The Buddhist nature of Wing Chun if cultivated properly does make
Wing Chun the ever so mysterious martial art it has become known
for. Yet the Buddhist ideals within Wing Chun are many times left in
shadow favoring only the martial applications within the art.

The cultivation of Qi is as nesessary a part of Wing Chun as proper
stance, and form. The Body, Mind, Heart connection of Qi must be
instilled and all cultivated equally, only then will the full
mystery of Wing Chun be reveiled.

If there is no need to shed the blood of an opponent then why
waste the energy. If we are efficient as warriors we have a choice
to be merciful if we so choose to be. If we must destroy to preserve
peace, so be it.

In studying this Buddha-nature connection within Wing Chun we come
to the understanding that the ultimate goal of cultivation is
health, peace of mind, and spiritual fullfillment.


"when cultivated effectively, Wing Chun is such a system of minute
movements which result in a grander outcome..."

Thanks Aiwei, Sifu Alan G, and Uriel


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In WW_WCKF@yahoogroups.com, "Uriel Wong" <uriel@...> wrote:
>
> I like the analogy. So in Buddhism the idea of a "still mind"
seems to
> parallel the concept of a "still body" in wing chun. Likely
the "still
> body" is more seen in taiji, "immovable as a mountain" idea, but
the idea of
> minimizing motion moves towards the same direction IMO.
>
> Basically if you can win the fight with the least amount of motion
you work
> towards the "still body" or unmoving body -- or wing chun's idea of
> minimizing motion.
>
> Ideal case is you win the fight without any movement. The next
grade up is
> you win the fight will a little movement... and so on.
>
> So I do see a nice parallel. Still mind -- still body. Mental
and physical
> parallels. If you body is not moving, there is little momentum
the oponent
> can take advantage of.
>
> I have done some studying of Buddhism, and for a time sought to
find deeper
> parallels that could help my wing chun technique -- more so as an
exercise
> to move outside of the box if you will. Haven't really thought
about it for
> some time now...
>
> Aloha,
> Uriel
>
>
> On 11/13/06, Yun Xing <yunxingpai@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes Sifu, understood.
> >
> > The idea I am placing here is the effect Wing Chun cultivation
has on the
> > mind. That is why I was describing much in this email. In Chan
Buddhism we
> > are to minimalize atachments to thoughts, desires, and
emotions,.. to a
> > point where the mind doesn't move. One is still in mind, which
basically
> > means there is nothing that will cause one to be disturbed, and
or catch
> > one's attention surpisingly, as well as not to have one have the
slightest
> > rise of sexual desire, anger, ignorance, greed.
> > The methods in Chan is to directly point to the mind and drop
all the
> > extras, which are the thoughts, desires, conditions, which cause
the mind to
> > attach, and one to believe all they experience is it, and
nothing else. We
> > call this illusions.
> > One can say that , from a Wing chun point of view, bigger
movements, large
> > stances, are seen as excessive, thus we can liken them to the
thoughts one
> > has during the day, to their emotional attachments to them, and
their
> > character created from the belief in the thoughts to reflect a
> > real...reality.
> > My idea is to see the manner of Wing Chun, which points to the
most
> > direct path to ones "destination", and utilize those manners for
cultivation
> > of the mind...more consciously. Wing Chun people have a
particularly special
> > manner of thinking, and seeing things. I am sure all of you
noticed that
> > your mind and mannerisms change after and during the practice of
Wing Chun.
> >
> > In Chan , the goal, just for the sake of saying goal, is to
reveal the
> > pure mind, and achieve enlightenment. In Wing Chun, the goal is
to drop big
> > cricular movements, (excessive), big movemnet of footwork
(excessive), and
> > point directly to the place of arrival(one's target). Since the
manners of
> > Wing Chun reflect manners of Chan Buddhism in the light of
dropping the
> > excessive, and utilizing the minimal, I believe that if this is
cultivated
> > consciously, there will be a more purer manner of mind.
> > This means utilizing Wing Chun in the manner of cultivating
the mind.
> > Drop all excessive mannerisms, : greed, anger,
ignorance...desire,
> > emotion...what happens is there is a moral character perceived
and that
> > leads to more humility in the WIng Chun community, less ego, and
less in
