I took my bike back for a few more adjustments today, and then this
evening, after my second job, I took it on the 2.5 mile ride to
deposit a paycheck. I sort of dreaded the long climb out of
Peekskill, one unending hill, so since I live on a hill, I decided to
use altitude to my advantage and took mostly back roads. It worked
out well, though it lengthened the trip, and I only had a couple of
serious climbs, joining 35/202 after the worst of it. The chain
didn't even fall off! Beautiful evening for it too, which I could see
through my new nifty lens-switch sunglasses- copper for the way
there, while it was sunny, and clear for the way back, as it got
progressively duskier. (Hadn't wanted to ride at night, but the ride
back was nearly all downhill and very quick.)

I really look forward to joining a group ride, but my schedule is
ridiculous, and none of them work for me so far. It's great to
witness the chat, though!

Susan

Harvey,

Is that the one with the brass peacock gates ?

Terry
--- Harvey <h.loeb@...> wrote:

> Kevan:
>
> We rode right by the entrance to the Steinhardt
> Property on Terry Burke's half unpaved ramble.  The
> grounds are fantastic with lots of exotic animals as
> a bonus.
>
> Harvey
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: davidmckaywilson@...
>   To: WCCChat@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 2:17 PM
>   Subject: Re: [WCCChat] Re: Spring Photography Ride
> (Better known as the "The Foresooth...
>
>
>
>   Shelley,
>   Here's the link to Westchester garden tours on May
> 4
>
>   Here's the link.
>
>
http://www.gardenconservancy.org/opendays/events.pl?ID=86&SortBy=&State=
>
>
>
>   David McKay Wilson
>   Writer
>   104 Topland Rd.
>   Mahopac, NY 10541
>   914-217-5600
>   davidmckaywilson@...
>
>   In a message dated 3/31/2008 2:50:33 P.M. Eastern
> Daylight Time, vergenceranges@... writes:
>     Kevan, count me in! I did 2 "Click n Ride" rides
> last season. The
>     first one went to the Croton Dam and the 2nd
> went to Stone Barns. Its
>     nice to have a destination as well as just
> stopping along the way when
>     something looks interesting.
>
>     I found this, but I don't know much about any of
> these destinations.
>
>
http://www.westchestertourism.com/DrivingTours/IOneGarden.htm
>
>     May 3 weekend works better for me (April 26 is
> Passover).
>
>     I don't know much about the Purchase/greenwich
> area, so I couldn't
>     help with routes.
>
>     Also, are there days when people open their
> gardens for tours-- do you
>     know anything about this? Anyone?
>
>     Shelly
>
>     --- In WCCChat@yahoogroups.com, "Full, Kevan"
> <kfull@...> wrote:
>     >
>     > At some point late last year, I promised a few
> folk over a drink (that
>     > damn holiday punch!) that I'd lead a
> multi-level club ride geared more
>     > towards photography than robust riding. Well,
> spring has sprung upon us
>     > and in one warm and sunny nook, at the base of
> Sherwood Avenue, if you
>     > noticed; the daffodils are already in bloom.
> Those little flowers
>     > guilted (pardon the verbal stretch) me into
> getting this ride started.
>     > But I need from everyone interested some
> answers to two questions, which
>     > are: when should we hold this ride and where
> are the best places to go
>     > to see and shoot the colors? I think it is
> still just a bit too early,
>     > but I want this event planned and a general
> route put in place. I'm
>     > thinking the weekends of either April 26th or
> May3rd and the route to be
>     > in the Greenwich/Bedford/Purchase area, but I
> am totally open to your
>     > suggestions. Small gardens might be better
> than the large ones we roll
>     > by in the northern part of the county.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > This is a ride where no one gets dropped and
> opportunities to shoot are
>     > taken. The average pace will be that of a
> snail's and will provide
>     > allowances for you large format-type folk. I
> am speaking of the cameras
>     > of course!
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > I would hope that we could nail that perfect
> weekend day where the trees
>     > and flowers are in bloom. What say ye? And
> PLEASE!!!!...what you do
>     > have to say, please direct to the WCCChat line
> of communication and not
>     > clog the Rides email system. I will not
> respond to communication in the
>     > Rides email system until the event has been
> planned using WCCChat.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > So, clean those lenses and give me your ideas.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Kevan
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>
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----- Original Message -----

From: davidmckaywilson@...

