamander Shores
> motel, just behind
> the club. I went up there and found that the meals and drinks were a cut
> (or two) above
> the norm; see
>
> http://www.salamander-shores.com/index.html
>
> Would people like to do the function? Meal and room hire will cost $40 per
> person, which
> will be absorbed into the race fee of around $180. The alternative is to
> just get some
> pizzas into the sailing club and just wander up the road to the
> Salamander's bar.
>
> If people want to have the function, what is the best day? At the Batemans
> Bay nationals
> we had the sit-down meal during the presentation, but many people left
> early. Port
> Stephens is a bit closer, but we don't want to charge for meals people
> won't eat.
>
> Would people like to have the sit-down function on the Sunday night and
> then a quick
> informal presentation at the sailing club, or what?
>
> Please give me some feedback asap so I can convert a provisional booking
> at the hotel
> into a firm one, or drop the idea altogether.
>
>
> Finally - the pumping question. Some people would like to see more
> restrictions. A few
> years ago, Bill put up a questionnaire offering five choices;
>
> 1 - No pumping at all (like the Kona One now does).
>
> 2- Use the normal rules for pumping; ie one pump per wave or gust.
>
> 3- No pumping in light winds, unrestricted pumping in heavy air.
>
> 4- Current restrictions
>
> 5 - No restrictions.
>
> Please give me some feedback if you think we should consider changes. Last
> time the
> feeling was overwhelmingly for the current system. One thing I would say
> is that anyone
> who wants more restrictive restrictions should know that they may be put
> onto the protest
> committee to rule on them!
>
>
> Finally; and this time it's the real "finally"...
>
> I've spoken to Windsurfing NSW about setting up a NSW Windsurfer Class
> Association as an
> unincorporated body. These days, incorporation isn't worth the hassle.
>
> The idea is that there would be a minimal fee ($20-25) that people who
> were not
> members of other NSW Windsurfing clubs will HAVE to pay before being
> allowed to do a
> regatta. This is vital for insurance purposes, and we have been getting in
> trouble for
> letting people get away without being members.
>
> If anyone is keen to assist setting it up, please drop me a line.
>
> Thanks all
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

#297

From: "POWNALL Murray [PD06953]" <murray.pownall@...>
Date: Thu Sep 4, 2008 6:02 am
Subject: RE: DAC Summer Series and Nationals

muzpow

Offline

Chris, Derek, Graeme,

Being in the 50+ age group, I think keeping it simple and straighforward is what made the Windsurfer One Design class so much fun in the first place, and would partly explain its' Renaissance in recent years. Keep with existing rules and format I would say.

Regards

Murray J.Pownall S/c 6953

Crime Prevention & Diversity Officer

Esperance Police Station

100 Dempster Rd, Esperance W.A. 6450

Ph: 9071 1900

Fax: 9071 3030

E-mail: murray.pownall@... .

From: WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graeme H Williams Esq
Sent: Thursday, 4 September 2008 09:18
To: WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [WindsurferOD] DAC Summer Series and Nationals

I agree with Derek being even older. The other matter is that often tacking in very light winds needs a few pumps to get the board moving again [and to avoid rounding up]. Other than that, I am with Derek in that Bill’s choices numbered 2 or 4 [modified] would be my choice.

Graeme [not-so-speedy] Williams

From: WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Derek Couper
Sent: Thursday, 4 September 2008 11:15 AM
To: WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WindsurferOD] DAC Summer Series and Nationals

G'day Chris,

Regarding the pumping rules, being the old weak (and getting older and weaker by the day) mongrel that I am, I believe the current rules are probably the best for the Wallys, purely because if pumping was banned it would be impossible to police. Conversely, if unrestricted pumping was allowed, it would be a case of the fittest and strongest, and not necessarily the the smartest sailors would be at the front of the fleet. As far as I'm concerned, the main appeal of racing a Wally rather than other boards is the racing / tactics skills required to do well. Not pumping downwind is as good as impossible due to the constant trimming of the sail on waves, so pumping would have to be allowed downwind purely for practical reasons. At least we can then have a rest on the upwind legs and concentrate on wind shifts.

That's my 10 cents worth.

Derek

----- Original Message -----

From: ct249

Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 6:22 PM

Subject: [WindsurferOD] DAC Summer Series and Nationals

Hi all.

