Jeff,

Congrats!  You'll do a good job.

Laundry will be one of the things rookies do.

Bruce Taylor
2007 Rookie Instructor

---- Jeff Frese <jefffrese@...> wrote:

=============
It was a very good day today:

I received an invite to instruct at WR for the week long school for
week 1 (January 12 - 18).  My buddy Steve Christman (we did the 2006
WR LL Tourney togther in SB), who is a pro school grad (Evans) was
also invited to instruct.  I also see that Doug (Williams) will be
instructing also.  (I'd love to pick your brain Doug, as I will be a
rookie week long instructor - but have attended the school twice as a
student.)
I was stoked because this is a goal of mine - I love teaching.  I
currently also teach at the WR UIC clinic.

No Little League Fall games this weekend - but I got a call from
another buddy - the DUIC from District 15 - Joe Chipponeri - to do
some JC level (his description) games in Lodi.  I looked up the
information on Google and it looks like it involves the JACL
(Japanese-American) baseball league and is a state AA level tourney.
I will be on the plate for a game between San Francisco and Gardena,
Ca at 4 PM and on the bases for the evening game (7:30 PM) between
Los Angeles and some team called the Beavers.

Has anyone worked any Japanese baseball league games before?

Jeff Frese

I am pretty sure we have met once before - now that you mention you
are a pilot.  In 2004 - week 2 school - I think you showed up halfway
through the week because of something to do with a back injury - I
was a student that week.

Jeff Frese

o--- In WRLLUmpires@yahoogroups.com, "Doug" <aadog@...> wrote:
>
> Jeff,
>
>      I look forward to teaching with you week one.  I'm sure we
will
> have a great time!  My nickname  aka callsign is DOG.  Maybe as
school
> I'll tell you how that was awarded to me when I was flying in the
> Marines.  Anyway looking forward to it.
>
> DOG  CA D55
>

Yes I would agree - but just the act of the batter doing what he did
and the catcher throwing does not automatically mean you call
interference - correct?  You have to have interference in order to
call interference.  Obviously if the runner was thrown out - the
interference call would be ignored and any other advances (by other
runners) would stand.

Jeff

--- In WRLLUmpires@yahoogroups.com, Steven Crane <ump_11@...> wrote:
>
> Agree
>
> jeffchap12 <jeffchap@...> wrote:          We had a couple of
strange plays occur in a 90-foot tournament in
> Lithuania recently.
>
> This one happened to Sam Griffith.
>
> Czech runner steals on pitch that is caught by catcher and called a
> ball. Immediately after pitch is called, batter swings to distract
> Lithuanian catcher from making an accurate throw.
>
> Is it a ball because that's what it was already called?
>
> Is it a strike because he swung?
>
> Is it a ball, and then a strike as well?
>
> Is it batter's interference?
>
> Sam stood by the original call - ball.
>
> (FYI, according to Andy Konyar, it's a ball, and if the catcher
throws,
> then it's batter's interference as well)
>
> Jeff Chapman
> CA D57
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.
>

Jeff,

      I look forward to teaching with you week one.  I'm sure we will
have a great time!  My nickname  aka callsign is DOG.  Maybe as school
I'll tell you how that was awarded to me when I was flying in the
Marines.  Anyway looking forward to it.

DOG  CA D55

If this was in the US - and before I saw Andy's response - that's
exactly what I would have responded with - bring the batter back -
the run scores and it's up to the defense to know what the situation
is.
I can understand your reasoning, though - but I would probably teach
them the correct ruling from the get go.