To: WCCChat@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 2:17 PM

Subject: Re: [WCCChat] Re: Spring Photography Ride (Better known as the "The Foresooth...

Shelley,

Here's the link to Westchester garden tours on May 4

 

Here's the link.

http://www.gardenconservancy.org/opendays/events.pl?ID=86&SortBy=&State=

 

 

 

David McKay Wilson
Writer
104 Topland Rd.
Mahopac, NY 10541
914-217-5600
davidmckaywilson@aol.com

 

In a message dated 3/31/2008 2:50:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, vergenceranges@yahoo.com writes:

Kevan, count me in! I did 2 "Click n Ride" rides last season. The
first one went to the Croton Dam and the 2nd went to Stone Barns. Its
nice to have a destination as well as just stopping along the way when
something looks interesting.

I found this, but I don't know much about any of these destinations.
http://www.westchestertourism.com/DrivingTours/IOneGarden.htm

May 3 weekend works better for me (April 26 is Passover).

I don't know much about the Purchase/greenwich area, so I couldn't
help with routes.

Also, are there days when people open their gardens for tours-- do you
know anything about this? Anyone?

Shelly

--- In WCCChat@yahoogroups.com, "Full, Kevan" <kfull@...> wrote:
>
> At some point late last year, I promised a few folk over a drink (that
> damn holiday punch!) that I'd lead a multi-level club ride geared more
> towards photography than robust riding. Well, spring has sprung upon us
> and in one warm and sunny nook, at the base of Sherwood Avenue, if you
> noticed; the daffodils are already in bloom. Those little flowers
> guilted (pardon the verbal stretch) me into getting this ride started.
> But I need from everyone interested some answers to two questions, which
> are: when should we hold this ride and where are the best places to go
> to see and shoot the colors? I think it is still just a bit too early,
> but I want this event planned and a general route put in place. I'm
> thinking the weekends of either April 26th or May3rd and the route to be
> in the Greenwich/Bedford/Purchase area, but I am totally open to your
> suggestions. Small gardens might be better than the large ones we roll
> by in the northern part of the county.
>
>
>
> This is a ride where no one gets dropped and opportunities to shoot are
> taken. The average pace will be that of a snail's and will provide
> allowances for you large format-type folk. I am speaking of the cameras
> of course!
>
>
>
> I would hope that we could nail that perfect weekend day where the trees
> and flowers are in bloom. What say ye? And PLEASE!!!!...what you do
> have to say, please direct to the WCCChat line of communication and not
> clog the Rides email system. I will not respond to communication in the
> Rides email system until the event has been planned using WCCChat.
>
>
>
> So, clean those lenses and give me your ideas.
>
>
>
> Kevan
>
>
>
>
>
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--- In WCCChat@yahoogroups.com, "Full, Kevan" <kfull@...> wrote:
>
> Susan,
>
>
>
> We will have another opportunity to give you a chance to learn how to
> change a tire.
>
>
>
> It was a pleasure meeting with other members of the club and I was very
> pleased at how everyone got their bicycle drive trains "almost" cleaned
> up, and watch them change out an inner tube with the speed and dexterity
> of a racecar pitman.  Remember class: practice, practice, practice!
>
>
>
> As I told the group, I'm just a guy that tinkers with my own bikes.  You
> folk that attended this class will likely tweak the tricks I taught and
> fine your own personal approach that works better for you.  The nice
> thing about bikes is they're made up of pretty simple machinery, as
> machinery goes these days, so their basic maintenance is relatively
> simple too. Here some websites that you can refer to as a refresher for
> a more thorough and possibly more proper approach:
>
>
>
> http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=24
>
>
>
> http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=100
>
>
>
> http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=71
>
>
>
> Safe and happy riding to you all,
>
>
>
> Kevan
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: WCCChat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WCCChat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Susan
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 7:41 AM
> To: WCCChat@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [WCCChat] Re: Handlebar taping
>
>
>
> Sounds great... really feel bad that I missed it, and so did everyone
> else stranded on the bus with me (feel bad for me, that is). :-) But
> what can you do about a broken bus radiator and a replacement bus that
> takes two hours to arrive? Sheesh. At least everyone was safe and
> unharmed.
>
>
>
> I too look forward to the next one.
>
>
>
> Susan
>
>
>
> On Mar 31, 2008, at 7:09 AM, Katie Marshall wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> A huge thank you to Kevan and all the others who helped out yesterday.
> I did oil my chain and change my tire.  They kept wanting to help me,
> gracious gentlemen that they are, and I had to bite one or two of them
> to get them to back off and let me do it myself.  They were gracious
> about that as well.  Apparently, I have a very dirty...chain and so I
> will need to oil and rub it daily for a while.  Now, I just need to wrap
> those handlebars.  When is the next session?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Kate,  I can't stop laughing at your jokes (re: chain work)....you're good.  Ave

