Mark Cronmiller:

>> Met a guy that coached Trent Varva in high school. Varva was a linemen that
committed to PSU 4-6 years ago, never did anything, then surprised everyone by
walking away from football (all his HS coaches were shocked he gave up). Well,
he had "family issues" - knocked up his girlfriend. Has been working at Home
Depot. <<

Scott tells us walking the floor at Home Depot is now an average job in
Michigan. It's amazing how many gifted players piss away their talent with
off-field issues.

>> One of our former babysitters is the girlfriend of Nick Sheriden the crappy
QB. <<

Is she hot? If the skinny Tate Forcier gets injured Sheridan will be the starter
again. Can you imagine Penn State starting a season with a walk-on as the
second-string QB? Fans would be beside themselves.

>> Any news on whether or not we can expect weekly updates on the prediction
contest this year? And we need some arguments about the merits of the
algorithms, don't we? <<

I'll dig out the spreadsheet soon. I need to populate it with this year's
schedule. The results actually got out in a timely fashion last year. All except
for the post-Rose Bowl standings, which never saw the light of day. I think
everyone was too disgusted to care.

Penn State Proud, Trade Kevin

We're pretty close to having our backup being a walk-on, with McGloin. He
was number 2 at the Blue-White game.

Jerry Lorow (class of '85)


In a message dated 8/5/2009 10:37:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
cbot_kevin@... writes:

>> One of our former babysitters is the girlfriend of Nick  Sheriden the
crappy QB. <<

Is she hot? If the skinny Tate Forcier  gets injured Sheridan will be the
starter again. Can you imagine Penn State  starting a season with a walk-on
as the second-string QB? Fans would be beside  themselves.




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_http://www.yourplum.com/plumadvanceleader/article/morelli-returns-wpial-foo
tball-field-plum-qb-coach_
(http://www.yourplum.com/plumadvanceleader/article/morelli-returns-wpial-footbal\
l-field-plum-qb-coach)

Jerry Lorow (class of '85)


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http://tinyurl.com/Clips-RoysterDoakWalkerNelson

Penn State Proud, Trader Kevin

Not bad from an OSU write-up.

http://uweekly.com/newsmag/08-05-2009/11950


Dave Kroll  Penn State Proud


DB2 and IMS from Soup 2 Nuts Support

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On Aug 5, 2009, at 9:36 AM, Trader Kevin wrote:

> Can you imagine Penn State starting a season with a walk-on as the
> second-string QB? Fans would be beside themselves.

Don't you think there is a very real chance that McGloin will be 2nd
team ahead of true frosh Newsome? It may not happen, but the
possibility exists.  Either way, I won't be beside myself. I'll wait
until Iowa or Illinois hands Clark his next concussion.

OB



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...and fwiw Michigan fans need to cut Sheridan some slack. He joined the
Michigan team because he wanted to learn about coaching -- never expected to be
anything but practice fodder. And then got pressed into duty and did the best he
could. But he is not a Division 1 quarterback -- he's just a smart guy who loves
the game.

...Not that I would mind one bit if Sheridan is the starter by the time Michigan
meets PSU.



--- In We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com, thelorow@... wrote:
>
> We're pretty close to having our backup being a walk-on, with McGloin. He
> was number 2 at the Blue-White game.
>
> Jerry Lorow (class of '85)
>
>
> In a message dated 8/5/2009 10:37:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> cbot_kevin@... writes:
>
> >> One of our former babysitters is the girlfriend of Nick  Sheriden the
> crappy QB. <<
>
> Is she hot? If the skinny Tate Forcier  gets injured Sheridan will be the
> starter again. Can you imagine Penn State  starting a season with a walk-on
> as the second-string QB? Fans would be beside  themselves.
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Wonderful first person piece by Paul Jones at pennstate.scout.com

What a leader. He breaks his ankle and decides to use it as an opportunity to
work hard over the summer and graduate early -- and he'd be the first kid ever
at his high school to manage that. I'm sure he wants to get in and really
compete with Newsome for the 2010 starting job.

Wow, Penn State football sure has come a long way from the days when the
heralded starting quarterback refused to come to State College over the summer
to work out with the receivers because he didn't want to miss beach time with
his buddies in New Jersey.

This new generation is pretty impressive some times.

On Aug 5, 2009, at 12:15 PM, Tom Boyer wrote:

> ..and fwiw Michigan fans need to cut Sheridan some slack. He joined
> the Michigan team because he wanted to learn about coaching -- never
> expected to be anything but practice fodder. And then got pressed
> into duty and did the best he could. But he is not a Division 1
> quarterback -- he's just a smart guy who loves the game.