It's that time of the year again.

This summer, Dobroyd is having a One Design series, with racing each Saturday from 2
pm. We should get a decent little fleet, of a wide range of experience. We'll be
concentrating on juniors, coaching and laid-back sailing, but we'll also have our club
championship on a different day to Narrabeen fleet and the Raceboards, in the hope of
attracting some visitors for some top class racing.

Deb and I may miss the first race (this weekend) due to jetlag (her) and flu (me) but we'd
love to see more people down there from the first official race, the weekend after this one.

Also, about the Nationals.

If you're planning to go and need a cheap place to crash, drop me a line and I'll chase up
the details of the cheaper caravan hire from private owners at Salamander Bay Village. The
alternatives are more expensive, and supply is limited. I know it's early, but it could be
good to start planning soon.

We've already got a very nice waterfront place, but many of them have restrictive hire
conditions (ie high rents and a minimum of a week's booking) until the Saturday night of
the nationals, when prices drop dramatically and houses are available for just a few days.

Secondly;
we were planning to have a meal and function at the Salamander Shores motel, just behind
the club. I went up there and found that the meals and drinks were a cut (or two) above
the norm; see

http://www.salamander-shores.com/index.html

Would people like to do the function? Meal and room hire will cost $40 per person, which
will be absorbed into the race fee of around $180. The alternative is to just get some
pizzas into the sailing club and just wander up the road to the Salamander's bar.

If people want to have the function, what is the best day? At the Batemans Bay nationals
we had the sit-down meal during the presentation, but many people left early. Port
Stephens is a bit closer, but we don't want to charge for meals people won't eat.

Would people like to have the sit-down function on the Sunday night and then a quick
informal presentation at the sailing club, or what?

Please give me some feedback asap so I can convert a provisional booking at the hotel
into a firm one, or drop the idea altogether.

Finally - the pumping question. Some people would like to see more restrictions. A few
years ago, Bill put up a questionnaire offering five choices;

1 - No pumping at all (like the Kona One now does).

2- Use the normal rules for pumping; ie one pump per wave or gust.

3- No pumping in light winds, unrestricted pumping in heavy air.

4- Current restrictions

5 - No restrictions.

Please give me some feedback if you think we should consider changes. Last time the
feeling was overwhelmingly for the current system. One thing I would say is that anyone
who wants more restrictive restrictions should know that they may be put onto the protest
committee to rule on them!

Finally; and this time it's the real "finally"...

I've spoken to Windsurfing NSW about setting up a NSW Windsurfer Class Association as an
unincorporated body. These days, incorporation isn't worth the hassle.

The idea is that there would be a minimal fee ($20-25) that people who were not
members of other NSW Windsurfing clubs will HAVE to pay before being allowed to do a
regatta. This is vital for insurance purposes, and we have been getting in trouble for
letting people get away without being members.

If anyone is keen to assist setting it up, please drop me a line.

Thanks all

Chris

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#296

From: "Graeme H Williams Esq" <graemewilliams@...>
Date: Thu Sep 4, 2008 1:17 am
Subject: RE: DAC Summer Series and Nationals

speedy_onede...

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Graeme [not-so-speedy] Williams

G'day Chris,

That's my 10 cents worth.

Derek

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Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 6:22 PM

Subject: [WindsurferOD] DAC Summer Series and Nationals

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#295

From: "Derek Couper" <dc@...>
Date: Thu Sep 4, 2008 1:15 am
Subject: Re: DAC Summer Series and Nationals

dc@...

G'day Chris,

That's my 10 cents worth.

Derek

----- Original Message -----

From: ct249

Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 6:22 PM

Subject: [WindsurferOD] DAC Summer Series and Nationals

#294

From: stephen barton <bartonstephen1@...>
Date: Wed Sep 3, 2008 1:45 pm
Subject: RE: DAC Summer Series and Nationals

bartonstephen1@...

To: WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com
From: cthom249@...
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 08:22:52 +0000
Subject: [WindsurferOD] DAC Summer Series and Nationals

Yeah, more pimping! Pimp my ride, dude! Shit yeah! Pimp my wally. Yeah get it on. Yeah, fully sick, let's do more pimping- oh... pumping... oh, well, yeah, well, pumping... whatever.

