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FW: [WCCTriathlon] Cyclist Fatalities   Message List  
Reply | Forward Message #706 of 2086 |
Re: FW: [WCCTriathlon] Cyclist Fatalities

has anyone renewed their license in NYS lately? they
include a bicycle safety sheet in every mailer.

--- Adam <running_coach@...> wrote:

> Greetings from New York.
>
> I thought you would like to know that you are not
> alone out there in a fight
> to save cyclists' lives. Not that knowing this
> necessarily helps but
> perhaps a sharing of practices would be worthwhile.
> Bedford, by the way is
> just north of Manhattan in Westchester County and
> part of the regular
> weekend Gimbals ride which is arguably the largest
> weekly ride in the
> Northeast with hundreds of riders every Saturday and
> Sunday except when it
> is snowing.
>
> The two attachments include an article of the
> accident reporting and then
> one Bedford resident's recommendation is to ban
> bicycles from roads as the
> obvious solution.
>
> Similar to PCH or San Vicente, we have riders out
> here that ride in groups
> that don't give a rats ass about the cars or traffic
> lights or laws. This
> clearly pisses the drivers off. I ride also, and
> yes, I've blown through a
> red light when it was safe to do so, but the
> behavior of riders is half of
> the issue. The sentiment out here definitely seems
> to be F.U. to the cars;
> you have the road all of the time; when I'm out here
> I get it.
>
> In my mind it comes down to ignorance. Yesterday,
> while I was at a high
> school track helping a group of my runners with
> their form, I had them
> calibrate their Nike Speed and Distance Monitors.
> The track was open and
> people were jogging around it and on the field a
> soccer game was going on.
> As I had my runner run in the #1 lane to get as
> close to 400 meters as they
> could, the soccer moms would step into the lane and
> stand there instead of
> on the field. As I ran ahead of my runners to clear
> the track, I politely
> asked them to step out of the #1 lane and their
> response was indignant.
> "There's plenty of room on the outside." They just
> don't understand and
> have probably never been taught. In my mind this is
> no different than what
> happens on the roads with cyclists and drivers.
>
> My vote is to include a section in every driver
> education and drivers test
> across the country that includes and acknowledgement
> that cyclists and other
> non motorized vehicles (We have horse and buggies
> out here in Amish areas)
> have as much right to the roads as do the cars. I
> don't know if they show
> it anymore but we were required to watch "Red
> Asphalt" before we got our
> learners permit. With all of the blood in that
> movie, not once do I seem to
> remember them addressing the fact that other
> vehicles use the road other
> than cars and the single pedestrian pushing the
> grocery cart across the
> intersection.
>
> My thoughts
> -Adam
>
> _____
>
> From: George Grenier
> [mailto:grenier@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 4:18 PM
> To: 'Adam'
> Subject: RE: [WCCTriathlon] Record Review articles
>
>
>
> Here you go.
>
>
>
> George A. Grenier III
>
> N4 Fitness, Inc.
>
> 31 South Road
>
> Katonah, NY 10536
>
> 914-671-3729 (voice)
>
> 914-767-0996 (fax)
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam [mailto:running_coach@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 3:53 PM
> To: 'George Grenier'
> Subject: RE: [WCCTriathlon] Record Review articles
>
>
>
> George, can you please send the tiff files to me as
> an attachment?
>
> Thanks
>
> -Adam
>
> running_coach@...
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: WCCTriathlon@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:WCCTriathlon@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of George Grenier
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 6:29 PM
> To: WCCTriathlon@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [WCCTriathlon] Record Review articles
>
> Yes, I did write. And yes, it was beautiful this
> morning! Just be careful
> now that it is darker in the morning. We ride out of
> Katonah a few days a
> week and the start time has gone from 5:30 to 5:45
> to now 6:00 and we still
> had someone crash at 6:10 Sunday morning due to an
> unseen 2" diameter rock
> in the road.
>
> Anyone recommend a good road headlight for not super
> big bucks?
>
> Be well,
>
>
>
> George
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WCCTriathlon@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:WCCTriathlon@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Eve Hartman
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 6:05 PM
> To: WCCTriathlon@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [WCCTriathlon] Record Review articles
>
>
>
> George -
> Thanks for sending these articles. It's a good
> heads up for all of us
> to be as cautious and as courteous as possible when
> we're riding.
> I hope you're writing a rebuttal letter to the
> editor - I'm not from
> Bedford or I would. The road rage against bike
> riders is really scary
> sometimes. That said, I was out on my bike this
> morning and it was
> beautiful.
>
> Eve
>
> --- George Grenier <grenier@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Sorry I could not get Acrobat to work with me so I
> posted some Tiff
> > files. Hope you can all read them.
> > George
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>


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Greetings from New York. I thought you would like to know that you are not alone out there in a fight to save cyclists' lives. Not that knowing this...
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