I think you make a very good point. Sometimes fans (myself included)
tend to blame poor game performance strictly on the athlete himself.
I know I did that to Morelli. But your point that some guys are just
not Div. 1 talents is accurate.

When some athletes are placed in situations beyond their ability level
(I would put Matt Senneca, Dayle Tate, and Mike Cooper in this
category), fans like me should be more tolerant.  I hope I can
remember this post when I watch opponents throw for 400 yards on our
inexperienced secondary this fall.

OB

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On Aug 5, 2009, at 12:22 PM, Tom Boyer wrote:

> Wow, Penn State football sure has come a long way from the days when
> the heralded starting quarterback refused to come to State College
> over the summer to work out with the receivers because he didn't
> want to miss beach time with his buddies in New Jersey.

Are you referring to one of the Saccas? Tom Bill? I'm forgetting any
other starter from NJ.

OB

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>
> When some athletes are placed in situations beyond their ability level

(I would put Matt Senneca, Dayle Tate, and Mike Cooper in this

category), fans like me should be more tolerant. I hope I can

remember this post when I watch opponents throw for 400 yards on our

inexperienced secondary this fall.


OB

400 yards against our D?  You could be right. Although, I am thinking more
along the lines of they start taking safties once they get the lead.
10-----3 and outs in a row could lead to some pretty hefty numbers against
the D though. and of course, they would then get "tired".

we were already pretty pitiful when iowa started taking the safeties in our
6-4 loss. recently we have been winning, so they might like the opportunity
to run it up on us. on the other hand, we managed to lose weekly while
holding all opponents under 21.

the over/under on wins is 9.5 during the regular season. if you read the
pre-season crap you might be thinking over 9.5 is a lock boys. get down.

bd

--
Bob DeMarco
http://alzheimersreadingroom.com


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started the day off with this hot piece of inside skinny on how penn state
incompetence cost evan royster a spot on the Doak Walker list
http://www.pennstateclips.com/2009/08/updating-penn-states-evan-royster-not.html

then came in with some good Penn State PR
Recruiting: Strong Penn State presence on ESPNU
150<http://www.pennstateclips.com/2009/08/strong-penn-state-presence-on-espnu-15\
0.html>
http://www.pennstateclips.com/2009/08/strong-penn-state-presence-on-espnu-150.ht\
ml

never one to miss a chance to diss the Big Least

Big East commissioner publicly begs Penn State to join
conference<http://www.pennstateclips.com/2009/08/big-east-commissioner-begs-penn\
-state.html>
http://www.pennstateclips.com/2009/08/big-east-commissioner-begs-penn-state.html
and the day isn't even over yet.

Salempart


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Option Bob:

>> Don't you think there is a very real chance that McGloin will be 2nd team
ahead of true frosh Newsome? <<

Barring an injury? No, no chance.

Penn State Proud, Trader Kevin

I'm talking about Tony Sacca, and I think I'm recalling accurately from
Denlinger's book. Paterno spent extended periods of time furious with TS because
he was just a fun loving guy who wouldn't buckle down. At one point, trying to
get his attention, Joe screamed at him on the practice field that he was the
biggest bust in college football history.

TS became a very solid QB his senior year as we all know. If he'd had the work
ethic of a Clark or Newsome or Jones, goodness knows what kind of career he
could have had. The lost redshirt year was also important -- Sacca of all people
could have used that freshman year to do a little more growing up.


--- In We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com, Robert Trigilio <rjtrig@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Aug 5, 2009, at 12:22 PM, Tom Boyer wrote:
>
> > Wow, Penn State football sure has come a long way from the days when
> > the heralded starting quarterback refused to come to State College
> > over the summer to work out with the receivers because he didn't
> > want to miss beach time with his buddies in New Jersey.
>
> Are you referring to one of the Saccas? Tom Bill? I'm forgetting any
> other starter from NJ.
>
> OB
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

http://www.playersvoice.com/latest/top-10-superstar-states.html

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What is the purpose of this list? Just to drive traffic to your revenue
generating site????

