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#64461 From: nittanykat@...
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:25 pm
Subject: Re: [We Are...Penn State] Official Indiana prediction and betting thread
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20%  on Indiana plus 25.

Prediction:  PSU 36 Indiana 16.


-----Original Message-----
From: Trader Kevin <cbot_kevin@...>
To: PSU Football List a <we_are_penn_state@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Nov 12, 2009 11:14 am
Subject: [We Are...Penn State] Official Indiana prediction and betting thread






Point spread
Penn State -25
Indiana +25

Money Line
Penn State -2125
Indiana +2125

Total
Over 51.5
Under 51.5

You may bet between 0% and 20% of your remaining NittanyBucks on this game, as
it is not a designated "action week."

Penn State Proud, Trader Kevin







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#64460 From: "Kroll, Paul D. (MSFC-IS70)[UNITeS]" <Paul.D.Kroll@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:16 pm
Subject: Weekly Joke
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A blonde woman was having financial troubles so she decided to kidnap a child
and demand a ransom. She went to a local park, grabbed a little boy, took him
behind a tree and wrote this note.

"I have kidnapped your child. I am sorry to do this but I need the money. Leave
$10,000 in a plain brown bag behind the big oak tree in the park at 7 AM."
Signed, "The Blonde".

She pinned the note inside the little boy's jacket and told him to go straight
home. The next morning, she returned to the park to find the $10,000 in a brown
bag behind the big oak tree, just as she had instructed. Inside the bag was the
following note.

"Here is your money. I cannot believe that one blonde would do this to another."

Dave Kroll   Penn State Proud
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#64459 From: "Jim Ronemus" <jronemus@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:10 pm
Subject: RE: [We Are...Penn State] Official Indiana prediction and betting thread
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Lions-35

Hoosiers - 14



20% on Indiana +25



Jim (JRR)



From: We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Trader Kevin
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:15 AM
To: PSU Football List a
Subject: [We Are...Penn State] Official Indiana prediction and betting
thread





Point spread
Penn State -25
Indiana +25

Money Line
Penn State -2125
Indiana +2125

Total
Over 51.5
Under 51.5

You may bet between 0% and 20% of your remaining NittanyBucks on this game,
as it is not a designated "action week."

Penn State Proud, Trader Kevin





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#64458 From: nittanykat@...
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:17 am
Subject: Way , way OT: November 13. This Day in History
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<<On November 13, Felix Unger was asked to remove himself from his place of
residence. That request came from his wife.>>

Just in case you forgot.


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#64457 From: "B. Gates" <bgates@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:04 am
Subject: Re: [We Are...Penn State] tOSU throwback uniforms
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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Trader Kevin <cbot_kevin@...> wrote:

> Here are the uniforms Ohio State will wear at Michigan next Saturday...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yf3lynk
>


I'll take the points.  Mich 21 OSU 17.


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#64456 From: "B. Gates" <bgates@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:51 am
Subject: Our inconvenient truth
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This is part of what most of us on this list already know.
It's also part of what some of our detractors don't want others to know.

<http://live.psu.edu/youtube/OoCbPyPlfls>


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#64455 From: Trader Kevin <cbot_kevin@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:56 am
Subject: Seventh BCS conference forming?
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There's a rumor that Boise State, Fresno State, and Nevada have been invited to
join the 9-team Mountain West Conference. Such a move would virtually guarantee
us a seventh BCS conference.

Again, just a rumor, but it makes sense.

Penn State Proud, Trader Kevin

#64454 From: Rocko <rocko@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:08 pm
Subject: Re: [We Are...Penn State] Bobby Bowden can't remember the halftime score at Clemson
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Wow. At least Joe knows what's happening in the game, and can talk about where
the turning points were. Bobby seems as clueless as he looks. Sad.

Rocko

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From: "tboynew33" <tboyer@...>
To: "We Are Penn State" <We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:39:12 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [We Are...Penn State] Bobby Bowden can't remember the halftime score at
Clemson






Interesting exchange with reporters.

http://tinyurl.com/yax5x7t

I know we're on thin ice as PSU fans laughing about this -- heck, doesn't our
coach sometimes forget the name of his assistants? But it is pretty interesting
reading nonetheless.




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#64453 From: "Kroll, Paul D. (MSFC-IS70)[UNITeS]" <Paul.D.Kroll@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:08 pm
Subject: Radio of Penn Game in Philly
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Friday, Nov 13 ... Penn State (7:30 p.m.) ... WXPN (88.5 FM)
In addition to what we already know...
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#64452 From: "tboynew33" <tboyer@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:39 pm
Subject: Bobby Bowden can't remember the halftime score at Clemson
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Interesting exchange with reporters.

http://tinyurl.com/yax5x7t

I know we're on thin ice as PSU fans laughing about this -- heck, doesn't our
coach sometimes forget the name of his assistants? But it is pretty interesting
reading nonetheless.