--- In WCCChat@yahoogroups.com, "Katie Marshall" <kttrue@...> wrote:
>
> A huge thank you to Kevan and all the others who helped out yesterday.  I
> did oil my chain and change my tire.  They kept wanting to help me, gracious
> gentlemen that they are, and I had to bite one or two of them to get them to
> back off and let me do it myself.  They were gracious about that as well.
> Apparently, I have a very dirty...chain and so I will need to oil and rub it
> daily for a while.  Now, I just need to wrap those handlebars.  When is the
> next session?
>

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Kevan,  count me in!  I did 2 "Click n Ride" rides last season.  The
first one went to the Croton Dam and the 2nd went to Stone Barns.  Its
nice to have a destination as well as just stopping along the way when
something looks interesting.

I found this, but I don't know much about any of these destinations.
http://www.westchestertourism.com/DrivingTours/IOneGarden.htm

May 3 weekend works better for me (April 26 is Passover).

I don't know much about the Purchase/greenwich area, so I couldn't
help with routes.

Also, are there days when people open their gardens for tours-- do you
know anything about this? Anyone?

Shelly




--- In WCCChat@yahoogroups.com, "Full, Kevan" <kfull@...> wrote:
>
>  At some point late last year, I promised a few folk over a drink (that
> damn holiday punch!) that I'd lead a multi-level club ride geared more
> towards photography than robust riding.  Well, spring has sprung upon us
> and in one warm and sunny nook, at the base of Sherwood Avenue, if you
> noticed; the daffodils are already in bloom.  Those little flowers
> guilted (pardon the verbal stretch) me into getting this ride started.
> But I need from everyone interested some answers to two questions, which
> are: when should we hold this ride and where are the best places to go
> to see and shoot the colors?  I think it is still just a bit too early,
> but I want this event planned and a general route put in place.  I'm
> thinking the weekends of either April 26th or May3rd and the route to be
> in the Greenwich/Bedford/Purchase area, but I am totally open to your
> suggestions.  Small gardens might be better than the large ones we roll
> by in the northern part of the county.
>
>
>
> This is a ride where no one gets dropped and opportunities to shoot are
> taken.  The average pace will be that of a snail's and will provide
> allowances for you large format-type folk.  I am speaking of the cameras
> of course!
>
>
>
> I would hope that we could nail that perfect weekend day where the trees
> and flowers are in bloom.  What say ye?  And PLEASE!!!!...what you do
> have to say, please direct to the WCCChat line of communication and not
> clog the Rides email system.  I will not respond to communication in the
> Rides email system until the event has been planned using WCCChat.
>
>
>
> So, clean those lenses and give me your ideas.
>
>
>
> Kevan
>
>
>
>
>
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> quality regulated service from the utilities.
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To: WCCChat@yahoogroups.com
From: susan@...
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:59:40 -0400
Subject: Re: [WCCChat] Re: Handlebar taping

Will you be emailing your address directly to attendees, or will it be posted to the group? I hope to make it this Thursday.