----- "Bob DeMarco" <rtdemarco@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>

started the day off with this hot piece of inside skinny on how penn state
> incompetence cost evan royster a spot on the Doak Walker list
>
http://www.pennstateclips.com/2009/08/updating-penn-states-evan-royster-not.html
>
> then came in with some good Penn State PR
> Recruiting: Strong Penn State presence on ESPNU
> 150<
http://www.pennstateclips.com/2009/08/strong-penn-state-presence-on-espnu-150.ht\
ml >
>
http://www.pennstateclips.com/2009/08/strong-penn-state-presence-on-espnu-150.ht\
ml
>
> never one to miss a chance to diss the Big Least
>
> Big East commissioner publicly begs Penn State to join
> conference<
http://www.pennstateclips.com/2009/08/big-east-commissioner-begs-penn-state.html
>
>
http://www.pennstateclips.com/2009/08/big-east-commissioner-begs-penn-state.html
> and the day isn't even over yet.
>
> Salempart

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Hey, we never quibbled when it came time to pony up to keep the hamsters
running inside your old server... ok, well maybe some of us did.

besides, he quoted Frank Zappa...

Jim Hauze '74

BTW, I have given up looking for something in FL and am now instead looking
at State College, just something small to maybe house my kid and a buddy or
two for a couple of years while I write off interest and depreciation. If
we find the right place, maybe I will retire there and work in the BJC on
the greeting committee or some such.

On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:58:00 +0000 (UTC), ImPoster <impnst8r@...>
wrote:
> What is the purpose of this list? Just to drive traffic to your revenue
> generating site????
>

doesn't matter to penn state. we rely on the vaccination approach.
bd

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 2:50 PM, ImPoster <impnst8r@...> wrote:

>
>
> http://www.playersvoice.com/latest/top-10-superstar-states.html
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>



--
Bob DeMarco
http://alzheimersreadingroom.com


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trying to lead the camel to water. drink? up to the camel.
bd

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 2:58 PM, ImPoster <impnst8r@...> wrote:

>
>
> What is the purpose of this list? Just to drive traffic to your revenue
> generating site????
>
> ----- "Bob DeMarco" <rtdemarco@... <rtdemarco%40gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> started the day off with this hot piece of inside skinny on how penn state
> > incompetence cost evan royster a spot on the Doak Walker list
> >
>
http://www.pennstateclips.com/2009/08/updating-penn-states-evan-royster-not.html
> >
> > then came in with some good Penn State PR
> > Recruiting: Strong Penn State presence on ESPNU
> > 150<
>
http://www.pennstateclips.com/2009/08/strong-penn-state-presence-on-espnu-150.ht\
ml>
> >
>
http://www.pennstateclips.com/2009/08/strong-penn-state-presence-on-espnu-150.ht\
ml
> >
> > never one to miss a chance to diss the Big Least
> >
> > Big East commissioner publicly begs Penn State to join
> > conference<
>
http://www.pennstateclips.com/2009/08/big-east-commissioner-begs-penn-state.html\
>
> >
>
http://www.pennstateclips.com/2009/08/big-east-commissioner-begs-penn-state.html
> > and the day isn't even over yet.
> >
> > Salempart
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>



--
Bob DeMarco
http://alzheimersreadingroom.com


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Thanks, Tom. I can tell you first-hand that he is a fine young man from a very
strong family. His younger siblings look up to him, and PJ is very family
oriented. Whether or not he ever wins a National Championship, he is one of
those young men, like MRob, Poz, Clark, Lee, etc., who will be respected by his
teammates, and of whom we will all be proud.



Rocko

 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Boyer" <tboyer@...>
To: "We Are Penn State" <We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 1:22:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [We Are...Penn State] Paul Jones -- a lion in the best sense.

 




Wonderful first person piece by Paul Jones at pennstate.scout.com

What a leader. He breaks his ankle and decides to use it as an opportunity to
work hard over the summer and graduate early -- and he'd be the first kid ever
at his high school to manage that. I'm sure he wants to get in and really
compete with Newsome for the 2010 starting job.

Wow, Penn State football sure has come a long way from the days when the
heralded starting quarterback refused to come to State College over the summer
to work out with the receivers because he didn't want to miss beach time with
his buddies in New Jersey.

This new generation is pretty impressive some times.




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http://twitter.com/pennstatesports

--
Bob DeMarco
http://alzheimersreadingroom.com


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we playing this year? if so, count me in.
bd

--
Bob DeMarco
http://alzheimersreadingroom.com


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Jim,

What happened to AIG yesterday?

