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Ok, I went up to the dance studio (first time I've driven in a while)
and checked out the "dibsing roster" (or whatever). Somebody had
reserved the room from 10:00-12:00. I was thinking of reserving the
room at 12:30, but I remember Alisa said that Mark said that the all
the rooms were reserved until 2:30pm. I didn't want to risk it writing
in an earlier time, thus I wrote down "Shotokan Karate Club -
2:30pm-4:00pm"

So, we're all settled for this Saturday. Dance room. Nice and big for
lots of recruits! (hopefully)

vivalaecolution wrote:

> Hello Everyone!
>
> I'm coming back, but I need a new gi because I ripped mine
> spectacularly in jujitsu.  Any suggestions as to were I can purchase a
> good one?
>
> Hopefully I'll see you all soon,
>
> -Jess

Tori Valencia mentioned at the Fall Festival yesterday that
she has a size 4 heavyweight KI uniform available for a
VERY reasonable price (I believe less than half the $80
purchase price?).  Of course if anyone want the highest
quality uniforms, please see the following website:
http://www.tokaidojapan.com/
I have set up a 10% discount for UCSC dojo members.
(FYI: I run international sales for Tokaido)
Just enter "UCSC" for the discount code.  Of course
Tokaido products cost a lot. But if you have the money,
and are committed to your Karate training, they may
be worth the investment.

If anyone wants a relatively good quality uniform but
can't afford a Tokaido, please let me know your size
(or height & weight) ASAP and I can get one at a discount
for you and bring it down this Saturday.  These are,
if I recall correctly, "Hayashi" brand.  They are
usually about $65 retail and I can get them for you
for about $50-53.  I have to go to the shop anyway this
Saturday morning to pick up uniforms for the 36 or
so kids I just started teaching.

Hope to see many of you this Saturday afternoon.
-Jon Keeling

So, the plan is to have the First Meeting with Keeling be this
Saturday at 2:30. As Alisa said, the rooms are available at 2:30.

Alisa, do you know which rooms are available? Do you know if we have
to let Mark know which one we want, or can we just show up? If it's
the former, can you be a dear and reserve the Dance Studio for 2:30
(or the earliest time available)? I think the first training will have
the most attendance, so we'll want a big room.

Thanks!

Kyle

Thanks for the recommendation.  I'm thrilled to be starting again; I
really missed training.

More triumphant for my rolling partner, who flung me across the mat :p

--- In UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com, "Kyle Abbott" <fiddlefella@...>
wrote:
>
> Hey Jess,
>
> -because I ripped mine spectacularly in jujitsu.
> I sense a bit of triumph in the phrase! ;-)
>
> Well, I assume you mean "good" as in heavyweight. Online, you can get
> one from tokon.com.
> Gi are also sold locally at Zen Cultural Centre, though I don't think
> they carry heavyweight.
>
> Glad to see you back!
>
> Kyle
>
> --- In UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com, "vivalaecolution" <jtibor@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Everyone!
> >
> > I'm coming back, but I need a new gi because I ripped mine
> > spectacularly in jujitsu.  Any suggestions as to were I can purchase a
> > good one?
> >
> > Hopefully I'll see you all soon,
> >
> > -Jess
> >
>

Hey Jess,

-because I ripped mine spectacularly in jujitsu.
I sense a bit of triumph in the phrase! ;-)

Well, I assume you mean "good" as in heavyweight. Online, you can get
one from tokon.com.
Gi are also sold locally at Zen Cultural Centre, though I don't think
they carry heavyweight.

Glad to see you back!

Kyle

--- In UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com, "vivalaecolution" <jtibor@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone!
>
> I'm coming back, but I need a new gi because I ripped mine
> spectacularly in jujitsu.  Any suggestions as to were I can purchase a
> good one?
>
> Hopefully I'll see you all soon,
>
> -Jess
>

Hey there Ekapol!

Thanks for the offer. I'll take a look and let you know.

To everybody else (including Ekapol of course), I finished writing up
the new, fleshed out text on the googlegroup and temporarily finished
the pictures (though I may replace a few with ekapol's). So, take a
look and let me know what you think.
http://groups.google.com/group/ucsc-shotokan-karate-club


--- In UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com, Ekapol Rojpiboonphun
<ekapol_jka@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Kyle,
>  
> Please feel free to browse pictures at www.ekapolphotograply.com and
let me know which pictures you want to use and I'll set it up so you
can download the pictures for free.
>  
> Cheers,
> Ekapol.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>
>
> --- On Tue, 9/23/08, Kyle Abbott <fiddlefella@...> wrote:
>
> From: Kyle Abbott <fiddlefella@...>
> Subject: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall Festival, Sep 23
> To: UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 8:55 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Oh, final thing. I'm just gonna make a few changes to the googlegroup
> before sending out the invitations. A few things to take out. For
> starters, the class schedule which currently it says, "Somebody,
> please train with us!" and the most recent thread, "the UCSC Shotokan
> Karate Club will survive and eventually thrive!" That can't be
> encouraging to prospective members.
>
> Plus, I'll add some training pictures to the front page. JonW, are you
> still waiting for your computer to boot up? ;-)
>
> --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com, "Kyle Abbott" <fiddlefella@ ...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Gloria,
> >
> > Good to hear from you.
> >
> > Oh no, that's terrible! I'm sorry to hear that. Did you ever get to go
> > back to Athens?
> >
> > Well you know, I've always thought that Wheelchair Karate has been
> > unfairly underrated. ;-)
> >
> > Thanks for the update, and I hope the screw does the trick!
> >
> > Take it easy but take it,
> >
> > Kyle
> >
> > --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com, Gloria Chatzopoulou <dhatzop@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Greetings from Riverside!
> > >
> > > My news since I left are:
> > > I left Santa Cruz July 10, I drove to Riverside and decided to try
> the
> > > karate here before flying back home July 13. On Saturday July 12
they
> > > had sparring at 9am. It's interesting to mention that the group (at
> > > least that day) was mostly women! It was pretty intense for me
since
> > > most of them go to competitions all the time. So I was sparring
and I
> > > twisted my ankle! I was in pain I continued sparring then I drove
> home
> > > the pain started becoming worse and worse so at around 4pm I had
> > someone
> > > take me to the ER since I was not able to walk anymore. Guess what?
> > I've
> > > broken the 5th metatarsal of my left foot! It's called Jones
Fracture
> > > and because there is not enough blood supply it takes long time to
> > heal.
> > > I had a cast for 6weeks and there was no sign of healing. Three
weeks
> > > ago I've had an operation where they put me a screw and they
believe
> > > that it will speed the healing. I still need to be on a cast for at
> > > least 3 more weeks!
> > > I hope that I will be able to do some karate even though it seems a
> > > little risky...maybe a new style non barefoot karate how does it
> sound??
> > >
> > > I wish you all the best for the upcoming event!
> > >
> > > Gloria
> > >
> > > > I already asked Mark. We are too late to get a table and must
> > bring our
> > > > own and set it up in an *unassigned area*, such as at the end of
> > the row
> > > > where the martial arts tables are.
> > > >
> > > > Also, as we have no assigned parking; we can get in early at the
> > service
> > > > entrance to drive in and drop off the table, but there is parking
> > at east
> > > > remote.
> > > >
> > > > alisa
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 19 Sep 2008, jon willson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > double check but opers usually has a table for us. in the last
> > few years
> > > > >they have set it up in the field at our assigned space.
> > > > >get something "attractive" to hang on the canopy to draw
attention.
> > > > >
> > > > > jon willson
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Thu, 9/18/08, Kyle Abbott <fiddlefella@
> > > > <mailto:fiddlefella %40hotmail. com>> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> From: Kyle Abbott <fiddlefella@
> > > > <mailto:fiddlefella %40hotmail. com>>
> > > > >> Subject: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall Festival, Sep 23
> > > > >> To: UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > <mailto:UCSCShotoka n%40yahoogroups. com>
> > > > >> Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 8:42 PM
> > > > >> Oh *phhh*. Silly me, I didn't see it. I gotta stop
> > > > >> looking into the sun.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -could someone take it up early for us...Abbot brothers?
> > > > >> Well, I don't know if the Abbot brothers can do it, but
> > > > >> I know that we
> > > > >> Abbott brothers can definitely take it up!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Kyle
> > > > >> --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > <mailto:UCSCShotoka n%40yahoogroups. com>, Josh Martin
> > > > >> <chefjrousseau@ >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Ah, Bronzed God!?
> > > > >>> ?
> > > > >>> I do have a table.? I have a bunch of tables.?
> > > > >> However, could
> > > > >> someone take it up early for us...Abbot brothers?? I have
> > > > >> to work on
> > > > >> Tuesday and will not be able to leave before 3ish.???
> > > > >>> ?
> > > > >>> Josh
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> ----- Original Message ----
> > > > >>> From: Luke Abbott <etc.yahoo@>
> > > > >>> To: UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > <mailto:UCSCShotoka n%40yahoogroups. com>
> > > > >>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 4:48:48 PM
> > > > >>> Subject: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall Festival, Sep 23
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Hey Bronzed God,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Forget about our table. We need something of a normal
> > > > >> height.
> > > > >>> Rereading Josh's message, it looks like he'll
> > > > >> be supplying one.
> > > > >>> Problem solved.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Luke
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com, "Kyle
> > > > >> Abbott" <fiddlefella@ ...>
> > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Alright. Great summary and info Josh.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Ok, I'll print out the fliers as they are.
> > > > >> We'll also bring the medals
> > > > >>>> from that tourney, though if anybody else has
> > > > >> medals they've won at
> > > > >>>> tourneys, perhaps they could add to the pot? . .
> > > > >> . Daniel? JK,JP or
> > > > >>>> JM? Alisa? I'll see what training pics I have
> > > > >> and make prints. Maybe
> > > > >>>> I'll use one from the Shinkyu beach training
> > > > >> (hey, UCSC people were
> > > > >>>> there, right?). Some of those looked pretty good.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> The fester is from 3:00-6:00. Perhaps we can get
> > > > >> there half-hour early
> > > > >>>> to set up?
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> That brings up the unanswered question about the
> > > > >> table. Since, from
> > > > >>>> what I've heard, we won't be given a
> > > > >> table, I've thrown out the offer
> > > > >>>> for our table. However, since it's seiza
> > > > >> height, if anybody has
> > > > >>>> something taller, that may be more . . .
> > > > >> beneficial.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> And yes, let's heed JonW's advice. For
> > > > >> those of us who aren't bronzed
> > > > >>>> gods, please bring sunscreen. I, on the
> > > > >> otherhand, will let the sun
> > > > >>>> scorch!
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> See you soon,
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Kyle
> > > > >>>> --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com, Josh
> > > > >> Martin <chefjrousseau@ >
> > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Hi Everyone,
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> I emailed Mark McCarroll about the room
> > > > >> situation.? Please read
> > > > >>>> below.??When we secure more than?8 student at
> > > > >> OPERs (which we
> > > > >>>> will)?and we find a student to?be?the UCSC
> > > > >> club president. ?I will
> > > > >>>> take on a volunteer statues to secure
> > > > >> workman's comp insurance and
> > > > >>>> learn?all the policies and procedures to run a
> > > > >> club...In short, we are
> > > > >>>> going to revive the club.?
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> As for the days and hours, I am leaning
> > > > >> towards a week night in a
> > > > >>>> raquet ball court or Saturday afternoons.? ? I
> > > > >> will have to confer
> > > > >>>> with my better half?about Saturday afternoons.?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> We will find?students to train?this
> > > > >> Tuesday.??Keeling Sensei will
> > > > >>>> come and teach as much as possible.??I will
> > > > >> find a student to take a
> > > > >>>> lead rule in the club.???
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Yes, Kyle please print a hundred fliers for
> > > > >> the club.? We will not
> > > > >>>> be able to know what the time for classes will be
> > > > >> until we secure
> > > > >>>> students.?
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Keeling Sensei is going to bring some shade,
> > > > >> students and
> > > > >>>> instruction. ? Kyle will bring the fliers,
> > > > >> pictures, and melted
> > > > >>>> medals.? Luke will come.? Alise will come.
> > > > >> Mellisa will come.? I will
> > > > >>>> bring a table, books, and mucho club spirit.?
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> See you all on Tuesday.? By the way, does
> > > > >> anyone know what time
> > > > >>>> OPERS is going to be and for how long?
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Osu,
> > > > >>>>> Josh
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>>>> From: Mark G McCarroll [mailto:markomc@ ]
> > > > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:54 PM
> > > > >>>>> To: Josh Martin
> > > > >>>>> Subject: Re: Shotokan Karate Club
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Hi Josh
> > > > >>>>> First you have to establish the club for
> > > > >> this coming year.
> > > > >>>>> Going to the Fall Festival will be a good
> > > > >> start.
> > > > >>>>> Once you have at least eight students who
> > > > >> are
> > > > >>>>> interested.. .
> > > > >>>>> which will probably be next week...
> > > > >>>>> Then we can meet and you would need to sign
> > > > >> up as a
> > > > >>>>> volunteer so that you're covered by
> > > > >> workman's comp and you
> > > > >>>>> can so that you can get into the East Field
> > > > >> House...
> > > > >>>>> Also this club needs a student to run it.
> > > > >>>>> And... you need to know all the policies and
> > > > >> procedures to
> > > > >>>>> run a club...
> > > > >>>>> Also liability comes into play.
> > > > >>>>> So that's the start.
> > > > >>>>> Mark
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:33:58 -0700
> > > > >>>>> ? "Josh Martin" <joshm@>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>> Hi Mr. McCarroll,
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> I hope you are doing well today.? I
> > > > >> was given your name
> > > > >>>>>> as a contact by
> > > > >>>>>> Skippy Given during the last Student
> > > > >> Association
> > > > >>>>>> Luncheon that we catered
> > > > >>>>>> here at the University Inn.? As you
> > > > >> may know, Jon Wilson
> > > > >>>>>> Sensei has
> > > > >>>>>> relocated to sunny San Diego and will
> > > > >> not be returning
> > > > >>>>>> to teach this
> > > > >>>>>> quarter.? However, there are a few
> > > > >> dedicated students
> > > > >>>>>> left (including
> > > > >>>>>> myself) who would like to keep the club
> > > > >> alive.? I am
> > > > >>>>>> ranked Shodan, first
> > > > >>>>>> degree black belt, with the Japanese
> > > > >> Karate Association
> > > > >>>>>> and would like to
> > > > >>>>>> take over instruction for the club.?
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> I know this is a last minute request,
> > > > >> but I had to
> > > > >>>>>> consider the commitment
> > > > >>>>>> issues with the students, wife and
> > > > >> work.? I am familiar
> > > > >>>>>> with UCSC policies
> > > > >>>>>> and procedures regarding club
> > > > >> participation. ? Based on
> > > > >>>>>> your reply, we are
> > > > >>>>>> hoping to attend the OPERS event,
> > > > >> knowing that we aren't
> > > > >>>>>> registered, I will
> > > > >>>>>> bring a table for us to set up to the
> > > > >> side of registered
> > > > >>>>>> club participants
> > > > >>>>>> (if this is O.K.,) and we hope that we
> > > > >> will get a strong
> > > > >>>>>> commitment for
> > > > >>>>>> participation from new students.? If
> > > > >> any there is any
> > > > >>>>>> room available we
> > > > >>>>>> would be grateful for one night a week,
> > > > >> preferably
> > > > >>>>>> Thursdays in the 6-8pm
> > > > >>>>>> range.? It doesn't have to be the
> > > > >> martial arts room, any
> > > > >>>>>> room with hard wood
> > > > >>>>>> floors and mirrors would suffice.?
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Thank you,
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Joshua R. Martin
> > > > >>>>>> Food and Beverage Manager
> > > > >>>>>> University Inn and Conference Center
> > > > >>>>>> 611 Ocean Street
> > > > >>>>>> Santa Cruz, CA. 95060
> > > > >>>>>> Phone (831) 466-1370
> > > > >>>>>> Fax (831) 420-1625
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> "What ever you do, or dream you
> > > > >> can do, begin it.
> > > > >>>>>> Boldness has genius,
> > > > >>>>>> power, and magic in it!"
> > > > >>>>>> -Goethe
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> > > > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----
> > > > >>>>> From: Jon Keeling (JKASV) <Jon@>
> > > > >>>>> To: UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:18:10
> > > > >> PM
> > > > >>>>> Subject: Re: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall
> > > > >> Festival, Sep 23
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Kyle Abbott wrote:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> which day
> > > > >>>>>> do you think would have better student
> > > > >> participation: having a
> > > > >> later
> > > > >>>>>> class on Saturday, an earlier weekday
> > > > >> class in a good room, or a
> > > > >>> later
> > > > >>>>>> weekday class in the racquetball court?
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> I think that that the opinion of whoever is
> > > > >> the most qualified to
> > > > >>>>> lead the weekday classes should be given the
> > > > >> most weight. At this
> > > > >>>>> point, that may be the Abbott brothers. But
> > > > >> there is a chance
> > > > >>>>> that someone else might come along that has
> > > > >> a shodan from elsewhere,
> > > > >>>>> or Josh may be available(?) ...
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> As for the weekends, I could only make it on
> > > > >> Saturday afternoons
> > > > >>>>> or Sundays. That would be once or twice each
> > > > >> month, depending
> > > > >>>>> on my schedule. It has been suggested that
> > > > >> these weekend classes
> > > > >>>>> might occur just on the days I (or another
> > > > >> black belt) can make it.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> It is nice having a larger room. But I was
> > > > >> actually brought up
> > > > >>>>> training in racquetball courts for the first
> > > > >> 3 years of my
> > > > >>>>> training (going back to 1982, before some of
> > > > >> you were born...).
> > > > >>>>> We often had more than a dozen people in
> > > > >> class and it didn't
> > > > >>>>> seem like it was such a tight squeeze. I
> > > > >> think that the day
> > > > >>>>> and time is most important.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com,
> > > > >> Alisa Neeman <aneeman@ >
> > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> I just talked with Mark. Here's
> > > > >> the deal:
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> His main concern is whether there
> > > > >> will be enough interest; much
> > > > >>>>>>> hinges on
> > > > >>>>>>> the number of names/emails you can
> > > > >> get at the fall festival (and
> > > > >>>>>>> ultimately how many UC students sign
> > > > >> the liability waiver as
> > > > >>>>>>> participants. As I recall the
> > > > >> minimum number is 8 liability
> > > > >>>> signatories
> > > > >>>>>>> to be recognized by OPERS as a
> > > > >> viable student club).
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> There are 42 members on this YahooGroup
> > > > >> alone. All we need
> > > > >>>>> is 1/5 of that #. I am sure that we can get
> > > > >> plenty of
> > > > >>>>> names from the fall festival. The question
> > > > >> is How many
> > > > >>>>> would actually sign the liability waiver? I
> > > > >> suggest
> > > > >>>>> having copies of that waiver at the
> > > > >> festival. It can't
> > > > >>>>> hurt...
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> BTW, I just taught my first 4-6 graders'
> > > > >> class today. I
> > > > >>>>> will be teaching 2-3 graders on Friday. I am
> > > > >> not allowing
> > > > >>>>> in those below 2nd grade, or else I would
> > > > >> have had twice
> > > > >>>>> as many people sign up. Sure, these little
> > > > >> kids are
> > > > >>>>> different than university students. But if I
> > > > >> can get
> > > > >>>>> 30 people out of 350 to attend my classes, I
> > > > >> would
> > > > >>>>> think that out of 15,000+ at UCSC, enough to
> > > > >> form the
> > > > >>>>> club should be within the realm of
> > > > >> possibilities. ..
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Assuming enough participants,
> > > > >> here's room possibilities:
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Weeknights 4:30-10pm are fully
> > > > >> booked except for racquetball
> > > > >> courts.
> > > > >>>>>>> Daytime is possible.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Saturdays after 2:30pm are possible.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Mark also wanted to know who is in
> > > > >> charge. That person is not
> > > > >>> me, but
> > > > >>>>>>> again, I am willing to do some
> > > > >> liason work. So Kyle, or Keeling
> > > > >>>>>>> sensei or
> > > > >>>>>>> someone needs to answer that.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Being that this is a university club, the
> > > > >> responsible person must
> > > > >>>>> be a student of faculty, at least
> > > > >> officially.. .Someone not
> > > > >>>>> directly connected to the university can
> > > > >> fill in forms, coordinate
> > > > >>>>> things with OPERS, teach... But there must
> > > > >> be club officers who
> > > > >>>>> "officially" make the decisions.
> > > > >> These officers can be decided
> > > > >>>>> on after we get a list together. Who
> > > > >> knows...Someone may actually
> > > > >>>>> WANT to be "in charge" of the
> > > > >> club...
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Please keep practicing your kata in
> > > > >> preparation for the
> > > > >>>>> demonstrations. I should be able to be there
> > > > >> just a little
> > > > >>>>> early to help set up. I may not be able to
> > > > >> stay to the
> > > > >>>>> end, because I need to deal with getting my
> > > > >> kids to my
> > > > >>>>> house for the night. But I'll be there
> > > > >> until as late as
> > > > >>>>> I can manage. I can bring the Abbotts'
> > > > >> old canopy thing
> > > > >>>>> to put over the table (Josh is bringing one,
> > > > >> I believe).
> > > > >>>>> I will try to bring a few other things as
> > > > >> well. It will
> > > > >>>>> be fun.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Gotta run. Please keep spreading the word
> > > > >> about the club
> > > > >>>>> to anyone you know at UCSC.
> > > > >>>>> Thanks,
> > > > >>>>> Jon Keeling
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >
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Hello Everyone!