Susan

On Mar 31, 2008, at 10:29 AM, William Oconnell wrote:

Again , Thanks to Kevan for doing a grat job yesterday!  I arrived late so I ended up changing my oil and lubing my tires, made it rough going home.  
For those of you who were unable to make it, Thursday eveing is still on at "Bill's garage".  
Hopefully one of our maintenance "gurus" like Kevan or Bruce will be able to attend to lead the group.  
If not we will muddle through, I promise not to lube anyone's tires!  The way I figure it, we will do another "basic session" this week and then decide where the group wants to go.  I for one would like to learn to do more complicated things, but I don't mind changing a few more flats for practice.  I also have some clunkers that I want to fix up for the pedals for progress event, so we can play with those as well.
Again, please:
1) let me know you are coming
2) bring your own workstand and basic tools 
3) if flats are your thing, bring your spare tubes, pumps, etc.
4) if there is something else you would like to do, bring the needed supplies.
5) wear a smile - you will be with friends
 
Bill

William F. O'Connell O.D., F.A.A.O.

Reiterating a common theme--Thank you Kevan!  Members
of our club who give of themselves are to be greatly
appreciated.  While standing in a parking lot changing
tires and greasing bikes may not be everyones' idea of
a great time, for those who participated yesterday,
and in the libations, it was!
David Karel

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To: WCCChat@yahoogroups.com
From: kttrue@...
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 07:09:02 -0400
Subject: Re: [WCCChat] Re: Handlebar taping

A huge thank you to Kevan and all the others who helped out yesterday.  I did oil my chain and change my tire.  They kept wanting to help me, gracious gentlemen that they are, and I had to bite one or two of them to get them to back off and let me do it myself.  They were gracious about that as well.  Apparently, I have a very dirty...chain and so I will need to oil and rub it daily for a while.  Now, I just need to wrap those handlebars.  When is the next session?

$L$l
David McKay Wilson
104 Topland Rd.
Mahopac, NY 10541
914-217-5600 (cell)
davidmckaywilson@...


-----Original Message-----
From: susan@...

Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:08:00
To:Wccchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WCCChat] Stranded in Manhattan


Hi bike maintenance folks,

  I'd hoped to make it to you today, but our school bus broke down in Manhattan,
so I have no idea what time I'll make it back. Hopefully next time!

  Susan

Hi bike maintenance folks,

I'd hoped to make it to you today, but our school bus broke down in Manhattan,
so I have no idea what time I'll make it back. Hopefully next time!

Susan

There is a lot of great cycling in Buffalo/ Niagara Falls. I'm from
Buffalo but I haven't done any riding there in quite a while.

There is the Niagara Riverwalk in Buffalo and using this along with
some other trails and some bike friendly roads you can ride up to
Niagara Falls state park on the American side.  There are also a lot
of trails on the Canadian side-- one paved trail goes up to Niagara-
on-the-Lake.  I believe that all the bridges between US/Canada are
bike friendly too.

http://www.gbnrtc.org/maps/ has maps for biking the Buffalo Niagara
region.


--- In WCCChat@yahoogroups.com, "Roz Kaufman" <sneezelady@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any information on riding in the Buffalo area or
on
> the Canadian side of the Falls?  We're considering a week or so
> vacation in the area in June.  Any leads for information or routes,
> would be helpful.
>
> Roz
>

Does anyone have any information on riding in the Buffalo area or on
the Canadian side of the Falls?  We're considering a week or so
vacation in the area in June.  Any leads for information or routes,
would be helpful.

Roz

OK.....seriously, John has done a wonderful job helping D riders
improve their skills.  This is not the first season that he has
reached out to slower riders, even though he could be spending his
time riding with much better and faster riders.

The error in the newsletter was an honest mistake. Although every
publication makes every effort to avoid this, it does happen.  I will
make sure that the next newsletter includes a proper correction

Thanks, John, for putting together these training rides.  I hope I
have another opportunity to write about the adventures of the Rough
Riders in the newsletter.  I promise to proof the copy to make sure
credit is given where credit is due.