Dave Kroll  Penn State Proud
DB2 and IMS from Soup 2 Nuts Support

256-544-1462    (-Office-)
210-827-1382    (-Cell-)
256-325-6952    (-Home-)
From: We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hauze
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 2:09 PM
To: We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [We Are...Penn State] Wowie Zowie How great is Penn State Clips
Today!



Hey, we never quibbled when it came time to pony up to keep the hamsters
running inside your old server... ok, well maybe some of us did.

besides, he quoted Frank Zappa...

Jim Hauze '74

BTW, I have given up looking for something in FL and am now instead looking
at State College, just something small to maybe house my kid and a buddy or
two for a couple of years while I write off interest and depreciation. If
we find the right place, maybe I will retire there and work in the BJC on
the greeting committee or some such.

On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:58:00 +0000 (UTC), ImPoster
<impnst8r@...<mailto:impnst8r%40comcast.net>>
wrote:
> What is the purpose of this list? Just to drive traffic to your revenue
> generating site????
>



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Dave Kroll:

>> What happened to AIG yesterday? <<

Massive short covering rally. They did a 1-for-20 reverse stock split last month
and the bears have painfully discovered that the float has been significantly
reduced.

Same thing is happening to Georgia Gulf Corporation (GGC) which did a 1:25
reverse split last week.

Penn State Proud, Trader Kevin

I'm talking about Tony Sacca, and I think I'm recalling accurately from
Denlinger's book. Paterno spent extended periods of time furious with TS
because he was just a fun loving guy who wouldn't buckle down. At one
point, trying to get his attention, Joe screamed at him on the practice
field that he was the biggest bust in college football history.

TS became a very solid QB his senior year as we all know. If he'd had the
work ethic of a Clark or Newsome or Jones, goodness knows what kind of
career he could have had. The lost redshirt year was also important --
Sacca of all people could have used that freshman year to do a little more
growing up
-----------------
Well booze was definitely one of Tony Sacca's problems.
I met hm at a tailgate after a game, and he was drinking straight from his
own personal bottle of JD.  It was about half gone.

I actually thought you were talking about Kerry Collins, not from NJ, but
did have the hand injury from beach volleyball.

Mark

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ImPoster:

>> I believe this to be right. Engle was 3-0 versus Woody . And all were in
Columbus. <<

Yes, that's correct: http://tinyurl.com/RipVsWoody

Penn State Proud, Trader Kevin

Thanks Trader... Jim and I bought some at discount rates.



Dave Kroll  Penn State Proud
DB2 and IMS from Soup 2 Nuts Support

256-544-1462    (-Office-)
210-827-1382    (-Cell-)
256-325-6952    (-Home-)
From: We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Trader Kevin
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 7:53 AM
To: We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [We Are...Penn State] OT: AIG get ready for football season?



Dave Kroll:

>> What happened to AIG yesterday? <<

Massive short covering rally. They did a 1-for-20 reverse stock split last month
and the bears have painfully discovered that the float has been significantly
reduced.

Same thing is happening to Georgia Gulf Corporation (GGC) which did a 1:25
reverse split last week.

Penn State Proud, Trader Kevin



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Thanks, Tom. I can tell you first-hand that he is a fine young man from a
very strong family. His younger siblings look up to him, and PJ is very
family oriented. Whether or not he ever wins a National Championship, he
is one of those young men, like MRob, Poz, Clark, Lee, etc., who will be
respected by his teammates, and of whom we will all be proud.

Rocko
--------------
And we can all hope that the rest of this 'vaccinated' brood reaches the
same athletic heights as PJ.  If so, this could be another Collins story

Mark

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Dave Kroll:

>> What happened to AIG yesterday? <<

Massive short covering rally. They did a 1-for-20 reverse stock split last
month and the bears have painfully discovered that the float has been
significantly reduced.

Same thing is happening to Georgia Gulf Corporation (GGC) which did a 1:25
reverse split last week.

Penn State Proud, Trader Kevin
-----------------
Hey Kevin & bobby D and others:
What percentage of reverse splits are successful?  In my experience, not
many.

Mark

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ImPoster:

>> 1956 at #5 Ohio State Columbus, OH W 7-6
1963 at #10 Ohio State Columbus, OH W 10-7
1964 at #2 Ohio State Columbus, OH W 27-0

I believe this to be right. Engle was 3-0 versus Woody. And all were in
Columbus. <<

When you copy-and-paste someone else's work you should give them attribution
rather than implying it's your own research. You are engaging in plagiarism.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=157&f=1395&t=4563818

Penn State Proud, Trader Kevin