Jeff Frese

--- In WRLLUmpires@yahoogroups.com, "jeffchap12" <jeffchap@...> wrote:
>
> This one happened to me.
>
> Runner at 3rd, two out, 3-and-1 count on the batter…batter swings
and
> misses, catcher blocks ball in the dirt, batter takes off running
to
> first thinking he has struck out. Ball is overthrown at first and
> runner from third scores.
>
> Oops! That was only strike 2.
>
> Confusion on field - what to do with the batter? What to do with
the
> run that scored?
>
> To me, given the European baseball environment, the ruling boiled
> down to making it right. I brought the batter back with a 3-2 count
> and put the runner back at third, since he scored only because of
the
> confusion caused by the batter.
>
> FYI: When I posed the situation to Andy Konyar, he said that the
> defense is responsible to know the situation and that the run
should
> score and the batter comes back...I think that's fine for most
parts
> of the world, but when the subject is European baseball, we're
> talking about 14-year-olds with a baseball IQ of 10-year-olds...I
> know that, eventually, we have to start holding European baseball
to
> the same standards as the rest of the world, but I'm just not sure
> we're there yet...For instance, according to friends of mine who
did
> the EMEA LL Regional in Kutno recently, there were over 150 illegal
> pitches - about 5 were called...
>
> Knowing European baseball as I do from going over there for 5
summers
> (EMEA and Transatlantic Regionals, plus this Lithuanian friendship
> tournament), I know that some coaches will see this as a loophole
and
> will start coaching their kids to run on any pitch that they swing
at
> in the dirt, just to see if they can get the catcher to make a
throw.
> They'll look at this as a strategic play, even though it has no
place
> in the game. But the next time I see it over there, I'll have
Andy's
> input fresh in my mind. And I might call it differently.
>
> Jeff Chapman
> CA D57
>

It was a very good day today:

I received an invite to instruct at WR for the week long school for
week 1 (January 12 - 18).  My buddy Steve Christman (we did the 2006
WR LL Tourney togther in SB), who is a pro school grad (Evans) was
also invited to instruct.  I also see that Doug (Williams) will be
instructing also.  (I'd love to pick your brain Doug, as I will be a
rookie week long instructor - but have attended the school twice as a
student.)
I was stoked because this is a goal of mine - I love teaching.  I
currently also teach at the WR UIC clinic.

No Little League Fall games this weekend - but I got a call from
another buddy - the DUIC from District 15 - Joe Chipponeri - to do
some JC level (his description) games in Lodi.  I looked up the
information on Google and it looks like it involves the JACL
(Japanese-American) baseball league and is a state AA level tourney.
I will be on the plate for a game between San Francisco and Gardena,
Ca at 4 PM and on the bases for the evening game (7:30 PM) between
Los Angeles and some team called the Beavers.

Has anyone worked any Japanese baseball league games before?

Jeff Frese

Jeff wrote:
> Many also consider
> Mark's District LL umpire program to be one of the finest in the
> country.

You can count me as one of the many.

clay

We had a couple of strange plays occur in a 90-foot tournament in
Lithuania recently.

This one happened to Sam Griffith.

Czech runner steals on pitch that is caught by catcher and called a
ball. Immediately after pitch is called, batter swings to distract
Lithuanian catcher from making an accurate throw.

Is it a ball because that's what it was already called?

Is it a strike because he swung?

Is it a ball, and then a strike as well?

Is it batter's interference?

Sam stood by the original call - ball.

(FYI, according to Andy Konyar, it's a ball, and if the catcher throws,
then it's batter's interference as well)

Jeff Chapman
CA D57

This one happened to me.

Runner at 3rd, two out, 3-and-1 count on the batter…batter swings and
misses, catcher blocks ball in the dirt, batter takes off running to
first thinking he has struck out. Ball is overthrown at first and
runner from third scores.

Oops! That was only strike 2.

Confusion on field - what to do with the batter? What to do with the
run that scored?

To me, given the European baseball environment, the ruling boiled
down to making it right. I brought the batter back with a 3-2 count
and put the runner back at third, since he scored only because of the
confusion caused by the batter.

FYI: When I posed the situation to Andy Konyar, he said that the
defense is responsible to know the situation and that the run should
score and the batter comes back...I think that's fine for most parts
of the world, but when the subject is European baseball, we're
talking about 14-year-olds with a baseball IQ of 10-year-olds...I
know that, eventually, we have to start holding European baseball to
the same standards as the rest of the world, but I'm just not sure
we're there yet...For instance, according to friends of mine who did
the EMEA LL Regional in Kutno recently, there were over 150 illegal
pitches - about 5 were called...