> > fighting...and it sets a reflection of those who practice Wing
Chun to be
> > more respectful to others, and in that, there will be better
> > fighters...since Wing Chun was manifested to be for fighting.
> >
> > I am taking a look at what had influenced Wing Chun's creation.
It is too
> > obvious that there is somehting more. And just like Chan, there
are few
> > great masters of Wing Chun. Because of Wing Chun's
effectiveness, even a
> > novice can look like a great fighter. But that still doesn't
change the
> > novice's mind, and character which will be more present to the
public than
> > his/her skill of Wing Chun.
> >
> > What do you all think??
> >
> > Peace,
> > Aiwei
> >
> > *净心园
> > Jing Xin Yuan
> > *
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> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Martial Arts Media Express <actionmarartmag@...>
> > To: Wing_Chun_Unification <Wing_Chun_Unification@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:03:21 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Wing_Chun_Unification] The ever Contraversial...
> >
> > 2 WORDS = Rapid Destruction
> >
> > Be a minimalist sifu Alan G
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Murray
> > Sent: Nov 13, 2006 1:42 AM
> > To: Wing_Chun_Unificati on@yahoogroups. com
> > Subject: Re: [Wing_Chun_Unificat ion] The ever Contraversial. ..
> >
> > interesting. ....very interesting. ......
> >
> > *Yun Xing <yunxingpai@yahoo. com>* wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I wanted to bring up the ever contraversial topic of Qi Gong in
Martial
> > Arts and its many influences on much of the postures we have
oversighted,
> > and or dismissed.. I know some even hold close to them.
> >
> > Since this is a Wing Chun group, we will stick to Wing Chun,
but make
> > reference to the other various "Internal" systems.
> >
> > I know there are many, lengthy books written about Wing Chun
and its
> > "Internal" gongfu mannerisms. I would be the first to say that
Wing Chun is
> > an all out system of martial arts based on physics, and Qi. I
would even be
> > the first to claim that both are eachother, and those two cannot
be
> > separated.
> > Some would protest that to make Wing Chun look like a mystical
manner of
> > martial arts is to destroy its realness, and use it to fool
others and make
> > money. I am sure many would agree with the disregarding of any
type of
> > "magickal" abilities claimed to be cultivated within the Wing
Chun system.
> > I would say, What if those abilities weren't seen as magickal
to the
> > masters in the earlier days of Wing Chun's manifestation? What
can we say if
> > we stood there all day long in Kim Yeung Ma, mindful of breath,
posture, and
> > Mind? Can anyone ..who has not done that at all, claim that
there is nothing
> > "Out of the ordinary" in Wing Chun cultivation?
> > And what is "out of the ordinary" but only what is not seen as
acceptable
> > by society....!
> >
> > So I give this idea....
> > Cultivation is the manner inwhich mind is purified, body
follows mind,
> > and the two are eventually not seen as one, but are undoubtedly
real and not
> > real, and not real and not not real. A place in between? but in
between
> > where?
> >
> > We will leave the mind cultivation out for now.
> >
> > In the past, masters of various manners of cultivation reached
levels of
> > mind way past the now mind of society. Those methods were not
told to
> > everyone due to people's moral, and virtue. Does that ring a
bell??? Think
> > about it... why is was Wing Chun given to a select few? I know
you all have
> > the answer.
> >
> > So, I am bringing up the mind, where we can see more of the
internal
> > manners of our postures in Wing Chun. I know many of you already
know this,
> > and there are Wing Chun schools that teach Qigong as part of
Wing Chun. I am
> > saying go deeper than just Qigong.
> >
> > I want to take this into a different realm. And I will probably
get
> > disregarded and laughed at for it. Which is fine. Presenting an
idea seen as
> > new and unusual usually results in such an outcome. With this
post, maybe we
> > can think for a moment as to why , when cultivated effectively,
Wing Chun is
> > such a system of minute movements to result in a grander
outcome... not easy
> > just to say physics... but there is something I have in mind,
and there is
> > reasoning for it.. and it comes from the influences on the
creators of Wing
> > Chun during its time of ...being worked to mastery.
> >
> > Peace,
> > Aiwei
> >
> >
> > *¾»ÐÄ�"°
> > Jing Xin Yuan
> > *
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