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Kentucky Derby winner

> How good is the winner of this years Kentucky Derby we did not hear much of
> it once the Godolphin/Frankie Dettori horse was withdrawn.
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> Look forward to hearing from you soon
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> Steve

Hi Steve,

I think Monarchos is a nice horse -- it wasn't a fluke win. He had already
won the Florida Derby earlier this year against good company and would
probably have been bet down more at Churchill Downs if he hadn't lost his
last start before the Kentucky Derby. Also, his trainer was criticized
before the race, and some people thought the horse might not be 100%,
because he had no workouts the week before the Derby. Now it seems the
trainer knew what he was doing <g>.

It's great news for his sire, Maria's Mon, who was a very good horse at a
mile or at nine furlongs. Monarchos is from his first crop of foals -- nice
to have a Kentucky Derby winner in your first crop! It was a good win for
smaller breeders, too. The breeder was lucky and had purchased the
broodmare (very well bred) for just $13,000. The stud fee for Maria's Mon
was only $7,500 at the time. So, in this case a Derby winner was bred for a
little over $20,000: pretty modest compared to most "classic" breedings.
It was a very smart breeding from a pedigree point of view.

Point Given was the favorite for the Derby, but he's a monster-sized horse,
over 17 hands and very muscled and filled out for a young three year old.
His jockey has made some comments that the track compromised his horse's
chances. I don't know if I buy that, but it's true the track was raked thin
and was super hard (dirt, of course) that day. There were two or three
track records set earlier in the day on the same card. I guess an extra
hard track could hurt a very large horse, but Monarchos is no shrimp. I
think he also stands about 17 hands, though he's lighter than Point Given.

The Preakness looks to be wide open at this point. The best horses from the
Derby will be back, and two or three new speed horses are also expected.
Totally different track in every way. Sharp turns may hurt the bigger
horses. Congaree may do well. He ran a good third in the Kentucky Derby,
but the shorter distance of the Preakness may be just what he likes. Arazi
is his sire.

Carlotta Cooper




Sun May 13, 2001 6:28 am

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Hi Folks, As a new member I thought i'd introduce myself. My name is Steve and I live in Burnley Lancs. My favourite Jockey is Kieran Fallon who I have...
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Hello there I think you are flogging a dead horse here; this group is totally inactive and suggest that you should try some others 'winners enclosure' might be...
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May 12, 2001
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Gerald Simpson writes: > Hello there > > I think you are flogging a dead horse here; > this group is totally inactive and suggest > that you should try some...
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May 12, 2001
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hi all from another member who wondered if he was the only person alive on this group. nice to hear from others. maybe someone can suggest a topic to chat...
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May 12, 2001
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Hi Perry, Nice to know there is someone there. Nice idea about the horse info. I will be glad to share my thoughts on anything I fancy to win and hopefully...
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hi steve having seen a reply on the morning line thi morning, why didn't he look behind before easy on the horse. i think ban is long enough, but maybe a fine...
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May 12, 2001
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I'm glad to see some talk on this list, too. I guess I've been hesitant to say anything because I'm in the U.S. Do those of you in the UK believe that horse...
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Carlotta Cooper writes: > I'm glad to see some talk on this list, too. I guess I've been hesitant to > say anything because I'm in the U.S. > Hi Carlotta,...
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... Hi Steve, I think Monarchos is a nice horse -- it wasn't a fluke win. He had already won the Florida Derby earlier this year against good company and...
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Hi Perry, I think at any track Daryll probably would have looked round but with Chester being so tight horses dont usually come from Adilabads position to...
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hi Steve have to agree money talks, but as one of the backers of island house,, I back the horse assuming it gets a run to the line. appreciate that chester is...
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Perry Capon writes: > hi Steve > > have to agree money talks, but as one of the backers of island house,, I back the horse assuming it gets a run to the...
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May 12, 2001
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HI Folks Well the 4 of us seem to have a put some life into the group. There have been more messages today than the last couple of months put together. Lets...
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May 12, 2001
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hi all have to agree Steve, may this trend continue. regards Perry ... From: 'steve marriott' To: UK_Horse_Racing@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001...
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May 12, 2001
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Hi All, Judging by Mr. Holland's performance of the last two to three weeks one could say that this is one of the best things that has ever happened to him. ...
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Jul 1, 2001
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Hi MTT, Totally agree about Daryll, he has been riding superbly since his ban. Certainly sticking two fingers up at the clowns who said he should be banned...
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Hi Carlotta. hard to speak about decline in USA as don't much about the racing there, but knowing that a racing card for them can have a lot more races on...
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Hello USA I am not sure you can suggest it is marginal when around 150,000 people went to the Kentucky Derby. If my understanding was correct this was the...
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... Hi GWS, ... Unfortunately, it wouldn't be the first time I didn't know what I was talking about <g>, but the Kentucky Derby (and the Triple Crown races in ...
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