I'm coming back, but I need a new gi because I ripped mine
spectacularly in jujitsu.  Any suggestions as to were I can purchase a
good one?

Hopefully I'll see you all soon,

-Jess

Oh, final thing. I'm just gonna make a few changes to the googlegroup
before sending out the invitations. A few things to take out. For
starters, the class schedule which currently it says, "Somebody,
please train with us!" and the most recent thread, "the UCSC Shotokan
Karate Club will survive and eventually thrive!" That can't be
encouraging to prospective members.

Plus, I'll add some training pictures to the front page. JonW, are you
still waiting for your computer to boot up? ;-)

--- In UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com, "Kyle Abbott" <fiddlefella@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Gloria,
>
> Good to hear from you.
>
> Oh no, that's terrible! I'm sorry to hear that. Did you ever get to go
> back to Athens?
>
> Well you know, I've always thought that Wheelchair Karate has been
> unfairly underrated. ;-)
>
> Thanks for the update, and I hope the screw does the trick!
>
> Take it easy but take it,
>
> Kyle
>
> --- In UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com, Gloria Chatzopoulou <dhatzop@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings from Riverside!
> >
> > My news since I left are:
> > I left Santa Cruz July 10, I drove to Riverside and decided to try
the
> > karate here before flying back home July 13. On Saturday July 12 they
> > had sparring at 9am. It's interesting to mention that the group (at
> > least that day) was mostly women! It was pretty intense for me since
> > most of them go to competitions all the time. So I was sparring and I
> > twisted my ankle! I was in pain I continued sparring then I drove
home
> > the pain started becoming worse and worse so at around 4pm I had
> someone
> > take me to the ER since I was not able to walk anymore. Guess what?
> I've
> > broken the 5th metatarsal of my left foot! It's called Jones Fracture
> > and because there is not enough blood supply it takes long time to
> heal.
> > I had a cast for 6weeks and there was no sign of healing. Three weeks
> > ago I've had an operation where they put me a screw and they believe
> > that it will speed the healing. I still need to be on a cast for at
> > least 3 more weeks!
> > I hope that I will be able to do some karate even though it seems a
> > little risky...maybe a new style non barefoot karate how does it
sound??
> >
> > I wish you all the best for the upcoming event!
> >
> > Gloria
> >
> > > I already asked Mark. We are too late to get a table and must
> bring our
> > > own and set it up in an *unassigned area*, such as at the end of
> the row
> > > where the martial arts tables are.
> > >
> > > Also, as we have no assigned parking; we can get in early at the
> service
> > > entrance to drive in and drop off the table, but there is parking
> at east
> > > remote.
> > >
> > > alisa
> > >
> > > On Fri, 19 Sep 2008, jon willson wrote:
> > >
> > > > double check but opers usually has a table for us. in the last
> few years
> > > >they have set it up in the field at our assigned space.
> > > >get something "attractive" to hang on the canopy to draw attention.
> > > >
> > > > jon willson
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Thu, 9/18/08, Kyle Abbott <fiddlefella@
> > > <mailto:fiddlefella%40hotmail.com>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> From: Kyle Abbott <fiddlefella@
> > > <mailto:fiddlefella%40hotmail.com>>
> > > >> Subject: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall Festival, Sep 23
> > > >> To: UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:UCSCShotokan%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >> Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 8:42 PM
> > > >> Oh *phhh*. Silly me, I didn't see it. I gotta stop
> > > >> looking into the sun.
> > > >>
> > > >> -could someone take it up early for us...Abbot brothers?
> > > >> Well, I don't know if the Abbot brothers can do it, but
> > > >> I know that we
> > > >> Abbott brothers can definitely take it up!
> > > >>
> > > >> Kyle
> > > >> --- In UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:UCSCShotokan%40yahoogroups.com>, Josh Martin
> > > >> <chefjrousseau@>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Ah, Bronzed God!?
> > > >>> ?
> > > >>> I do have a table.? I have a bunch of tables.?
> > > >> However, could
> > > >> someone take it up early for us...Abbot brothers?? I have
> > > >> to work on
> > > >> Tuesday and will not be able to leave before 3ish.???
> > > >>> ?
> > > >>> Josh
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ----- Original Message ----
> > > >>> From: Luke Abbott <etc.yahoo@>
> > > >>> To: UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:UCSCShotokan%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 4:48:48 PM
> > > >>> Subject: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall Festival, Sep 23
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hey Bronzed God,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Forget about our table. We need something of a normal
> > > >> height.
> > > >>> Rereading Josh's message, it looks like he'll
> > > >> be supplying one.
> > > >>> Problem solved.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Luke
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com, "Kyle
> > > >> Abbott" <fiddlefella@ ...>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Alright. Great summary and info Josh.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Ok, I'll print out the fliers as they are.
> > > >> We'll also bring the medals
> > > >>>> from that tourney, though if anybody else has
> > > >> medals they've won at
> > > >>>> tourneys, perhaps they could add to the pot? . .
> > > >> . Daniel? JK,JP or
> > > >>>> JM? Alisa? I'll see what training pics I have
> > > >> and make prints. Maybe
> > > >>>> I'll use one from the Shinkyu beach training
> > > >> (hey, UCSC people were
> > > >>>> there, right?). Some of those looked pretty good.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> The fester is from 3:00-6:00. Perhaps we can get
> > > >> there half-hour early
> > > >>>> to set up?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> That brings up the unanswered question about the
> > > >> table. Since, from
> > > >>>> what I've heard, we won't be given a
> > > >> table, I've thrown out the offer
> > > >>>> for our table. However, since it's seiza
> > > >> height, if anybody has
> > > >>>> something taller, that may be more . . .
> > > >> beneficial.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> And yes, let's heed JonW's advice. For
> > > >> those of us who aren't bronzed
> > > >>>> gods, please bring sunscreen. I, on the
> > > >> otherhand, will let the sun
> > > >>>> scorch!
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> See you soon,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Kyle
> > > >>>> --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com, Josh
> > > >> Martin <chefjrousseau@ >
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Hi Everyone,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I emailed Mark McCarroll about the room
> > > >> situation.? Please read
> > > >>>> below.??When we secure more than?8 student at
> > > >> OPERs (which we
> > > >>>> will)?and we find a student to?be?the UCSC
> > > >> club president. ?I will
> > > >>>> take on a volunteer statues to secure
> > > >> workman's comp insurance and
> > > >>>> learn?all the policies and procedures to run a
> > > >> club...In short, we are
> > > >>>> going to revive the club.?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> As for the days and hours, I am leaning
> > > >> towards a week night in a
> > > >>>> raquet ball court or Saturday afternoons.? ? I
> > > >> will have to confer
> > > >>>> with my better half?about Saturday afternoons.?
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> We will find?students to train?this
> > > >> Tuesday.??Keeling Sensei will
> > > >>>> come and teach as much as possible.??I will
> > > >> find a student to take a
> > > >>>> lead rule in the club.???
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Yes, Kyle please print a hundred fliers for
> > > >> the club.? We will not
> > > >>>> be able to know what the time for classes will be
> > > >> until we secure
> > > >>>> students.?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Keeling Sensei is going to bring some shade,
> > > >> students and
> > > >>>> instruction.? Kyle will bring the fliers,
> > > >> pictures, and melted
> > > >>>> medals.? Luke will come.? Alise will come.
> > > >> Mellisa will come.? I will
> > > >>>> bring a table, books, and mucho club spirit.?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> See you all on Tuesday.? By the way, does
> > > >> anyone know what time
> > > >>>> OPERS is going to be and for how long?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Osu,
> > > >>>>> Josh
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>>>> From: Mark G McCarroll [mailto:markomc@ ]
> > > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:54 PM
> > > >>>>> To: Josh Martin
> > > >>>>> Subject: Re: Shotokan Karate Club
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Hi Josh
> > > >>>>> First you have to establish the club for
> > > >> this coming year.
> > > >>>>> Going to the Fall Festival will be a good
> > > >> start.
> > > >>>>> Once you have at least eight students who
> > > >> are
> > > >>>>> interested.. .
> > > >>>>> which will probably be next week...
> > > >>>>> Then we can meet and you would need to sign
> > > >> up as a
> > > >>>>> volunteer so that you're covered by
> > > >> workman's comp and you
> > > >>>>> can so that you can get into the East Field
> > > >> House...
> > > >>>>> Also this club needs a student to run it.
> > > >>>>> And... you need to know all the policies and
> > > >> procedures to
> > > >>>>> run a club...
> > > >>>>> Also liability comes into play.
> > > >>>>> So that's the start.
> > > >>>>> Mark
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:33:58 -0700
> > > >>>>> ? "Josh Martin" <joshm@>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>>>> Hi Mr. McCarroll,
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I hope you are doing well today.? I
> > > >> was given your name
> > > >>>>>> as a contact by
> > > >>>>>> Skippy Given during the last Student
> > > >> Association
> > > >>>>>> Luncheon that we catered
> > > >>>>>> here at the University Inn.? As you
> > > >> may know, Jon Wilson
> > > >>>>>> Sensei has
> > > >>>>>> relocated to sunny San Diego and will
> > > >> not be returning
> > > >>>>>> to teach this
> > > >>>>>> quarter.? However, there are a few
> > > >> dedicated students
> > > >>>>>> left (including
> > > >>>>>> myself) who would like to keep the club
> > > >> alive.? I am
> > > >>>>>> ranked Shodan, first
> > > >>>>>> degree black belt, with the Japanese
> > > >> Karate Association
> > > >>>>>> and would like to
> > > >>>>>> take over instruction for the club.?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I know this is a last minute request,
> > > >> but I had to
> > > >>>>>> consider the commitment
> > > >>>>>> issues with the students, wife and
> > > >> work.? I am familiar
> > > >>>>>> with UCSC policies
> > > >>>>>> and procedures regarding club
> > > >> participation.? Based on
> > > >>>>>> your reply, we are
> > > >>>>>> hoping to attend the OPERS event,
> > > >> knowing that we aren't
> > > >>>>>> registered, I will
> > > >>>>>> bring a table for us to set up to the
> > > >> side of registered
> > > >>>>>> club participants
> > > >>>>>> (if this is O.K.,) and we hope that we
> > > >> will get a strong
> > > >>>>>> commitment for
> > > >>>>>> participation from new students.? If
> > > >> any there is any
> > > >>>>>> room available we
> > > >>>>>> would be grateful for one night a week,
> > > >> preferably
> > > >>>>>> Thursdays in the 6-8pm
> > > >>>>>> range.? It doesn't have to be the
> > > >> martial arts room, any
> > > >>>>>> room with hard wood
> > > >>>>>> floors and mirrors would suffice.?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Thank you,
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Joshua R. Martin
> > > >>>>>> Food and Beverage Manager
> > > >>>>>> University Inn and Conference Center
> > > >>>>>> 611 Ocean Street
> > > >>>>>> Santa Cruz, CA. 95060
> > > >>>>>> Phone (831) 466-1370
> > > >>>>>> Fax (831) 420-1625
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> "What ever you do, or dream you
> > > >> can do, begin it.
> > > >>>>>> Boldness has genius,
> > > >>>>>> power, and magic in it!"
> > > >>>>>> -Goethe
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> > > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----
> > > >>>>> From: Jon Keeling (JKASV) <Jon@>
> > > >>>>> To: UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com
> > > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:18:10
> > > >> PM
> > > >>>>> Subject: Re: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall
> > > >> Festival, Sep 23
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Kyle Abbott wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> which day
> > > >>>>>> do you think would have better student
> > > >> participation: having a
> > > >> later
> > > >>>>>> class on Saturday, an earlier weekday
> > > >> class in a good room, or a
> > > >>> later
> > > >>>>>> weekday class in the racquetball court?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I think that that the opinion of whoever is
> > > >> the most qualified to
> > > >>>>> lead the weekday classes should be given the
> > > >> most weight. At this
> > > >>>>> point, that may be the Abbott brothers. But
> > > >> there is a chance
> > > >>>>> that someone else might come along that has
> > > >> a shodan from elsewhere,
> > > >>>>> or Josh may be available(?) ...
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> As for the weekends, I could only make it on
> > > >> Saturday afternoons
> > > >>>>> or Sundays. That would be once or twice each
> > > >> month, depending
> > > >>>>> on my schedule. It has been suggested that
> > > >> these weekend classes
> > > >>>>> might occur just on the days I (or another
> > > >> black belt) can make it.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> It is nice having a larger room. But I was
> > > >> actually brought up
> > > >>>>> training in racquetball courts for the first
> > > >> 3 years of my
> > > >>>>> training (going back to 1982, before some of
> > > >> you were born...).
> > > >>>>> We often had more than a dozen people in
> > > >> class and it didn't
> > > >>>>> seem like it was such a tight squeeze. I
> > > >> think that the day
> > > >>>>> and time is most important.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com,
> > > >> Alisa Neeman <aneeman@ >
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> I just talked with Mark. Here's
> > > >> the deal:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> His main concern is whether there
> > > >> will be enough interest; much
> > > >>>>>>> hinges on
> > > >>>>>>> the number of names/emails you can
> > > >> get at the fall festival (and
> > > >>>>>>> ultimately how many UC students sign
> > > >> the liability waiver as
> > > >>>>>>> participants. As I recall the
> > > >> minimum number is 8 liability
> > > >>>> signatories
> > > >>>>>>> to be recognized by OPERS as a
> > > >> viable student club).
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> There are 42 members on this YahooGroup
> > > >> alone. All we need
> > > >>>>> is 1/5 of that #. I am sure that we can get
> > > >> plenty of
> > > >>>>> names from the fall festival. The question
> > > >> is How many
> > > >>>>> would actually sign the liability waiver? I
> > > >> suggest
> > > >>>>> having copies of that waiver at the
> > > >> festival. It can't
> > > >>>>> hurt...
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> BTW, I just taught my first 4-6 graders'
> > > >> class today. I
> > > >>>>> will be teaching 2-3 graders on Friday. I am
> > > >> not allowing
> > > >>>>> in those below 2nd grade, or else I would
> > > >> have had twice
> > > >>>>> as many people sign up. Sure, these little
> > > >> kids are
> > > >>>>> different than university students. But if I
> > > >> can get
> > > >>>>> 30 people out of 350 to attend my classes, I
> > > >> would
> > > >>>>> think that out of 15,000+ at UCSC, enough to
> > > >> form the
> > > >>>>> club should be within the realm of
> > > >> possibilities. ..
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Assuming enough participants,
> > > >> here's room possibilities:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Weeknights 4:30-10pm are fully
> > > >> booked except for racquetball
> > > >> courts.
> > > >>>>>>> Daytime is possible.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Saturdays after 2:30pm are possible.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Mark also wanted to know who is in
> > > >> charge. That person is not
> > > >>> me, but
> > > >>>>>>> again, I am willing to do some
> > > >> liason work. So Kyle, or Keeling
> > > >>>>>>> sensei or
> > > >>>>>>> someone needs to answer that.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Being that this is a university club, the
> > > >> responsible person must
> > > >>>>> be a student of faculty, at least
> > > >> officially.. .Someone not
> > > >>>>> directly connected to the university can
> > > >> fill in forms, coordinate
> > > >>>>> things with OPERS, teach... But there must
> > > >> be club officers who
> > > >>>>> "officially" make the decisions.
> > > >> These officers can be decided
> > > >>>>> on after we get a list together. Who
> > > >> knows...Someone may actually
> > > >>>>> WANT to be "in charge" of the
> > > >> club...
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Please keep practicing your kata in
> > > >> preparation for the
> > > >>>>> demonstrations. I should be able to be there
> > > >> just a little
> > > >>>>> early to help set up. I may not be able to
> > > >> stay to the
> > > >>>>> end, because I need to deal with getting my
> > > >> kids to my
> > > >>>>> house for the night. But I'll be there
> > > >> until as late as
> > > >>>>> I can manage. I can bring the Abbotts'
> > > >> old canopy thing
> > > >>>>> to put over the table (Josh is bringing one,
> > > >> I believe).
> > > >>>>> I will try to bring a few other things as
> > > >> well. It will
> > > >>>>> be fun.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Gotta run. Please keep spreading the word
> > > >> about the club
> > > >>>>> to anyone you know at UCSC.
> > > >>>>> Thanks,
> > > >>>>> Jon Keeling
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
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Well, I think that went pretty darn good today. As Josh said, some
people walked up to the table and signed up without even asking
anything. So that's a plus. Who knows if doing kata a distance away
from the table did anything, but it sure didn't hurt. Who knows, the
breakdancers next to us might've brought in a few customers! I think
we just may stay alfoat. So yeah, go us!

Finally, I have to say, despite all the "oh, you should put on
sunscreen! You're getting so red!" No sunburn I got! (that splash of
sunscreen I put on 20 minutes before we left doesn't count) So . . .
yeah. FYI.