#64451 From: Scott Eisensmith <spe@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:59 pm
Subject: Buckeye Buddy (tm) recommends reading this
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Tressel's book...A Winners Manual  to learn why OSU dominates

#64450 From: "Kroll, Paul D. (MSFC-IS70)[UNITeS]" <Paul.D.Kroll@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:54 pm
Subject: BTN PSU Game
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http://www.bigtennetwork.com/gamefinder/
It's on 611 for DirecTV down her in 'Bama land.

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#64449 From: Trader Kevin <cbot_kevin@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:38 pm
Subject: PSU target compares Big Ten, SEC: 'The speed is about the same'
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#64448 From: ImPoster <impnst8r@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:19 pm
Subject: Re: [We Are...Penn State] Re:Official Indiana prediction and betting thread
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my bet is already in, but I feel that I should "double-down"


----- "Mark Cronmiller" <Mark.Cronmiller@...> wrote:
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PSU 41
> Indiana 28
> Bets:
> 10% Indiana +25
> 10% Over 51.5
> Mark Cronmiller
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#64447 From: Trader Kevin <cbot_kevin@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:15 pm
Subject: Re: [We Are...Penn State] Indiana line
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Ken:

>> 25????? Woah. I can't beleive it has moved so much!!! <<

It opened at 22. I saw it as high as 26.

Penn State Proud, Trader Kevin

#64446 From: Mark.Cronmiller@...
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:01 pm
Subject: Re:Official Indiana prediction and betting thread
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PSU 41
Indiana 28

Bets:
10% Indiana +25
10% Over 51.5

Mark Cronmiller


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#64445 From: Mark.Cronmiller@...
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:56 pm
Subject: Re: Malcolm Gladwell's take on the football concussion sto
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Tom: Where did you hear 52 years Mark? If that is true, that's very
troubling but I don't believe it -- 52 years would mean large numbers of
them dying in their 40s. I suspect the life expectancy is shorter than
average but by a few years at most
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I don't remember where I heard it (actually thought I saw it on this
list), but Google showed me this:
http://www.sptimes.com/2006/01/29/Sports/A_huge_problem.shtml
"While U.S. life expectancy is 77.6 years, recent studies suggest the
average for NFL players is 55, 52 for linemen."

Mark

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#64444 From: "tboynew33" <tboyer@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:46 pm
Subject: Re: Three Tennessee football frosh arrested
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That should be good for a one game suspension or so.

Seriously, wow. Just so bizarre. These guys get full rides and they can have
plenty of spending money if they take out minimal student loans. There is no
reason to do this, unless they do it for sport.

--- In We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com, Trader Kevin <cbot_kevin@...> wrote:
>
> This is a huge blow to Lane Kiffen's first recruiting class, which was ranked
10th nationally. Janzen Jackson was a 5-star defensive back and Nu'Keese
Richardson was a 4-star wide receiver...
>
> KNOXVILLE, Tenn. (WVLT)--Three Tennessee football players are now facing
charges of armed robbery.
>
> A member of the UT Sports Information Department confirmed to us that Nu'Keese
Richardson, Janzen Jackson, and Michael Edwards were arrested about 2:00 o'clock
Thursday morning.
>
> The incident happened at the Pilot convenience store on Cumberland Avenue.
>
> Police say the men were armed with a small semi automatic pellet gun and
robbed a person in the parking lot.
>
> Police arrested them a few minutes later.
>
> http://www.volunteertv.com/home/headlines/69841967.html
>

#64443 From: "Kroll, Paul D. (MSFC-IS70)[UNITeS]" <Paul.D.Kroll@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:38 pm
Subject: RE: [We Are...Penn State] Official Indiana prediction and betting thread
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This is week of anticipation with great expectations and potential disaster.

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From: We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Trader Kevin
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:15 AM
To: PSU Football List a
Subject: [We Are...Penn State] Official Indiana prediction and betting thread



Point spread
Penn State -25
Indiana +25

Money Line
Penn State -2125
Indiana +2125

Total
Over 51.5
Under 51.5

You may bet between 0% and 20% of your remaining NittanyBucks on this game, as
it is not a designated "action week."

Penn State Proud, Trader Kevin



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#64442 From: nittanykat@...
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:37 pm
Subject: Indiana line
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25?????  Woah.  I can't beleive t has moved so much!!!!!!!!!!!!


-----Original Message-----
From: Trader Kevin <cbot_kevin@...>
To: PSU Football List a <we_are_penn_state@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Nov 12, 2009 11:14 am
Subject: [We Are...Penn State] Official Indiana prediction and betting thread






Point spread
Penn State -25
Indiana +25

Money Line
Penn State -2125
Indiana +2125

Total
Over 51.5
Under 51.5

You may bet between 0% and 20% of your remaining NittanyBucks on this game, as
it is not a designated "action week."

Penn State Proud, Trader Kevin







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#64441 From: Trader Kevin <cbot_kevin@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:14 pm
Subject: Official Indiana prediction and betting thread
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Point spread
Penn State -25
Indiana +25

Money Line
Penn State -2125
Indiana +2125

Total
Over 51.5
Under 51.5

You may bet between 0% and 20% of your remaining NittanyBucks on this game, as
it is not a designated "action week."