Knowing European baseball as I do from going over there for 5 summers
(EMEA and Transatlantic Regionals, plus this Lithuanian friendship
tournament), I know that some coaches will see this as a loophole and
will start coaching their kids to run on any pitch that they swing at
in the dirt, just to see if they can get the catcher to make a throw.
They'll look at this as a strategic play, even though it has no place
in the game. But the next time I see it over there, I'll have Andy's
input fresh in my mind. And I might call it differently.

Jeff Chapman
CA D57

We had a couple of strange plays occur in a 90-foot tournament in
Lithuania recently.

This one happened to Sam Griffith.

Czech runner steals on pitch that is caught by catcher and called a
ball. Immediately after pitch is called, batter swings to distract
Lithuanian catcher from making an accurate throw.

Is it a ball because that's what it was already called?

Is it a strike because he swung?

Is it a ball, and then a strike as well?

Is it batter's interference?

Sam stood by the original call - ball.

(FYI, according to Andy Konyar, it's a ball, and if the catcher throws,
then it's batter's interference as well)

Jeff Chapman
CA D57

Jeff C,

Thank you for sharing.  I read through your log last night with
interest.  Your travel fiasco was something I hope I never
experience.  I hope you (and Sam) are proud of what you are doing
for the LL program in Lithuania - you are a trooper.  Look forward
to working with you again sometime in the future.

Jeff Frese

--- In WRLLUmpires@yahoogroups.com, "jeffchap12" <jeffchap@...>
wrote:
>
> hi guys, a lot of you in the west might be aware that Sam Griffith
and
> myself have a relationship with LL baseball folks in Lithuania and
that
> not only did we bring a Lithuanian juniors team to California last
> year, but we have been going TO Lithuania for each of the last 3
years
> to umpire, teach umpiring, and run a 90-foot tournament there.
Teams
> from SoCal have gone over and won each of these 3 tournaments, and
a
> team from Dublin (NorCal) also participated last year. Baseball is
> growing in Eastern Europe, but it's still light years from the
baseball
> we see and umpire in the states. But it's getting better. If you'd
like
> to read my daily diary of our most recent international baseball
> adventure, go to www.jeffchap.wordpress.com ... Enjoy the off-
season.
>
> Jeff Chapman
> CA D57
>

Thanks Mark.  Glad to have you on here and I hope your expertise will
assist those who desire it.  For those of you who don't know Mark
Bernstein, he is one of the three umpire supervisors that run the WR
Umpire program and he is also the President of the Western Region LL
Umpire Alumni Association (recently re-elected).  Many also consider
Mark's District LL umpire program to be one of the finest in the
country.

Jeff

--- In WRLLUmpires@yahoogroups.com, "c31ump" <lmbern@...> wrote:
>
> Jeff-
>
> Thanks for your efforts in starting this new group. While not a
> competition, I think the more dialogue the better. Look forward to
> some of the discussions.
>

Jeff-

Thanks for your efforts in starting this new group. While not a
competition, I think the more dialogue the better. Look forward to
some of the discussions.

Jeff
  Thanks for the invite to this group. I didn't fear other group , but did see
the group going
down hill in the last few weeks .Here's to the NEW group...HIP HIP ........

Your Friend

Joey Broxmeyer
Ca D-24 and D-21

hi guys, a lot of you in the west might be aware that Sam Griffith and
myself have a relationship with LL baseball folks in Lithuania and that
not only did we bring a Lithuanian juniors team to California last
year, but we have been going TO Lithuania for each of the last 3 years
to umpire, teach umpiring, and run a 90-foot tournament there. Teams
from SoCal have gone over and won each of these 3 tournaments, and a
team from Dublin (NorCal) also participated last year. Baseball is
growing in Eastern Europe, but it's still light years from the baseball
we see and umpire in the states. But it's getting better. If you'd like
to read my daily diary of our most recent international baseball
adventure, go to www.jeffchap.wordpress.com ... Enjoy the off-season.

Jeff Chapman
CA D57

>For those who havent seen my post in the other group. I am attending
>the Jim Evans Academy in January, to pursue my dream of becoming a
>professional umpire. I have had that dream since I started working
>at the old age of 13. I will be 21 when I attend, so that should be
>the perfect age for me to travel through the Minors and enjoy the
>single life at the same time.

