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4335
We had a situation last Saturday on the field about when a pitcher becomes a legalized substitute. Here is the scenario; the coach goes to the field and...
dadcopp
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Mar 2, 2009
2:24 pm
4336
Roger, The wording in the rule reference you cite would seem to imply that a replacement pitcher is not legalized until he throws at least one warm-up pitch....
John Biggs
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Mar 2, 2009
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John, thanks for your quick response. I just want to make clear that the issue is not with whether the pitcher is eligible or not, however it is if he becomes...
dadcopp
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Mar 2, 2009
3:55 pm
4338
Understood. That's why I'm thinking that the IC in Reg VI only pertains to ineligible pitchers, and not your situation. But I'd like confirmation by those...
John Biggs
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Mar 2, 2009
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4339
I certainly won't say I'm more knowledgeable, but if I was confronted by the situation as the umpire, I would probably say that I (as umpire) called the game...
Alan McCullough
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Mar 2, 2009
5:45 pm
4340
In the absence of an announcement the player is considered in the game once he participates. In this case since an announcement was made, the manager informed...
llcad33
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Mar 2, 2009
6:25 pm
4341
... When the game UIC has been notified of a change that substitution has officially been completed (use of past tense intended). To help make this crystal...
Andy Millon
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Mar 2, 2009
9:26 pm
4342
Not to pick nits, Andy, but I only agree with your answer to a point.  Taking your words at face value a manager could tell you at the plate meeting that he...
Theodore Gazulis
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Mar 2, 2009
11:35 pm
4343
This is actually one of my significant irritations (and maybe why I stay away from the 60' diamond).... expanding the zone just to get or keep the game...
Theodore Gazulis
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Mar 2, 2009
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4344
... I do not accept ANY "projected" action of ANY kind.... for ANY reason.... at ANY time. All they will do is get an umpire into trouble. So just like an...
Andy Millon
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Mar 2, 2009
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2009 Junior Baseball Umpires CENTRAL Darold Loyer Robert Rigg Greg King SOUTHWEST Ronnie Haynes Bill Neuman EAST Sean Guilday Pete Lloyd SOUTH Andy Pagan Brian...
Ronnie Haynes
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Mar 3, 2009
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4346
Darold Loyer was my roomate @ the CR Junior Regional in Fort Wayne, IN. Jason WI-D4...
Jason Kelley
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Mar 3, 2009
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4347
... Wayne,...
Jason Kelley
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Mar 3, 2009
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4348
I think we've strayed from what, for me at least, is the meat of the original issue posted by Roger. That being... is the manager barred from returing the...
John Biggs
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Mar 3, 2009
2:14 pm
4349
How about this tact. Rule 3.08 on unannounced substitutions. A new pitcher is considered as in the game when he toes the rubber and throws a warm up ...
Doug Williams
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Mar 3, 2009
2:34 pm
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Thanks, Doug... but this is an announced substitution, putting in a replacement pitcher legally eligible to do so. 3.08(a)(1) speaks specifically to...
John Biggs
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Mar 3, 2009
3:32 pm
4351
WELL John..... Don't read me wrong on this...... I KNOW this is NOT an application of 3.08. you asked where I was going to draw the line and I simply was...
Doug
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Mar 3, 2009
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4352
I am thinking along the lines of once he announces the change he has announced for sure that his original pitcher is out. He has told me he is for sure making...
Scott Steinmetz
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Mar 3, 2009
4:21 pm
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DOG, I am going to go against you here, and maybe swim up hill. The manager announced he was removing the pitcher. So in my mind that kid is done. Now it's his...
Scott Steinmetz
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Mar 3, 2009
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4354
... Who is responsible for the substitutions made by a team? ... Seems to me it is the manager who is responsible. He tells the UIC of the substitution and...
Andy Millon
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Mar 3, 2009
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4355
I don't understand what is unclear here. John sites the rule about unannounced substitution and seems to ignore the rule about the UIC announcing...
llcad33
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Mar 3, 2009
5:56 pm
4356
Hey Scott.... Your game vs my game.... I just don't think being unreasonable is the answer to a good ballgame. We agree to disagree.... no argument from...
Doug Williams
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Mar 3, 2009
8:45 pm
4357
Okay now that this has gone on for some time in great debates. I would like to remind all to keep the spirit of the rules and game in mind at all time when...
Mark Goldberg
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Mar 3, 2009
8:55 pm
4358
Doug, in that case I would let him stay. If the manager announces a pitching change based on erroneous info from the official score keeper. This is a confusion...
Scott Steinmetz
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Mar 3, 2009
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4359
That's fine Mark ... and when the kids start announcing subs ... I will start giving those kids some leeway to get it right. However, my plumber (a coach) had...
Scott Steinmetz
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Mar 3, 2009
9:07 pm
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Good argument, DOG. Applying similar logic to this situation as another slightly different rule or reg is sometimes all you can do. My goal was to hear...
John Biggs
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Mar 3, 2009
9:36 pm
4361
... I for one do not understand your drift. Maybe you can clarify. Do you believe that rules are to be ignored if some child suffers if the rules are enforced?...
llcad33
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Mar 3, 2009
9:48 pm
4362
I have a manager asking me where the rule is that states coaches may not field throws from players while another Coach is hitting infield/outfield. I told him...
Tony Stockfish
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Mar 4, 2009
3:29 am
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There's nothing that covers that in the rules - only about coaches and/or managers catching for pitchers. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ... From:...
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soareagle60
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Mar 4, 2009
3:33 am
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3009 Players, manager .... <snip> ... Managers or coaches must not warm up a pitcher at home plate or in the bull pen or elsewhere at any time. ...
Scott Steinmetz
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