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 Hi All,
 
 I wanted to bring up the ever contraversial topic of Qi Gong in Martial Arts and its many influences on much of the postures we have oversighted, and or dismissed.. I know some even hold close to them.

 Since this is a Wing Chun group, we will stick to Wing Chun, but make reference to the other various "Internal" systems.
 
 I know there are many, lengthy books written about Wing Chun and its "Internal" gongfu mannerisms. I would be the first to say that Wing Chun is an all out system of martial arts based on physics, and Qi. I would even be the first to claim that both are eachother, and those two cannot be separated.
  Some would protest that to make Wing Chun look like a mystical manner of martial arts is to destroy its realness, and use it to fool others and make money. I am sure many would agree with the disregarding of any type of "magickal" abilities claimed to be cultivated within the Wing Chun system.
  I would say, What if those abilities weren't seen as magickal to the masters in the earlier days of Wing Chun's manifestation? What can we say if we stood there all day long in Kim Yeung Ma, mindful of breath, posture, and Mind? Can anyone ..who has not done that at all, claim that there is nothing "Out of the ordinary" in Wing Chun cultivation?
 And what is "out of the ordinary" but only what is not seen as acceptable by society....!

 So I give this idea....
  Cultivation is the manner inwhich mind is purified, body follows mind, and the two are eventually not seen as one, but are undoubtedly real and not real, and not real and not not real. A place in between?  but in between where?

 We will leave the mind cultivation out for now.

 In the past, masters of various manners of cultivation reached levels of mind way past the now mind of society. Those methods were not told to everyone due to people's moral, and virtue. Does that ring a bell???  Think about it... why is was Wing Chun given to a select few?  I know you all have the answer.

 So, I am bringing up the mind, where we can see more of the internal manners of our postures in Wing Chun. I know many of you already know this, and there are Wing Chun schools that teach Qigong as part of Wing Chun. I am saying go deeper than just Qigong.
 
 I want to take this into a different realm. And I will probably get disregarded and laughed at for it. Which is fine. Presenting an idea seen as new and unusual usually results in such an outcome. With this post, maybe we can think for a moment as to why , when cultivated effectively, Wing Chun is such a system of minute movements to result in a grander outcome... not easy just to say physics... but there is something I have in mind, and there is reasoning for it.. and it comes from the influences on the creators of Wing Chun during its time of ...being worked to mastery.

 Peace,
 Aiwei
 
 




Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:40 am

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Hi All, I wanted to bring up the ever contraversial topic of Qi Gong in Martial Arts and its many influences on much of the postures we have oversighted, and...
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Now I am not saying to add to Wing Chun. All I am saying is look at the make up of it all, look at the idea which led for it to be created for "Rapid...
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