In 1980 Michigan lost their first two non-con games, then
won the last eight to capture the Big Ten title before
beating Washington in the Rose Bowl.

In 1988 Michigan lost their first two games, then closed
out the season with an 8-0-1 run to win the Big Ten before
beating Southern Cal in the Rose Bowl.

In 1998 Michigan lost their first two games, then won nine
of their next ten to win a share of the Big Ten
Championship. They capped the season by defeating Arkansas
in the Citrus Bowl.

In 2007 Michigan lost their first two games...

http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/Michigan.htm#1998

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--- In We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com, <rjtrig@...> wrote:
>
> The offense isn't THAT bad. We're just 1 or 2 athletes away.
>
> OB
>

Walter Payton and John Elway?

I'm really willing to give the offense until the Big Ten opener.  I
think Andrew Quarless will be a difference maker.  I think he was one
last year in the final 4+ games.

They are different teams, obviously, but the 2005 team never got on
track offensively until the Minnesota game.  We all had our chins in
our hands during the South Florida game.  We groaned at the turnovers
during the Northwestern game.  Even after the fourth down pass to
Smolko and TD pass to Williams to escape NW, we were really down on
the offense.

The problem this year is we haven't faced anyone.  Same goes for
defense.  People are ready to coronate this unit.  I'll reserve
judgment until they've faced some Big Ten allowance.  People have
continually said that Michigan's problem in the first two game is a
lack of speed on defense.  I'd like to see how our D-line holds up
against an O-line that's built for the Big Ten like Michigan, Iowa
and Wisconsin.  I'm afraid after FIU, ND and Buffalo we'll have no
indication of how good the defense will be.

Steve 1993

well, when UM needed a QB to replace Henne (from PA, of course) it had no
problem coming into Texas to get the best one. Wasn't the Clemon WR kid a super
stud, too?

Michigan will continue to get more of who it wants that not ... especially when
Les Miles takes over in January.

OB
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Tom Boyer
   To: we_are_penn_state@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 6:55 AM
   Subject: [We Are...Penn State] Michigan talent (lack of it) from the BWI board


   This from Marsh Creek Eagle of the BWI board. It was interesting enough that
   I thought it was worth passing along in its entirety. He tends to overstate
   his case sometimes but I think his point is good.

   If Michigan's recruiting is in trouble, the rise of some other programs has
   undoubtedly played a role. 10 years ago Michigan was pulling stars by the
   dozen out of Texas and California. Now USC and Texas now beat Michigan for
   recruits in the southwest and west. LSU is keeping its recruits home. Ohio
   State locks up its home territory now -- for a Charles Woodson to go from
   central Ohio to Michigan now would be unthinkable. Wisconsin, Iowa and even
   Minnesota hold on to their in-state stars better than ever. There's always
   talent in Fla. but more good programs competing for it than ever before.

   People sometimes lament that PSU doesn't recruit nationally, but maybe
   Michigan (and Notre Dame) illustrate the weakness of that approach.
   Geography matters. All other things being equal, most recruits want to be
   within driving distance of home so their families and friends can see them
   play. When Michigan was playing in the Rose Bowl and PSU was suffering
   losing seasons, there were things to outweigh geography. But with Michigan
   mired in mediocrity, they become a tough sell. The frenzy of the Beav these
   days may even outweigh the tradition of the Big House in recruit's minds.
   And the plain uniforms are easily as cool as the Michigan helmets.

   ----------------------------------------------------------
   Mich's big problem on D? Striking out on National recruits

   I wrote this in another thread, but I thought it deserved its own place on
   this message board.

   What is Michigan's biggest problem right now? They have struck out over and
   over and over again with the Florida, Texas, California, Pennsylvania and
   other national recruits they have spent so much time going after.

   True, they are forced to go after national recruits, but when they can't
   land them they are stuck. And right now they are stuck worse than a pig at
   at a Hawaiian Thanksgiving Feast.