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#293

From: "ct249" <cthom249@...>
Date: Wed Sep 3, 2008 8:22 am
Subject: DAC Summer Series and Nationals

ct249

Offline

Hi all.

It's that time of the year again.

This summer, Dobroyd is having a One Design series, with racing each Saturday
from 2
pm. We should get a decent little fleet, of a wide range of experience. We'll be
concentrating on juniors, coaching and laid-back sailing, but we'll also have
our club
championship on a different day to Narrabeen fleet and the Raceboards, in the
hope of
attracting some visitors for some top class racing.

Deb and I may miss the first race (this weekend) due to jetlag (her) and flu
(me) but we'd
love to see more people down there from the first official race, the weekend
after this one.


Also, about the Nationals.

If you're planning to go and need a cheap place to crash, drop me a line and
I'll chase up
the details of the cheaper caravan hire from private owners at Salamander Bay
Village. The
alternatives are more expensive, and supply is limited. I know it's early, but
it could be
good to start planning soon.

We've already got a very nice waterfront place, but many of them have
restrictive hire
conditions (ie high rents and a minimum of a week's booking) until the Saturday
night of
the nationals, when prices drop dramatically and houses are available for just a
few days.


Secondly;
we were planning to have a meal and function at the Salamander Shores motel,
just behind
the club. I went up there and found that the meals and drinks were a cut (or
two) above
the norm; see

http://www.salamander-shores.com/index.html

Would people like to do the function? Meal and room hire will cost $40 per
person, which
will be absorbed into the race fee of around $180. The alternative is to just
get some
pizzas into the sailing club and just wander up the road to the Salamander's
bar.

If people want to have the function, what is the best day? At the Batemans Bay
nationals
we had the sit-down meal during the presentation, but many people left early.
Port
Stephens is a bit closer, but we don't want to charge for meals people won't
eat.

Would people like to have the sit-down function on the Sunday night and then a
quick
informal presentation at the sailing club, or what?

Please give me some feedback asap so I can convert a provisional booking at the
hotel
into a firm one, or drop the idea altogether.


Finally - the pumping question. Some people would like to see more restrictions.
A few
years ago, Bill put up a questionnaire offering five choices;

1 - No pumping at all (like the Kona One now does).

2- Use the normal rules for pumping; ie one pump per wave or gust.

3- No pumping in light winds, unrestricted pumping in heavy air.

4- Current restrictions

5 - No restrictions.

Please give me some feedback if you think we should consider changes. Last time
the
feeling was overwhelmingly for the current system. One thing I would say is that
anyone
who wants more restrictive restrictions should know that they may be put onto
the protest
committee to rule on them!


Finally; and this time it's the real "finally"...

I've spoken to Windsurfing NSW about setting up a NSW Windsurfer Class
Association as an
unincorporated body. These days, incorporation isn't worth the hassle.

The idea is that there would be a minimal fee ($20-25) that people who were not
members of other NSW Windsurfing clubs will HAVE to pay before being allowed to
do a
regatta. This is vital for insurance purposes, and we have been getting in
trouble for
letting people get away without being members.

If anyone is keen to assist setting it up, please drop me a line.

Thanks all

Chris

#292

From: "Derek Couper" <dc@...>
Date: Tue Aug 5, 2008 1:27 am
Subject: Re: NATIONALS BROCHURE

dc@...

G'day Chris,

I've got an interested party from Brisbane re the original boards - are they allowed harnesses?

Derek

----- Original Message -----

From: Chris Thompson

Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 11:48 PM

Subject: [WindsurferOD] NATIONALS BROCHURE

Here's the nationals brochure for 2009 - please send it on to anyone
who could be interested.

time to think about getting your bookings in, cause this should be
the biggest nationals for a few years.

Around Port Stephens, it's often expensive to get good accommodation
until the Saturday night - but then prices drop dramatically and
waterfront homes become affordable. Best option could be to crash out
somewhere else on Friday night and move in on Saturday. Some of us
have already snagged the cheap waterfronts! :-)

If you're after more budget accommodation, email me for contact
details of private on-site van owners at the Salamander Bay Village,
less than a minute from the beach and another 4m along the beach to
the club. Or try the Anna Bay locations (on the brochure).

