Just a wild guess here Andy but, is this a slow time of the year for
you? :-)

--- In WRLLUmpires@yahoogroups.com, Andy Millon <amillon@...> wrote:
>
> Many different techniques, styles, preferences,
> etc. have been discussed and such discussions are
> very good for all involved. Especially if you
> keep an open mind to other opinions, techniques,
> styles, preferences, etc. I would like to
> specifically address Kyle's questions/comments
> and then post a general comment for all (see end of msg).
>
> Kyle Telleson writes:
>
> >There's nothing worse, or more time consuming
> >than an umpire who insists on taking the
> >changes, and then shouting them up to the scorekeeper.
>
> Sure there is. An umpire who does not keep track
> of the official batting order per the rules of
> the game. IMHO, it is only "time consuming" when
> an umpire/scorekeeper have difficulty
> knowing/understanding their roles. The UIC has
> the only official batting order so all that is
> needed for the game to proceed is for the UIC to
> have the batting order change recorded accurately.
>
> >Now, if you just have the managers announce the
> >substitutions, you've eliminated half the
> >process. There's no need to "reannounce" them. I
> >just take notes as he is telling the scorekeeper.
>
> But are you then following (and enforcing) the rules of the game?
>
> >For post season game, when we're not running CBO, I just have
whoever
> >is making the changes come over to the fence with me. If the other
> >dugout wants the changes they'd better have one of the three adults
> >meet us at the fence. The manager just states his changes, and
that's
> >it. If I, or the scorekeeper, see a problem with the changes, we
deal
> >with them in real time. No need for hollering, or repeating. I've
> >found that most managers like doing it this way too, as it's much
> >quicker.
>
> So why do you handle batting order changes
> differently during your regular season?
>
> >Most sectional and division games I've worked require positions
> >changes. No problems, but I don't note them on my card. Am I wrong
in
> >not doing so? Pitchers and catcher I get, but should I worry about
> >who's in right in the fourth inning?
>
> The short answer is... NO. Beyond F1 and F2
> [there are regulations & rules concerning whom is
> playing those positions] anybody can play
> anywhere in fair territory so what is in a
> name? That's a scorekeeper's headache, but I
> will not slow down the game so they can make a
> decision on what "position" a person is "playing"
> on paper. Yes, I know many an umpire who want
> ALL the details [and are capable of keeping track
> of ALL those details]; however, there is no
> rule/regulation that requires such records be kept by the UIC.
>
> With the understanding that every umpire must
> call "their game" using whatever techniques
> he/she is most comfortable with using, I ask all
> to please review their technique(s) and opinions
> based upon the following rule and RIM citations.
>
> ============================
> 9.01 -- (b) Each umpire..... and is authorized
> and REQUIRED to enforce ALL of these rules.
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> 9.04 -- (a) …The umpire-in-chief's duties shall be to:
>
> (1) take full charge of, and be responsible for,
> the proper conduct of the game;
>
> (7) inform the official scorer of the official
> batting order; and any changes in the lineups and batting order...
>
> INSTRUCTOR COMMENTS: As indicated earlier in Rule
> 4.01, the plate umpire is responsible for the
> lineup and changes. Follow this procedure and
> your games will be much more peaceful.
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> 3.03 – INSTRUCTOR COMMENTS: Umpires are
> responsible for not allowing a starter to re-enter the game
illegally.
>
> 3.03 – NOTE: (1) When two or more substitute
> players of the defensive team enter the game at
> the same time, the manager shall, immediately
> before they take their positions as fielders,
> designate to the umpire-in-chief such player's
> positions in the teams batting order and the
> umpire-in-chief shall notify the official scorer.
> The umpire-in-chief shall have authority to
> designate the substitute's places in the batting
> order, if this information is not immediately provided.
>
> INSTRUCTOR COMMENTS: Umpires are responsible for
> the lineup, and should insure that players are
> entered into the proper position.
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> 3.05 --
> (a) The pitcher named in the batting order handed to the umpire-in-
chief….
>
> INSTRUCTOR COMMENTS:
> Umpires should insure that when receiving the
> lineup prior to the game that two pitchers are not listed on a
team's lineup.
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> 3.06 -- The manager shall immediately notify the
> umpire-in-chief of any substitution and shall
> state to the umpire-in-chief the substitute's place in the batting
order.
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> 3.07 -- The umpire-in-chief after having been
> notified, shall immediately announce, or cause to
> be announced, each substitution.
>
> INSTRUCTOR COMMENTS:
> If the umpire notices that the substitutions are
> not legal before they assume the position on the
> field, the umpire should inform the manager and
> prevent the substitution from taking place.
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> 3.09 -- Players, managers and coaches of the
> participating teams shall not address, or mingle
> with spectators… during a game in which they are engaged.
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> 4.01 -- The umpires shall proceed directly to
> home plate where they shall be met by the
> managers of the opposing teams, just preceding
> the established time to begin the game. In sequence -
>
> (c) the umpire-in-chief shall make certain that
> the original and duplicate copies are the same,
> then provide a copy of each batting order to the
> opposing manager. The original copy retained by
> the umpire-in-chief shall be the official batting order.
>
> INSTRUCTOR COMMENTS:
> The official lineups are the responsibility of the Plate Umpire, no
one else.
>
> Even in situations where the managers have
> presented a lineup to the Scorekeeper well in
> advance of game time, the lineups do not become
> official until the umpire receives it just prior to the start of
the game.
>
> Obvious errors in the batting order, which are
> noticed by the umpire-in-chief before he/she
> calls "Play" for the start of the game, should be
> called to the attention of the manager of the
> team in error, so the correction can be made
> before the game starts. Teams should not be
> "trapped" later by some mistake that obviously
> was inadvertent and which can be corrected before the game starts.
>
> Changes made with the umpire prior to the game
> are simply changes in the starting lineup, not substitutions.
> ============================
>
> The lack of Scorekeeper responsibility is noticeably telling.
>
> So how do your preferences and/or techniques
> stack up against the actual Little League rules and
interpretations??? :-)
>
> Have you been complying with that first citation??? ;-)
>
> Andy
> CA31
>