Danny,
I think all of us would be interested in hearing/reading your
comments about your pro-school experience.  I know of a young
gentleman who will be attending the Wendlestadt school in
January.  Also 21 and also with the goal of a MLB umpire career since
he was 13.  It would be interesting to compare notes from the two of
you from the different schools.

Rick Roder provided the below advice to him, so I'll pass it along
for you as well.  Hopefully it will help.

Good luck, work hard and enjoy.
If you're not doing something you love, you're doing something wrong.  ;-)
Andy Millon
Captain, American Airlines
CA31 Staff Umpire
===========================
>From: "Rick Roder" <rick@...>
>To: "'Andy Millon'" <amillon@...>
>Subject: RE: Pro Umpire School, hints & tips
>
>Hi Andy,
>
>Sure I remember you...good to hear from you.
>
>I'd be glad to help out in any way I can. Unfortunately, the bad news is
>that there may be the worst "logjam" EVER in professional baseball at this
>time. They just gave out two jobs that don't really exist (Hickox and
>Hallion were rehired). Thus three jobs will have to open before the next MLB
>umpire is hired. That would probably be Chris Guccione, who at some point
>this season will pass the 1,000 MLB games mark and still no contract. Down
>below Chris and the other fill in umpires (Drake, Hoye, etc etc) resides the
>logjam. Scores of great umpires will be let go with no room at the top. This
>is a familiar tune, as Mike has read in Baseball's Narrowest Door, but the
>tune is perhaps louder than ever. I am not saying these things to deter
>anyone but a dose of reality must be taken at various points in a
>professional umpiring career. The 25 that were hired in 1999 are not going
>to retire for a long time, so that also has to be remembered. Once everyone
>above them is retired, it is going to be a desert experience for everyone
>else.
>
>Some points of advice I would give along the line are these: What did Mike
>study in college? He should seriously consider getting a good laptop and
>satellite internet connection and keep on working toward a regular job. I
>think that in almost every "regular job" there is something that can be done
>online...if not actually doing the job, then in continuing education. If he
>has not decided on a career then I would advise that he continue to think
>hard about things he could do with the many spare hours he would have if he
>got into the minor leagues. Three hours per day spent on this would make a
>huge difference, regardless of whether he attains an MLB contract. There are
>in fact probably going to be jobs related to umpiring, so he should also
>consider those, if he loves it that much. Or in professional baseball. My
>point is that a backup plan is a must. Mike needs to take some serious
>reflection time on what gifts he has besides on-field umpiring. Once he has
>identified those gifts, he needs to develop them side by side with his
>on-field skills. In my case, that would be writing and teaching, and you can
>see how I developed the two skills in parallel. Perhaps his other skills can
>correspond to baseball, perhaps not. But he should delve into this and think
>about it long and hard. And then do something about it..."first with the
>head, then with the heart."
>
>I might also suggest that he think about what might happen with his on-field
>umpiring skills should be be let go from professional baseball or decide to
>retire. In other words, along the line he might want to make connections
>with some college umpires or find out about independent leagues in his home
>area. Once a person has worked pro ball, these don't look so attractive, but
>if you want to umpire for life, it has to be considered. International
>umpiring is something that will blossom in his time. A great way to see the
>world. Along those lines, perhaps spare time could be put toward learning
>some languages. There are great conversational programs out there. Just
>another idea.
>
>As for preparing for school and the minor leagues, it sounds as if he is
>doing everything he can. When he gets to school however, a lot of what he
>has learned needs to "chill" and he needs to soak up what they are teaching
>at the school as if he has never heard anything about umpiring before. Guys
>can go to school so wrapped up with tension that they can't be themselves
>and let their instinct show through. This is tragic, but is the nature of
>the pressure in professional baseball. You almost have to mentally convince
>yourself to flow with the game, rather than getting to the right spot.
>Instinct is hard to describe and can only be recognized by those who have it
>(which is how the school instructors are basically picked). Kind of like the
>book "The Right Stuff" if you read that. Mike needs to make sure his
>deepest-level instincts are able to get past all the preparation and mental
>pressure he or others may be putting on him.
>
>Those are just some immediate thoughts. I am glad to help in any way. If
>Mike wants to talk sometime I am glad to. He might also want to see if he
>can meet some minor or major league umpires if he has not already. Maybe I
>could help facilitate that. Just let me know if you have any ideas or
>requests.
>
>Thanks again for writing,
>Rick
===========================================

> I would be interested to hear from others such as Doug and Jeff as
to
> how they make this difficult decision work for their district.


