I detest 11-up with a passion; you may as well turn up in a suit,
dinner jacket and bow tie, hiot for 3 seconds and then move to the
next sport with the amount of playing time it sometimes gives you.

Because knocking up, finding your opponent, moving between sports
grabbing a quick drink of water and looking for your next racket
takes up so much match time (I'd like to do some research into this -
in fact I will) compared to perhaps what it should do, increasing
the length of games from 11 to 21 certainly doesn't double the time.
Because of course all the preparation bits (mentioned above) will
remain the same in duration, but you will play twice as many points -
this will make matches much more efficient if you look at the "time
spent playing points vs the time spent faffing about" ratio.

I have now decided to prove myself right and write a questionnaire
for everyone at the next event to fill out.



--- In UK_RACKETLON@yahoogroups.com, Marc Burman <marcburman@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi guys just thoguht I would mention
>
> That I much prefer the up to 21 system, the 11 system is too
short.
>
> In particular table tennis suffers from up to 11 as the match
can be over in literally minutes, having made you feel you almost
havnt played.
>
> also up to 21 makes you feel as though you are getting value for
money, in essence you are playing, 84 points, and you have the
chance to get involved in a real meaty match, that equates to a real
battle between you and your opponent.
>
> if you down in up to 11 its very hard to come back.
>
> Thats my personal opinion.
>
> cheers
>
> Marc
>
> WILLIAM FORD <dayanford@...> wrote:
> Personally prefer 21 up or maybe 15. I find 11 too
short. However, it will depend on whether tournament is 1 or 2 days.
Sundays is preferable to Saturdays if one day only - some people
have to work on Saturdays or have other commitments!
>
> Cost seems ok. It's often dependent on how much we have to pay
the venue so finding sympathetic venues is key. What about a
discount if you play a certain number of tournaments during the
year? Play 6 get 1 half price!! Sorry, Keith, don't know if we can
afford that.....
>
> License not a bad idea. Again gives incentive to play more
often. And to help that, 1 day tournaments (or doubles on
Sat/singles on Sun) is probably the way forward for the majority of
the tour.
>
> We need more venues - if anyone has any good ideas for where a
tournament can be played - pls advise.
>
> Dominique
>
>
> Keith Lesser <keith.lesser@...> wrote:
> come on guys - I know we do a good job, but this is your
chance to have your input and shape 2008 and beyond..........!
>
> My twopence for what its worth:
>
> 1. I prefer 11 up and shorter events (more attractive as only take
a day rather than a whole weekend)
> 2. Training Camp I'm up for whenever
> 3. I'd like to introduce a season license for British Events so
that once you have played 4 events you get the value of that license
back. So the season license would cost £10 and a per event license
would be £2.50. Something along those lines.........
>
> Cheers
>
> Keith
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: "Keith Lesser" keith.lesser@...
> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 12:23:09 +0200
> To: "UK Racketlon Discussion Group" UK_Racketlon@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [UK_RACKETLON] Few Questions for Players - Discussion /
Feedback /
>
> > Right firstly, Id like to apologise for the "inappropriate"
emails you may have received from this group.
> >
> > Ive changed the membership settings so new members need to be
approved. So should put a stop to this!
> >
> > I've got a few questions for discussions/feedback amongst
players:
> >
> > 1. Proposed Training Camp for 2008 - Centre Parcs and Norwich
Sports Village are being tabled as potential venues. Any thoughts on
dates? Would a summer camp suit, or a spring or winter camp? When
would be best? Loads of players, loads of practice, winning formula?
> >
> > 2. Pricing - Were the 2007 Tournament charges for players good
value for money / should we charge more/less in 2008 / how does this
compare to other sports, people participate in? Do you think a
racketlon membership fee is a good idea and how much should be
charged for this, what could/should it include? Would a per
tournament license fee work v a season license fee?
> >
> > 3. 11 or 21, structure/categories of events? Hard to have age
and band as players tend to enter both creating a difficult schedule
and sometimes too tough on stamina? Whats the optimum - one day 11
tournaments? Say 8 a year? Two day 21 tournaments, 4 a year? Stick
to one scoring system? Is 15 ok? Whats best?
> >
> > 4. Anything else……..?
> >
> > In the interim period between now and January we are identifying
which of these ideas are best. 2 Main Priorities continue to be the
set-up of the English Racketlon association (imminent) - a letter of
approval is with Sports England, Companies House have the
documentation. And up to date content on racketlon.co.uk - which is
still being worked on.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > Thks,
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> > Keith Lesser
> > UK Tour Director
> > Mixed Doubles Specialist
> >
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> >
> > Racketlon: The person with the most points wins!
> >
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