K


--- In UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com, "Kyle Abbott" <fiddlefella@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Gloria,
>
> Good to hear from you.
>
> Oh no, that's terrible! I'm sorry to hear that. Did you ever get to go
> back to Athens?
>
> Well you know, I've always thought that Wheelchair Karate has been
> unfairly underrated. ;-)
>
> Thanks for the update, and I hope the screw does the trick!
>
> Take it easy but take it,
>
> Kyle
>
> --- In UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com, Gloria Chatzopoulou <dhatzop@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings from Riverside!
> >
> > My news since I left are:
> > I left Santa Cruz July 10, I drove to Riverside and decided to try
the
> > karate here before flying back home July 13. On Saturday July 12 they
> > had sparring at 9am. It's interesting to mention that the group (at
> > least that day) was mostly women! It was pretty intense for me since
> > most of them go to competitions all the time. So I was sparring and I
> > twisted my ankle! I was in pain I continued sparring then I drove
home
> > the pain started becoming worse and worse so at around 4pm I had
> someone
> > take me to the ER since I was not able to walk anymore. Guess what?
> I've
> > broken the 5th metatarsal of my left foot! It's called Jones Fracture
> > and because there is not enough blood supply it takes long time to
> heal.
> > I had a cast for 6weeks and there was no sign of healing. Three weeks
> > ago I've had an operation where they put me a screw and they believe
> > that it will speed the healing. I still need to be on a cast for at
> > least 3 more weeks!
> > I hope that I will be able to do some karate even though it seems a
> > little risky...maybe a new style non barefoot karate how does it
sound??
> >
> > I wish you all the best for the upcoming event!
> >
> > Gloria
> >
> > > I already asked Mark. We are too late to get a table and must
> bring our
> > > own and set it up in an *unassigned area*, such as at the end of
> the row
> > > where the martial arts tables are.
> > >
> > > Also, as we have no assigned parking; we can get in early at the
> service
> > > entrance to drive in and drop off the table, but there is parking
> at east
> > > remote.
> > >
> > > alisa
> > >
> > > On Fri, 19 Sep 2008, jon willson wrote:
> > >
> > > > double check but opers usually has a table for us. in the last
> few years
> > > >they have set it up in the field at our assigned space.
> > > >get something "attractive" to hang on the canopy to draw attention.
> > > >
> > > > jon willson
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Thu, 9/18/08, Kyle Abbott <fiddlefella@
> > > <mailto:fiddlefella%40hotmail.com>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> From: Kyle Abbott <fiddlefella@
> > > <mailto:fiddlefella%40hotmail.com>>
> > > >> Subject: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall Festival, Sep 23
> > > >> To: UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:UCSCShotokan%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >> Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 8:42 PM
> > > >> Oh *phhh*. Silly me, I didn't see it. I gotta stop
> > > >> looking into the sun.
> > > >>
> > > >> -could someone take it up early for us...Abbot brothers?
> > > >> Well, I don't know if the Abbot brothers can do it, but
> > > >> I know that we
> > > >> Abbott brothers can definitely take it up!
> > > >>
> > > >> Kyle
> > > >> --- In UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:UCSCShotokan%40yahoogroups.com>, Josh Martin
> > > >> <chefjrousseau@>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Ah, Bronzed God!?
> > > >>> ?
> > > >>> I do have a table.? I have a bunch of tables.?
> > > >> However, could
> > > >> someone take it up early for us...Abbot brothers?? I have
> > > >> to work on
> > > >> Tuesday and will not be able to leave before 3ish.???
> > > >>> ?
> > > >>> Josh
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ----- Original Message ----
> > > >>> From: Luke Abbott <etc.yahoo@>
> > > >>> To: UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:UCSCShotokan%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 4:48:48 PM
> > > >>> Subject: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall Festival, Sep 23
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hey Bronzed God,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Forget about our table. We need something of a normal
> > > >> height.
> > > >>> Rereading Josh's message, it looks like he'll
> > > >> be supplying one.
> > > >>> Problem solved.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Luke
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com, "Kyle
> > > >> Abbott" <fiddlefella@ ...>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Alright. Great summary and info Josh.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Ok, I'll print out the fliers as they are.
> > > >> We'll also bring the medals
> > > >>>> from that tourney, though if anybody else has
> > > >> medals they've won at
> > > >>>> tourneys, perhaps they could add to the pot? . .
> > > >> . Daniel? JK,JP or
> > > >>>> JM? Alisa? I'll see what training pics I have
> > > >> and make prints. Maybe
> > > >>>> I'll use one from the Shinkyu beach training
> > > >> (hey, UCSC people were
> > > >>>> there, right?). Some of those looked pretty good.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> The fester is from 3:00-6:00. Perhaps we can get
> > > >> there half-hour early
> > > >>>> to set up?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> That brings up the unanswered question about the
> > > >> table. Since, from
> > > >>>> what I've heard, we won't be given a
> > > >> table, I've thrown out the offer
> > > >>>> for our table. However, since it's seiza
> > > >> height, if anybody has
> > > >>>> something taller, that may be more . . .
> > > >> beneficial.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> And yes, let's heed JonW's advice. For
> > > >> those of us who aren't bronzed
> > > >>>> gods, please bring sunscreen. I, on the
> > > >> otherhand, will let the sun
> > > >>>> scorch!
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> See you soon,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Kyle
> > > >>>> --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com, Josh
> > > >> Martin <chefjrousseau@ >
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Hi Everyone,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I emailed Mark McCarroll about the room
> > > >> situation.? Please read
> > > >>>> below.??When we secure more than?8 student at
> > > >> OPERs (which we
> > > >>>> will)?and we find a student to?be?the UCSC
> > > >> club president. ?I will
> > > >>>> take on a volunteer statues to secure
> > > >> workman's comp insurance and
> > > >>>> learn?all the policies and procedures to run a
> > > >> club...In short, we are
> > > >>>> going to revive the club.?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> As for the days and hours, I am leaning
> > > >> towards a week night in a
> > > >>>> raquet ball court or Saturday afternoons.? ? I
> > > >> will have to confer
> > > >>>> with my better half?about Saturday afternoons.?
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> We will find?students to train?this
> > > >> Tuesday.??Keeling Sensei will
> > > >>>> come and teach as much as possible.??I will
> > > >> find a student to take a
> > > >>>> lead rule in the club.???
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Yes, Kyle please print a hundred fliers for
> > > >> the club.? We will not
> > > >>>> be able to know what the time for classes will be
> > > >> until we secure
> > > >>>> students.?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Keeling Sensei is going to bring some shade,
> > > >> students and
> > > >>>> instruction.? Kyle will bring the fliers,
> > > >> pictures, and melted
> > > >>>> medals.? Luke will come.? Alise will come.
> > > >> Mellisa will come.? I will
> > > >>>> bring a table, books, and mucho club spirit.?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> See you all on Tuesday.? By the way, does
> > > >> anyone know what time
> > > >>>> OPERS is going to be and for how long?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Osu,
> > > >>>>> Josh
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>>>> From: Mark G McCarroll [mailto:markomc@ ]
> > > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:54 PM
> > > >>>>> To: Josh Martin
> > > >>>>> Subject: Re: Shotokan Karate Club
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Hi Josh
> > > >>>>> First you have to establish the club for
> > > >> this coming year.
> > > >>>>> Going to the Fall Festival will be a good
> > > >> start.
> > > >>>>> Once you have at least eight students who
> > > >> are
> > > >>>>> interested.. .
> > > >>>>> which will probably be next week...
> > > >>>>> Then we can meet and you would need to sign
> > > >> up as a
> > > >>>>> volunteer so that you're covered by
> > > >> workman's comp and you
> > > >>>>> can so that you can get into the East Field
> > > >> House...
> > > >>>>> Also this club needs a student to run it.
> > > >>>>> And... you need to know all the policies and
> > > >> procedures to
> > > >>>>> run a club...
> > > >>>>> Also liability comes into play.
> > > >>>>> So that's the start.
> > > >>>>> Mark
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:33:58 -0700
> > > >>>>> ? "Josh Martin" <joshm@>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>>>> Hi Mr. McCarroll,
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I hope you are doing well today.? I
> > > >> was given your name
> > > >>>>>> as a contact by
> > > >>>>>> Skippy Given during the last Student
> > > >> Association
> > > >>>>>> Luncheon that we catered
> > > >>>>>> here at the University Inn.? As you
> > > >> may know, Jon Wilson
> > > >>>>>> Sensei has
> > > >>>>>> relocated to sunny San Diego and will
> > > >> not be returning
> > > >>>>>> to teach this
> > > >>>>>> quarter.? However, there are a few
> > > >> dedicated students
> > > >>>>>> left (including
> > > >>>>>> myself) who would like to keep the club
> > > >> alive.? I am
> > > >>>>>> ranked Shodan, first
> > > >>>>>> degree black belt, with the Japanese
> > > >> Karate Association
> > > >>>>>> and would like to
> > > >>>>>> take over instruction for the club.?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I know this is a last minute request,
> > > >> but I had to
> > > >>>>>> consider the commitment
> > > >>>>>> issues with the students, wife and
> > > >> work.? I am familiar
> > > >>>>>> with UCSC policies
> > > >>>>>> and procedures regarding club
> > > >> participation.? Based on
> > > >>>>>> your reply, we are
> > > >>>>>> hoping to attend the OPERS event,
> > > >> knowing that we aren't
> > > >>>>>> registered, I will
> > > >>>>>> bring a table for us to set up to the
> > > >> side of registered
> > > >>>>>> club participants
> > > >>>>>> (if this is O.K.,) and we hope that we
> > > >> will get a strong
> > > >>>>>> commitment for
> > > >>>>>> participation from new students.? If
> > > >> any there is any
> > > >>>>>> room available we
> > > >>>>>> would be grateful for one night a week,
> > > >> preferably
> > > >>>>>> Thursdays in the 6-8pm
> > > >>>>>> range.? It doesn't have to be the
> > > >> martial arts room, any
> > > >>>>>> room with hard wood
> > > >>>>>> floors and mirrors would suffice.?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Thank you,
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Joshua R. Martin
> > > >>>>>> Food and Beverage Manager
> > > >>>>>> University Inn and Conference Center
> > > >>>>>> 611 Ocean Street
> > > >>>>>> Santa Cruz, CA. 95060
> > > >>>>>> Phone (831) 466-1370
> > > >>>>>> Fax (831) 420-1625
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> "What ever you do, or dream you
> > > >> can do, begin it.
> > > >>>>>> Boldness has genius,
> > > >>>>>> power, and magic in it!"
> > > >>>>>> -Goethe
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> > > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----
> > > >>>>> From: Jon Keeling (JKASV) <Jon@>
> > > >>>>> To: UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com
> > > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:18:10
> > > >> PM
> > > >>>>> Subject: Re: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall
> > > >> Festival, Sep 23
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Kyle Abbott wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> which day
> > > >>>>>> do you think would have better student
> > > >> participation: having a
> > > >> later
> > > >>>>>> class on Saturday, an earlier weekday
> > > >> class in a good room, or a
> > > >>> later
> > > >>>>>> weekday class in the racquetball court?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I think that that the opinion of whoever is
> > > >> the most qualified to
> > > >>>>> lead the weekday classes should be given the
> > > >> most weight. At this
> > > >>>>> point, that may be the Abbott brothers. But
> > > >> there is a chance
> > > >>>>> that someone else might come along that has
> > > >> a shodan from elsewhere,
> > > >>>>> or Josh may be available(?) ...
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> As for the weekends, I could only make it on
> > > >> Saturday afternoons
> > > >>>>> or Sundays. That would be once or twice each
> > > >> month, depending
> > > >>>>> on my schedule. It has been suggested that
> > > >> these weekend classes
> > > >>>>> might occur just on the days I (or another
> > > >> black belt) can make it.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> It is nice having a larger room. But I was
> > > >> actually brought up
> > > >>>>> training in racquetball courts for the first
> > > >> 3 years of my
> > > >>>>> training (going back to 1982, before some of
> > > >> you were born...).
> > > >>>>> We often had more than a dozen people in
> > > >> class and it didn't
> > > >>>>> seem like it was such a tight squeeze. I
> > > >> think that the day
> > > >>>>> and time is most important.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com,
> > > >> Alisa Neeman <aneeman@ >
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> I just talked with Mark. Here's
> > > >> the deal:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> His main concern is whether there
> > > >> will be enough interest; much
> > > >>>>>>> hinges on
> > > >>>>>>> the number of names/emails you can
> > > >> get at the fall festival (and
> > > >>>>>>> ultimately how many UC students sign
> > > >> the liability waiver as
> > > >>>>>>> participants. As I recall the
> > > >> minimum number is 8 liability
> > > >>>> signatories
> > > >>>>>>> to be recognized by OPERS as a
> > > >> viable student club).
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> There are 42 members on this YahooGroup
> > > >> alone. All we need
> > > >>>>> is 1/5 of that #. I am sure that we can get
> > > >> plenty of
> > > >>>>> names from the fall festival. The question
> > > >> is How many
> > > >>>>> would actually sign the liability waiver? I
> > > >> suggest
> > > >>>>> having copies of that waiver at the
> > > >> festival. It can't
> > > >>>>> hurt...
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> BTW, I just taught my first 4-6 graders'
> > > >> class today. I
> > > >>>>> will be teaching 2-3 graders on Friday. I am
> > > >> not allowing
> > > >>>>> in those below 2nd grade, or else I would
> > > >> have had twice
> > > >>>>> as many people sign up. Sure, these little
> > > >> kids are
> > > >>>>> different than university students. But if I
> > > >> can get
> > > >>>>> 30 people out of 350 to attend my classes, I
> > > >> would
> > > >>>>> think that out of 15,000+ at UCSC, enough to
> > > >> form the
> > > >>>>> club should be within the realm of
> > > >> possibilities. ..
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Assuming enough participants,
> > > >> here's room possibilities:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Weeknights 4:30-10pm are fully
> > > >> booked except for racquetball
> > > >> courts.
> > > >>>>>>> Daytime is possible.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Saturdays after 2:30pm are possible.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Mark also wanted to know who is in
> > > >> charge. That person is not
> > > >>> me, but
> > > >>>>>>> again, I am willing to do some
> > > >> liason work. So Kyle, or Keeling
> > > >>>>>>> sensei or
> > > >>>>>>> someone needs to answer that.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Being that this is a university club, the
> > > >> responsible person must
> > > >>>>> be a student of faculty, at least
> > > >> officially.. .Someone not
> > > >>>>> directly connected to the university can
> > > >> fill in forms, coordinate
> > > >>>>> things with OPERS, teach... But there must
> > > >> be club officers who
> > > >>>>> "officially" make the decisions.
> > > >> These officers can be decided
> > > >>>>> on after we get a list together. Who
> > > >> knows...Someone may actually
> > > >>>>> WANT to be "in charge" of the
> > > >> club...
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Please keep practicing your kata in
> > > >> preparation for the
> > > >>>>> demonstrations. I should be able to be there
> > > >> just a little
> > > >>>>> early to help set up. I may not be able to
> > > >> stay to the
> > > >>>>> end, because I need to deal with getting my
> > > >> kids to my
> > > >>>>> house for the night. But I'll be there
> > > >> until as late as
> > > >>>>> I can manage. I can bring the Abbotts'
> > > >> old canopy thing
> > > >>>>> to put over the table (Josh is bringing one,
> > > >> I believe).
> > > >>>>> I will try to bring a few other things as
> > > >> well. It will
> > > >>>>> be fun.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Gotta run. Please keep spreading the word
> > > >> about the club
> > > >>>>> to anyone you know at UCSC.
> > > >>>>> Thanks,
> > > >>>>> Jon Keeling
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
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Hi Gloria,

Good to hear from you.

Oh no, that's terrible! I'm sorry to hear that. Did you ever get to go
back to Athens?

Well you know, I've always thought that Wheelchair Karate has been
unfairly underrated. ;-)

Thanks for the update, and I hope the screw does the trick!