     Clay has hit the nail dead on!  This is the #1 toughest job the
DA and I as (DUIC) must do.  Who to recommend to WR??  I assure those
in D55 reading this the DA and I go over and over and over this to
constantly adjust our list.  While I cannot totally describe what
goes into it, here is some of my philosophy.  First the Umpire must
have some seasons of being a dedicated volunteer behind him.  And yes
I do mean game count too.  20 years of 5 games a season is different
than 100 games a season for 5 years!  So that gets us the starting
list.  Also an Umpire is only on ONE list at a time.  Majors,
Juniors, Seniors and BL all have different names.  So if a guy wants
a Senior WR nomination he obviously must be doing lots of big field
Umpiring!  Next we consider Attitude!  Is the guy CONSTANTLY arguing
just to argue? Is he specially proud of his ejection count each
season?  Next we do consider mechanics and rules knowledge.  I am not
beyond telling a 20 plus year Umpire he needs to go to WR, Jim Evans
or something to work on his skills.  And of course GET OUT THE GREEN
BOOK.   The DA and I just have a problem recommending someone who
will embarrass the District more than not!  Is there some politics
involved?  Probably! Guys who volunteer to do work other than just
work some games get noticed.  Do they help teach rules clinics to the
local leagues.  Have they ever been on a League board.  Have they
done the thankless job of scheduling Umpires as a League UIC?  It all
goes into the mix.  We try to be fair and impartial.  It is a shame
that we have so few slots and so many magnificent Umpires!  It will
always remain the toughest job the DA and DUIC ever have to do!!!

DOG  CA D55 (DUIC)

Jeff
Thanks for the invite to this group.  It is true that the other group
has put out some potential posters for fear of getting chastised.  I
look forward to seeing how much better this one can be over the other
one.

For those who havent seen my post in the other group.  I am attending
the Jim Evans Academy in January, to pursue my dream of becoming a
professional umpire.  I have had that dream since I started working
at the old age of 13.  I will be 21 when I attend, so that should be
the perfect age for me to travel through the Minors and enjoy the
single life at the same time.
Danny Robbins
WR Jr School Instuctor
CA 43 Umpire

