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Re: [WindsurferOD] Windsurfers on ebay

Chris,
 
Thats fair enough, and looking back I probably jumped in without thinking too much. I certainly appreciate the work you do to organise and promote the class.
My father was disappointed about missing out on the board. I'll pass on your details to him so that he may contact you about buying this one or some other board.
I'm lucky enough to have access to a work car with unlimited fuel for private use, so if you happen to win a board on ebay that's located a little out of the way, give me a call and I could probably help to pick it up.
Hope there no hard feelings,
 
Phil
 
----- Original Message ----
From: Chris Thompson <cthom249@...>
To: WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 13 March, 2008 11:59:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WindsurferOD] Windsurfers on ebay


Phil, the message has been taken the wrong way.

I have never previously "cornered the market" in any way and in fact have spent a lot of time getting boards for people.

What happened was that I was going to the central coast today, and about 2 minutes before I left I saw the board on Ebay. Seeing that I was going to be close to where the board was, I rang up the seller and explained that I was going to be near him, and whether he would sell it to me at what he considered to be a fair price. He gave me a price; there was no pressure from me. The only reason I did not wait for the auction to finish was that I was already going to be in the area and it seemed sensible for someone in t he active fleet to get the board while in the area, rather than make me or someone else drive 3-4 hours in two days time or have the board sold out of racing. This is pretty normal practise in other classes.

However, while I was driving up there I was called by the vendor who said that after he had agreed to sell the board to me, the ebay price had since gone up. I was happy to pay the extra (and did), but it was a difficult situation as I had a vendor who had agreed to sell (of his own free [market] will) and I was already actually in my car on the way to collect. The deal had been made, but the price was going up and could still keep going up while I drove....... .I could have insisted on the earlier agreement, but that would put the guy in a difficult situation so I rang up Deb to ask her to explain the situation on the email list as she had access to a computer.

There was no intention to rip anyone off, one of the active Windsurfer fleet was in the area and it seemed like not a bad idea to pick the board up, which could not be done before an agreement had been made. It seemed like a good idea to let the fleet know what was happening, and Deb tried to put on a jocular tone in the email that has been misinterpreted. That's all.

The board is available to anyone WOD sailor for the $75 I paid for it. Whoever gets it does not have to drive to the Central Coast to inspect it and then return to pick it up. That does not seem too bad a deal for anyone! I have never asked a cent more for a board than I have paid for it, although the time I take to do stuff for the class is at a considerable financial cost to me.

Please remember that I was bidding when you got your board and you emailed me to say "if you can control your bidding finger I’d appreciate it". You asked me not to fight you for your board, which is not letting the free market reign. 

 

Chris








On 13/03/2008, at 10:43 PM, Phillip Julian wrote:


Chris,

 

I know you have the best of intentions for the class and that you are eager to ensure that any available boards are put to good use, but I must say that I don’t agree with you negotiating to buy the recent board that was listed and him ending the auction early.

In my mind, Ebay is the fairest and easiest way for people who want boards to get them. Whoever wants it most will win the auction, and you don’t have to go to the trouble and effort buying them on peoples behalf. Why not just promote the ebay listings to the people you know are looking for ODs and let them bid themselves?

My father was watching that item and planning to inspect it and probably bid. Now if he wants it he has to go through you. And how do you decide who to sell it to and for what price? Are you willing to say how much you paid for it? I think its best to let bidders fight it out for themselves rather than break the ebay rules. We live in a free market economy after all.

That’s my two cents worth. I’d be interested to read the opinion of others.

 

Phil Julian

 

 


From: WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Deborah Apthorp
Sent: Thursday, 13 March 2008 4:20 PM
To: WindsurferOD@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WindsurferOD] Marmong Pt and National titles

 

Hi all,

Chris says to send out a bulletin to all NSW members - if one of you is bidding up a board on the Central Coast this afternoon, stop it!! Chris has already agreed to buy it from the guy. If you want to haggle with Chris, that's a different matter.

Cheers

Deborah.







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Nope, they're not the same thing. The Marmong Point Interclub is on this weekend. Sorry for the late entry but it was slow coming to me. As usual this regatta...
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Feb 14, 2008
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Hi all, Chris says to send out a bulletin to all NSW members - if one of you is bidding up a board on the Central Coast this afternoon, stop it!! Chris has ...
Deborah Apthorp
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Mar 13, 2008
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Chris, I know you have the best of intentions for the class and that you are eager to ensure that any available boards are put to good use, but I must say that...
Phillip Julian
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Mar 13, 2008
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Forget about E-Bay I say! I have a windsurfer one-design for sale [Melbourne] and am quite happy to sacrifice it before the Easter National Titles for only...
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Mar 13, 2008
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800 is that all! To: WindsurferOD@...: graemewilliams@...: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:46:26 +1100Subject: RE: [WindsurferOD]...
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Mar 13, 2008
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Phil, the message has been taken the wrong way. I have never previously "cornered the market" in any way and in fact have spent a lot of time getting boards...
Chris Thompson
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Mar 13, 2008
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$75!!!!!Fucking rip off!!!!!!! what d'you pay for it. $73. To: WindsurferOD@...: cthom249@...: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:59:39...
stephen barton
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Mar 14, 2008
12:23 pm

... You got to be kidding, right? Anything under $100, however banged up, buy it. Use it for freestyle and wrecking and teaching friends and as a loaner, and...
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Mar 15, 2008
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Chris, Thats fair enough, and looking back I probably jumped in without thinking too much. I certainly appreciate the work you do to organise and promote the...
Phillip Julian
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Mar 14, 2008
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That's all cool, Phil, no worries and thanks a lot for the offer of assistance. The board is an early "fat mould" in medium condition; a couple of bumps and...
Chris Thompson
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Mar 14, 2008
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Hey guys, forget ebay, more ads in gumtree (the north american kijiji). Have a look at: http://www.gumtree.com.au/sydney/03/16773403.html (if not the same)...
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Whoops sorry I meant: http://www.gumtree.com.au/ ... kijiji)....
pierrecoupal
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Mar 14, 2008
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Hi all. It's all happening on 19-20 July. Marmong Point are holding the windsurfing mid-winters. We went there a couple of years back and had a good fleet and...
Chris Thompson
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Jul 10, 2008
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Sounds great Chris, but I've already got something else on that weekend. Roger....
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Jul 11, 2008
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Guys, sorry that I cannot make it to either venue as I will only be arriving back from China on the 18 July. What about the next Worlds here or Vietnam; I see...
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Jul 11, 2008
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Just a reminder about the racing this weekend; it's on at Port Stephens (with the dinghies) or at Marmong Point (with the other boards). We had 16 boards and a...
Chris Thompson
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Jul 15, 2008
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There was a good piece of footage, albeit brief, which included pair of Wallys sailing/racing as part of a promotional for one of the Provinces. It was on...
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any wallies going to marmong on sunday? 20-25 knots hmmm... could be a good wake up call. To: WindsurferOD@...: cthom249@...: Wed,...
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Jul 19, 2008
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... rego,first race ect.Anyone know how many are sailing?Cheers DOLLY....
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