No. That wouldn't apply in either situation. It wasn't a pitch that went Out of Play nor was it the first throw by an infielder. Both of our situations require two bases from time of throw - not pitch.
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Joe Chipponeri <chipster39@...> wrote:
would it be from time of pitch?that would put R1 on third and BR on 2nd ? Chip
In both J/R and JEA, the only situation close to this is a situation with R1, batter hits fly ball to outfield. R1 holds up and advances halfway thinking ball will be caught. BR reaches 1B. Outfielder misses the ball and then airmails it out of play. In this, both books say that you can't award someone 3 bases so that someone else can get two. So, R1 gets 3B and BR gets 2B even though both had, in a way, attained 1B before the ball was thrown out of play.
I would use this example when ruling on this play.
R1 - base hit. R1 rounds 2nd and ends up in a rundown. BR to 2nd base while rundown is going on. Short stop throws ball out of play during the rundown. R1 gets 2 bases from 2nd base to score. BR gets what?
I am sure I just read this somewhere in the past week and I believe it said that BR, even though he acquired 2nd base, only gets awarded 2 bases from 1st base - so he ends up on third. I am sure it has something to do with R1 not acquiring 3rd, so legally he is awarded from 2nd base and BR doesn't get the benefit of legally acquiring 2nd base yet because of R1's position - or something along those lines...
Who knows the answer? I can't remember where I saw this and can't find it.
No. That wouldn't apply in either situation. It wasn't a pitch that went Out of Play nor was it the first throw by an infielder. Both of our situations...
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