WRLLUmpires : Message: Re: [WRLLUmpires] Re: Appeal from the rubber

So if the pitcher threw to an unoccupied "base" (Per defnition- in this case home plate) for the purpose of making a play (per Rule 8:05 (d) and which according to the RIM interpretation is perfectly fine- why is this not a proper appeal?

A PITCH is a ball delivered to the batter by the pitcher.

How can you not call a pitcher who is properly engaged with the rubber and throwing to home not a pitch?

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This is from one of our umps who just joined the board. It happened in our first tournament game, majors. Runner misses home. Catcher without the ball, it...

russkyl49

Jul 3, 2009
11:09 pm

Just to clarify-the picther clearly was not "pitching." I would define it has a "pitch out." The pitcher, in a relaxed manner (not his normal windup), threw...

drtinphx

Jul 3, 2009
11:26 pm

Just to clarify-the picther clearly was not "pitching." I would define it has a "pitch out." The pitcher, in a relaxed manner (not his normal windup), threw...

Jay
llump41

Jul 4, 2009
1:39 am

At this point I am not so convinced it was a ball. To the contrary there is a strong arguement that this was a proper appeal: Source: 2009 Little League Rule...

drtinphx

Jul 4, 2009
2:30 am

I think I have an illegal pitch. If the same thing happened, said he was appealing etc and the pitch was right down the middle I would not want to reward the...

Russell Smith
russkyl49

Jul 4, 2009
3:01 am

So if the pitcher threw to an unoccupied "base" (Per defnition- in this case home plate) for the purpose of making a play (per Rule 8:05 (d) and which...

Jay
llump41

Jul 4, 2009
3:09 am

A PITCH is a ball delivered to the batter by the pitcher. How can you not call a pitcher who is properly engaged with the rubber and throwing to home not a...

drtinphx

Jul 4, 2009
3:24 am

"The pitcher, in a relaxed manner (not his normal windup), threw the ball to the catcher who was far to the outside (in the LH batters box,) when he caught the...

Jay
llump41

Jul 4, 2009
4:53 am

... What defines a pitch is being in contact with the rubber and throwing toward the plate. You can not redefine what a pitch is. If you are going to make an...

llcad33

Jul 4, 2009
5:42 am

... I respectfully disagree, The definition of a pitch which Jay posted verbatim from Rule 2.0 is: "A ball delivered to the batter by the pitcher." Not sure...

drtinphx

Jul 4, 2009
6:42 am

Clay gave you the accepted definition of a pitch. What you had was ball one to the batter and the defense lost its chance to appeal. Here is the definition of...

Travis Brown
umpinca

Jul 4, 2009
7:22 am

Some pretty heated discussion on this one. It seems to come up every year, and has been beat up each year. Here is the ruling from EVERY authority out...

Lee Batterman
battercl

Jul 4, 2009
6:13 pm

What wasn't stated in the OP and, after reading Batman's rulings, IMO is the determining factor in weather it's a pitch or appeal is... was the batter in the...

Richard Carrillo
ca51blue

Jul 6, 2009
4:05 pm

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