B,
I agree with everything you stated. The definitions
I got are from the website.
http://www.westchestercycleclub.org/rideschedule.php
Just scroll down to the bottom of the page. Maybe
the definitions should be on top so riders can know in
advance what and A - D ride is.

Experimenting with category changes can be good to
figure out what works best for all riders. But iIf
the board voted to change the ride types, it is a good
idea to notify the public of the changes.

I guess everyone else is fine with the speeding up of
the rides?

A.
--- Bruce Wells <bkwells@...> wrote:

> Adrienne,
>
> The board voted to change the speed of the ride
> categories a few
> months back. I think the web site has not been
> updated, but I don't
> specifically see where you are quoting from. I for
> one was opposed to
> the change. I believe the newsletter is correct.
>
> While bikes have gotten better and speeds have
> increased, I think it
> is the riders that should move up to another level.
> I went on a B+
> ride earlier this year and it was an A ride for
> about 1/2 the riders.
> It was sad to see that that true B+ riders were
> being dropped, but
> that is what happened, the "A" riders where in the
> lead group, and the
> B+ riders where trailing behind, and I was not in
> front, but helping
> the B+ rides to stay with the lead pack.
>
> I think I convinced some of the "A" riders to ride A
> now and two are
> now leading A rides, as they should be, since they
> are very strong
> riders, but most of them I am sure are still pushing
> the pace on the
> B+ rides. The tendency is for riders to continue to
> ride with the
> same group they started with, rather than move up to
> a faster level.
> I started as a C rider. I still see those people at
> parties, but I
> don't ride with them any more. I've moved up with
> my skill level.
> Everyone else should do the same and stop torturing
> riders who are
> riding at the advertised pace.
>
> The sad fact of the matter is we need to keep slower
> levels slower for
> new riders, and should not make category jumps so
> large that it is
> impossible to move up one level. One mile per hour
> difference in
> average speed is a large jump at the higher levels,
> not so much going
> from D to C, but what I see is more experienced
> riders still riding at
> the lower paced rides and destroying the ability to
> get new members to
> keep up when they should be able to. It is just
> plain selfish to ride
> on a ride below your level and be at the front of
> the ride. If you
> want to ride at a lower level, help the riders in
> the back keep up
> with the pack, don't push the pace just so you can
> think you are some
> sort of "super" rider. In cycling there is always
> someone faster than
> you.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Bruce
>
> > Ride Category Has anyone else
> noticed the change?
> > Posted by: "Adrienne"
> adriennedsp@...
> adriennedsp
> > Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:28 am (PST)
> > I participated in a great ride on
> Sunday. The cue
> > > sheet, scenery and people on the ride added to
> the
> > > enjoyment. I found that combining two ride
> > > categories with 2 leaders is a great concept
> which can
> > > help catch those riders who get flats or want
> to slow
> > > down a bit. I got a flat, and ended up riding
> with the C- folks
> > who caught up to me as I was ready to start
> again. (Thank you Renee
> > for staying & helping me)
> > >
> > > The ride was was labeled C+ and C-. It seems
> that some C- folks
> > who enjoyed the company and scenery, found some
> of the hills such as
> > Whipoorwill, Taylor, and Sheather as too
> challenging. There were
> > quite a few hill walkers on the ride.
> > >
> > > So tonight I decided to research the club
> website to find
> > > out the definition of the new C+ and C-
> categories that defined
> > these two rides. The below are definitions of
> the C and C+ paced
> > rides that I extracted in verbatim from the
> website.
> > >
> > > "C+ Fast - average speed 11 - 13 mph,
> average speed on
> > > flats 15 - 16 mph, breaks every 15 > to 20
> miles
> > > C Fast - average speed 11 - 13 mph,
> average speed on
> > > flats 15 - 16 mph, breaks every 15 > to 20
> miles"
> > >
> > Both C categories sound the same to me. Now that
> we have C and C+
> > and C-, categories, can anyone figure out what's
> the difference
> > between them?
> > Terrain?
> > Thanks, Adrienne
> >
> >
>




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