Take it easy but take it,

Kyle

--- In UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com, Gloria Chatzopoulou <dhatzop@...>
wrote:
>
> Greetings from Riverside!
>
> My news since I left are:
> I left Santa Cruz July 10, I drove to Riverside and decided to try the
> karate here before flying back home July 13. On Saturday July 12 they
> had sparring at 9am. It's interesting to mention that the group (at
> least that day) was mostly women! It was pretty intense for me since
> most of them go to competitions all the time. So I was sparring and I
> twisted my ankle! I was in pain I continued sparring then I drove home
> the pain started becoming worse and worse so at around 4pm I had
someone
> take me to the ER since I was not able to walk anymore. Guess what?
I've
> broken the 5th metatarsal of my left foot! It's called Jones Fracture
> and because there is not enough blood supply it takes long time to
heal.
> I had a cast for 6weeks and there was no sign of healing. Three weeks
> ago I've had an operation where they put me a screw and they believe
> that it will speed the healing. I still need to be on a cast for at
> least 3 more weeks!
> I hope that I will be able to do some karate even though it seems a
> little risky...maybe a new style non barefoot karate how does it sound??
>
> I wish you all the best for the upcoming event!
>
> Gloria
>
> > I already asked Mark. We are too late to get a table and must
bring our
> > own and set it up in an *unassigned area*, such as at the end of
the row
> > where the martial arts tables are.
> >
> > Also, as we have no assigned parking; we can get in early at the
service
> > entrance to drive in and drop off the table, but there is parking
at east
> > remote.
> >
> > alisa
> >
> > On Fri, 19 Sep 2008, jon willson wrote:
> >
> > > double check but opers usually has a table for us. in the last
few years
> > >they have set it up in the field at our assigned space.
> > >get something "attractive" to hang on the canopy to draw attention.
> > >
> > > jon willson
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 9/18/08, Kyle Abbott <fiddlefella@...
> > <mailto:fiddlefella%40hotmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >> From: Kyle Abbott <fiddlefella@...
> > <mailto:fiddlefella%40hotmail.com>>
> > >> Subject: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall Festival, Sep 23
> > >> To: UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:UCSCShotokan%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 8:42 PM
> > >> Oh *phhh*. Silly me, I didn't see it. I gotta stop
> > >> looking into the sun.
> > >>
> > >> -could someone take it up early for us...Abbot brothers?
> > >> Well, I don't know if the Abbot brothers can do it, but
> > >> I know that we
> > >> Abbott brothers can definitely take it up!
> > >>
> > >> Kyle
> > >> --- In UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:UCSCShotokan%40yahoogroups.com>, Josh Martin
> > >> <chefjrousseau@>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Ah, Bronzed God!?
> > >>> ?
> > >>> I do have a table.? I have a bunch of tables.?
> > >> However, could
> > >> someone take it up early for us...Abbot brothers?? I have
> > >> to work on
> > >> Tuesday and will not be able to leave before 3ish.???
> > >>> ?
> > >>> Josh
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message ----
> > >>> From: Luke Abbott <etc.yahoo@>
> > >>> To: UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:UCSCShotokan%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 4:48:48 PM
> > >>> Subject: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall Festival, Sep 23
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Hey Bronzed God,
> > >>>
> > >>> Forget about our table. We need something of a normal
> > >> height.
> > >>> Rereading Josh's message, it looks like he'll
> > >> be supplying one.
> > >>> Problem solved.
> > >>>
> > >>> Luke
> > >>>
> > >>> --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com, "Kyle
> > >> Abbott" <fiddlefella@ ...>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Alright. Great summary and info Josh.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Ok, I'll print out the fliers as they are.
> > >> We'll also bring the medals
> > >>>> from that tourney, though if anybody else has
> > >> medals they've won at
> > >>>> tourneys, perhaps they could add to the pot? . .
> > >> . Daniel? JK,JP or
> > >>>> JM? Alisa? I'll see what training pics I have
> > >> and make prints. Maybe
> > >>>> I'll use one from the Shinkyu beach training
> > >> (hey, UCSC people were
> > >>>> there, right?). Some of those looked pretty good.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The fester is from 3:00-6:00. Perhaps we can get
> > >> there half-hour early
> > >>>> to set up?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> That brings up the unanswered question about the
> > >> table. Since, from
> > >>>> what I've heard, we won't be given a
> > >> table, I've thrown out the offer
> > >>>> for our table. However, since it's seiza
> > >> height, if anybody has
> > >>>> something taller, that may be more . . .
> > >> beneficial.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> And yes, let's heed JonW's advice. For
> > >> those of us who aren't bronzed
> > >>>> gods, please bring sunscreen. I, on the
> > >> otherhand, will let the sun
> > >>>> scorch!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> See you soon,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Kyle
> > >>>> --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com, Josh
> > >> Martin <chefjrousseau@ >
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Hi Everyone,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I emailed Mark McCarroll about the room
> > >> situation.? Please read
> > >>>> below.??When we secure more than?8 student at
> > >> OPERs (which we
> > >>>> will)?and we find a student to?be?the UCSC
> > >> club president. ?I will
> > >>>> take on a volunteer statues to secure
> > >> workman's comp insurance and
> > >>>> learn?all the policies and procedures to run a
> > >> club...In short, we are
> > >>>> going to revive the club.?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> As for the days and hours, I am leaning
> > >> towards a week night in a
> > >>>> raquet ball court or Saturday afternoons.? ? I
> > >> will have to confer
> > >>>> with my better half?about Saturday afternoons.?
> > >>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> We will find?students to train?this
> > >> Tuesday.??Keeling Sensei will
> > >>>> come and teach as much as possible.??I will
> > >> find a student to take a
> > >>>> lead rule in the club.???
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Yes, Kyle please print a hundred fliers for
> > >> the club.? We will not
> > >>>> be able to know what the time for classes will be
> > >> until we secure
> > >>>> students.?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Keeling Sensei is going to bring some shade,
> > >> students and
> > >>>> instruction.? Kyle will bring the fliers,
> > >> pictures, and melted
> > >>>> medals.? Luke will come.? Alise will come.
> > >> Mellisa will come.? I will
> > >>>> bring a table, books, and mucho club spirit.?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> See you all on Tuesday.? By the way, does
> > >> anyone know what time
> > >>>> OPERS is going to be and for how long?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Osu,
> > >>>>> Josh
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>> From: Mark G McCarroll [mailto:markomc@ ]
> > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:54 PM
> > >>>>> To: Josh Martin
> > >>>>> Subject: Re: Shotokan Karate Club
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Hi Josh
> > >>>>> First you have to establish the club for
> > >> this coming year.
> > >>>>> Going to the Fall Festival will be a good
> > >> start.
> > >>>>> Once you have at least eight students who
> > >> are
> > >>>>> interested.. .
> > >>>>> which will probably be next week...
> > >>>>> Then we can meet and you would need to sign
> > >> up as a
> > >>>>> volunteer so that you're covered by
> > >> workman's comp and you
> > >>>>> can so that you can get into the East Field
> > >> House...
> > >>>>> Also this club needs a student to run it.
> > >>>>> And... you need to know all the policies and
> > >> procedures to
> > >>>>> run a club...
> > >>>>> Also liability comes into play.
> > >>>>> So that's the start.
> > >>>>> Mark
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:33:58 -0700
> > >>>>> ? "Josh Martin" <joshm@>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>> Hi Mr. McCarroll,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I hope you are doing well today.? I
> > >> was given your name
> > >>>>>> as a contact by
> > >>>>>> Skippy Given during the last Student
> > >> Association
> > >>>>>> Luncheon that we catered
> > >>>>>> here at the University Inn.? As you
> > >> may know, Jon Wilson
> > >>>>>> Sensei has
> > >>>>>> relocated to sunny San Diego and will
> > >> not be returning
> > >>>>>> to teach this
> > >>>>>> quarter.? However, there are a few
> > >> dedicated students
> > >>>>>> left (including
> > >>>>>> myself) who would like to keep the club
> > >> alive.? I am
> > >>>>>> ranked Shodan, first
> > >>>>>> degree black belt, with the Japanese
> > >> Karate Association
> > >>>>>> and would like to
> > >>>>>> take over instruction for the club.?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I know this is a last minute request,
> > >> but I had to
> > >>>>>> consider the commitment
> > >>>>>> issues with the students, wife and
> > >> work.? I am familiar
> > >>>>>> with UCSC policies
> > >>>>>> and procedures regarding club
> > >> participation.? Based on
> > >>>>>> your reply, we are
> > >>>>>> hoping to attend the OPERS event,
> > >> knowing that we aren't
> > >>>>>> registered, I will
> > >>>>>> bring a table for us to set up to the
> > >> side of registered
> > >>>>>> club participants
> > >>>>>> (if this is O.K.,) and we hope that we
> > >> will get a strong
> > >>>>>> commitment for
> > >>>>>> participation from new students.? If
> > >> any there is any
> > >>>>>> room available we
> > >>>>>> would be grateful for one night a week,
> > >> preferably
> > >>>>>> Thursdays in the 6-8pm
> > >>>>>> range.? It doesn't have to be the
> > >> martial arts room, any
> > >>>>>> room with hard wood
> > >>>>>> floors and mirrors would suffice.?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thank you,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Joshua R. Martin
> > >>>>>> Food and Beverage Manager
> > >>>>>> University Inn and Conference Center
> > >>>>>> 611 Ocean Street
> > >>>>>> Santa Cruz, CA. 95060
> > >>>>>> Phone (831) 466-1370
> > >>>>>> Fax (831) 420-1625
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> "What ever you do, or dream you
> > >> can do, begin it.
> > >>>>>> Boldness has genius,
> > >>>>>> power, and magic in it!"
> > >>>>>> -Goethe
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
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> > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----
> > >>>>> From: Jon Keeling (JKASV) <Jon@>
> > >>>>> To: UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com
> > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:18:10
> > >> PM
> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall
> > >> Festival, Sep 23
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Kyle Abbott wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> which day
> > >>>>>> do you think would have better student
> > >> participation: having a
> > >> later
> > >>>>>> class on Saturday, an earlier weekday
> > >> class in a good room, or a
> > >>> later
> > >>>>>> weekday class in the racquetball court?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I think that that the opinion of whoever is
> > >> the most qualified to
> > >>>>> lead the weekday classes should be given the
> > >> most weight. At this
> > >>>>> point, that may be the Abbott brothers. But
> > >> there is a chance
> > >>>>> that someone else might come along that has
> > >> a shodan from elsewhere,
> > >>>>> or Josh may be available(?) ...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> As for the weekends, I could only make it on
> > >> Saturday afternoons
> > >>>>> or Sundays. That would be once or twice each
> > >> month, depending
> > >>>>> on my schedule. It has been suggested that
> > >> these weekend classes
> > >>>>> might occur just on the days I (or another
> > >> black belt) can make it.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> It is nice having a larger room. But I was
> > >> actually brought up
> > >>>>> training in racquetball courts for the first
> > >> 3 years of my
> > >>>>> training (going back to 1982, before some of
> > >> you were born...).
> > >>>>> We often had more than a dozen people in
> > >> class and it didn't
> > >>>>> seem like it was such a tight squeeze. I
> > >> think that the day
> > >>>>> and time is most important.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com,
> > >> Alisa Neeman <aneeman@ >
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I just talked with Mark. Here's
> > >> the deal:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> His main concern is whether there
> > >> will be enough interest; much
> > >>>>>>> hinges on
> > >>>>>>> the number of names/emails you can
> > >> get at the fall festival (and
> > >>>>>>> ultimately how many UC students sign
> > >> the liability waiver as
> > >>>>>>> participants. As I recall the
> > >> minimum number is 8 liability
> > >>>> signatories
> > >>>>>>> to be recognized by OPERS as a
> > >> viable student club).
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> There are 42 members on this YahooGroup
> > >> alone. All we need
> > >>>>> is 1/5 of that #. I am sure that we can get
> > >> plenty of
> > >>>>> names from the fall festival. The question
> > >> is How many
> > >>>>> would actually sign the liability waiver? I
> > >> suggest
> > >>>>> having copies of that waiver at the
> > >> festival. It can't
> > >>>>> hurt...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> BTW, I just taught my first 4-6 graders'
> > >> class today. I
> > >>>>> will be teaching 2-3 graders on Friday. I am
> > >> not allowing
> > >>>>> in those below 2nd grade, or else I would
> > >> have had twice
> > >>>>> as many people sign up. Sure, these little
> > >> kids are
> > >>>>> different than university students. But if I
> > >> can get
> > >>>>> 30 people out of 350 to attend my classes, I
> > >> would
> > >>>>> think that out of 15,000+ at UCSC, enough to
> > >> form the
> > >>>>> club should be within the realm of
> > >> possibilities. ..
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Assuming enough participants,
> > >> here's room possibilities:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Weeknights 4:30-10pm are fully
> > >> booked except for racquetball
> > >> courts.
> > >>>>>>> Daytime is possible.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Saturdays after 2:30pm are possible.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Mark also wanted to know who is in
> > >> charge. That person is not
> > >>> me, but
> > >>>>>>> again, I am willing to do some
> > >> liason work. So Kyle, or Keeling
> > >>>>>>> sensei or
> > >>>>>>> someone needs to answer that.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Being that this is a university club, the
> > >> responsible person must
> > >>>>> be a student of faculty, at least
> > >> officially.. .Someone not
> > >>>>> directly connected to the university can
> > >> fill in forms, coordinate
> > >>>>> things with OPERS, teach... But there must
> > >> be club officers who
> > >>>>> "officially" make the decisions.
> > >> These officers can be decided
> > >>>>> on after we get a list together. Who
> > >> knows...Someone may actually
> > >>>>> WANT to be "in charge" of the
> > >> club...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Please keep practicing your kata in
> > >> preparation for the
> > >>>>> demonstrations. I should be able to be there
> > >> just a little
> > >>>>> early to help set up. I may not be able to
> > >> stay to the
> > >>>>> end, because I need to deal with getting my
> > >> kids to my
> > >>>>> house for the night. But I'll be there
> > >> until as late as
> > >>>>> I can manage. I can bring the Abbotts'
> > >> old canopy thing
> > >>>>> to put over the table (Josh is bringing one,
> > >> I believe).
> > >>>>> I will try to bring a few other things as
> > >> well. It will
> > >>>>> be fun.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Gotta run. Please keep spreading the word
> > >> about the club
> > >>>>> to anyone you know at UCSC.
> > >>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>> Jon Keeling
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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Greetings from Riverside!

My news since I left are:
I left Santa Cruz July 10, I drove to Riverside and decided to try the
karate here before flying back home July 13. On Saturday July 12 they
had sparring at 9am. It's interesting to mention that the group (at
least that day) was mostly women! It was pretty intense for me since
most of them go to competitions all the time. So I was sparring and I
twisted my ankle! I was in pain I continued sparring then I drove home
the pain started becoming worse and worse so at around 4pm I had someone
take me to the ER since I was not able to walk anymore. Guess what? I've
broken the 5th metatarsal of my left foot! It's called Jones Fracture
and because there is not enough blood supply it takes long time to heal.
I had a cast for 6weeks and there was no sign of healing. Three weeks
ago I've had an operation where they put me a screw and they believe
that it will speed the healing. I still need to be on a cast for at
least 3 more weeks!
I hope that I will be able to do some karate even though it seems a
little risky...maybe a new style non barefoot karate how does it sound??

I wish you all the best for the upcoming event!

Gloria

> I already asked Mark. We are too late to get a table and must bring our
> own and set it up in an *unassigned area*, such as at the end of the row
> where the martial arts tables are.
>
> Also, as we have no assigned parking; we can get in early at the service
> entrance to drive in and drop off the table, but there is parking at east
> remote.
>
> alisa
>
> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008, jon willson wrote:
>
> > double check but opers usually has a table for us. in the last few years
> >they have set it up in the field at our assigned space.
> >get something "attractive" to hang on the canopy to draw attention.
> >
> > jon willson
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 9/18/08, Kyle Abbott <fiddlefella@...
> <mailto:fiddlefella%40hotmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Kyle Abbott <fiddlefella@...
> <mailto:fiddlefella%40hotmail.com>>
> >> Subject: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall Festival, Sep 23
> >> To: UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:UCSCShotokan%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 8:42 PM
> >> Oh *phhh*. Silly me, I didn't see it. I gotta stop
> >> looking into the sun.
> >>
> >> -could someone take it up early for us...Abbot brothers?
> >> Well, I don't know if the Abbot brothers can do it, but
> >> I know that we
> >> Abbott brothers can definitely take it up!
> >>
> >> Kyle
> >> --- In UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:UCSCShotokan%40yahoogroups.com>, Josh Martin
> >> <chefjrousseau@...>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Ah, Bronzed God!?
> >>> ?
> >>> I do have a table.? I have a bunch of tables.?
> >> However, could
> >> someone take it up early for us...Abbot brothers?? I have
> >> to work on
> >> Tuesday and will not be able to leave before 3ish.???
> >>> ?
> >>> Josh
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>> From: Luke Abbott <etc.yahoo@...>
> >>> To: UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:UCSCShotokan%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 4:48:48 PM
> >>> Subject: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall Festival, Sep 23
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hey Bronzed God,
> >>>
> >>> Forget about our table. We need something of a normal
> >> height.
> >>> Rereading Josh's message, it looks like he'll
> >> be supplying one.
> >>> Problem solved.
> >>>
> >>> Luke
> >>>
> >>> --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com, "Kyle
> >> Abbott" <fiddlefella@ ...>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Alright. Great summary and info Josh.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ok, I'll print out the fliers as they are.
> >> We'll also bring the medals
> >>>> from that tourney, though if anybody else has
> >> medals they've won at
> >>>> tourneys, perhaps they could add to the pot? . .
> >> . Daniel? JK,JP or
> >>>> JM? Alisa? I'll see what training pics I have
> >> and make prints. Maybe
> >>>> I'll use one from the Shinkyu beach training
> >> (hey, UCSC people were
> >>>> there, right?). Some of those looked pretty good.
> >>>>
> >>>> The fester is from 3:00-6:00. Perhaps we can get
> >> there half-hour early
> >>>> to set up?
> >>>>
> >>>> That brings up the unanswered question about the
> >> table. Since, from
> >>>> what I've heard, we won't be given a
> >> table, I've thrown out the offer
> >>>> for our table. However, since it's seiza
> >> height, if anybody has
> >>>> something taller, that may be more . . .
> >> beneficial.
> >>>>
> >>>> And yes, let's heed JonW's advice. For
> >> those of us who aren't bronzed
> >>>> gods, please bring sunscreen. I, on the
> >> otherhand, will let the sun
> >>>> scorch!
> >>>>
> >>>> See you soon,
> >>>>
> >>>> Kyle
> >>>> --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com, Josh
> >> Martin <chefjrousseau@ >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Everyone,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I emailed Mark McCarroll about the room
> >> situation.? Please read
> >>>> below.??When we secure more than?8 student at
> >> OPERs (which we
> >>>> will)?and we find a student to?be?the UCSC
> >> club president. ?I will
> >>>> take on a volunteer statues to secure
> >> workman's comp insurance and
> >>>> learn?all the policies and procedures to run a
> >> club...In short, we are
> >>>> going to revive the club.?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As for the days and hours, I am leaning
> >> towards a week night in a
> >>>> raquet ball court or Saturday afternoons.? ? I
> >> will have to confer
> >>>> with my better half?about Saturday afternoons.?
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We will find?students to train?this
> >> Tuesday.??Keeling Sensei will
> >>>> come and teach as much as possible.??I will
> >> find a student to take a
> >>>> lead rule in the club.???
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, Kyle please print a hundred fliers for
> >> the club.? We will not
> >>>> be able to know what the time for classes will be
> >> until we secure
> >>>> students.?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Keeling Sensei is going to bring some shade,
> >> students and
> >>>> instruction.? Kyle will bring the fliers,
> >> pictures, and melted
> >>>> medals.? Luke will come.? Alise will come.
> >> Mellisa will come.? I will
> >>>> bring a table, books, and mucho club spirit.?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> See you all on Tuesday.? By the way, does
> >> anyone know what time
> >>>> OPERS is going to be and for how long?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Osu,
> >>>>> Josh
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Mark G McCarroll [mailto:markomc@ ]
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:54 PM
> >>>>> To: Josh Martin
> >>>>> Subject: Re: Shotokan Karate Club
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Josh
> >>>>> First you have to establish the club for
> >> this coming year.
> >>>>> Going to the Fall Festival will be a good
> >> start.
> >>>>> Once you have at least eight students who
> >> are
> >>>>> interested.. .
> >>>>> which will probably be next week...
> >>>>> Then we can meet and you would need to sign
> >> up as a
> >>>>> volunteer so that you're covered by
> >> workman's comp and you
> >>>>> can so that you can get into the East Field
> >> House...
> >>>>> Also this club needs a student to run it.
> >>>>> And... you need to know all the policies and
> >> procedures to
> >>>>> run a club...
> >>>>> Also liability comes into play.
> >>>>> So that's the start.
> >>>>> Mark
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:33:58 -0700
> >>>>> ? "Josh Martin" <joshm@>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi Mr. McCarroll,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I hope you are doing well today.? I
> >> was given your name
> >>>>>> as a contact by
> >>>>>> Skippy Given during the last Student
> >> Association
> >>>>>> Luncheon that we catered
> >>>>>> here at the University Inn.? As you
> >> may know, Jon Wilson
> >>>>>> Sensei has
> >>>>>> relocated to sunny San Diego and will
> >> not be returning
> >>>>>> to teach this
> >>>>>> quarter.? However, there are a few
> >> dedicated students
> >>>>>> left (including
> >>>>>> myself) who would like to keep the club
> >> alive.? I am
> >>>>>> ranked Shodan, first
> >>>>>> degree black belt, with the Japanese
> >> Karate Association
> >>>>>> and would like to
> >>>>>> take over instruction for the club.?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I know this is a last minute request,
> >> but I had to
> >>>>>> consider the commitment
> >>>>>> issues with the students, wife and
> >> work.? I am familiar
> >>>>>> with UCSC policies
> >>>>>> and procedures regarding club
> >> participation.? Based on
> >>>>>> your reply, we are
> >>>>>> hoping to attend the OPERS event,
> >> knowing that we aren't
> >>>>>> registered, I will
> >>>>>> bring a table for us to set up to the
> >> side of registered
> >>>>>> club participants
> >>>>>> (if this is O.K.,) and we hope that we
> >> will get a strong
> >>>>>> commitment for
> >>>>>> participation from new students.? If
> >> any there is any
> >>>>>> room available we
> >>>>>> would be grateful for one night a week,
> >> preferably
> >>>>>> Thursdays in the 6-8pm
> >>>>>> range.? It doesn't have to be the
> >> martial arts room, any
> >>>>>> room with hard wood
> >>>>>> floors and mirrors would suffice.?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thank you,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Joshua R. Martin
> >>>>>> Food and Beverage Manager
> >>>>>> University Inn and Conference Center
> >>>>>> 611 Ocean Street
> >>>>>> Santa Cruz, CA. 95060
> >>>>>> Phone (831) 466-1370
> >>>>>> Fax (831) 420-1625
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "What ever you do, or dream you
> >> can do, begin it.
> >>>>>> Boldness has genius,
> >>>>>> power, and magic in it!"
> >>>>>> -Goethe
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>>>> From: Jon Keeling (JKASV) <Jon@>
> >>>>> To: UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:18:10
> >> PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall
> >> Festival, Sep 23
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Kyle Abbott wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> which day
> >>>>>> do you think would have better student
> >> participation: having a
> >> later
> >>>>>> class on Saturday, an earlier weekday
> >> class in a good room, or a
> >>> later
> >>>>>> weekday class in the racquetball court?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think that that the opinion of whoever is
> >> the most qualified to
> >>>>> lead the weekday classes should be given the
> >> most weight. At this
> >>>>> point, that may be the Abbott brothers. But
> >> there is a chance
> >>>>> that someone else might come along that has
> >> a shodan from elsewhere,
> >>>>> or Josh may be available(?) ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As for the weekends, I could only make it on
> >> Saturday afternoons
> >>>>> or Sundays. That would be once or twice each
> >> month, depending
> >>>>> on my schedule. It has been suggested that
> >> these weekend classes
> >>>>> might occur just on the days I (or another
> >> black belt) can make it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is nice having a larger room. But I was
> >> actually brought up
> >>>>> training in racquetball courts for the first
> >> 3 years of my
> >>>>> training (going back to 1982, before some of
> >> you were born...).
> >>>>> We often had more than a dozen people in
> >> class and it didn't
> >>>>> seem like it was such a tight squeeze. I
> >> think that the day
> >>>>> and time is most important.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com,
> >> Alisa Neeman <aneeman@ >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I just talked with Mark. Here's
> >> the deal:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> His main concern is whether there
> >> will be enough interest; much
> >>>>>>> hinges on
> >>>>>>> the number of names/emails you can
> >> get at the fall festival (and
> >>>>>>> ultimately how many UC students sign
> >> the liability waiver as
> >>>>>>> participants. As I recall the
> >> minimum number is 8 liability
> >>>> signatories
> >>>>>>> to be recognized by OPERS as a
> >> viable student club).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There are 42 members on this YahooGroup
> >> alone. All we need
> >>>>> is 1/5 of that #. I am sure that we can get
> >> plenty of
> >>>>> names from the fall festival. The question
> >> is How many
> >>>>> would actually sign the liability waiver? I
> >> suggest
> >>>>> having copies of that waiver at the
> >> festival. It can't
> >>>>> hurt...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> BTW, I just taught my first 4-6 graders'
> >> class today. I
> >>>>> will be teaching 2-3 graders on Friday. I am
> >> not allowing
> >>>>> in those below 2nd grade, or else I would
> >> have had twice
> >>>>> as many people sign up. Sure, these little
> >> kids are
> >>>>> different than university students. But if I
> >> can get
> >>>>> 30 people out of 350 to attend my classes, I
> >> would
> >>>>> think that out of 15,000+ at UCSC, enough to
> >> form the
> >>>>> club should be within the realm of
> >> possibilities. ..
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Assuming enough participants,
> >> here's room possibilities:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Weeknights 4:30-10pm are fully
> >> booked except for racquetball
> >> courts.
> >>>>>>> Daytime is possible.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Saturdays after 2:30pm are possible.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Mark also wanted to know who is in
> >> charge. That person is not
> >>> me, but
> >>>>>>> again, I am willing to do some
> >> liason work. So Kyle, or Keeling
> >>>>>>> sensei or
> >>>>>>> someone needs to answer that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Being that this is a university club, the
> >> responsible person must
> >>>>> be a student of faculty, at least
> >> officially.. .Someone not
> >>>>> directly connected to the university can
> >> fill in forms, coordinate
> >>>>> things with OPERS, teach... But there must
> >> be club officers who
> >>>>> "officially" make the decisions.
> >> These officers can be decided
> >>>>> on after we get a list together. Who
> >> knows...Someone may actually
> >>>>> WANT to be "in charge" of the
> >> club...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please keep practicing your kata in
> >> preparation for the
> >>>>> demonstrations. I should be able to be there
> >> just a little
> >>>>> early to help set up. I may not be able to
> >> stay to the
> >>>>> end, because I need to deal with getting my
> >> kids to my
> >>>>> house for the night. But I'll be there
> >> until as late as
> >>>>> I can manage. I can bring the Abbotts'
> >> old canopy thing
> >>>>> to put over the table (Josh is bringing one,
> >> I believe).
> >>>>> I will try to bring a few other things as
> >> well. It will
> >>>>> be fun.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gotta run. Please keep spreading the word
> >> about the club
> >>>>> to anyone you know at UCSC.
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Jon Keeling
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
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>

I already asked Mark. We are too late to get a table and must bring our
own and set it up in an *unassigned area*, such as at the end of the row
where the martial arts tables are.