   When Michigan lost out on Justin King, they wound up with Brandon Harrison
   and Johnny Sears. When Michigan lost out several national DT recruits, they
   wound up with Greg Banks. When Michigan lost out on guys like Dan Connor and
   Marcus Freeman they wound up with Obi Ezeh.

   Michigan right now has far too many guys that were not even plan B guys, but
   plan C guys. They might have had the plan B guys had they paid attention to
   them, but they don't. Their "all in" approach with the national recruits has
   a deep dark downside to it, and they are in it right now.

   Here is a list of stiffs - STIFFS - that Michigan has signed on defense in
   recent years:

   Will Johnson - to be fair, he did suffer an acl tear, but he was mediocre
   anyway

   Roger Allison - he's gone

   Morgan Trent - super fast, but he's marginal in coverage and can't tackle

   Charles Stewart - safety, would not play here at Penn State but he starts
   for Michigan

   Mike Massey - on ability alone would be 3rd team here

   Johnny Thompson - takes horrible angles, doesn't tackle well, he'd have no
   prayer of playing here right now because he's just slow

   Chris Rogers - transferred to PSU, deep reserve here

   Tim Jaimeson isn't a total stiff, but hardly a playmaker either. he wouldn't
   start here at PSU

   James McKinney and Eugene Germany aren't even there any more

   Chris Richards and Johnny Sears are probably the two worst CB's they have
   recruited in years

   Marques Slocum - he can play a little, but can he get on the field?

   Brandon Harrison - he got slower at Michigan, not good when you are a 5-8
   cornerback

   Brandon Graham - starting DE. Not a playmaker, gets run over half the time.

   Chris McLaurin - gone

   Cobrani Mixon and Quentin Patilla are a pair of slow LB's who are out of
   their program now, but they'd never have played anyway.

   John Ferrara - Marc Keilmeyer clone, you figure it out. But yet this guy has
   to play a LOT right now in his 2nd year on campus because they have nobody
   better.

   Obi Ezeh, LB, and Greg Banks, DE - things are so bad in A2 that these two
   guys start on that defense. They are both young and only one of the two has
   been arrested so far, so there is hope for their 4th and 5th year that they
   might be decent.

   Jason Kates - ACCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK. You have to be friggin'
   kidding me.

   Keston Cheatem - wasn't a player to begin with. kicked off team

   Ryan Mundy - transferred to West Virginia

   Brandent Englemon - ACK, and he's starts for them!

   Shawn Crable - all airport guy, mediocre game to go with his good looks.

   Doug Dutch - converted from WR, he never even plays. I stated loud and clear
   a few years ago that this guy was a stiff who would never start at this
   level.

   Austin Panter - they are so bad that this guy is backing up two LB
   spots!!!!!! ACCKKKKKKKKKK.

   These are the majority of the defensive players that Michigan has that are
   not true freshmen. Most of these guys would have trouble starting at mid
   level Big10 programs.

   I have to chuckle. I used to write that little list of Tom Beaver's "Best
   Guess" guys, and Michigan would invariably strike out on most of them. Then
   Beaver would try to shine a turd when Michigan would offer some guy in mid
   January and he'd try and fool all their fans into thinking the guy was a
   stud.

   Their defense is a joke right now - a couple of decent youngsters mixed in
   with a lot of non players, and this is a MULTI YEAR PROBLEM for them. Their
   2007 defense might be worse than the one we had in 2001, they are that bad.

   Michigan has already started playing true freshmen, witness Donovan Warren
   starting (and making mistakes) against Oregon, and this will become a trend
   for that program over the next few years as they try to climb back to
   respectability with that defense.

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The offense isn't THAT bad. We're just 1 or 2 athletes away.

OB
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Trader Kevin
   To: We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:41 AM
   Subject: Re: [We Are...Penn State] Bradley should be next Nits' head coach


   slevie:

   >> This is disturbing in light of recent incentive remarks
   attributed to Scrap by one of his players--something about
   midgets and urinating. Next we'll find out he's an
   anti-dentite. <<

   Worse are the persistent rumors about him abusing young
   men. Witness what he did to J.C. Superstar on Saturday. And
   what about the mental torture St. Jimmy's family had to
   endure?