If you have any friends who want to come but don't have a modern One
Design, tell them to grab a Classic (daggerboard, dacron sail) 'cause
if we get any interest, we'll have a special division for them, to
cater for the people who just want to have a fun long weekend.

We'll have Silver Fleet and the Juniors along to mix up the fun, so
bring your kids and their little rigs.

With a bit of luck, we could have entries from every state, so come
on and join in!

Chris

#291

From: stephen barton <bartonstephen1@...>
Date: Tue Aug 5, 2008 12:32 am
Subject: RE: Re: NATIONALS BROCHURE

bartonstephen1@...

there's no such thing as a cheap root, but if you need a lift or your equipment taken up there i should be able to help.

To: WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com
From: pierrecoupal@...
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:20:06 +0000
Subject: [WindsurferOD] Re: NATIONALS BROCHURE

Chris, how do I read the zip?? It's not a PDF, seems to be a
directory of .pages files...

I need to find a cheap ute if I go... we'll see.

Thanks,
PC.

--- In WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com, Chris Thompson <cthom249@...>
wrote:
>
> Here's the nationals brochure for 2009 - please send it on to
anyone
> who could be interested.
>
> time to think about getting your bookings in, cause this should be
> the biggest nationals for a few years.
>
> Around Port Stephens, it's often expensive to get good
accommodation
> until the Saturday night - but then prices drop dramatically and
> waterfront homes become affordable. Best option could be to crash
out
> somewhere else on Friday night and move in on Saturday. Some of us
> have already snagged the cheap waterfronts! :-)
>
>
> If you're after more budget accommodation, email me for contact
> details of private on-site van owners at the Salamander Bay
Village,
> less than a minute from the beach and another 4m along the beach
to
> the club. Or try the Anna Bay locations (on the brochure).
>
> If you have any friends who want to come but don't have a modern
One
> Design, tell them to grab a Classic (daggerboard, dacron
sail) 'cause
> if we get any interest, we'll have a special division for them, to
> cater for the people who just want to have a fun long weekend.
>
> We'll have Silver Fleet and the Juniors along to mix up the fun,
so
> bring your kids and their little rigs.
>
> With a bit of luck, we could have entries from every state, so
come
> on and join in!
>
> Chris
>

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#290

From: Chris Thompson <cthom249@...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2008 9:53 pm
Subject: Re: NATIONALS BROCHURE - NOW IN A FORMAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY READ!

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Whoops, these things happen after midnight....

Here 'tis in a pdf.

Chris

On 05/08/2008, at 2:20 AM, pierrecoupal wrote:

Chris, how do I read the zip?? It's not a PDF, seems to be a�
directory of .pages files...

I need to find a cheap ute if I go... we'll see.

Thanks,
PC.

--- In�WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com, Chris Thompson <cthom249@...>�
wrote:
>
> Here's the nationals brochure for 2009 - please send it on to�
anyone�
> who could be interested.
>�
> time to think about getting your bookings in, cause this should be�
> the biggest nationals for a few years.
>�
> Around Port Stephens, it's often expensive to get good�
accommodation�
> until the Saturday night - but then prices drop dramatically and�
> waterfront homes become affordable. Best option could be to crash�
out�
> somewhere else on Friday night and move in on Saturday. Some of us�
> have already snagged the cheap waterfronts! :-)
>�
>�
> If you're after more budget accommodation, email me for contact�
> details of private on-site van owners at the Salamander Bay�
Village,�
> less than a minute from the beach and another 4m along the beach�
to�
> the club. Or try the Anna Bay locations (on the brochure).
>�
> If you have any friends who want to come but don't have a modern�
One�
> Design, tell them to grab a Classic (daggerboard, dacron�
sail) 'cause�
> if we get any interest, we'll have a special division for them, to�
> cater for the people who just want to have a fun long weekend.
>�
> We'll have Silver Fleet and the Juniors along to mix up the fun,�
so�
> bring your kids and their little rigs.
>�
> With a bit of luck, we could have entries from every state, so�
come�
> on and join in!
>�
> Chris
>

#289

From: Chris Thompson <cthom249@...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2008 9:56 pm
Subject: Re: Re: NATIONALS BROCHURE

ct249

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I'm doing a text file shortly, with the Notice of Race; just wanted to have something that can be handed out first.