--- In WRLLUmpires@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Frese" <jefffrese@...>
wrote:
>
> Thanks for your kind words Greg.  BTW, I worked a couple of games
> with Steve Christman weekend before last and will be working some
> games with Joe Chipponeri and Ron Ainslie in the coming weeks.
> District 15's umpire program is certainly solid because of you and
> what you did while you were there.  Thank you for joining the group.
>
> Jeff F
>
> --- In WRLLUmpires@yahoogroups.com, olsaltusa1@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Jeff,
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the invitation to your new WRLL list.? As you know I
> have remained in the shadows since leaving D-15 back in 2005.?
Since
> leaving Sonora I have remained active in LL as Player Agent with
Red
> Bluff LL, CA D-1.? You will still find me on the field, however not
> as?often as when I was DA for CA D-15.? I've watched your career
over
> the years and?am overwhelmed with where you have gone in your
> umpiring career.??I tip my old blue hat to you, my friend and hope
to?
> see you?in?Williamsport within the next few years.
> >
> > Greg Rogers
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Frese <jefffrese@>
> > To: WRLLUmpires@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 9:06 pm
> > Subject: [WRLLUmpires] Re: Keep it helpful for the New Guys.....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you Doug - you hit it right on the head and I could not
have
> > said it any better.  While I do not plan on being the Nazi
sensor,
> I
> > do plan to constantly remind list members (that need reminding)
> about
> > the philosphy of this group, which you have covered in your
post.
> If
> > I need to - I will not hesitate to use the "ban" button to keep
> this
> > group in that mode.
> >
> > Jeff Frese
> >
> > --- In WRLLUmpires@yahoogroups.com, "Doug" <aadog@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Jeff,
> > >
> > >      I absolutely know what you mean about some folks not
posting
> > for
> > > fear....   Personally I have avoided posting just because I
don't
> > > want to listen to all the I AM THE GOD OF BASEBALL BECAUSE I
HAVE
> > > DONE XYZ Games while they are telling me how screwed up I am.
> > Those
> > > who Umpire with me already know how screwed up I am.....
Often
> > the
> > > subject turns 3rd world and as the topic is being kicked around
> > some
> > > folks got real defensive and down right attacked others.  THAT
> > scares
> > > away the newbees real fast!  If I want to say something like my
> > > League has a MUST SLIDE rule and I start to support the
position
> I
> > > hope the WRLL members calmly and helpfully explain why
something
> > like
> > > that would be wrong rather than pointing out I'm just a friggin
> > idiot
> > > because I don't do college baseball!  Also stuff about how paid
> > guys
> > > are so much better than volunteers even though I know some
> > Volunteers
> > > who have been through the PRO School and many clinics they just
> > > choose to do Little League for free!  So I hope we on this WRLL
> > forum
> > > will keep it open and friendly just like the WRLL Umpire School
> is
> > > taught under the Direction of Dugout and the Humstrike Freddie!
> I'm
> > > on board if it stays with the opening theory.
> > >
> > > Doug DOG Williams
> > > CA D55  & WRLL
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Hi Will,
You bring up the toughest thing a DA and a DUIC has to do in regards
to umpires. What is the pecking order in the district and who gets the
recommendation? As you well know that decision takes in more than just
skill. The recommendation is often for service to both the district
and the local league. While some one quite young might have the
greater skills do you pass over the dedicated volunteer that has made
the sacrifice and given many hours of service to Little League.

With the other group Jim G. new policy for selecting representatives
from each district for the regional assignments was ridiculed. However
if I know that every 8 years some one from my district has a chance to
get a regional assignment, that does effect my decision making process.

I would be interested to hear from others such as Doug and Jeff as to
how they make this difficult decision work for their district.

clay

--- In WRLLUmpires@yahoogroups.com, Will Bumgardner <heyblue01@...> wrote:
>
> I should probably clarify.  I'm 30.  It's not the region that's
holding me up... it's my district.  I think Jeff can vouch for me that
I might deserve a bid, but I was told last year that he's pushing
others through (even if they aren't at my level) because of their age.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: llcad33 <llcad33@...>
> To: WRLLUmpires@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 7:42:25 PM
> Subject: [WRLLUmpires] Re: First post!
>
> Hi Will,
> Are you that young? Since the age range has been from the late 20's
> into the late 60's why would you think your age is holding you up?
>
> clay
>
> --- In WRLLUmpires@ yahoogroups. com, Will Bumgardner <heyblue01@
..> wrote:
> >
> > YAY!!! I get to be the first! :) I claim this post for Nevada
> District 1. May I someday get a bid to the regional in San Bernardino
> and not continue to get shafted because of my age.
> >
> > Will
> >
>

Jeff,

Thanks for the invitation to the WRLL group.  I lurk more than post on
the other one ... for many of the reasons that you have mentioned.

It was great working the WR this past year.  If I hadn't been so hyper
and had happy-feet, I might have gotten a base on a TV final.  Oh
well.  Arizona took away my chance on the West final.

Now getting ready for Fall Ball for the next few months and preparing
for next season.