Penn State Proud, Trader Kevin

#64440 From: Trader Kevin <cbot_kevin@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:09 pm
Subject: Re: [We Are...Penn State] tOSU throwback uniforms
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Tom Boyer:

>> Must be showing my age, but I love it! Bring back 1968 and Woody Hayes. Bring
back the Marshmallow uniforms when PSU goes to MSU. <<

Right coach, wrong year. Those are replicas of Hayes' first National
Championship team in 1954.

Penn State Proud, Trader Kevin

#64439 From: Trader Kevin <cbot_kevin@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:07 pm
Subject: Three Tennessee football frosh arrested
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This is a huge blow to Lane Kiffen's first recruiting class, which was ranked
10th nationally. Janzen Jackson was a 5-star defensive back and Nu'Keese
Richardson was a 4-star wide receiver...

KNOXVILLE, Tenn. (WVLT)--Three Tennessee football players are now facing charges
of armed robbery.

A member of the UT Sports Information Department confirmed to us that Nu'Keese
Richardson, Janzen Jackson, and Michael Edwards were arrested about 2:00 o'clock
Thursday morning.

The incident happened at the Pilot convenience store on Cumberland Avenue.

Police say the men were armed with a small semi automatic pellet gun and robbed
a person in the parking lot.

Police arrested them a few minutes later.

http://www.volunteertv.com/home/headlines/69841967.html

#64438 From: "tboynew33" <tboyer@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:57 pm
Subject: Re: tOSU throwback uniforms
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Must be showing my age, but I love it! Bring back 1968 and Woody Hayes. Bring
back the Marshmallow uniforms when PSU goes to MSU.

--- In We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com, Trader Kevin <cbot_kevin@...> wrote:
>
> Here are the uniforms Ohio State will wear at Michigan next Saturday...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yf3lynk
>
> Penn State Proud, Trader Kevin
>

#64437 From: Trader Kevin <cbot_kevin@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:19 pm
Subject: tOSU throwback uniforms
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Here are the uniforms Ohio State will wear at Michigan next Saturday...

http://tinyurl.com/yf3lynk

Penn State Proud, Trader Kevin

#64436 From: Trader Kevin <cbot_kevin@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:58 pm
Subject: Lots of teams to root for this weekend
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There are lots of teams to root for this weekend besides Penn State...

http://www.pennstateclips.com/2009/11/penn-state-fans-rooting-interest-this.html

Penn State Proud, Trader Kevin

#64435 From: "Kroll, Paul D. (MSFC-IS70)[UNITeS]" <Paul.D.Kroll@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:58 am
Subject: Buie Signs With Nittany Lions On First Day Of Early Period
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http://www.gopsusports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/111109aab.html



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#64434 From: Trader Kevin <cbot_kevin@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:00 pm
Subject: Re: [We Are...Penn State] Malcolm Gladwell's take on the football concussion sto
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Tom Boyer:

>> Maybe someone can get a link to the actual study, but these summaries aren't
bad. <<

http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/pdf/NFLPAExhibitE071105.pdf

http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/pdf/Goodell071102.pdf

Penn State Proud, Trader Kevin

#64433 From: "tboynew33" <tboyer@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:06 pm
Subject: Re: [We Are...Penn State] Malcolm Gladwell's take on the football concussion sto
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Ok, so that NFL player life expectancy of 53 was indeed an old wives tale put to
rest in the 1990s.

Here are two articles about a NIOSH study of 7,000 retired NFL players that
found mortality rates MUCH LOWER than what would be expected of a population
with the same age and race makeup. They may have knee problems and heart
problems and brain problems, but they're not dying early.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=1973574&type=story

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/01/28/sports/super-bowl-xxviii-nfl-players-live-long\
er.html

Maybe someone can get a link to the actual study, but these summaries aren't
bad.


--- In We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com, Trader Kevin <cbot_kevin@...> wrote:
>
> NFL life expectancy 53 to 59, depending on position...
>
> http://www.seattlepi.com/football/362412_nflhealth09.html
>
> Same paper, 20 years earlier: no basis in fact...
>
> http://www.seattlepi.com/archives/1987/8702020427.asp
>
> Heavy players twice as likely to die by 50...
>
> http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2313476
>
> Roger Goodell Defends NFL on Concussions...
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/28/sportsline/main5433158.shtml
>

#64432 From: Trader Kevin <cbot_kevin@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:28 pm
Subject: Re: [We Are...Penn State] Malcolm Gladwell's take on the football concussion sto
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NFL life expectancy 53 to 59, depending on position...

http://www.seattlepi.com/football/362412_nflhealth09.html

Same paper, 20 years earlier: no basis in fact...

http://www.seattlepi.com/archives/1987/8702020427.asp

Heavy players twice as likely to die by 50...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2313476

Roger Goodell Defends NFL on Concussions...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/28/sportsline/main5433158.shtml

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