Also, as we have no assigned parking; we can get in early at the service
entrance to drive in and drop off the table, but there is parking at east
remote.

alisa

   On Fri, 19 Sep 2008, jon willson wrote:

> double check but opers usually has a table for us.  in the last few years
>they have set it up in the field at our assigned space.
>get something "attractive" to hang on the canopy to draw attention.
>
> jon willson
>
>
> --- On Thu, 9/18/08, Kyle Abbott <fiddlefella@...> wrote:
>
>> From: Kyle Abbott <fiddlefella@...>
>> Subject: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall Festival, Sep 23
>> To: UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 8:42 PM
>> Oh *phhh*. Silly me, I didn't see it. I gotta stop
>> looking into the sun.
>>
>> -could someone take it up early for us...Abbot brothers?
>> Well, I don't know if the Abbot brothers can do it, but
>> I know that we
>> Abbott brothers can definitely take it up!
>>
>> Kyle
>> --- In UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com, Josh Martin
>> <chefjrousseau@...>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ah, Bronzed God! 
>>>  
>>> I do have a table.  I have a bunch of tables. 
>> However, could
>> someone take it up early for us...Abbot brothers?  I have
>> to work on
>> Tuesday and will not be able to leave before 3ish.   
>>>  
>>> Josh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Luke Abbott <etc.yahoo@...>
>>> To: UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 4:48:48 PM
>>> Subject: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall Festival, Sep 23
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey Bronzed God,
>>>
>>> Forget about our table. We need something of a normal
>> height.
>>> Rereading Josh's message, it looks like he'll
>> be supplying one.
>>> Problem solved.
>>>
>>> Luke
>>>
>>> --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com, "Kyle
>> Abbott" <fiddlefella@ ...>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Alright. Great summary and info Josh.
>>>>
>>>> Ok, I'll print out the fliers as they are.
>> We'll also bring the medals
>>>> from that tourney, though if anybody else has
>> medals they've won at
>>>> tourneys, perhaps they could add to the pot? . .
>> . Daniel? JK,JP or
>>>> JM? Alisa? I'll see what training pics I have
>> and make prints. Maybe
>>>> I'll use one from the Shinkyu beach training
>> (hey, UCSC people were
>>>> there, right?). Some of those looked pretty good.
>>>>
>>>> The fester is from 3:00-6:00. Perhaps we can get
>> there half-hour early
>>>> to set up?
>>>>
>>>> That brings up the unanswered question about the
>> table. Since, from
>>>> what I've heard, we won't be given a
>> table, I've thrown out the offer
>>>> for our table. However, since it's seiza
>> height, if anybody has
>>>> something taller, that may be more . . .
>> beneficial.
>>>>
>>>> And yes, let's heed JonW's advice. For
>> those of us who aren't bronzed
>>>> gods, please bring sunscreen. I, on the
>> otherhand, will let the sun
>>>> scorch!
>>>>
>>>> See you soon,
>>>>
>>>> Kyle
>>>> --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com, Josh
>> Martin <chefjrousseau@ >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I emailed Mark McCarroll about the room
>> situation.  Please read
>>>> below.  When we secure more than 8 student at
>> OPERs (which we
>>>> will) and we find a student to be the UCSC
>> club president.  I will
>>>> take on a volunteer statues to secure
>> workman's comp insurance and
>>>> learn all the policies and procedures to run a
>> club...In short, we are
>>>> going to revive the club. 
>>>>>
>>>>> As for the days and hours, I am leaning
>> towards a week night in a
>>>> raquet ball court or Saturday afternoons.    I
>> will have to confer
>>>> with my better half about Saturday afternoons. 
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We will find students to train this
>> Tuesday.  Keeling Sensei will
>>>> come and teach as much as possible.  I will
>> find a student to take a
>>>> lead rule in the club.   
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, Kyle please print a hundred fliers for
>> the club.  We will not
>>>> be able to know what the time for classes will be
>> until we secure
>>>> students. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Keeling Sensei is going to bring some shade,
>> students and
>>>> instruction.  Kyle will bring the fliers,
>> pictures, and melted
>>>> medals.  Luke will come.  Alise will come.
>> Mellisa will come.  I will
>>>> bring a table, books, and mucho club spirit. 
>>>>>
>>>>> See you all on Tuesday.  By the way, does
>> anyone know what time
>>>> OPERS is going to be and for how long?
>>>>>
>>>>> Osu,
>>>>> Josh
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Mark G McCarroll [mailto:markomc@ ]
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:54 PM
>>>>> To: Josh Martin
>>>>> Subject: Re: Shotokan Karate Club
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Josh
>>>>> First you have to establish the club for
>> this coming year.
>>>>> Going to the Fall Festival will be a good
>> start.
>>>>> Once you have at least eight students who
>> are
>>>>> interested.. .
>>>>> which will probably be next week...
>>>>> Then we can meet and you would need to sign
>> up as a
>>>>> volunteer so that you're covered by
>> workman's comp and you
>>>>> can so that you can get into the East Field
>> House...
>>>>> Also this club needs a student to run it.
>>>>> And... you need to know all the policies and
>> procedures to
>>>>> run a club...
>>>>> Also liability comes into play.
>>>>> So that's the start.
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:33:58 -0700
>>>>>   "Josh Martin" <joshm@>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Mr. McCarroll,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope you are doing well today.  I
>> was given your name
>>>>>> as a contact by
>>>>>> Skippy Given during the last Student
>> Association
>>>>>> Luncheon that we catered
>>>>>> here at the University Inn.  As you
>> may know, Jon Wilson
>>>>>> Sensei has
>>>>>> relocated to sunny San Diego and will
>> not be returning
>>>>>> to teach this
>>>>>> quarter.  However, there are a few
>> dedicated students
>>>>>> left (including
>>>>>> myself) who would like to keep the club
>> alive.  I am
>>>>>> ranked Shodan, first
>>>>>> degree black belt, with the Japanese
>> Karate Association
>>>>>> and would like to
>>>>>> take over instruction for the club. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know this is a last minute request,
>> but I had to
>>>>>> consider the commitment
>>>>>> issues with the students, wife and
>> work.  I am familiar
>>>>>> with UCSC policies
>>>>>> and procedures regarding club
>> participation.  Based on
>>>>>> your reply, we are
>>>>>> hoping to attend the OPERS event,
>> knowing that we aren't
>>>>>> registered, I will
>>>>>> bring a table for us to set up to the
>> side of registered
>>>>>> club participants
>>>>>> (if this is O.K.,) and we hope that we
>> will get a strong
>>>>>> commitment for
>>>>>> participation from new students.  If
>> any there is any
>>>>>> room available we
>>>>>> would be grateful for one night a week,
>> preferably
>>>>>> Thursdays in the 6-8pm
>>>>>> range.  It doesn't have to be the
>> martial arts room, any
>>>>>> room with hard wood
>>>>>> floors and mirrors would suffice. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joshua R. Martin
>>>>>> Food and Beverage Manager
>>>>>> University Inn and Conference Center
>>>>>> 611 Ocean Street
>>>>>> Santa Cruz, CA. 95060
>>>>>> Phone (831) 466-1370
>>>>>> Fax (831) 420-1625
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "What ever you do, or dream you
>> can do, begin it.
>>>>>> Boldness has genius,
>>>>>> power, and magic in it!"
>>>>>> -Goethe
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>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>>> From: Jon Keeling (JKASV) <Jon@>
>>>>> To: UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:18:10
>> PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall
>> Festival, Sep 23
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kyle Abbott wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> which day
>>>>>> do you think would have better student
>> participation: having a
>> later
>>>>>> class on Saturday, an earlier weekday
>> class in a good room, or a
>>> later
>>>>>> weekday class in the racquetball court?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that that the opinion of whoever is
>> the most qualified to
>>>>> lead the weekday classes should be given the
>> most weight. At this
>>>>> point, that may be the Abbott brothers. But
>> there is a chance
>>>>> that someone else might come along that has
>> a shodan from elsewhere,
>>>>> or Josh may be available(?) ...
>>>>>
>>>>> As for the weekends, I could only make it on
>> Saturday afternoons
>>>>> or Sundays. That would be once or twice each
>> month, depending
>>>>> on my schedule. It has been suggested that
>> these weekend classes
>>>>> might occur just on the days I (or another
>> black belt) can make it.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is nice having a larger room. But I was
>> actually brought up
>>>>> training in racquetball courts for the first
>> 3 years of my
>>>>> training (going back to 1982, before some of
>> you were born...).
>>>>> We often had more than a dozen people in
>> class and it didn't
>>>>> seem like it was such a tight squeeze. I
>> think that the day
>>>>> and time is most important.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com,
>> Alisa Neeman <aneeman@ >
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just talked with Mark. Here's
>> the deal:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> His main concern is whether there
>> will be enough interest; much
>>>>>>> hinges on
>>>>>>> the number of names/emails you can
>> get at the fall festival (and
>>>>>>> ultimately how many UC students sign
>> the liability waiver as
>>>>>>> participants. As I recall the
>> minimum number is 8 liability
>>>> signatories
>>>>>>> to be recognized by OPERS as a
>> viable student club).
>>>>>
>>>>> There are 42 members on this YahooGroup
>> alone. All we need
>>>>> is 1/5 of that #. I am sure that we can get
>> plenty of
>>>>> names from the fall festival. The question
>> is How many
>>>>> would actually sign the liability waiver? I
>> suggest
>>>>> having copies of that waiver at the
>> festival. It can't
>>>>> hurt...
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, I just taught my first 4-6 graders'
>> class today. I
>>>>> will be teaching 2-3 graders on Friday. I am
>> not allowing
>>>>> in those below 2nd grade, or else I would
>> have had twice
>>>>> as many people sign up. Sure, these little
>> kids are
>>>>> different than university students. But if I
>> can get
>>>>> 30 people out of 350 to attend my classes, I
>> would
>>>>> think that out of 15,000+ at UCSC, enough to
>> form the
>>>>> club should be within the realm of
>> possibilities. ..
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Assuming enough participants,
>> here's room possibilities:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Weeknights 4:30-10pm are fully
>> booked except for racquetball
>> courts.
>>>>>>> Daytime is possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saturdays after 2:30pm are possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark also wanted to know who is in
>> charge. That person is not
>>> me, but
>>>>>>> again, I am willing to do some
>> liason work. So Kyle, or Keeling
>>>>>>> sensei or
>>>>>>> someone needs to answer that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Being that this is a university club, the
>> responsible person must
>>>>> be a student of faculty, at least
>> officially.. .Someone not
>>>>> directly connected to the university can
>> fill in forms, coordinate
>>>>> things with OPERS, teach... But there must
>> be club officers who
>>>>> "officially" make the decisions.
>> These officers can be decided
>>>>> on after we get a list together. Who
>> knows...Someone may actually
>>>>> WANT to be "in charge" of the
>> club...
>>>>>
>>>>> Please keep practicing your kata in
>> preparation for the
>>>>> demonstrations. I should be able to be there
>> just a little
>>>>> early to help set up. I may not be able to
>> stay to the
>>>>> end, because I need to deal with getting my
>> kids to my
>>>>> house for the night. But I'll be there
>> until as late as
>>>>> I can manage. I can bring the Abbotts'
>> old canopy thing
>>>>> to put over the table (Josh is bringing one,
>> I believe).
>>>>> I will try to bring a few other things as
>> well. It will
>>>>> be fun.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gotta run. Please keep spreading the word
>> about the club
>>>>> to anyone you know at UCSC.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jon Keeling
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

kyle- we just moved and just got phone service here.  i will check my computater
and see if i have those pics.  aloha.  miss punching you guys.  jon

jon willson


--- On Fri, 9/19/08, Kyle Abbott <fiddlefella@...> wrote:

> From: Kyle Abbott <fiddlefella@...>
> Subject: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall Festival, Sep 23
> To: UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 7:57 AM
> Final question about the flyers before I print 'em out.
> At the bottom
> of the flyer, it says "For more information, call
> 831-224-3199". I
> assume that's Jeremy's number. Do you want that on
> there? I could
> change it to direct them to the googlegroup.
>
> -But, today is a different time and I realize that not
> everyone is as
> much of a fanatic as me...
> Well, yes, that's true. However, this is still just the
> beginning.
> When we get a solid core of students, we'll be able to
> safely set up
> another day or two to increase our karate intake. If we all
> remember,
> in the beginning, we're just gonna do one class to
> build up a solid
> base of returning (hopefully) students. Then, when
> there's a
> personal/social motivation, we can have more classes and
> those sucked
> in to Shotokan won't be deterred by which day is
> better.
>
> -Imagine if we could get just TWO % of the UCSC students.
> Imagine if we could get just TWO UCSC students! ;-)
>
> Oh yes, there's definitely potential.
>
> -Aim high. Expect low.
> Hell, I do that every time I spar! I aim to execute a jodan
> zuki, but
> I end up running out of energy and it ends up being a gedan
> zuki. ;-)
> (Yes, I need to train more often)
>
>
>
>
> --- In UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Keeling
> (JKASV)" <Jon@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Kyle Abbott wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok, keeping your answer in mind, it still begs
> the question, in your
> > > opinion, you, who have lead classes for years at
> UCSC, Later sat,
> > > later-week early-week. Which do you think will
> have better turnout and
> > > attendance?
> > >
> > > -I could only make it on Saturday afternoons or
> Sundays
> > > Since, in the beginning, we're just gonna
> have one class per week, it
> > > would seem that Sat afternoon would be the best
> day. However, it *is*
> > > Saturday afternoon. Do you think students be
> sober that late in the
> > > weekend?
> >
> > Josh & I spoke about this on the phone last week
> and we basically
> > agreed that the best strategy might be a weekday
> evening class
> > each week and additionally whenever a senior
> instructor
> > (eg Peck Sensei or me) can make it on a weekend, those
> > classes can be organized as extras, most likely on a
> > Saturday afternoon or Sunday morning.  So perhaps it
> would
> > turn out to be approximately 6 classes/month.  Jeremy
> and
> > I used to train 15+ hours/week in Tokyo in the
> mid-1980's.
> > But, today is a different time and I realize that not
> > everyone is as much of a fanatic as me...
> >
> > Update on my kids' classes. I taught nine 4th-6th
> graders
> > yesterday. I have 24 2nd-3rd graders signed up for
> > tomorrow.  That is almost 20% of the student
> population
> > at this afterschool facility that are eligible
> (I'm not
> > accepting younger than 2nd grade, where apparently the
> > demand may have actually been even greater!).  Imagine
> if
> > we could get just TWO % of the UCSC students. 30
> students
> > would be about 0.2%.  There is definitely some
> potential.
> >
> > Aim high. Expect low.  That's a lesson for life
> for you
> > youngsters reading this.
> >
> > Just in case, my cell is 650-580-3696.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jon Keeling
> >

Final question about the flyers before I print 'em out. At the bottom
of the flyer, it says "For more information, call 831-224-3199". I
assume that's Jeremy's number. Do you want that on there? I could
change it to direct them to the googlegroup.

-But, today is a different time and I realize that not everyone is as
much of a fanatic as me...
Well, yes, that's true. However, this is still just the beginning.
When we get a solid core of students, we'll be able to safely set up
another day or two to increase our karate intake. If we all remember,
in the beginning, we're just gonna do one class to build up a solid
base of returning (hopefully) students. Then, when there's a
personal/social motivation, we can have more classes and those sucked
in to Shotokan won't be deterred by which day is better.

-Imagine if we could get just TWO % of the UCSC students.
Imagine if we could get just TWO UCSC students! ;-)

Oh yes, there's definitely potential.

