I also think games to 21 are much better for the reasons Ray
and Marc have mentioned. Also luck, something Marc knows a
lot about!!! can have much more of an effect in games up to
11.

Cheers

Selwyn Walmsley

----- Original Message -----
From: "rayjordan81" <raymond_jordan@ hotmail.com>
To: UK_RACKETLON@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [UK_RACKETLON] Re: Few Questions for Players -
Discussion / Feedback /
Date: 10-Oct-2007 20:35:55 +0100

> I detest 11-up with a passion; you may as well turn up in
> a suit, dinner jacket and bow tie, hiot for 3 seconds and
> then move to the next sport with the amount of playing
> time it sometimes gives you.
>
> Because knocking up, finding your opponent, moving between
> sports grabbing a quick drink of water and looking for
> your next racket takes up so much match time (I'd like to
> do some research into this -
> in fact I will) compared to perhaps what it should do,
> increasing the length of games from 11 to 21 certainly
> doesn't double the time. Because of course all the
> preparation bits (mentioned above) will remain the same
> in duration, but you will play twice as many points -
> this will make matches much more efficient if you look at
> the "time spent playing points vs the time spent faffing
> about" ratio.
>
> I have now decided to prove myself right and write a
> questionnaire for everyone at the next event to fill out.
>
>
>
> --- In UK_RACKETLON@ yahoogroups. com, Marc Burman
> <marcburman@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys just thoguht I would mention
> >
> > That I much prefer the up to 21 system, the 11 system
> is too short.
> >
> > In particular table tennis suffers from up to 11 as
> the match can be over in literally minutes, having made
> you feel you almost havnt played.
> >
> > also up to 21 makes you feel as though you are getting
> value for money, in essence you are playing, 84 points,
> and you have the chance to get involved in a real meaty
> match, that equates to a real battle between you and your
> > opponent.
> > if you down in up to 11 its very hard to come back.
> >
> > Thats my personal opinion.
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > Marc
> >
> > WILLIAM FORD <dayanford@. ..> wrote:
> > Personally prefer 21 up or maybe 15. I find
> 11 too short. However, it will depend on whether
> tournament is 1 or 2 days. Sundays is preferable to
> Saturdays if one day only - some people have to work on
> > Saturdays or have other commitments!
> > Cost seems ok. It's often dependent on how much we
> have to pay the venue so finding sympathetic venues is
> key. What about a discount if you play a certain number
> of tournaments during the year? Play 6 get 1 half price!!
> Sorry, Keith, don't know if we can afford that.....
> >
> > License not a bad idea. Again gives incentive to play
> more often. And to help that, 1 day tournaments (or
> doubles on Sat/singles on Sun) is probably the way
> forward for the majority of the tour.
> >
> > We need more venues - if anyone has any good ideas for
> where a tournament can be played - pls advise.
> >
> > Dominique
> >
> >
> > Keith Lesser <keith.lesser@ ...> wrote:
> > come on guys - I know we do a good job, but this
> is your chance to have your input and shape 2008 and
> > beyond...... ....!
> > My twopence for what its worth:
> >
> > 1. I prefer 11 up and shorter events (more attractive as
> only take a day rather than a whole weekend)
> > 2. Training Camp I'm up for whenever
> > 3. I'd like to introduce a season license for British
> Events so that once you have played 4 events you get the
> value of that license back. So the season license would
> cost £10 and a per event license would be £2.50.
> > Something along those lines....... ..
> > Cheers
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: "Keith Lesser" keith.lesser@ ...
> > Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 12:23:09 +0200
> > To: "UK Racketlon Discussion Group"
> > UK_Racketlon@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [UK_RACKETLON] Few
> Questions for Players - Discussion / Feedback /
> >
> > > Right firstly, Id like to apologise for the
> "inappropriate" emails you may have received from this
> > > group.
> > > Ive changed the membership settings so new members
> need to be approved. So should put a stop to this!
> > >
> > > I've got a few questions for discussions/ feedback
> amongst players:
> > >
> > > 1. Proposed Training Camp for 2008 - Centre Parcs and
> Norwich Sports Village are being tabled as potential
> venues. Any thoughts on dates? Would a summer camp suit,
> or a spring or winter camp? When would be best? Loads of
> > > players, loads of practice, winning formula?
> > > 2. Pricing - Were the 2007 Tournament charges for
> players good value for money / should we charge more/less
> in 2008 / how does this compare to other sports, people
> participate in? Do you think a racketlon membership fee
> is a good idea and how much should be charged for this,
> what could/should it include? Would a per tournament
> > > license fee work v a season license fee?
> > > 3. 11 or 21, structure/categorie s of events? Hard to
> have age and band as players tend to enter both creating
> a difficult schedule and sometimes too tough on stamina?
> Whats the optimum - one day 11 tournaments? Say 8 a year?
> Two day 21 tournaments, 4 a year? Stick to one scoring
> > > system? Is 15 ok? Whats best?
> > > 4. Anything else……..?
> > >
> > > In the interim period between now and January we are
> identifying which of these ideas are best. 2 Main
> Priorities continue to be the set-up of the English
> Racketlon association (imminent) - a letter of approval
> is with Sports England, Companies House have the
> documentation. And up to date content on racketlon.co. uk -
> which is still being worked on.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Keith
> > >
> > > Thks,
> > >
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