I had a new idea for the format of events and was keen to get players thoughts.
1 Day Events would default to the Sundays and 2 Day Events could adopt this
format:

Saturdays:

Team Event

Teams of 4 (3 Men and 1 Lady) play in a team competition (Monrad Format)

Format - 11-up (like World Champs team event)
Individuals can enter "Team Wanted" Category if unable to make up a team.

Can have categories - A & B?

One Match each

1v1
2v2
3v3
LadyvLady

Add up all the points to get the winning team (every point counts!)

What could the eligibility of teams be? Counties / Clubs / Regions / Anything?

Should there be restrictions so Top 20 players can only play at "Number One" ?

Cost? £60 per team Pay in Advance, £80 Pay on the Day?

Sundays:

Singles Competitions - 21 up - Mens A,B,C,D & Ladies.

Aiming for 3 games a player, with a 4th round final (16 player Monrads….)

Disadvantage: Players only play 3 matches so would finish Joint 10th and only
1st and 2nd would finish their Monrad……………

Cost? £22.50 per player pay in advance, £25 Pay on the Day? (Same as this year)

(No License scheme - but entry includes free membership to the "ERA"

Thoughts?

-----Original message-----
From: "swalmsley" swalmsley@...
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:49:58 +0200
To: UK_RACKETLON@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [UK_RACKETLON] Re: Few Questions for Players - Discussion /
Feedback /

> I also think games to 21 are much better for the reasons Ray
> and Marc have mentioned. Also luck, something Marc knows a
> lot about!!! can have much more of an effect in games up to
> 11.
>
> Cheers
>
> Selwyn Walmsley
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rayjordan81" <raymond_jordan@...>
> To: UK_RACKETLON@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [UK_RACKETLON] Re: Few Questions for Players -
> Discussion / Feedback /
> Date: 10-Oct-2007 20:35:55 +0100
>
> > I detest 11-up with a passion; you may as well turn up in
> > a suit, dinner jacket and bow tie, hiot for 3 seconds and
> > then move to the next sport with the amount of playing
> > time it sometimes gives you.
> >
> > Because knocking up, finding your opponent, moving between
> > sports grabbing a quick drink of water and looking for
> > your next racket takes up so much match time (I'd like to
> > do some research into this -
> > in fact I will) compared to perhaps what it should do,
> > increasing the length of games from 11 to 21 certainly
> > doesn't double the time. Because of course all the
> > preparation bits (mentioned above) will remain the same
> > in duration, but you will play twice as many points -
> > this will make matches much more efficient if you look at
> > the "time spent playing points vs the time spent faffing
> > about" ratio.
> >
> > I have now decided to prove myself right and write a
> > questionnaire for everyone at the next event to fill out.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In UK_RACKETLON@yahoogroups.com, Marc Burman
> > <marcburman@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi guys just thoguht I would mention
> > >
> > > That I much prefer the up to 21 system, the 11 system
> > is too short.
> > >
> > > In particular table tennis suffers from up to 11 as
> > the match can be over in literally minutes, having made
> > you feel you almost havnt played.
> > >
> > > also up to 21 makes you feel as though you are getting
> > value for money, in essence you are playing, 84 points,
> > and you have the chance to get involved in a real meaty
> > match, that equates to a real battle between you and your
> > > opponent.
> > > if you down in up to 11 its very hard to come back.
> > >
> > > Thats my personal opinion.
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > > Marc
> > >
> > > WILLIAM FORD <dayanford@...> wrote:
> > > Personally prefer 21 up or maybe 15. I find
> > 11 too short. However, it will depend on whether
> > tournament is 1 or 2 days. Sundays is preferable to
> > Saturdays if one day only - some people have to work on
> > > Saturdays or have other commitments!
> > > Cost seems ok. It's often dependent on how much we
> > have to pay the venue so finding sympathetic venues is
> > key. What about a discount if you play a certain number
> > of tournaments during the year? Play 6 get 1 half price!!
> > Sorry, Keith, don't know if we can afford that.....
> > >
> > > License not a bad idea. Again gives incentive to play
> > more often. And to help that, 1 day tournaments (or
> > doubles on Sat/singles on Sun) is probably the way
> > forward for the majority of the tour.
> > >
> > > We need more venues - if anyone has any good ideas for
> > where a tournament can be played - pls advise.
> > >
> > > Dominique
> > >
> > >
> > > Keith Lesser <keith.lesser@...> wrote:
> > > come on guys - I know we do a good job, but this
> > is your chance to have your input and shape 2008 and
> > > beyond..........!
> > > My twopence for what its worth:
> > >
> > > 1. I prefer 11 up and shorter events (more attractive as
> > only take a day rather than a whole weekend)
> > > 2. Training Camp I'm up for whenever
> > > 3. I'd like to introduce a season license for British
> > Events so that once you have played 4 events you get the
> > value of that license back. So the season license would
> > cost £10 and a per event license would be £2.50.
> > > Something along those lines.........
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Keith
> > >
> > > -----Original message-----
> > > From: "Keith Lesser" keith.lesser@...
> > > Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 12:23:09 +0200
> > > To: "UK Racketlon Discussion Group"
> > > UK_Racketlon@yahoogroups.com Subject: [UK_RACKETLON] Few
> > Questions for Players - Discussion / Feedback /
> > >
> > > > Right firstly, Id like to apologise for the
> > "inappropriate" emails you may have received from this
> > > > group.
> > > > Ive changed the membership settings so new members
> > need to be approved. So should put a stop to this!
> > > >
> > > > I've got a few questions for discussions/feedback
> > amongst players:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Proposed Training Camp for 2008 - Centre Parcs and
> > Norwich Sports Village are being tabled as potential
> > venues. Any thoughts on dates? Would a summer camp suit,
> > or a spring or winter camp? When would be best? Loads of
> > > > players, loads of practice, winning formula?
> > > > 2. Pricing - Were the 2007 Tournament charges for
> > players good value for money / should we charge more/less
> > in 2008 / how does this compare to other sports, people
> > participate in? Do you think a racketlon membership fee
> > is a good idea and how much should be charged for this,
> > what could/should it include? Would a per tournament
> > > > license fee work v a season license fee?
> > > > 3. 11 or 21, structure/categories of events? Hard to
> > have age and band as players tend to enter both creating
> > a difficult schedule and sometimes too tough on stamina?
> > Whats the optimum - one day 11 tournaments? Say 8 a year?
> > Two day 21 tournaments, 4 a year? Stick to one scoring
> > > > system? Is 15 ok? Whats best?
> > > > 4. Anything else……..?
> > > >
> > > > In the interim period between now and January we are
> > identifying which of these ideas are best. 2 Main
> > Priorities continue to be the set-up of the English
> > Racketlon association (imminent) - a letter of approval
> > is with Sports England, Companies House have the
> > documentation. And up to date content on racketlon.co.uk -
> > which is still being worked on.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > Keith
> > > >
> > > > Thks,
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Keith Lesser
> > > > UK Tour Director
> > > > Mixed Doubles Specialist
> > > >
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> > > >
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