-Aim high. Expect low.
Hell, I do that every time I spar! I aim to execute a jodan zuki, but
I end up running out of energy and it ends up being a gedan zuki. ;-)
(Yes, I need to train more often)




--- In UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Keeling (JKASV)" <Jon@...>
wrote:
>
> Kyle Abbott wrote:
> >
> > Ok, keeping your answer in mind, it still begs the question, in your
> > opinion, you, who have lead classes for years at UCSC, Later sat,
> > later-week early-week. Which do you think will have better turnout and
> > attendance?
> >
> > -I could only make it on Saturday afternoons or Sundays
> > Since, in the beginning, we're just gonna have one class per week, it
> > would seem that Sat afternoon would be the best day. However, it *is*
> > Saturday afternoon. Do you think students be sober that late in the
> > weekend?
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> Josh & I spoke about this on the phone last week and we basically
> agreed that the best strategy might be a weekday evening class
> each week and additionally whenever a senior instructor
> (eg Peck Sensei or me) can make it on a weekend, those
> classes can be organized as extras, most likely on a
> Saturday afternoon or Sunday morning.  So perhaps it would
> turn out to be approximately 6 classes/month.  Jeremy and
> I used to train 15+ hours/week in Tokyo in the mid-1980's.
> But, today is a different time and I realize that not
> everyone is as much of a fanatic as me...
>
> Update on my kids' classes. I taught nine 4th-6th graders
> yesterday. I have 24 2nd-3rd graders signed up for
> tomorrow.  That is almost 20% of the student population
> at this afterschool facility that are eligible (I'm not
> accepting younger than 2nd grade, where apparently the
> demand may have actually been even greater!).  Imagine if
> we could get just TWO % of the UCSC students. 30 students
> would be about 0.2%.  There is definitely some potential.
>
> Aim high. Expect low.  That's a lesson for life for you
> youngsters reading this.
>
> Just in case, my cell is 650-580-3696.
>
> Thanks,
> Jon Keeling
>

oh,maybe i am wrong about the table.  again- check with mark. and for parking
passes for all.  parking is u\sually in the lot below the festival.


jon willson


--- On Thu, 9/18/08, Josh Martin <chefjrousseau@...> wrote:

> From: Josh Martin <chefjrousseau@...>
> Subject: Re: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall Festival, Sep 23
> To: UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 8:28 PM
> Ah, Bronzed God! 
>  
> I do have a table.  I have a bunch of tables.  However,
> could someone take it up early for us...Abbot brothers?  I
> have to work on Tuesday and will not be able to leave before
> 3ish.   
>  
> Josh
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Luke Abbott <etc.yahoo@...>
> To: UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 4:48:48 PM
> Subject: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall Festival, Sep 23
>
>
> Hey Bronzed God,
>
> Forget about our table. We need something of a normal
> height.
> Rereading Josh's message, it looks like he'll be
> supplying one.
> Problem solved.
>
> Luke
>
> --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com, "Kyle
> Abbott" <fiddlefella@ ...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Alright. Great summary and info Josh.
> >
> > Ok, I'll print out the fliers as they are.
> We'll also bring the medals
> > from that tourney, though if anybody else has medals
> they've won at
> > tourneys, perhaps they could add to the pot? . . .
> Daniel? JK,JP or
> > JM? Alisa? I'll see what training pics I have and
> make prints. Maybe
> > I'll use one from the Shinkyu beach training (hey,
> UCSC people were
> > there, right?). Some of those looked pretty good.
> >
> > The fester is from 3:00-6:00. Perhaps we can get there
> half-hour early
> > to set up?
> >
> > That brings up the unanswered question about the
> table. Since, from
> > what I've heard, we won't be given a table,
> I've thrown out the offer
> > for our table. However, since it's seiza height,
> if anybody has
> > something taller, that may be more . . . beneficial.
> >
> > And yes, let's heed JonW's advice. For those
> of us who aren't bronzed
> > gods, please bring sunscreen. I, on the otherhand,
> will let the sun
> > scorch!
> >
> > See you soon,
> >
> > Kyle
> > --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com, Josh Martin
> <chefjrousseau@ >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Everyone,
> > >
> > > I emailed Mark McCarroll about the room
> situation.  Please read
> > below.  When we secure more than 8 student at OPERs
> (which we
> > will) and we find a student to be the UCSC club
> president.  I will
> > take on a volunteer statues to secure workman's
> comp insurance and
> > learn all the policies and procedures to run a
> club...In short, we are
> > going to revive the club. 
> > >
> > > As for the days and hours, I am leaning towards a
> week night in a
> > raquet ball court or Saturday afternoons.    I will
> have to confer
> > with my better half about Saturday afternoons. 
> > >
> > > We will find students to train this
> Tuesday.  Keeling Sensei will
> > come and teach as much as possible.  I will find a
> student to take a
> > lead rule in the club.   
> > >
> > > Yes, Kyle please print a hundred fliers for the
> club.  We will not
> > be able to know what the time for classes will be
> until we secure
> > students. 
> > >
> > > Keeling Sensei is going to bring some shade,
> students and
> > instruction.  Kyle will bring the fliers, pictures,
> and melted
> > medals.  Luke will come.  Alise will come. Mellisa
> will come.  I will
> > bring a table, books, and mucho club spirit. 
> > >
> > > See you all on Tuesday.  By the way, does anyone
> know what time
> > OPERS is going to be and for how long?
> > >
> > > Osu,
> > > Josh
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mark G McCarroll [mailto:markomc@ ]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:54 PM
> > > To: Josh Martin
> > > Subject: Re: Shotokan Karate Club
> > >
> > > Hi Josh
> > > First you have to establish the club for this
> coming year.
> > > Going to the Fall Festival will be a good start.
> > > Once you have at least eight students who are
> > > interested.. .
> > > which will probably be next week...
> > > Then we can meet and you would need to sign up as
> a
> > > volunteer so that you're covered by
> workman's comp and you
> > > can so that you can get into the East Field
> House...
> > > Also this club needs a student to run it.
> > > And... you need to know all the policies and
> procedures to
> > > run a club...
> > > Also liability comes into play.
> > > So that's the start.
> > > Mark
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:33:58 -0700
> > >   "Josh Martin" <joshm@> wrote:
> > > > Hi Mr. McCarroll,
> > > >
> > > > I hope you are doing well today.  I was
> given your name
> > > >as a contact by
> > > > Skippy Given during the last Student
> Association
> > > >Luncheon that we catered
> > > > here at the University Inn.  As you may
> know, Jon Wilson
> > > >Sensei has
> > > > relocated to sunny San Diego and will not be
> returning
> > > >to teach this
> > > > quarter.  However, there are a few
> dedicated students
> > > >left (including
> > > > myself) who would like to keep the club
> alive.  I am
> > > >ranked Shodan, first
> > > > degree black belt, with the Japanese Karate
> Association
> > > >and would like to
> > > > take over instruction for the club. 
> > > >
> > > > I know this is a last minute request, but I
> had to
> > > >consider the commitment
> > > > issues with the students, wife and work.  I
> am familiar
> > > >with UCSC policies
> > > > and procedures regarding club
> participation.  Based on
> > > >your reply, we are
> > > > hoping to attend the OPERS event, knowing
> that we aren't
> > > >registered, I will
> > > > bring a table for us to set up to the side
> of registered
> > > >club participants
> > > > (if this is O.K.,) and we hope that we will
> get a strong
> > > >commitment for
> > > > participation from new students.  If any
> there is any
> > > >room available we
> > > > would be grateful for one night a week,
> preferably
> > > >Thursdays in the 6-8pm
> > > > range.  It doesn't have to be the
> martial arts room, any
> > > >room with hard wood
> > > > floors and mirrors would suffice. 
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Joshua R. Martin
> > > >Food and Beverage Manager
> > > > University Inn and Conference Center
> > > > 611 Ocean Street
> > > > Santa Cruz, CA. 95060
> > > > Phone (831) 466-1370
> > > >Fax (831) 420-1625
> > > >
> > > > "What ever you do, or dream you can do,
> begin it.
> > > > Boldness has genius,
> > > > power, and magic in it!"
> > > > -Goethe
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> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Jon Keeling (JKASV) <Jon@>
> > > To: UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:18:10 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall Festival,
> Sep 23
> > >
> > >
> > > Kyle Abbott wrote:
> > >
> > > > which day
> > > > do you think would have better student
> participation: having a later
> > > > class on Saturday, an earlier weekday class
> in a good room, or a
> later
> > > > weekday class in the racquetball court?
> > >
> > > I think that that the opinion of whoever is the
> most qualified to
> > > lead the weekday classes should be given the most
> weight. At this
> > > point, that may be the Abbott brothers. But there
> is a chance
> > > that someone else might come along that has a
> shodan from elsewhere,
> > > or Josh may be available(?) ...
> > >
> > > As for the weekends, I could only make it on
> Saturday afternoons
> > > or Sundays. That would be once or twice each
> month, depending
> > > on my schedule. It has been suggested that these
> weekend classes
> > > might occur just on the days I (or another black
> belt) can make it.
> > >
> > > It is nice having a larger room. But I was
> actually brought up
> > > training in racquetball courts for the first 3
> years of my
> > > training (going back to 1982, before some of you
> were born...).
> > > We often had more than a dozen people in class
> and it didn't
> > > seem like it was such a tight squeeze. I think
> that the day
> > > and time is most important.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com, Alisa
> Neeman <aneeman@ >
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>I just talked with Mark. Here's the
> deal:
> > > >>
> > > >>His main concern is whether there will be
> enough interest; much
> > > >> hinges on
> > > >>the number of names/emails you can get at
> the fall festival (and
> > > >>ultimately how many UC students sign the
> liability waiver as
> > > >>participants. As I recall the minimum
> number is 8 liability
> > signatories
> > > >>to be recognized by OPERS as a viable
> student club).
> > >
> > > There are 42 members on this YahooGroup alone.
> All we need
> > > is 1/5 of that #. I am sure that we can get
> plenty of
> > > names from the fall festival. The question is How
> many
> > > would actually sign the liability waiver? I
> suggest
> > > having copies of that waiver at the festival. It
> can't
> > > hurt...
> > >
> > > BTW, I just taught my first 4-6 graders'
> class today. I
> > > will be teaching 2-3 graders on Friday. I am not
> allowing
> > > in those below 2nd grade, or else I would have
> had twice
> > > as many people sign up. Sure, these little kids
> are
> > > different than university students. But if I can
> get
> > > 30 people out of 350 to attend my classes, I
> would
> > > think that out of 15,000+ at UCSC, enough to form
> the
> > > club should be within the realm of possibilities.
> ..
> > >
> > > >>
> > > >>Assuming enough participants, here's
> room possibilities:
> > > >>
> > > >>Weeknights 4:30-10pm are fully booked
> except for racquetball courts.
> > > >>Daytime is possible.
> > > >>
> > > >>Saturdays after 2:30pm are possible.
> > > >>
> > > >>Mark also wanted to know who is in
> charge. That person is not
> me, but
> > > >>again, I am willing to do some liason
> work. So Kyle, or Keeling
> > > >>sensei or
> > > >>someone needs to answer that.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Being that this is a university club, the
> responsible person must
> > > be a student of faculty, at least officially..
> .Someone not
> > > directly connected to the university can fill in
> forms, coordinate
> > > things with OPERS, teach... But there must be
> club officers who
> > > "officially" make the decisions. These
> officers can be decided
> > > on after we get a list together. Who
> knows...Someone may actually
> > > WANT to be "in charge" of the club...
> > >
> > > Please keep practicing your kata in preparation
> for the
> > > demonstrations. I should be able to be there just
> a little
> > > early to help set up. I may not be able to stay
> to the
> > > end, because I need to deal with getting my kids
> to my
> > > house for the night. But I'll be there until
> as late as
> > > I can manage. I can bring the Abbotts' old
> canopy thing
> > > to put over the table (Josh is bringing one, I
> believe).
> > > I will try to bring a few other things as well.
> It will
> > > be fun.
> > >
> > > Gotta run. Please keep spreading the word about
> the club
> > > to anyone you know at UCSC.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jon Keeling
> > >
> >

double check but opers usually has a table for us.  in the last few years they
have set it up in the field at our assigned space. get something "attractive" to
hang on the canopy to draw attention.

jon willson


--- On Thu, 9/18/08, Kyle Abbott <fiddlefella@...> wrote:

> From: Kyle Abbott <fiddlefella@...>
> Subject: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall Festival, Sep 23
> To: UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 8:42 PM
> Oh *phhh*. Silly me, I didn't see it. I gotta stop
> looking into the sun.
>
> -could someone take it up early for us...Abbot brothers?
> Well, I don't know if the Abbot brothers can do it, but
> I know that we
> Abbott brothers can definitely take it up!
>
> Kyle
> --- In UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com, Josh Martin
> <chefjrousseau@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Ah, Bronzed God! 
> >  
> > I do have a table.  I have a bunch of tables. 
> However, could
> someone take it up early for us...Abbot brothers?  I have
> to work on
> Tuesday and will not be able to leave before 3ish.   
> >  
> > Josh
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Luke Abbott <etc.yahoo@...>
> > To: UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 4:48:48 PM
> > Subject: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall Festival, Sep 23
> >
> >
> > Hey Bronzed God,
> >
> > Forget about our table. We need something of a normal
> height.
> > Rereading Josh's message, it looks like he'll
> be supplying one.
> > Problem solved.
> >
> > Luke
> >
> > --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com, "Kyle
> Abbott" <fiddlefella@ ...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Alright. Great summary and info Josh.
> > >
> > > Ok, I'll print out the fliers as they are.
> We'll also bring the medals
> > > from that tourney, though if anybody else has
> medals they've won at
> > > tourneys, perhaps they could add to the pot? . .
> . Daniel? JK,JP or
> > > JM? Alisa? I'll see what training pics I have
> and make prints. Maybe
> > > I'll use one from the Shinkyu beach training
> (hey, UCSC people were
> > > there, right?). Some of those looked pretty good.
> > >
> > > The fester is from 3:00-6:00. Perhaps we can get
> there half-hour early
> > > to set up?
> > >
> > > That brings up the unanswered question about the
> table. Since, from
> > > what I've heard, we won't be given a
> table, I've thrown out the offer
> > > for our table. However, since it's seiza
> height, if anybody has
> > > something taller, that may be more . . .
> beneficial.
> > >
> > > And yes, let's heed JonW's advice. For
> those of us who aren't bronzed
> > > gods, please bring sunscreen. I, on the
> otherhand, will let the sun
> > > scorch!
> > >
> > > See you soon,
> > >
> > > Kyle
> > > --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com, Josh
> Martin <chefjrousseau@ >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Everyone,
> > > >
> > > > I emailed Mark McCarroll about the room
> situation.  Please read
> > > below.  When we secure more than 8 student at
> OPERs (which we
> > > will) and we find a student to be the UCSC
> club president.  I will
> > > take on a volunteer statues to secure
> workman's comp insurance and
> > > learn all the policies and procedures to run a
> club...In short, we are
> > > going to revive the club. 
> > > >
> > > > As for the days and hours, I am leaning
> towards a week night in a
> > > raquet ball court or Saturday afternoons.    I
> will have to confer
> > > with my better half about Saturday afternoons. 
>
> > > >
> > > > We will find students to train this
> Tuesday.  Keeling Sensei will
> > > come and teach as much as possible.  I will
> find a student to take a
> > > lead rule in the club.   
> > > >
> > > > Yes, Kyle please print a hundred fliers for
> the club.  We will not
> > > be able to know what the time for classes will be
> until we secure
> > > students. 
> > > >
> > > > Keeling Sensei is going to bring some shade,
> students and
> > > instruction.  Kyle will bring the fliers,
> pictures, and melted
> > > medals.  Luke will come.  Alise will come.
> Mellisa will come.  I will
> > > bring a table, books, and mucho club spirit. 
> > > >
> > > > See you all on Tuesday.  By the way, does
> anyone know what time
> > > OPERS is going to be and for how long?
> > > >
> > > > Osu,
> > > > Josh
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Mark G McCarroll [mailto:markomc@ ]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:54 PM
> > > > To: Josh Martin
> > > > Subject: Re: Shotokan Karate Club
> > > >
> > > > Hi Josh
> > > > First you have to establish the club for
> this coming year.
> > > > Going to the Fall Festival will be a good
> start.
> > > > Once you have at least eight students who
> are
> > > > interested.. .
> > > > which will probably be next week...
> > > > Then we can meet and you would need to sign
> up as a
> > > > volunteer so that you're covered by
> workman's comp and you
> > > > can so that you can get into the East Field
> House...
> > > > Also this club needs a student to run it.
> > > > And... you need to know all the policies and
> procedures to
> > > > run a club...
> > > > Also liability comes into play.
> > > > So that's the start.
> > > > Mark
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:33:58 -0700
> > > >   "Josh Martin" <joshm@>
> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Mr. McCarroll,
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope you are doing well today.  I
> was given your name
> > > > >as a contact by
> > > > > Skippy Given during the last Student
> Association
> > > > >Luncheon that we catered
> > > > > here at the University Inn.  As you
> may know, Jon Wilson
> > > > >Sensei has
> > > > > relocated to sunny San Diego and will
> not be returning
> > > > >to teach this
> > > > > quarter.  However, there are a few
> dedicated students
> > > > >left (including
> > > > > myself) who would like to keep the club
> alive.  I am
> > > > >ranked Shodan, first
> > > > > degree black belt, with the Japanese
> Karate Association
> > > > >and would like to
> > > > > take over instruction for the club. 
> > > > >
> > > > > I know this is a last minute request,
> but I had to
> > > > >consider the commitment
> > > > > issues with the students, wife and
> work.  I am familiar
> > > > >with UCSC policies
> > > > > and procedures regarding club
> participation.  Based on
> > > > >your reply, we are
> > > > > hoping to attend the OPERS event,
> knowing that we aren't
> > > > >registered, I will
> > > > > bring a table for us to set up to the
> side of registered
> > > > >club participants
> > > > > (if this is O.K.,) and we hope that we
> will get a strong
> > > > >commitment for
> > > > > participation from new students.  If
> any there is any
> > > > >room available we
> > > > > would be grateful for one night a week,
> preferably
> > > > >Thursdays in the 6-8pm
> > > > > range.  It doesn't have to be the
> martial arts room, any
> > > > >room with hard wood
> > > > > floors and mirrors would suffice. 
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Joshua R. Martin
> > > > >Food and Beverage Manager
> > > > > University Inn and Conference Center
> > > > > 611 Ocean Street
> > > > > Santa Cruz, CA. 95060
> > > > > Phone (831) 466-1370
> > > > >Fax (831) 420-1625
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> > > > > "What ever you do, or dream you
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> > > > > Boldness has genius,
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > > From: Jon Keeling (JKASV) <Jon@>
> > > > To: UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:18:10
> PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall
> Festival, Sep 23
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kyle Abbott wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > which day
> > > > > do you think would have better student
> participation: having a
> later
> > > > > class on Saturday, an earlier weekday
> class in a good room, or a
> > later
> > > > > weekday class in the racquetball court?
> > > >
> > > > I think that that the opinion of whoever is
> the most qualified to
> > > > lead the weekday classes should be given the
> most weight. At this
> > > > point, that may be the Abbott brothers. But
> there is a chance
> > > > that someone else might come along that has
> a shodan from elsewhere,
> > > > or Josh may be available(?) ...
> > > >
> > > > As for the weekends, I could only make it on
> Saturday afternoons
> > > > or Sundays. That would be once or twice each
> month, depending
> > > > on my schedule. It has been suggested that
> these weekend classes
> > > > might occur just on the days I (or another
> black belt) can make it.
> > > >
> > > > It is nice having a larger room. But I was
> actually brought up
> > > > training in racquetball courts for the first
> 3 years of my
> > > > training (going back to 1982, before some of
> you were born...).
> > > > We often had more than a dozen people in
> class and it didn't
> > > > seem like it was such a tight squeeze. I
> think that the day
> > > > and time is most important.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com,
> Alisa Neeman <aneeman@ >
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>I just talked with Mark. Here's
> the deal:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>His main concern is whether there
> will be enough interest; much
> > > > >> hinges on
> > > > >>the number of names/emails you can
> get at the fall festival (and
> > > > >>ultimately how many UC students sign
> the liability waiver as
> > > > >>participants. As I recall the
> minimum number is 8 liability
> > > signatories
> > > > >>to be recognized by OPERS as a
> viable student club).
> > > >
> > > > There are 42 members on this YahooGroup
> alone. All we need
> > > > is 1/5 of that #. I am sure that we can get
> plenty of
> > > > names from the fall festival. The question
> is How many
> > > > would actually sign the liability waiver? I
> suggest
> > > > having copies of that waiver at the
> festival. It can't
> > > > hurt...
> > > >
> > > > BTW, I just taught my first 4-6 graders'
> class today. I
> > > > will be teaching 2-3 graders on Friday. I am
> not allowing
> > > > in those below 2nd grade, or else I would
> have had twice
> > > > as many people sign up. Sure, these little
> kids are
> > > > different than university students. But if I
> can get
> > > > 30 people out of 350 to attend my classes, I
> would
> > > > think that out of 15,000+ at UCSC, enough to
> form the
> > > > club should be within the realm of
> possibilities. ..
> > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Assuming enough participants,
> here's room possibilities:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Weeknights 4:30-10pm are fully
> booked except for racquetball
> courts.
> > > > >>Daytime is possible.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Saturdays after 2:30pm are possible.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Mark also wanted to know who is in
> charge. That person is not
> > me, but
> > > > >>again, I am willing to do some
> liason work. So Kyle, or Keeling
> > > > >>sensei or
> > > > >>someone needs to answer that.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Being that this is a university club, the
> responsible person must
> > > > be a student of faculty, at least
> officially.. .Someone not
> > > > directly connected to the university can
> fill in forms, coordinate
> > > > things with OPERS, teach... But there must
> be club officers who
> > > > "officially" make the decisions.
> These officers can be decided
> > > > on after we get a list together. Who
> knows...Someone may actually
> > > > WANT to be "in charge" of the
> club...
> > > >
> > > > Please keep practicing your kata in
> preparation for the
> > > > demonstrations. I should be able to be there
> just a little
> > > > early to help set up. I may not be able to
> stay to the
> > > > end, because I need to deal with getting my
> kids to my
> > > > house for the night. But I'll be there
> until as late as
> > > > I can manage. I can bring the Abbotts'
> old canopy thing
> > > > to put over the table (Josh is bringing one,
> I believe).
> > > > I will try to bring a few other things as
> well. It will
> > > > be fun.
> > > >
> > > > Gotta run. Please keep spreading the word
> about the club
> > > > to anyone you know at UCSC.
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Jon Keeling
> > > >
> > >
> >

Kyle Abbott wrote:
>
> Ok, keeping your answer in mind, it still begs the question, in your
> opinion, you, who have lead classes for years at UCSC, Later sat,
> later-week early-week. Which do you think will have better turnout and
> attendance?
>
> -I could only make it on Saturday afternoons or Sundays
> Since, in the beginning, we're just gonna have one class per week, it
> would seem that Sat afternoon would be the best day. However, it *is*
> Saturday afternoon. Do you think students be sober that late in the
> weekend?