   If/when Bradley becomes the next head coach it will be
   interesting to see what direction the offense takes. Does
   he clean house, bringing in a real O-line coach and some
   sharp minds committed to the Rule of 28? How pissed off do
   you think he was when Morelli threw that Pick Six on
   Saturday?

   I'm still chuckling about David Jones commentary on our
   offense: "The question Penn State fans should be asking
   themselves is, how much can one side of the PSU team
   continue to be expected to contribute while the other side
   leeches it like a welfare cheat?"

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Since either 1969 ... or 2006. take your pick.

OB
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Tom Boyer
   To: We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:15 AM
   Subject: [We Are...Penn State] Connor POW


   Connor is B10 defensive player of the week and also Walter Camp
   national defensive POW.

   Penn State may well have two of the nation's top 5 linebackers this
   year. How long has it been since that was true?





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In a message dated 9/11/2007 6:07:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
cbot_kevin@... writes:

Reports are that 5-star wideout Deion Walker (6-3, 185) had
a  excellent official visit this past weekend and we are in
great shape with  him.




if we had hired someone like jumbo fisher to head our offense we  would be
getting the mother load of recruits this year. like urban  meyer and pete
carroll.

i don't care what anybody says, we have the best fans in college football,
period. you know that a 17-18 year experiences that and the hair stands up on
the back of his neck. they gotta be higher then high.

of course then they finally get to meet galen hall. hall has one admirer in
the entire universe and that guy has used up his eligibility, dave kroll.

and even though we are the best the atmosphere is pretty dame good at the
other schools. so we are failing to exploit our edge.

we gotta get with it. this could really be our time.

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In a message dated 9/11/2007 5:15:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
cbot_kevin@... writes:

You  know how baseball players used to put donuts on their
bat when warming up  in the on-deck circle? (Maybe they
still do.) The theory was that the bat  would feel lighter
when they took off the donut. Makes sense, no? Turns  out
what they were REALLY doing was teaching their muscles to
move more  slowly. Not the optimal training for hitting a
fastball.

Penn State  Proud, Trader Kevin




lol. i remember i was at a game with my father in 1960 or so.

tony taylor came up and he made the sign of the cross as he stepped in to
hit. i asked my father why he did that. my father said, it doesn't matter, if he
  can't hit that won't help him.

BD



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Reports are that 5-star wideout Deion Walker (6-3, 185) had
a excellent official visit this past weekend and we are in
great shape with him.

STRENGTHS
Hands and Concentration
Size
Speed

AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT
Blocking Ability

Walker has very good size, good speed, and super hands.
Walker is tough in the air, shows excellent concentration,
and has great field awareness. He will go over the middle,
take the short pass and make you miss and beat you deep. In
the open field he shows good quickness and change of
direction. Defensively, Walker has a real knack for going
to get the ball. He can play zone or play man. He has fluid
hips and the ability to turn and run.

http://pennstate.scout.com/a.z?s=157&p=8&c=1&nid=2953801





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Scott Eisensmith:

>> MRob would NOT have lost to USC or Texas that year as we
(folks say we when they have actually attended the school)
were the better team. <<

Did you actually watch any college football in September of
2005? We would have gotten smoked by USC or Texas. (Fans
say "our" and "we" even if they didn't attend the school in
question.) And I'm glad we didn't play either of them in
the BCS Championship game because it would have been ugly.

>> Study up on your training techniques. <<

You know how baseball players used to put donuts on their
bat when warming up in the on-deck circle? (Maybe they
still do.) The theory was that the bat would feel lighter
when they took off the donut. Makes sense, no? Turns out
what they were REALLY doing was teaching their muscles to
move more slowly. Not the optimal training for hitting a
fastball.