Chris

On 05/08/2008, at 7:27 AM, Graeme H Williams Esq wrote:

Chris, like�Pierre�I cannot open apart from the images of wallys. �I cannot read any text or details.� Can you send the text in word format [and maybe forget the wally images]?
�
Speedy
�
�
From:�WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com�[mailto:WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com]�On Behalf Of�pierrecoupal
Sent:�Tuesday, 5 August 2008 2:20 AM
To:�WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com
Subject:�[WindsurferOD] Re: NATIONALS BROCHURE
�
Chris, how do I read the zip?? It's not a PDF, seems to�be a�
directory of .pages files...

I need to find a cheap ute if I go... we'll see.

Thanks,
PC.

--- In�WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com, Chris Thompson <cthom249@...>�
wrote:
>
> Here's the nationals�brochure for 2009 - please send it on to�
anyone�
> who could�be interested.
>�
> time to think about getting your�bookings in, cause this should�be�
> the�biggest nationals for a few years.
>�
> Around Port Stephens, it's often expensive to get good�
accommodation�
> until the Saturday night -�but then prices drop dramatically and�
> waterfront homes�become affordable. Best option could�be to crash�
out�
> somewhere else on Friday night and move in on Saturday. Some of us�
> have already snagged the cheap waterfronts! :-)
>�
>�
> If you're after more�budget accommodation, email me for contact�
> details of private on-site van owners at the Salamander Bay�
Village,�
> less than a minute from the�beach and another 4m along the�beach�
to�
> the club. Or try the�Anna�Bay�locations (on the�brochure).
>�
> If you have any friends who want to come�but don't have a modern�
One�
> Design, tell them to grab�a Classic (daggerboard, dacron�
sail) 'cause�
> if we get any interest, we'll have a special division for them, to�
> cater for the people who just want to have a fun long weekend.
>�
> We'll have Silver Fleet and the Juniors along to mix up the fun,�
so�
>�bring your kids and their little rigs.
>�
> With a�bit of luck, we could have entries from every state, so�
come�
> on and join in!
>�
> Chris
>

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#288

From: "Graeme H Williams Esq" <graemewilliams@...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2008 9:27 pm
Subject: RE: Re: NATIONALS BROCHURE

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Chris, like Pierre I cannot open apart from the images of wallys. I cannot read any text or details. Can you send the text in word format [and maybe forget the wally images]?

Speedy

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#287

From: "pierrecoupal" <pierrecoupal@...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2008 4:20 pm
Subject: Re: NATIONALS BROCHURE

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Chris, how do I read the zip?? It's not a PDF, seems to be a
directory of .pages files...

I need to find a cheap ute if I go... we'll see.

Thanks,
PC.

--- In WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com, Chris Thompson <cthom249@...>
wrote:
>
> Here's the nationals brochure for 2009  - please send it on to
anyone
> who could be interested.
>
> time to think about getting your bookings in, cause this should be
> the biggest nationals for a few years.
>
> Around Port Stephens, it's often expensive to get good
accommodation
> until the Saturday night - but then prices drop dramatically and
> waterfront homes become affordable. Best option could be to crash
out
> somewhere else on Friday night and move in on Saturday. Some of us
> have already snagged the cheap waterfronts!  :-)
>
>
> If you're after more budget accommodation, email me for contact
> details of private on-site van owners at the Salamander Bay
Village,
> less than a minute from the beach and another 4m along the  beach
to
> the club. Or try the Anna Bay locations (on the brochure).
>
> If you have any friends who want to come but don't have a modern
One
> Design, tell them to grab a Classic (daggerboard, dacron
sail) 'cause
> if we get any interest, we'll have a special division for them, to
> cater for the people who just want to have a fun long weekend.
>
> We'll have Silver Fleet and the Juniors along to mix up the fun,
so
> bring your kids and their little rigs.
>
> With a bit of luck, we could have entries from every state, so
come
> on and join in!
>
> Chris
>

#286

From: Chris Thompson <cthom249@...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2008 1:48 pm
Subject: NATIONALS BROCHURE

ct249

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Here's the nationals brochure for 2009  - please send it on to anyone
who could be interested.

time to think about getting your bookings in, cause this should be
the biggest nationals for a few years.