Shelly





--- In WCCChat@yahoogroups.com, "John" <nyburbs@...> wrote:
>
> Folks....
>
> Any of you who've lead a ride knows it's a serious undertaking that
> requires time and effort to do execute properly.  As we're a
> volunteer based organization, individual club members efforts need to
> be recognized and not made fun of as it demotivates.
>
> Why articles contributed to a newsletter are edited before consulting
> with the individual author is a practice that needs to stop.  Let's
> avoid miscommunication by taking an extra step by checking with the
> authors before making assumptions.  It's those extra steps that
> distinguish us as we raise the bar as it's not just a game but
> serious play.
>
> Johnny P.
>
> --- In WCCChat@yahoogroups.com, "David McKay Wilson"
> <davidmckaywilson@> wrote:
> >
> > At least our johns aren't named Eliot.
> > David McKay Wilson
> > 104 Topland Rd.
> > Mahopac, NY 10541
> > 914-217-5600 (cell)
> > davidmckaywilson@
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: johnkaty@
> >
> > Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:27:01
> > To:WCCChat@yahoogroups.com
> > Cc:WCCChat@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [WCCChat] Official Correction and Associated Apology
> >
> >
> > That's one of the reasons that they assign client numbers to the
> Johns!
> >
> > John (no client number) Coppinger
> >
> > (ok, ok, you all knew that somebody just had to make a post like
> this given the direction the thread was going)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Katie Marshall
> > Date: Friday, March 28, 2008 2:59 pm
> > Subject: Re: [WCCChat] Official Correction and Associated Apology
> > To: WCCChat@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > Honey, it's OK. Sometimes it's hard to keep track of all the
> Johns.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Shelly
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would like to acknowledge a mistake that appeared in
> > > Volume 34 Issue
> > > > #4 of the Plain Spoke'n (that's the April 2008 club
> > > newsletter). In
> > > > the article "My Favorite Ride-- March Edition" (which appears
> > > on page
> > > > 8)of which I am the author, the Wrong John is listed as the ride
> > > > leader. John Milano is a great guy, but he did not lead the
> lead.
> > > > The leader was in fact, John Petti, Ride Leader
> > > Extroadinairre. John
> > > > Petti is the Right John. My apologies to Both Johns (but
> especially
> > > > the Right John) for this editing screw-up. I would like to add
> that
> > > > as far as I know (which is not very far), John Petti had
> > > nothing to do
> > > > with clogging up the toilet at Swan's Deli.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to take this occasion to acknowledge the fine
> > > work that
> > > > John (Petti) has been doing as a ride leader. In a few short
> weeks,
> > > > he has elevated a bunch of slow pokes into the Rough Riders,
> > > using a
> > > > combination of education, humor, and tire changing skills. I
> > > am proud
> > > > to be one of the Rough Riders. We may not ride fast, but we
> > > want to
> > > > ride fast. Let's all take a few moments to say "Thank you, John
> > > > Petti, for your dedication and commitment to bringing out the
> > > best in
> > > > all of us."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Folks....

Any of you who've lead a ride knows it's a serious undertaking that
requires time and effort to do execute properly.  As we're a
volunteer based organization, individual club members efforts need to
be recognized and not made fun of as it demotivates.

Why articles contributed to a newsletter are edited before consulting
with the individual author is a practice that needs to stop.  Let's
avoid miscommunication by taking an extra step by checking with the
authors before making assumptions.  It's those extra steps that
distinguish us as we raise the bar as it's not just a game but
serious play.

Johnny P.