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--- In We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com, eisensms@... wrote:
>
> Normally, PSU isn't big on getting kids from Junior colleges.
> Are  Nerraw McCormack and Ako Poti making a difference?
>
> What's up with that J.B. Walton fellow?  I thought he would be
> in there by now.
>

They're busy working on the scout team getting Chris Mauriello, Greg
Miskinis, and Nick Pinchek ready for the live bullets in Ann Arbor.

Geez, Rome wasn't built in a day.

Steve 1993

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> I disagree with this as a blanket statement. I thought the
> 2005 non-con schedule (South Florida, Cincinnati, and
> Centreal Michigan) was perfect FOR THAT TEAM. It allowed
> them to have some success, build some confidence, and have
> some momentum heading to the Big Ten season. It was a
> classic Paterno team that was better in the last half of
> the season than it was in the first half. I think it would
> have hindered the development of MRob & Company if they'd
> gotten waxed in September by USC, Texas, etc.
>
> Penn State Proud, Trader Kevin

Once again, Kev, you got it wrong.  MRob would NOT have lost
to USC or Texas that year as we (folks say we when they have
actually attended the school) were the better team.

Study up on your training techniques.  I doubt that players get
stronger in the weight room by playing with lesser weights like
FIU, Buffalo, or Temple.  They get stronger by playing with the
Heavy weights.  Maybe ask a Marine like Dave about getting
stronger in training.  I don't think it is by having those guys
carry around the 5 pound fanny packs.

So Kevin is thinking that Temple keeps the same players over
the Decades??  I can see why you drove Bobby D to drinking and
chasing women at his frail old age ...

> Temple has spent DECADES playing teams that are "much
> better" than they are. By your "logic" Temple should be
> very, very, very strong by now. They should be NFL strong.
>
> Penn State Proud, Trader Kevin

>> Florida is one of the only sec teams that doesent play a
tough non-schedule. <<

On the other hand, they end every regular season with F$U.

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Florida Is out of the question.  I live about 1 hour south of Gainsville and
they dont play anyone north of the mason dixon line.  Florida is one of the only
sec teams that doesent play a tough non-schedule,.

ORIGINET@... wrote:
In a message dated 9/11/2007 11:08:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
eisensms@... writes:

>> Again, who could we have scheduled besides Notre Dame that would have met
your standards? USC, LSU, and Oklahoma? <<

We should schedule teams like Rutgers, West Virigina, Georgia, Florida, etc.

for our three out of conference slaughters we should play FAU, FIU, and
Lynne. Lynne isn't much but they recruit babes from all over the world. by the
way, it was called Marymount but MR. Lynne ponyed up the dough for the name
change. its in boca raton.

this way we could get good PR in florida and maybe pick off one of those
small but hyper fast tough running backs and a tall wideout. maybe a jerome
brown once in a while.

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From Jeff Rice's live blog on JoePa presser:? <<Said that Andrew Quarless and
Willie Harriott have satisfied the terms of their punishment and will both "have
a chance to play this week." If they don't, Paterno said, it won't be for
disciplinary reasons.>>

Also, Shaw has a bad knee but expects him to play some.

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Centre Daily Times; Sept. 11, 2007
No Bull:? Buffalo Likely To Struggle?



The last time Turner Gill visited Beaver Stadium, his team was able to run the
football successfully against Penn State.


Unfortunately for Gill -- then Nebraska's quarterbacks coach -- those 252 yards
on the ground didn't help the Cornhuskers in a 40-7 loss to the Nittany Lions in
2002.

Saturday, Gill returns to University Park, this time at the head of a Buffalo
program trying to climb out of the Division I-A basement. And no one is running
for much of anything on the current Penn State defense, which has allowed a net
minus-3 yards rushing in its first two games.



Here's what to expect from the last team Penn State will play before opening its
Big Ten season.



Offense



Gill, in his second season at Buffalo, replaced Gerald Carr as offensive
coordinator during the offseason and hired longtime Canadian Football League
coach Danny Barrett to coach the quarterbacks.