Bruce Taylor
2007 WR Alumni
AZ D5 UIC



--- In WRLLUmpires@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Frese" <jefffrese@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you Doug - you hit it right on the head and I could not have
> said it any better.  While I do not plan on being the Nazi sensor, I
> do plan to constantly remind list members (that need reminding) about
> the philosphy of this group, which you have covered in your post.  If
> I need to - I will not hesitate to use the "ban" button to keep this
> group in that mode.
>
> Jeff Frese
>
> --- In WRLLUmpires@yahoogroups.com, "Doug" <aadog@> wrote:
> >
> > Jeff,
> >
> >      I absolutely know what you mean about some folks not posting
> for
> > fear....   Personally I have avoided posting just because I don't
> > want to listen to all the I AM THE GOD OF BASEBALL BECAUSE I HAVE
> > DONE XYZ Games while they are telling me how screwed up I am.
> Those
> > who Umpire with me already know how screwed up I am.....    Often
> the
> > subject turns 3rd world and as the topic is being kicked around
> some
> > folks got real defensive and down right attacked others.  THAT
> scares
> > away the newbees real fast!  If I want to say something like my
> > League has a MUST SLIDE rule and I start to support the position I
> > hope the WRLL members calmly and helpfully explain why something
> like
> > that would be wrong rather than pointing out I'm just a friggin
> idiot
> > because I don't do college baseball!  Also stuff about how paid
> guys
> > are so much better than volunteers even though I know some
> Volunteers
> > who have been through the PRO School and many clinics they just
> > choose to do Little League for free!  So I hope we on this WRLL
> forum
> > will keep it open and friendly just like the WRLL Umpire School is
> > taught under the Direction of Dugout and the Humstrike Freddie! I'm
> > on board if it stays with the opening theory.
> >
> > Doug DOG Williams
> > CA D55  & WRLL
> >
>

Thanks for your kind words Greg.  BTW, I worked a couple of games
with Steve Christman weekend before last and will be working some
games with Joe Chipponeri and Ron Ainslie in the coming weeks.
District 15's umpire program is certainly solid because of you and
what you did while you were there.  Thank you for joining the group.

Jeff F

--- In WRLLUmpires@yahoogroups.com, olsaltusa1@... wrote:
>
>
> Jeff,
>
>
>
> Thanks for the invitation to your new WRLL list.? As you know I
have remained in the shadows since leaving D-15 back in 2005.? Since
leaving Sonora I have remained active in LL as Player Agent with Red
Bluff LL, CA D-1.? You will still find me on the field, however not
as?often as when I was DA for CA D-15.? I've watched your career over
the years and?am overwhelmed with where you have gone in your
umpiring career.??I tip my old blue hat to you, my friend and hope to?
see you?in?Williamsport within the next few years.
>
> Greg Rogers
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Frese <jefffrese@...>
> To: WRLLUmpires@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 9:06 pm
> Subject: [WRLLUmpires] Re: Keep it helpful for the New Guys.....
>
>
>
>
> Thank you Doug - you hit it right on the head and I could not have
> said it any better.  While I do not plan on being the Nazi sensor,
I
> do plan to constantly remind list members (that need reminding)
about
> the philosphy of this group, which you have covered in your post.
If
> I need to - I will not hesitate to use the "ban" button to keep
this
> group in that mode.
>
> Jeff Frese
>
> --- In WRLLUmpires@yahoogroups.com, "Doug" <aadog@> wrote:
> >
> > Jeff,
> >
> >      I absolutely know what you mean about some folks not posting
> for
> > fear....   Personally I have avoided posting just because I don't
> > want to listen to all the I AM THE GOD OF BASEBALL BECAUSE I HAVE
> > DONE XYZ Games while they are telling me how screwed up I am.
> Those
> > who Umpire with me already know how screwed up I am.....    Often
> the
> > subject turns 3rd world and as the topic is being kicked around
> some
> > folks got real defensive and down right attacked others.  THAT
> scares
> > away the newbees real fast!  If I want to say something like my
> > League has a MUST SLIDE rule and I start to support the position
I
> > hope the WRLL members calmly and helpfully explain why something
> like
> > that would be wrong rather than pointing out I'm just a friggin
> idiot
> > because I don't do college baseball!  Also stuff about how paid
> guys
> > are so much better than volunteers even though I know some
> Volunteers
> > who have been through the PRO School and many clinics they just
> > choose to do Little League for free!  So I hope we on this WRLL
> forum
> > will keep it open and friendly just like the WRLL Umpire School
is
> > taught under the Direction of Dugout and the Humstrike Freddie!
I'm
> > on board if it stays with the opening theory.
> >
> > Doug DOG Williams
> > CA D55  & WRLL
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
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--- In WRLLUmpires@yahoogroups.com, Will Bumgardner <heyblue01@...>
wrote:
>
> YAY!!!  I get to be the first! :)  I claim this post for Nevada
District 1.  May I someday get a bid to the regional in San
Bernardino and not continue to get shafted because of my age.
>
> Will
>
Hey Will,
I wish I would have gotten started at 30 I would have been able to
see better, But besides that, Your age will have nothing to do with
it, We had an 18 year old kid work WR a couple years ago and did one
heck of a job, Just make sure that you get all the schooling in you
can, and keep putting in for it until you get it. Then go for WS. in
fact Rene from Geramany was only 28 and did the WS this year, Granted
he doesn't have as much compatition as we do. Either way keep haven
fun and never give up.
Good Luck
Steve
UIC
Ca.D41