Josh & I spoke about this on the phone last week and we basically
agreed that the best strategy might be a weekday evening class
each week and additionally whenever a senior instructor
(eg Peck Sensei or me) can make it on a weekend, those
classes can be organized as extras, most likely on a
Saturday afternoon or Sunday morning.  So perhaps it would
turn out to be approximately 6 classes/month.  Jeremy and
I used to train 15+ hours/week in Tokyo in the mid-1980's.
But, today is a different time and I realize that not
everyone is as much of a fanatic as me...

Update on my kids' classes. I taught nine 4th-6th graders
yesterday. I have 24 2nd-3rd graders signed up for
tomorrow.  That is almost 20% of the student population
at this afterschool facility that are eligible (I'm not
accepting younger than 2nd grade, where apparently the
demand may have actually been even greater!).  Imagine if
we could get just TWO % of the UCSC students. 30 students
would be about 0.2%.  There is definitely some potential.

Aim high. Expect low.  That's a lesson for life for you
youngsters reading this.

Just in case, my cell is 650-580-3696.

Thanks,
Jon Keeling

Oh *phhh*. Silly me, I didn't see it. I gotta stop looking into the sun.

-could someone take it up early for us...Abbot brothers?
Well, I don't know if the Abbot brothers can do it, but I know that we
Abbott brothers can definitely take it up!

Kyle
--- In UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com, Josh Martin <chefjrousseau@...>
wrote:
>
> Ah, Bronzed God! 
>  
> I do have a table.  I have a bunch of tables.  However, could
someone take it up early for us...Abbot brothers?  I have to work on
Tuesday and will not be able to leave before 3ish.   
>  
> Josh
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Luke Abbott <etc.yahoo@...>
> To: UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 4:48:48 PM
> Subject: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall Festival, Sep 23
>
>
> Hey Bronzed God,
>
> Forget about our table. We need something of a normal height.
> Rereading Josh's message, it looks like he'll be supplying one.
> Problem solved.
>
> Luke
>
> --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com, "Kyle Abbott" <fiddlefella@ ...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Alright. Great summary and info Josh.
> >
> > Ok, I'll print out the fliers as they are. We'll also bring the medals
> > from that tourney, though if anybody else has medals they've won at
> > tourneys, perhaps they could add to the pot? . . . Daniel? JK,JP or
> > JM? Alisa? I'll see what training pics I have and make prints. Maybe
> > I'll use one from the Shinkyu beach training (hey, UCSC people were
> > there, right?). Some of those looked pretty good.
> >
> > The fester is from 3:00-6:00. Perhaps we can get there half-hour early
> > to set up?
> >
> > That brings up the unanswered question about the table. Since, from
> > what I've heard, we won't be given a table, I've thrown out the offer
> > for our table. However, since it's seiza height, if anybody has
> > something taller, that may be more . . . beneficial.
> >
> > And yes, let's heed JonW's advice. For those of us who aren't bronzed
> > gods, please bring sunscreen. I, on the otherhand, will let the sun
> > scorch!
> >
> > See you soon,
> >
> > Kyle
> > --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com, Josh Martin <chefjrousseau@ >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Everyone,
> > >
> > > I emailed Mark McCarroll about the room situation.  Please read
> > below.  When we secure more than 8 student at OPERs (which we
> > will) and we find a student to be the UCSC club president.  I will
> > take on a volunteer statues to secure workman's comp insurance and
> > learn all the policies and procedures to run a club...In short, we are
> > going to revive the club. 
> > >
> > > As for the days and hours, I am leaning towards a week night in a
> > raquet ball court or Saturday afternoons.    I will have to confer
> > with my better half about Saturday afternoons. 
> > >
> > > We will find students to train this Tuesday.  Keeling Sensei will
> > come and teach as much as possible.  I will find a student to take a
> > lead rule in the club.   
> > >
> > > Yes, Kyle please print a hundred fliers for the club.  We will not
> > be able to know what the time for classes will be until we secure
> > students. 
> > >
> > > Keeling Sensei is going to bring some shade, students and
> > instruction.  Kyle will bring the fliers, pictures, and melted
> > medals.  Luke will come.  Alise will come. Mellisa will come.  I will
> > bring a table, books, and mucho club spirit. 
> > >
> > > See you all on Tuesday.  By the way, does anyone know what time
> > OPERS is going to be and for how long?
> > >
> > > Osu,
> > > Josh
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mark G McCarroll [mailto:markomc@ ]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:54 PM
> > > To: Josh Martin
> > > Subject: Re: Shotokan Karate Club
> > >
> > > Hi Josh
> > > First you have to establish the club for this coming year.
> > > Going to the Fall Festival will be a good start.
> > > Once you have at least eight students who are
> > > interested.. .
> > > which will probably be next week...
> > > Then we can meet and you would need to sign up as a
> > > volunteer so that you're covered by workman's comp and you
> > > can so that you can get into the East Field House...
> > > Also this club needs a student to run it.
> > > And... you need to know all the policies and procedures to
> > > run a club...
> > > Also liability comes into play.
> > > So that's the start.
> > > Mark
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:33:58 -0700
> > >   "Josh Martin" <joshm@> wrote:
> > > > Hi Mr. McCarroll,
> > > >
> > > > I hope you are doing well today.  I was given your name
> > > >as a contact by
> > > > Skippy Given during the last Student Association
> > > >Luncheon that we catered
> > > > here at the University Inn.  As you may know, Jon Wilson
> > > >Sensei has
> > > > relocated to sunny San Diego and will not be returning
> > > >to teach this
> > > > quarter.  However, there are a few dedicated students
> > > >left (including
> > > > myself) who would like to keep the club alive.  I am
> > > >ranked Shodan, first
> > > > degree black belt, with the Japanese Karate Association
> > > >and would like to
> > > > take over instruction for the club. 
> > > >
> > > > I know this is a last minute request, but I had to
> > > >consider the commitment
> > > > issues with the students, wife and work.  I am familiar
> > > >with UCSC policies
> > > > and procedures regarding club participation.  Based on
> > > >your reply, we are
> > > > hoping to attend the OPERS event, knowing that we aren't
> > > >registered, I will
> > > > bring a table for us to set up to the side of registered
> > > >club participants
> > > > (if this is O.K.,) and we hope that we will get a strong
> > > >commitment for
> > > > participation from new students.  If any there is any
> > > >room available we
> > > > would be grateful for one night a week, preferably
> > > >Thursdays in the 6-8pm
> > > > range.  It doesn't have to be the martial arts room, any
> > > >room with hard wood
> > > > floors and mirrors would suffice. 
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Joshua R. Martin
> > > >Food and Beverage Manager
> > > > University Inn and Conference Center
> > > > 611 Ocean Street
> > > > Santa Cruz, CA. 95060
> > > > Phone (831) 466-1370
> > > >Fax (831) 420-1625
> > > >
> > > > "What ever you do, or dream you can do, begin it.
> > > > Boldness has genius,
> > > > power, and magic in it!"
> > > > -Goethe
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> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Jon Keeling (JKASV) <Jon@>
> > > To: UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:18:10 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall Festival, Sep 23
> > >
> > >
> > > Kyle Abbott wrote:
> > >
> > > > which day
> > > > do you think would have better student participation: having a
later
> > > > class on Saturday, an earlier weekday class in a good room, or a
> later
> > > > weekday class in the racquetball court?
> > >
> > > I think that that the opinion of whoever is the most qualified to
> > > lead the weekday classes should be given the most weight. At this
> > > point, that may be the Abbott brothers. But there is a chance
> > > that someone else might come along that has a shodan from elsewhere,
> > > or Josh may be available(?) ...
> > >
> > > As for the weekends, I could only make it on Saturday afternoons
> > > or Sundays. That would be once or twice each month, depending
> > > on my schedule. It has been suggested that these weekend classes
> > > might occur just on the days I (or another black belt) can make it.
> > >
> > > It is nice having a larger room. But I was actually brought up
> > > training in racquetball courts for the first 3 years of my
> > > training (going back to 1982, before some of you were born...).
> > > We often had more than a dozen people in class and it didn't
> > > seem like it was such a tight squeeze. I think that the day
> > > and time is most important.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com, Alisa Neeman <aneeman@ >
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>I just talked with Mark. Here's the deal:
> > > >>
> > > >>His main concern is whether there will be enough interest; much
> > > >> hinges on
> > > >>the number of names/emails you can get at the fall festival (and
> > > >>ultimately how many UC students sign the liability waiver as
> > > >>participants. As I recall the minimum number is 8 liability
> > signatories
> > > >>to be recognized by OPERS as a viable student club).
> > >
> > > There are 42 members on this YahooGroup alone. All we need
> > > is 1/5 of that #. I am sure that we can get plenty of
> > > names from the fall festival. The question is How many
> > > would actually sign the liability waiver? I suggest
> > > having copies of that waiver at the festival. It can't
> > > hurt...
> > >
> > > BTW, I just taught my first 4-6 graders' class today. I
> > > will be teaching 2-3 graders on Friday. I am not allowing
> > > in those below 2nd grade, or else I would have had twice
> > > as many people sign up. Sure, these little kids are
> > > different than university students. But if I can get
> > > 30 people out of 350 to attend my classes, I would
> > > think that out of 15,000+ at UCSC, enough to form the
> > > club should be within the realm of possibilities. ..
> > >
> > > >>
> > > >>Assuming enough participants, here's room possibilities:
> > > >>
> > > >>Weeknights 4:30-10pm are fully booked except for racquetball
courts.
> > > >>Daytime is possible.
> > > >>
> > > >>Saturdays after 2:30pm are possible.
> > > >>
> > > >>Mark also wanted to know who is in charge. That person is not
> me, but
> > > >>again, I am willing to do some liason work. So Kyle, or Keeling
> > > >>sensei or
> > > >>someone needs to answer that.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Being that this is a university club, the responsible person must
> > > be a student of faculty, at least officially.. .Someone not
> > > directly connected to the university can fill in forms, coordinate
> > > things with OPERS, teach... But there must be club officers who
> > > "officially" make the decisions. These officers can be decided
> > > on after we get a list together. Who knows...Someone may actually
> > > WANT to be "in charge" of the club...
> > >
> > > Please keep practicing your kata in preparation for the
> > > demonstrations. I should be able to be there just a little
> > > early to help set up. I may not be able to stay to the
> > > end, because I need to deal with getting my kids to my
> > > house for the night. But I'll be there until as late as
> > > I can manage. I can bring the Abbotts' old canopy thing
> > > to put over the table (Josh is bringing one, I believe).
> > > I will try to bring a few other things as well. It will
> > > be fun.
> > >
> > > Gotta run. Please keep spreading the word about the club
> > > to anyone you know at UCSC.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jon Keeling
> > >
> >
>

Hey Bronzed God,

Forget about our table. We need something of a normal height.
Rereading Josh's message, it looks like he'll be supplying one.
Problem solved.

Luke



--- In UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com, "Kyle Abbott" <fiddlefella@...>
wrote:
>
> Alright. Great summary and info Josh.
>
> Ok, I'll print out the fliers as they are. We'll also bring the medals
> from that tourney, though if anybody else has medals they've won at
> tourneys, perhaps they could add to the pot? . . . Daniel? JK,JP or
> JM? Alisa? I'll see what training pics I have and make prints. Maybe
> I'll use one from the Shinkyu beach training (hey, UCSC people were
> there, right?). Some of those looked pretty good.
>
> The fester is from 3:00-6:00. Perhaps we can get there half-hour early
> to set up?
>
> That brings up the unanswered question about the table. Since, from
> what I've heard, we won't be given a table, I've thrown out the offer
> for our table. However, since it's seiza height, if anybody has
> something taller, that may be more . . . beneficial.
>
> And yes, let's heed JonW's advice. For those of us who aren't bronzed
> gods, please bring sunscreen. I, on the otherhand, will let the sun
> scorch!
>
> See you soon,
>
> Kyle
> --- In UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com, Josh Martin <chefjrousseau@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > I emailed Mark McCarroll about the room situation.  Please read
> below.  When we secure more than 8 student at OPERs (which we
> will) and we find a student to be the UCSC club president.  I will
> take on a volunteer statues to secure workman's comp insurance and
> learn all the policies and procedures to run a club...In short, we are
> going to revive the club. 
> >
> > As for the days and hours, I am leaning towards a week night in a
> raquet ball court or Saturday afternoons.    I will have to confer
> with my better half about Saturday afternoons. 
> >
> > We will find students to train this Tuesday.  Keeling Sensei will
> come and teach as much as possible.  I will find a student to take a
> lead rule in the club.   
> >
> > Yes, Kyle please print a hundred fliers for the club.  We will not
> be able to know what the time for classes will be until we secure
> students. 
> >
> > Keeling Sensei is going to bring some shade, students and
> instruction.  Kyle will bring the fliers, pictures, and melted
> medals.  Luke will come.  Alise will come. Mellisa will come.  I will
> bring a table, books, and mucho club spirit. 
> >
> > See you all on Tuesday.  By the way, does anyone know what time
> OPERS is going to be and for how long?
> >
> > Osu,
> > Josh
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark G McCarroll [mailto:markomc@]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:54 PM
> > To: Josh Martin
> > Subject: Re: Shotokan Karate Club
> >
> > Hi Josh
> > First you have to establish the club for this coming year.
> > Going to the Fall Festival will be a good start.
> > Once you have at least eight students who are
> > interested...
> > which will probably be next week...
> > Then we can meet and you would need to sign up as a
> > volunteer so that you're covered by workman's comp and you
> > can so that you can get into the East Field House...
> > Also this club needs a student to run it.
> > And... you need to know all the policies and procedures to
> > run a club...
> > Also liability comes into play.
> > So that's the start.
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:33:58 -0700
> >   "Josh Martin" <joshm@> wrote:
> > > Hi Mr. McCarroll,
> > >
> > > I hope you are doing well today.  I was given your name
> > >as a contact by
> > > Skippy Given during the last Student Association
> > >Luncheon that we catered
> > > here at the University Inn.  As you may know, Jon Wilson
> > >Sensei has
> > > relocated to sunny San Diego and will not be returning
> > >to teach this
> > > quarter.  However, there are a few dedicated students
> > >left (including
> > > myself) who would like to keep the club alive.  I am
> > >ranked Shodan, first
> > > degree black belt, with the Japanese Karate Association
> > >and would like to
> > > take over instruction for the club. 
> > >
> > > I know this is a last minute request, but I had to
> > >consider the commitment
> > > issues with the students, wife and work.  I am familiar
> > >with UCSC policies
> > > and procedures regarding club participation.  Based on
> > >your reply, we are
> > > hoping to attend the OPERS event, knowing that we aren't
> > >registered, I will
> > > bring a table for us to set up to the side of registered
> > >club participants
> > > (if this is O.K.,) and we hope that we will get a strong
> > >commitment for
> > > participation from new students.  If any there is any
> > >room available we
> > > would be grateful for one night a week, preferably
> > >Thursdays in the 6-8pm
> > > range.  It doesn't have to be the martial arts room, any
> > >room with hard wood
> > > floors and mirrors would suffice. 
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > >
> > >
> > > Joshua R. Martin
> > >Food and Beverage Manager
> > > University Inn and Conference Center
> > > 611 Ocean Street
> > > Santa Cruz, CA. 95060
> > > Phone (831) 466-1370
> > >Fax (831) 420-1625
> > >
> > > "What ever you do, or dream you can do, begin it.
> > > Boldness has genius,
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> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Jon Keeling (JKASV) <Jon@>
> > To: UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:18:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall Festival, Sep 23
> >
> >
> > Kyle Abbott wrote:
> >
> > > which day
> > > do you think would have better student participation: having a later
> > > class on Saturday, an earlier weekday class in a good room, or a
later
> > > weekday class in the racquetball court?
> >
> > I think that that the opinion of whoever is the most qualified to
> > lead the weekday classes should be given the most weight. At this
> > point, that may be the Abbott brothers. But there is a chance
> > that someone else might come along that has a shodan from elsewhere,
> > or Josh may be available(?) ...
> >
> > As for the weekends, I could only make it on Saturday afternoons
> > or Sundays. That would be once or twice each month, depending
> > on my schedule. It has been suggested that these weekend classes
> > might occur just on the days I (or another black belt) can make it.
> >
> > It is nice having a larger room. But I was actually brought up
> > training in racquetball courts for the first 3 years of my
> > training (going back to 1982, before some of you were born...).
> > We often had more than a dozen people in class and it didn't
> > seem like it was such a tight squeeze. I think that the day
> > and time is most important.
> >
> > >
> > > --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com, Alisa Neeman <aneeman@ >
wrote:
> > >
> > >>I just talked with Mark. Here's the deal:
> > >>
> > >>His main concern is whether there will be enough interest; much
> > >> hinges on
> > >>the number of names/emails you can get at the fall festival (and
> > >>ultimately how many UC students sign the liability waiver as
> > >>participants. As I recall the minimum number is 8 liability
> signatories
> > >>to be recognized by OPERS as a viable student club).
> >
> > There are 42 members on this YahooGroup alone. All we need
> > is 1/5 of that #. I am sure that we can get plenty of
> > names from the fall festival. The question is How many
> > would actually sign the liability waiver? I suggest
> > having copies of that waiver at the festival. It can't
> > hurt...
> >
> > BTW, I just taught my first 4-6 graders' class today. I
> > will be teaching 2-3 graders on Friday. I am not allowing
> > in those below 2nd grade, or else I would have had twice
> > as many people sign up. Sure, these little kids are
> > different than university students. But if I can get
> > 30 people out of 350 to attend my classes, I would
> > think that out of 15,000+ at UCSC, enough to form the
> > club should be within the realm of possibilities. ..
> >
> > >>
> > >>Assuming enough participants, here's room possibilities:
> > >>
> > >>Weeknights 4:30-10pm are fully booked except for racquetball courts.
> > >>Daytime is possible.
> > >>
> > >>Saturdays after 2:30pm are possible.
> > >>
> > >>Mark also wanted to know who is in charge. That person is not
me, but
> > >>again, I am willing to do some liason work. So Kyle, or Keeling
> > >>sensei or
> > >>someone needs to answer that.
> > >
> >
> > Being that this is a university club, the responsible person must
> > be a student of faculty, at least officially.. .Someone not
> > directly connected to the university can fill in forms, coordinate
> > things with OPERS, teach... But there must be club officers who
> > "officially" make the decisions. These officers can be decided
> > on after we get a list together. Who knows...Someone may actually
> > WANT to be "in charge" of the club...
> >
> > Please keep practicing your kata in preparation for the
> > demonstrations. I should be able to be there just a little
> > early to help set up. I may not be able to stay to the
> > end, because I need to deal with getting my kids to my
> > house for the night. But I'll be there until as late as
> > I can manage. I can bring the Abbotts' old canopy thing
> > to put over the table (Josh is bringing one, I believe).
> > I will try to bring a few other things as well. It will
> > be fun.
> >
> > Gotta run. Please keep spreading the word about the club
> > to anyone you know at UCSC.
> > Thanks,
> > Jon Keeling
> >
>

Alright. Great summary and info Josh.