Around Port Stephens, it's often expensive to get good accommodation
until the Saturday night - but then prices drop dramatically and
waterfront homes become affordable. Best option could be to crash out
somewhere else on Friday night and move in on Saturday. Some of us
have already snagged the cheap waterfronts!  :-)


If you're after more budget accommodation, email me for contact
details of private on-site van owners at the Salamander Bay Village,
less than a minute from the beach and another 4m along the  beach to
the club. Or try the Anna Bay locations (on the brochure).

If you have any friends who want to come but don't have a modern One
Design, tell them to grab a Classic (daggerboard, dacron sail) 'cause
if we get any interest, we'll have a special division for them, to
cater for the people who just want to have a fun long weekend.

We'll have Silver Fleet and the Juniors along to mix up the fun, so
bring your kids and their little rigs.

With a bit of luck, we could have entries from every state, so come
on and join in!

Chris

#285

From: "pierrecoupal" <pierrecoupal@...>
Date: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:59 am
Subject: Re: Jumping around on a Windsurfer

pierrecoupal

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--- In WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com, stephen barton
<bartonstephen1@...> wrote:

Happiness (and shape and health) is what matters, Stephen, that's why I
do that. Occupies the 8-14 knot range, better than moping.

> Shinguards

I use them for 2 occasions: when shins get too damaged (as in now I
write), and when I try new stuff. Basically I wear them most of the
time.

> 10 years to rail

No way. In the '80s, maybe 1/5 of all experienced windsurfers could
rail, and at least 2/3 of those who WANTED could within the same
season. The only change in the species since is the "I want it now"
and "too difficult" approach to challenges.

Whatever you do, enjoy the wind!

#284

From: stephen barton <bartonstephen1@...>
Date: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:26 am
Subject: RE: Jumping around on a Windsurfer

bartonstephen1@...

See, I'm not sure whether I should be impressed, inspired and motivated by those freestyle antics or be a bit realistic and see it as tragic, sad, weird, odd.Oh alright then - I'll give myself 10 more years at it and if I can't do a rail ride by then , then I'm giving up. Actually I like the shin guards in some of the clips -they could help.

To: windsurferod@yahoogroups.com
From: kmurden@...
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:35:01 +1000
Subject: RE: [WindsurferOD] Jumping around on a Windsurfer

Pierre,

That is SWEET! Good footage too...

Karen

To: WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com
From: pierrecoupal@hotmail.com
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 01:23:46 +0000
Subject: [WindsurferOD] Jumping around on a Windsurfer

Hey guys, as an ex-pat, my wife was pointing out that not being in
Sydney makes me 'jumpy' (really, aggro).

Anyways, here is the result:

http://broadbandsports.com/node/18672

Freestyle on an old-style Windsurfer, the next best thing after being
there...

Cheers all,
PC.

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#283

From: karen constable <kmurden@...>
Date: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:35 am
Subject: RE: Jumping around on a Windsurfer

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Pierre,

That is SWEET! Good footage too...

Karen

To: WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com
From: pierrecoupal@...
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 01:23:46 +0000
Subject: [WindsurferOD] Jumping around on a Windsurfer

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#282

From: "pierrecoupal" <pierrecoupal@...>
Date: Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:23 am
Subject: Jumping around on a Windsurfer

pierrecoupal

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Hey guys, as an ex-pat, my wife was pointing out that not being in
Sydney makes me 'jumpy' (really, aggro).

Anyways, here is the result:

http://broadbandsports.com/node/18672

Freestyle on an old-style Windsurfer, the next best thing after being
there...

Cheers all,
PC.

#281

From: stephen barton <bartonstephen1@...>
Date: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:30 am
Subject: RE: PORT STEPHENS OR MARMONG POINT WINTER REGATTAS

bartonstephen1@...

any wallies going to marmong on sunday? 20-25 knots hmmm... could be a good wake up call.

To: WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com
From: cthom249@...
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 07:10:51 +1000
Subject: [WindsurferOD] PORT STEPHENS OR MARMONG POINT WINTER REGATTAS

Just a reminder about the racing this weekend; it's on at Port Stephens (with the dinghies) or at Marmong Point (with the other boards).

We had 16 boards and a great time at Marmong a couple of years ago.