Though ambling junior quarterback Drew Willy is in no danger of torching
offenses via the option, a la Gill, he is a career 60 percent passer who
completed 20 of 22 passes during last week's 42-7 win at Temple. Wideouts Ernest
Jackson (6-foot-2) and Brett Hamlin (6-1), with eight catches apiece, have been
his favorite targets to this point.


Mario Henry, a converted defensive back, has added burst to the running game.
The Erie native ran for 125 yards and a touchdown on 17 carries against the
Owls' porous defense. Four of the five starters on a huge offensive line started
last year.



Defense



Another former Husker standout, Jimmy Williams, coordinates a defense that was
100th in the nation in rushing defense last season (184.8 yards per game) and
was gashed for 235 yards rushing in the season-opening loss to speedster Ray
Rice and Rutgers.



The Nittany Lions should see a standard 4-3 this week. Senior defensive end
Trevor Scott has 11 sacks in his last 14 games, but the rest of the Buffalo
front is suspect and the linebacking corps, led by solid senior Ollice Ervin,
has been pieced together. Athletic safeties Kareem Byrom and Mike Newton have
had to make too many tackles.



Special teams



Senior punter Ben Woods has been solid so far (a 43.7-yard average on 10 kicks).
A.J. Principe, who made his only field goal attempt of the season against
Rutgers, is a true freshman.



Naaman Roosevelt, a wide receiver who doubles as the team's backup quarterback,
is a better kickoff and punt returner than he has shown this season.



Skinny



Buffalo probably isn't as bad as it showed in the 38-3 loss to Rutgers or as
good as it was against hapless Temple. Henry is an upgrade at tailback but
hasn't seen a front seven like the one Penn State will line up. Buffalo's front
seven is ill-equipped to shut down the Nittany Lions' running game or -- with
the possible exception of Scott -- provide much pressure on quarterback Anthony
Morelli. The Nittany Lions will look to take some momentum into Ann Arbor and
they should get it against the Bulls.

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LLLLoyd Carr: "He's in good spirits. He's disappointed. But
I think he'll come back quicker than most."

I wonder if his recovery will be SEC quick or just Big Ten
quick.

Penn State Proud, Trader Kevin





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Scott Eisensmith:

>> You only get stronger playing against an opponent who is
much better than you are!! <<

Trader Kevin:

>> Then Temple should be the strongest team in college
football.

Scott Eisensmith:

>> Hmmm...not by playing Buffalo. I said that they will get
stronger. <<

Temple has spent DECADES playing teams that are "much
better" than they are. By your "logic" Temple should be
very, very, very strong by now. They should be NFL strong.

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From: We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Trader Kevin
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 11:05 PM
To: We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [We Are...Penn State] PSU -90 first three games

Dave Kroll:

>> It looks like my 90 points offer is going to be a
winner. The current sum is 90-10. <<

Oh, geez, I forgot all about that. I'm ecstatic to have
lost, how much do I owe you?

I wouldn't have bet if I'd known Notre Dame was going to
get pounded by GaTech. I assumed a point spread for the ND
game of 8-9, making under 90 a hugely +EV wager. At -17 it
was about break-even.

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-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Trader Kevin <cbot_kevin@...>

>> You only get stronger playing against an opponent who is much better than you
are!! <<

> Then Temple should be the strongest team in college
> football.

Hmmm...not by playing Buffalo. I said that they will get stronger. I won my PSU
dorm Chess championship, but that doesn't mean that I can beat Dave K, yet. If
Dave K lost 5 pounds each week, you still would not call him a thin man at the
end of the football season.

Since this is primarily a conservation/energy group now, I thought I would
forward on this link that my father just sent me.