Ok, I'll print out the fliers as they are. We'll also bring the medals
from that tourney, though if anybody else has medals they've won at
tourneys, perhaps they could add to the pot? . . . Daniel? JK,JP or
JM? Alisa? I'll see what training pics I have and make prints. Maybe
I'll use one from the Shinkyu beach training (hey, UCSC people were
there, right?). Some of those looked pretty good.

The fester is from 3:00-6:00. Perhaps we can get there half-hour early
to set up?

That brings up the unanswered question about the table. Since, from
what I've heard, we won't be given a table, I've thrown out the offer
for our table. However, since it's seiza height, if anybody has
something taller, that may be more . . . beneficial.

And yes, let's heed JonW's advice. For those of us who aren't bronzed
gods, please bring sunscreen. I, on the otherhand, will let the sun
scorch!

See you soon,

Kyle
--- In UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com, Josh Martin <chefjrousseau@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I emailed Mark McCarroll about the room situation.  Please read
below.  When we secure more than 8 student at OPERs (which we
will) and we find a student to be the UCSC club president.  I will
take on a volunteer statues to secure workman's comp insurance and
learn all the policies and procedures to run a club...In short, we are
going to revive the club. 
>
> As for the days and hours, I am leaning towards a week night in a
raquet ball court or Saturday afternoons.    I will have to confer
with my better half about Saturday afternoons. 
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> We will find students to train this Tuesday.  Keeling Sensei will
come and teach as much as possible.  I will find a student to take a
lead rule in the club.   
>
> Yes, Kyle please print a hundred fliers for the club.  We will not
be able to know what the time for classes will be until we secure
students. 
>
> Keeling Sensei is going to bring some shade, students and
instruction.  Kyle will bring the fliers, pictures, and melted
medals.  Luke will come.  Alise will come. Mellisa will come.  I will
bring a table, books, and mucho club spirit. 
>
> See you all on Tuesday.  By the way, does anyone know what time
OPERS is going to be and for how long?
>
> Osu,
> Josh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark G McCarroll [mailto:markomc@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:54 PM
> To: Josh Martin
> Subject: Re: Shotokan Karate Club
>
> Hi Josh
> First you have to establish the club for this coming year.
> Going to the Fall Festival will be a good start.
> Once you have at least eight students who are
> interested...
> which will probably be next week...
> Then we can meet and you would need to sign up as a
> volunteer so that you're covered by workman's comp and you
> can so that you can get into the East Field House...
> Also this club needs a student to run it.
> And... you need to know all the policies and procedures to
> run a club...
> Also liability comes into play.
> So that's the start.
> Mark
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> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:33:58 -0700
>   "Josh Martin" <joshm@...> wrote:
> > Hi Mr. McCarroll,
> >
> > I hope you are doing well today.  I was given your name
> >as a contact by
> > Skippy Given during the last Student Association
> >Luncheon that we catered
> > here at the University Inn.  As you may know, Jon Wilson
> >Sensei has
> > relocated to sunny San Diego and will not be returning
> >to teach this
> > quarter.  However, there are a few dedicated students
> >left (including
> > myself) who would like to keep the club alive.  I am
> >ranked Shodan, first
> > degree black belt, with the Japanese Karate Association
> >and would like to
> > take over instruction for the club. 
> >
> > I know this is a last minute request, but I had to
> >consider the commitment
> > issues with the students, wife and work.  I am familiar
> >with UCSC policies
> > and procedures regarding club participation.  Based on
> >your reply, we are
> > hoping to attend the OPERS event, knowing that we aren't
> >registered, I will
> > bring a table for us to set up to the side of registered
> >club participants
> > (if this is O.K.,) and we hope that we will get a strong
> >commitment for
> > participation from new students.  If any there is any
> >room available we
> > would be grateful for one night a week, preferably
> >Thursdays in the 6-8pm
> > range.  It doesn't have to be the martial arts room, any
> >room with hard wood
> > floors and mirrors would suffice. 
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> >
> > Joshua R. Martin
> >Food and Beverage Manager
> > University Inn and Conference Center
> > 611 Ocean Street
> > Santa Cruz, CA. 95060
> > Phone (831) 466-1370
> >Fax (831) 420-1625
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> > "What ever you do, or dream you can do, begin it.
> > Boldness has genius,
> > power, and magic in it!"
> > -Goethe
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Jon Keeling (JKASV) <Jon@...>
> To: UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:18:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall Festival, Sep 23
>
>
> Kyle Abbott wrote:
>
> > which day
> > do you think would have better student participation: having a later
> > class on Saturday, an earlier weekday class in a good room, or a later
> > weekday class in the racquetball court?
>
> I think that that the opinion of whoever is the most qualified to
> lead the weekday classes should be given the most weight. At this
> point, that may be the Abbott brothers. But there is a chance
> that someone else might come along that has a shodan from elsewhere,
> or Josh may be available(?) ...
>
> As for the weekends, I could only make it on Saturday afternoons
> or Sundays. That would be once or twice each month, depending
> on my schedule. It has been suggested that these weekend classes
> might occur just on the days I (or another black belt) can make it.
>
> It is nice having a larger room. But I was actually brought up
> training in racquetball courts for the first 3 years of my
> training (going back to 1982, before some of you were born...).
> We often had more than a dozen people in class and it didn't
> seem like it was such a tight squeeze. I think that the day
> and time is most important.
>
> >
> > --- In UCSCShotokan@ yahoogroups. com, Alisa Neeman <aneeman@ > wrote:
> >
> >>I just talked with Mark. Here's the deal:
> >>
> >>His main concern is whether there will be enough interest; much
> >> hinges on
> >>the number of names/emails you can get at the fall festival (and
> >>ultimately how many UC students sign the liability waiver as
> >>participants. As I recall the minimum number is 8 liability
signatories
> >>to be recognized by OPERS as a viable student club).
>
> There are 42 members on this YahooGroup alone. All we need
> is 1/5 of that #. I am sure that we can get plenty of
> names from the fall festival. The question is How many
> would actually sign the liability waiver? I suggest
> having copies of that waiver at the festival. It can't
> hurt...
>
> BTW, I just taught my first 4-6 graders' class today. I
> will be teaching 2-3 graders on Friday. I am not allowing
> in those below 2nd grade, or else I would have had twice
> as many people sign up. Sure, these little kids are
> different than university students. But if I can get
> 30 people out of 350 to attend my classes, I would
> think that out of 15,000+ at UCSC, enough to form the
> club should be within the realm of possibilities. ..
>
> >>
> >>Assuming enough participants, here's room possibilities:
> >>
> >>Weeknights 4:30-10pm are fully booked except for racquetball courts.
> >>Daytime is possible.
> >>
> >>Saturdays after 2:30pm are possible.
> >>
> >>Mark also wanted to know who is in charge. That person is not me, but
> >>again, I am willing to do some liason work. So Kyle, or Keeling
> >>sensei or
> >>someone needs to answer that.
> >
>
> Being that this is a university club, the responsible person must
> be a student of faculty, at least officially.. .Someone not
> directly connected to the university can fill in forms, coordinate
> things with OPERS, teach... But there must be club officers who
> "officially" make the decisions. These officers can be decided
> on after we get a list together. Who knows...Someone may actually
> WANT to be "in charge" of the club...
>
> Please keep practicing your kata in preparation for the
> demonstrations. I should be able to be there just a little
> early to help set up. I may not be able to stay to the
> end, because I need to deal with getting my kids to my
> house for the night. But I'll be there until as late as
> I can manage. I can bring the Abbotts' old canopy thing
> to put over the table (Josh is bringing one, I believe).
> I will try to bring a few other things as well. It will
> be fun.
>
> Gotta run. Please keep spreading the word about the club
> to anyone you know at UCSC.
> Thanks,
> Jon Keeling
>

please remember- in almost all past years the festival starts out warm, gets
hot, and then the fog rolls in and it gets cold.  sunscreen canopy jacket. and
hamster.

jon willson


--- On Thu, 9/18/08, Kyle Abbott <fiddlefella@...> wrote:

> From: Kyle Abbott <fiddlefella@...>
> Subject: [UCSCShotokan] Re: Fall Festival, Sep 23
> To: UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 7:21 AM
> -I think that that the opinion of whoever is the most
> qualified to
> lead the weekday classes should be given the most
> weight....... I
> think that the day and time is most important.-
>
> Ok, keeping your answer in mind, it still begs the
> question, in your
> opinion, you, who have lead classes for years at UCSC,
> Later sat,
> later-week early-week. Which do you think will have better
> turnout and
> attendance?
>
> -I could only make it on Saturday afternoons or Sundays
> Since, in the beginning, we're just gonna have one
> class per week, it
> would seem that Sat afternoon would be the best day.
> However, it *is*
> Saturday afternoon. Do you think students be sober that
> late in the
> weekend?
>
> --- In UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Keeling
> (JKASV)" <Jon@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Kyle Abbott wrote:
> >
> > > which day
> > > do you think would have better student
> participation: having a later
> > > class on Saturday, an earlier weekday class in a
> good room, or a later
> > > weekday class in the racquetball court?
> >
> > I think that that the opinion of whoever is the most
> qualified to
> > lead the weekday classes should be given the most
> weight.  At this
> > point, that may be the Abbott brothers.  But there is
> a chance
> > that someone else might come along that has a shodan
> from elsewhere,
> > or Josh may be available(?)...
> >
> > As for the weekends, I could only make it on Saturday
> afternoons
> > or Sundays.  That would be once or twice each month,
> depending
> > on my schedule.  It has been suggested that these
> weekend classes
> > might occur just on the days I (or another black belt)
> can make it.
> >
> > It is nice having a larger room.  But I was actually
> brought up
> > training in racquetball courts for the first 3 years
> of my
> > training (going back to 1982, before some of you were
> born...).
> > We often had more than a dozen people in class and it
> didn't
> > seem like it was such a tight squeeze.  I think that
> the day
> > and time is most important.
> >
> > >
> > > --- In UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com, Alisa Neeman
> <aneeman@> wrote:
> > >
> > >>I just talked with Mark. Here's the deal:
> > >>
> > >>His main concern is whether there will be
> enough interest; much
> > >> hinges on
> > >>the number of names/emails you can get at the
> fall festival (and
> > >>ultimately how many UC students sign the
> liability waiver as
> > >>participants. As I recall the minimum number
> is 8 liability
> signatories
> > >>to be recognized by OPERS as a viable student
> club).
> >
> > There are 42 members on this YahooGroup alone. All we
> need
> > is 1/5 of that #.  I am sure that we can get plenty of
> > names from the fall festival.  The question is How
> many
> > would actually sign the liability waiver?  I suggest
> > having copies of that waiver at the festival.  It
> can't
> > hurt...
> >
> > BTW, I just taught my first 4-6 graders' class
> today.  I
> > will be teaching 2-3 graders on Friday.  I am not
> allowing
> > in those below 2nd grade, or else I would have had
> twice
> > as many people sign up.  Sure, these little kids are
> > different than university students.  But if I can get
> > 30 people out of 350 to attend my classes, I would
> > think that out of 15,000+ at UCSC, enough to form the
> > club should be within the realm of possibilities...
> >
> > >>
> > >>Assuming enough participants, here's room
> possibilities:
> > >>
> > >>Weeknights 4:30-10pm are fully booked except
> for racquetball courts.
> > >>Daytime is possible.
> > >>
> > >>Saturdays after 2:30pm are possible.
> > >>
> > >>Mark also wanted to know who is in charge.
> That person is not me, but
> > >>again, I am willing to do some liason work. So
> Kyle, or Keeling
> > >>sensei or
> > >>someone needs to answer that.
> > >
> >
> > Being that this is a university club, the responsible
> person must
> > be a student of faculty, at least officially...Someone
> not
> > directly connected to the university can fill in
> forms, coordinate
> > things with OPERS, teach... But there must be club
> officers who
> > "officially" make the decisions.  These
> officers can be decided
> > on after we get a list together. Who knows...Someone
> may actually
> > WANT to be "in charge" of the club...
> >
> > Please keep practicing your kata in preparation for
> the
> > demonstrations.  I should be able to be there just a
> little
> > early to help set up. I may not be able to stay to the
> > end, because I need to deal with getting my kids to my
> > house for the night. But I'll be there until as
> late as
> > I can manage.  I can bring the Abbotts' old canopy
> thing
> > to put over the table (Josh is bringing one, I
> believe).
> > I will try to bring a few other things as well.  It
> will
> > be fun.
> >
> > Gotta run.  Please keep spreading the word about the
> club
> > to anyone you know at UCSC.
> > Thanks,
> > Jon Keeling
> >

-I think that that the opinion of whoever is the most qualified to
lead the weekday classes should be given the most weight....... I
think that the day and time is most important.-

Ok, keeping your answer in mind, it still begs the question, in your
opinion, you, who have lead classes for years at UCSC, Later sat,
later-week early-week. Which do you think will have better turnout and
attendance?

-I could only make it on Saturday afternoons or Sundays
Since, in the beginning, we're just gonna have one class per week, it
would seem that Sat afternoon would be the best day. However, it *is*
Saturday afternoon. Do you think students be sober that late in the
weekend?

--- In UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Keeling (JKASV)" <Jon@...>
wrote:
>
> Kyle Abbott wrote:
>
> > which day
> > do you think would have better student participation: having a later
> > class on Saturday, an earlier weekday class in a good room, or a later
> > weekday class in the racquetball court?
>
> I think that that the opinion of whoever is the most qualified to
> lead the weekday classes should be given the most weight.  At this
> point, that may be the Abbott brothers.  But there is a chance
> that someone else might come along that has a shodan from elsewhere,
> or Josh may be available(?)...
>
> As for the weekends, I could only make it on Saturday afternoons
> or Sundays.  That would be once or twice each month, depending
> on my schedule.  It has been suggested that these weekend classes
> might occur just on the days I (or another black belt) can make it.
>
> It is nice having a larger room.  But I was actually brought up
> training in racquetball courts for the first 3 years of my
> training (going back to 1982, before some of you were born...).
> We often had more than a dozen people in class and it didn't
> seem like it was such a tight squeeze.  I think that the day
> and time is most important.
>
> >
> > --- In UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com, Alisa Neeman <aneeman@> wrote:
> >
> >>I just talked with Mark. Here's the deal:
> >>
> >>His main concern is whether there will be enough interest; much
> >> hinges on
> >>the number of names/emails you can get at the fall festival (and
> >>ultimately how many UC students sign the liability waiver as
> >>participants. As I recall the minimum number is 8 liability
signatories
> >>to be recognized by OPERS as a viable student club).
>
> There are 42 members on this YahooGroup alone. All we need
> is 1/5 of that #.  I am sure that we can get plenty of
> names from the fall festival.  The question is How many
> would actually sign the liability waiver?  I suggest
> having copies of that waiver at the festival.  It can't
> hurt...
>
> BTW, I just taught my first 4-6 graders' class today.  I
> will be teaching 2-3 graders on Friday.  I am not allowing
> in those below 2nd grade, or else I would have had twice
> as many people sign up.  Sure, these little kids are
> different than university students.  But if I can get
> 30 people out of 350 to attend my classes, I would
> think that out of 15,000+ at UCSC, enough to form the
> club should be within the realm of possibilities...
>
> >>
> >>Assuming enough participants, here's room possibilities:
> >>
> >>Weeknights 4:30-10pm are fully booked except for racquetball courts.
> >>Daytime is possible.
> >>
> >>Saturdays after 2:30pm are possible.
> >>
> >>Mark also wanted to know who is in charge. That person is not me, but
> >>again, I am willing to do some liason work. So Kyle, or Keeling
> >>sensei or
> >>someone needs to answer that.
> >
>
> Being that this is a university club, the responsible person must
> be a student of faculty, at least officially...Someone not
> directly connected to the university can fill in forms, coordinate
> things with OPERS, teach... But there must be club officers who
> "officially" make the decisions.  These officers can be decided
> on after we get a list together. Who knows...Someone may actually
> WANT to be "in charge" of the club...
>
> Please keep practicing your kata in preparation for the
> demonstrations.  I should be able to be there just a little
> early to help set up. I may not be able to stay to the
> end, because I need to deal with getting my kids to my
> house for the night. But I'll be there until as late as
> I can manage.  I can bring the Abbotts' old canopy thing
> to put over the table (Josh is bringing one, I believe).
> I will try to bring a few other things as well.  It will
> be fun.
>
> Gotta run.  Please keep spreading the word about the club
> to anyone you know at UCSC.
> Thanks,
> Jon Keeling
>

Kyle Abbott wrote:

> which day
> do you think would have better student participation: having a later
> class on Saturday, an earlier weekday class in a good room, or a later
> weekday class in the racquetball court?

I think that that the opinion of whoever is the most qualified to
lead the weekday classes should be given the most weight.  At this
point, that may be the Abbott brothers.  But there is a chance
that someone else might come along that has a shodan from elsewhere,
or Josh may be available(?)...

As for the weekends, I could only make it on Saturday afternoons
or Sundays.  That would be once or twice each month, depending
on my schedule.  It has been suggested that these weekend classes
might occur just on the days I (or another black belt) can make it.

It is nice having a larger room.  But I was actually brought up
training in racquetball courts for the first 3 years of my
training (going back to 1982, before some of you were born...).
We often had more than a dozen people in class and it didn't
seem like it was such a tight squeeze.  I think that the day
and time is most important.

>
> --- In UCSCShotokan@yahoogroups.com, Alisa Neeman <aneeman@...> wrote:
>
>>I just talked with Mark. Here's the deal:
>>
>>His main concern is whether there will be enough interest; much
>> hinges on
>>the number of names/emails you can get at the fall festival (and
>>ultimately how many UC students sign the liability waiver as
>>participants. As I recall the minimum number is 8 liability signatories
>>to be recognized by OPERS as a viable student club).

There are 42 members on this YahooGroup alone. All we need
is 1/5 of that #.  I am sure that we can get plenty of
names from the fall festival.  The question is How many
would actually sign the liability waiver?  I suggest
having copies of that waiver at the festival.  It can't
hurt...

BTW, I just taught my first 4-6 graders' class today.  I
will be teaching 2-3 graders on Friday.  I am not allowing
in those below 2nd grade, or else I would have had twice
as many people sign up.  Sure, these little kids are
different than university students.  But if I can get
30 people out of 350 to attend my classes, I would
think that out of 15,000+ at UCSC, enough to form the
club should be within the realm of possibilities...

>>
>>Assuming enough participants, here's room possibilities:
>>
>>Weeknights 4:30-10pm are fully booked except for racquetball courts.
>>Daytime is possible.
>>
>>Saturdays after 2:30pm are possible.
>>
>>Mark also wanted to know who is in charge. That person is not me, but
>>again, I am willing to do some liason work. So Kyle, or Keeling
>>sensei or
>>someone needs to answer that.
>

Being that this is a university club, the responsible person must
be a student of faculty, at least officially...Someone not
directly connected to the university can fill in forms, coordinate
things with OPERS, teach... But there must be club officers who
"officially" make the decisions.  These officers can be decided
on after we get a list together. Who knows...Someone may actually
WANT to be "in charge" of the club...

Please keep practicing your kata in preparation for the
demonstrations.  I should be able to be there just a little
early to help set up. I may not be able to stay to the
end, because I need to deal with getting my kids to my
house for the night. But I'll be there until as late as
I can manage.  I can bring the Abbotts' old canopy thing
to put over the table (Josh is bringing one, I believe).
I will try to bring a few other things as well.  It will
be fun.

Gotta run.  Please keep spreading the word about the club
to anyone you know at UCSC.
Thanks,
Jon Keeling