--- In WCCChat@yahoogroups.com, "David McKay Wilson"
<davidmckaywilson@...> wrote:
>
> At least our johns aren't named Eliot.
> David McKay Wilson
> 104 Topland Rd.
> Mahopac, NY 10541
> 914-217-5600 (cell)
> davidmckaywilson@...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: johnkaty@...
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:27:01
> To:WCCChat@yahoogroups.com
> Cc:WCCChat@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [WCCChat] Official Correction and Associated Apology
>
>
> That's one of the reasons that they assign client numbers to the
Johns!
>  
> John (no client number) Coppinger
>  
> (ok, ok, you all knew that somebody just had to make a post like
this given the direction the thread was going)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Katie Marshall
> Date: Friday, March 28, 2008 2:59 pm
> Subject: Re: [WCCChat] Official Correction and Associated Apology
> To: WCCChat@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Honey, it's OK. Sometimes it's hard to keep track of all the
Johns.
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Shelly
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I would like to acknowledge a mistake that appeared in
> > Volume 34 Issue
> > > #4 of the Plain Spoke'n (that's the April 2008 club
> > newsletter). In
> > > the article "My Favorite Ride-- March Edition" (which appears
> > on page
> > > 8)of which I am the author, the Wrong John is listed as the ride
> > > leader. John Milano is a great guy, but he did not lead the
lead.
> > > The leader was in fact, John Petti, Ride Leader
> > Extroadinairre. John
> > > Petti is the Right John. My apologies to Both Johns (but
especially
> > > the Right John) for this editing screw-up. I would like to add
that
> > > as far as I know (which is not very far), John Petti had
> > nothing to do
> > > with clogging up the toilet at Swan's Deli.
> > >
> > > I would like to take this occasion to acknowledge the fine
> > work that
> > > John (Petti) has been doing as a ride leader. In a few short
weeks,
> > > he has elevated a bunch of slow pokes into the Rough Riders,
> > using a
> > > combination of education, humor, and tire changing skills. I
> > am proud
> > > to be one of the Rough Riders. We may not ride fast, but we
> > want to
> > > ride fast. Let's all take a few moments to say "Thank you, John
> > > Petti, for your dedication and commitment to bringing out the
> > best in
> > > all of us."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

I am one of Johnny's Rough Riders and am proud to say that I have
officially moved up from being a D plus rider to a C minus! This is a
huge accomplishment for me. I have to give credit to John Petti for his
time and dedication he has given during his Training Rides. I am
looking forward to more riding challenges and training sessions as I
have so much more to learn. Thanks Johnny!

At least our johns aren't named Eliot.
David McKay Wilson
104 Topland Rd.
Mahopac, NY 10541
914-217-5600 (cell)
davidmckaywilson@...


-----Original Message-----
From: johnkaty@...

Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:27:01
To:WCCChat@yahoogroups.com
Cc:WCCChat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WCCChat] Official Correction and Associated Apology


That's one of the reasons that they assign client numbers to the Johns!
 
John (no client number) Coppinger
 
(ok, ok, you all knew that somebody just had to make a post like this given the
direction the thread was going)

----- Original Message -----
From: Katie Marshall
Date: Friday, March 28, 2008 2:59 pm
Subject: Re: [WCCChat] Official Correction and Associated Apology
To: WCCChat@yahoogroups.com

> Honey, it's OK. Sometimes it's hard to keep track of all the Johns.
>
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Shelly
> wrote:
>
> > I would like to acknowledge a mistake that appeared in
> Volume 34 Issue
> > #4 of the Plain Spoke'n (that's the April 2008 club
> newsletter). In
> > the article "My Favorite Ride-- March Edition" (which appears
> on page
> > 8)of which I am the author, the Wrong John is listed as the ride
> > leader. John Milano is a great guy, but he did not lead the lead.
> > The leader was in fact, John Petti, Ride Leader
> Extroadinairre. John
> > Petti is the Right John. My apologies to Both Johns (but especially
> > the Right John) for this editing screw-up. I would like to add that
> > as far as I know (which is not very far), John Petti had
> nothing to do
> > with clogging up the toilet at Swan's Deli.
> >
> > I would like to take this occasion to acknowledge the fine
> work that
> > John (Petti) has been doing as a ride leader. In a few short weeks,
> > he has elevated a bunch of slow pokes into the Rough Riders,
> using a
> > combination of education, humor, and tire changing skills. I
> am proud
> > to be one of the Rough Riders. We may not ride fast, but we
> want to
> > ride fast. Let's all take a few moments to say "Thank you, John
> > Petti, for your dedication and commitment to bringing out the
> best in
> > all of us."
> >
> >
> >
>