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Scott Eisensmith:

>> You only get stronger playing against an opponent who is
much better than you are!! The PSU team gains nothing from
scrimmaging against Buffalo and FIU. This year's team would
be so much further along in their development had they
scheduled some teams like Nebraska (USC is not afraid of
them), Washington (tOSU is using them as a Springboard for
another Big 10 championship), or even Texas. <<

I disagree with this as a blanket statement. I thought the
2005 non-con schedule (South Florida, Cincinnati, and
Centreal Michigan) was perfect FOR THAT TEAM. It allowed
them to have some success, build some confidence, and have
some momentum heading to the Big Ten season. It was a
classic Paterno team that was better in the last half of
the season than it was in the first half. I think it would
have hindered the development of MRob & Company if they'd
gotten waxed in September by USC, Texas, etc.

Penn State Proud, Trader Kevin





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Scott Eisensmith:

>> You only get stronger playing against an opponent who is
much better than you are!! <<

Then Temple should be the strongest team in college
football.

>> The PSU team gains nothing from scrimmaging against
Buffalo and FIU. <<

And yet every big team schedules two or three games like
that.

>> This year's team would be so much further along in their
development had they scheduled some teams like Nebraska
(USC is not afraid of them), Washington (tOSU is using them
as a Springboard for another Big 10 championship), or even
Texas. <<

Did you know Notre Dame is part of our non-con schedule?
Did you know we've got Alabama on the horizon?

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From: We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of B. Gates
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:27 PM
To: We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [We Are...Penn State] More high-quality ND game video,
Steve Jones announcing


Did anyone tape the PSU Football Story?
Would like to see it. Thought I had set the VCR to tape, but
I suspect the children pulled the tape to watch something else.
Thanks.

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Just my thoughts...

Q back for Mich.
Sunday cleaning stops after the Buffalo game if they win at Mich.

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[mailto:We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Boyer
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:39 PM
To: We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [We Are...Penn State] Re: Really good news coming in two weeks!

Scott, I don't know who you'd mean. Still tore an ACL so he's got to
be done for the year. Koroma fractured his leg -- I saw somewhere it
was a stress fracture. Those babies are not fast to heal.

I doubt Quarless plays much the first half of the season. It wasn't
just drinking, it's that he sneaked out on a curfew night the last
week of preseason practice. That's a really critical time, and it
suggests Quarless really doesn't (or didn't) get what football is
about at this level.

Penn State now finally has enough talent that they don't have to play
kids who aren't committed to winning -- even if they are as talented
as Quarless. If Shuler can do a credible job, Quarless will have a
tough time getting on the field very much -- and that may be the
feeling of the players just as much as the coaches.

I hope he does make it back for later in the season because Morelli
obviously likes throwing to him.

--- In We_Are_Penn_State@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:We_Are_Penn_State%40yahoogroups.com> , eisensms@... wrote:
>
> It is my understanding that 2 or 3 very good players will be back on
the Defense and Quarless will be available to the Offense for the big
game in two weeks.
>



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The key to the PSU at Mich game is who each is playing this week. We are
playing Buffalo, a team we will beat by 50 points and Mich is playing
Notre Dame... It could be a 0-0 tie at the half but they will have
worked hard for it. Mich will play first string the entire game. Those
ND thugs will lay out the Mich FB and maybe whoever else is holding them
from the QB.

Out first string will be out in the second qtr.

We'll come in fresh from cleaning up the stadium (the last time if they
beat Mich).

Dave Kroll :D Penn State Proud
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In a message dated 9/11/2007 11:13:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
ORIGINET@... writes:

Michigan Stadium: 109,733
Beaver Stadium: 110,078

how much  does a standing room only ticket cost?


--
Actually, I believe there are no standing room only tickets. If I am  wrong,
someone please correct me. In the NCAA, one counts football attendees by  the
total number of human beings at the game.  That includes reporters,  recruits
and anyone else.  So the number goes up for big games.



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I was pretty sure, while watching the UofM game, that I saw a Michigan receiver
go over and kick a Oregon player right in the crotch.  Did that get any National
play?

Normally, PSU isn't big on getting kids from Junior colleges.
Are  Nerraw McCormack and Ako Poti making a difference?

What's up with that J.B. Walton fellow?  I thought he would be
in there by now.