Thank you Doug - you hit it right on the head and I could not have
said it any better.  While I do not plan on being the Nazi sensor, I
do plan to constantly remind list members (that need reminding) about
the philosphy of this group, which you have covered in your post.  If
I need to - I will not hesitate to use the "ban" button to keep this
group in that mode.

Jeff Frese

--- In WRLLUmpires@yahoogroups.com, "Doug" <aadog@...> wrote:
>
> Jeff,
>
>      I absolutely know what you mean about some folks not posting
for
> fear....   Personally I have avoided posting just because I don't
> want to listen to all the I AM THE GOD OF BASEBALL BECAUSE I HAVE
> DONE XYZ Games while they are telling me how screwed up I am.
Those
> who Umpire with me already know how screwed up I am.....    Often
the
> subject turns 3rd world and as the topic is being kicked around
some
> folks got real defensive and down right attacked others.  THAT
scares
> away the newbees real fast!  If I want to say something like my
> League has a MUST SLIDE rule and I start to support the position I
> hope the WRLL members calmly and helpfully explain why something
like
> that would be wrong rather than pointing out I'm just a friggin
idiot
> because I don't do college baseball!  Also stuff about how paid
guys
> are so much better than volunteers even though I know some
Volunteers
> who have been through the PRO School and many clinics they just
> choose to do Little League for free!  So I hope we on this WRLL
forum
> will keep it open and friendly just like the WRLL Umpire School is
> taught under the Direction of Dugout and the Humstrike Freddie! I'm
> on board if it stays with the opening theory.
>
> Doug DOG Williams
> CA D55  & WRLL
>

Jeff,

      I absolutely know what you mean about some folks not posting for
fear....   Personally I have avoided posting just because I don't
want to listen to all the I AM THE GOD OF BASEBALL BECAUSE I HAVE
DONE XYZ Games while they are telling me how screwed up I am.  Those
who Umpire with me already know how screwed up I am.....    Often the
subject turns 3rd world and as the topic is being kicked around some
folks got real defensive and down right attacked others.  THAT scares
away the newbees real fast!  If I want to say something like my
League has a MUST SLIDE rule and I start to support the position I
hope the WRLL members calmly and helpfully explain why something like
that would be wrong rather than pointing out I'm just a friggin idiot
because I don't do college baseball!  Also stuff about how paid guys
are so much better than volunteers even though I know some Volunteers
who have been through the PRO School and many clinics they just
choose to do Little League for free!  So I hope we on this WRLL forum
will keep it open and friendly just like the WRLL Umpire School is
taught under the Direction of Dugout and the Humstrike Freddie! I'm
on board if it stays with the opening theory.

Doug DOG Williams
CA D55  & WRLL

Well, I've been a member of the "other" group since the beginning last century.
While I
personally never experienced any of the negative stuff you mention in the
description of this
group, I do recall isolated incidents involving other members. Compared to what
I hear about
similar groups though, the "other" group is pretty much "G" rated.

But I like the idea of another forum to discuss LL umpiring so now I have two
;=}.

Shalom (Peace)

Jack Coleman-Levy
Treasurer
El Dorado LL
Lancaster, Ca. (D51)

Hi Will,
Are you that young? Since the age range has been from the late 20's
into the late 60's why would you think your age is holding you up?

clay

--- In WRLLUmpires@yahoogroups.com, Will Bumgardner <heyblue01@...> wrote:
>
> YAY!!!  I get to be the first! :)  I claim this post for Nevada
District 1.  May I someday get a bid to the regional in San Bernardino
and not continue to get shafted because of my age.
>
> Will
>