Racing starts at noon on Saturday and 11 on Sunday.

I've got to sail at Port Stephens on one day (to get some photos for the Nationals website I'm making, chat to the guys about the nationals etc) but if there's interest in sailing at Marmong I'll head there one day.

The wind looks good on Saturday and great on Sunday!

****************************************************************************************************************************************************************************

Hey Speedy, tell us more about the Chinese Wallies. Were they on TV racing, or just as scenery?

On 12/07/2008, at 9:34 AM, graemewilliams@ozemail.com.au wrote:

Guys, sorry that I cannot make it to either venue as I will only be arriving back from China on the 18 July. What about the next Worlds here or Vietnam; I see images of Wallys on the Government TV channels?

regards

Graeme Speedy Williams

On Fri Jul 11 9:12 , roger.crawford@exemail.com.au sent:

Sounds great Chris, but I've already got something else on that weekend.
Roger.

> Hi all.
>
>
> It's all happening on 19-20 July. Marmong Point are holding the
> windsurfing mid-winters. We went there a couple of years back and had
> a good fleet and a great time.
>
> However, Port Stephens Sailing and Aquatic Club (host of the
> nationals) are also holding their winter regatta on the same date and
> they will allow us to join in with the dinghies.
>
> I'm going to Port Stephens to meet with the club officials, but if no
> one else comes I may just race my Laser, as the locals are Laser
> sailors.
>
> Obviously it's a pity these two events are clashing, but can anyone
> interested in sailing that weekend post here so that other people can
> agree where to go?
>
> PS sorry about the late info but it all got caught up in the whole
> "will they/won't they" debate regarding the Raceboards coming to
> Port Stephens.
>
> Chris
>
>
>

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#280

From: "Graeme H Williams Esq" <graemewilliams@...>
Date: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:49 am
Subject: RE: PORT STEPHENS OR MARMONG POINT WINTER REGATTAS

speedy_onede...

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There was a good piece of footage, albeit brief, which included pair of Wallys sailing/racing as part of a promotional for one of the Provinces. It was on CCTV the China National broadcaster which features an English news/propaganda station hosted by our very own former ABC anchorman, Edwin Maher.

Speedy

From: WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Thompson
Sent: Wednesday, 16 July 2008 7:11 AM
To: WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WindsurferOD] PORT STEPHENS OR MARMONG POINT WINTER REGATTAS

Just a reminder about the racing this weekend; it's on at Port Stephens (with the dinghies) or at Marmong Point (with the other boards).

We had 16 boards and a great time at Marmong a couple of years ago.

Racing starts at noon on Saturday and 11 on Sunday.

The wind looks good on Saturday and great on Sunday!

****************************************************************************************************************************************************************************

Hey Speedy, tell us more about the Chinese Wallies. Were they on TV racing, or just as scenery?

On 12/07/2008, at 9:34 AM, graemewilliams@ozemail.com.au wrote:

Guys, sorry that I cannot make it to either venue as I will only be arriving back from China on the 18 July. What about the next Worlds here or Vietnam; I see images of Wallys on the Government TV channels?

regards

Graeme Speedy Williams

On Fri Jul 11 9:12 , roger.crawford@exemail.com.au sent:

Sounds great Chris, but I've already got something else on that weekend.
Roger.

> Hi all.
>
>
> It's all happening on 19-20 July. Marmong Point are holding the
> windsurfing mid-winters. We went there a couple of years back and had
> a good fleet and a great time.
>
> However, Port Stephens Sailing and Aquatic Club (host of the
> nationals) are also holding their winter regatta on the same date and
> they will allow us to join in with the dinghies.
>
> I'm going to Port Stephens to meet with the club officials, but if no
> one else comes I may just race my Laser, as the locals are Laser
> sailors.
>
> Obviously it's a pity these two events are clashing, but can anyone
> interested in sailing that weekend post here so that other people can
> agree where to go?
>
> PS sorry about the late info but it all got caught up in the whole
> "will they/won't they" debate regarding the Raceboards coming to
> Port Stephens.
>
> Chris
>
>
>

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#279

From: Chris Thompson <cthom249@...>
Date: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:10 pm
Subject: PORT STEPHENS OR MARMONG POINT WINTER REGATTAS

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