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Reply | Forward Message #1258 of 1822 |
Re: [TylerBaseball] Colts release Steve Maddock

Not that I don't agree, but the Central League was only once. The
Texas -Louisiana League was the first, and as I had to explain to so many
potential supporters, it's two different groups.
So we were actually screwed by two different organizations.
May I throw gasoline onto this fire???

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cynde Frizzell" <cyndeddie@...>
To: <TylerBaseball@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [TylerBaseball] Colts release Steve Maddock


> I'm afraid I agree with Tom...Steve was fun to watch, but I think Sean
would
> be a better choice as manager. That said, do we REALLY want to have any
> dealings with the Central League?? They've already screwed us over TWICE.
>
> Cynde
>
>
> >From: "B R E N T" <tyler_roughnecks@...>
> >Reply-To: TylerBaseball@yahoogroups.com
> >To: TylerBaseball@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [TylerBaseball] Colts release Steve Maddock
> >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 08:26:59 -0500
> >
> >Our Fall/Winter project is to create an ownership group for a Central
> >League
> >franchise & HIRE STEVE MADDOCK AS OUR MANAGER!
> >
> >:)
> >Brent
> >
> >========================
> >Colts won't renew manager's contract
> >
> >Maddock released after two seasons, search for replacement to begin
'almost
> >immediately'
> >
> >By JEFF MCDONALD, San Angelo Standard-Time Staff Writer
> >September 9, 2003
> >
> >When Steve Maddock left the manager's office at Foster Field following
the
> >San Angelo Colts' final game of the season, he had an inkling that he
might
> >be leaving it for the last time.
> >He'd already asked his bosses if his contract was going to be renewed.
They
> >didn't give him a firm answer.
> >On Monday, less than two weeks after packing up his things and heading
home
> >to a state of uncomfortable limbo in Arlington, Maddock wondered again
> >whether he still had a job in San Angelo.
> >So he picked up a phone and called the Colts' front office.
> >This time, the powers-that-be gave him an answer. It wasn't what he
wanted
> >to hear.
> >''I had a feeling that this was coming,'' Maddock said, reacting to the
> >news
> >that the Colts would not be renewing his contract when it expires at the
> >end
> >of the month. ''If they had wanted me back, they would have said
something
> >before now.''
> >In Maddock's case, no news was bad news.
> >He has essentially been fired after a 2003 season in which the Colts
failed
> >to make the playoffs for the first time ever, and a year after the team
won
> >its first-ever Central Baseball League championship.
> >Maddock, who was 103-97 in two seasons with San Angelo, was the second
> >manager in club history. The Colts will set out looking for their third
> >manager in five years, ''almost immediately,'' Executive General Manager
> >Harlan Bruha said.
> >He said he hopes to have a new manager in place by the end of December.
> >''It just wasn't a good year; it was frustrating for me, it was
frustrating
> >for the fans, it was frustrating for everybody,'' said Bruha, who
> >ultimately
> >pulled the trigger on Maddock's ouster. ''How can we overcome that
> >frustration if we don't make a change? I think we can solve that
> >frustration
> >by bringing in someone new with fresh ideas.''
> >Maddock does not disagree that the season was frustrating.
> >He just figured that the 2002 CBL championship campaign would have banked
> >him more goodwill than he could exhaust with one lackluster season.
> >He figured he'd earned the benefit of the doubt.
> >''I would have thought so,'' he said. ''I got my ring, and I'm happy with
> >that. I just would have thought it would have bought me more time.''
> >Maddock's time ran out, apparently, during a 2003 season in which the
club
> >led the league in both hitting and errors - and ranked last in pitching -
> >and missed the postseason.
> >''Winning is everything,'' Bruha said. ''I just didn't feel like we got
the
> >performance out of our ball club for the quality of players that we
had.''
> >There were other grievances that led to the decision, Bruha said.
> >Maddock made limitless personnel moves during his tenure, and the roster
> >was
> >almost always in a state of flux.
> >When he took over prior to the 2002 campaign, he kept only one player
from
> >the 2001 team. That player, Franklin Taveras, was waived before the
> >all-star
> >break.
> >This year, he kept just one player from the 2002 championship squad.
> >Gilbert
> >Landestoy, too, was waived before the all-star break.
> >This year, the constant tinkering never paid off. In one instance, the
> >Colts
> >released a pitcher - Jake Carney - who went on to be the league's pitcher
> >of
> >the month of August for Coastal Bend.
> >Bruha, who added that he supported the decision to release Carney, cited
> >that as one example of a Maddock mistake.
> >''Steve's greatest strength was the way he found players; he was a master
> >at
> >it,'' Bruha said. ''But sometimes it was too much. Sometimes, that was a
> >strength and a weakness.''
> >Maddock defended the way he managed the team's roster.
> >''I stand by the way I did things,'' he said. ''The first year (in 2002),
> >if
> >we didn't make all the changes we made, we wouldn't have won a
> >championship.''
> >Bruha agreed.
> >Still, when the Colts go looking for their newest manager they'll be
> >looking
> >for someone who wants to build on the nucleus of players who are already
> >here, he said.
> >Bruha said two of the players he expects to be a part of that nucleus are
> >veteran outfielders Buck McNabb and Juan Rocha, who were all-stars for
the
> >Colts last year. McNabb was named the CBL's Player of the Year, the first
> >Colt ever to win that honor.
> >The relationship between Maddock and McNabb was icy near the end of the
> >season. During a late-season game against Edinburg, McNabb was pulled
from
> >the game and sent to the clubhouse after a confrontation with the
manager.
> >Bruha did not say his relationship with McNabb was a reason behind the
> >decision to part ways with Maddock.
> >''I just think a different style of leadership in the clubhouse and on
the
> >field might help us get back to the playoffs,'' Bruha said.
> >Maddock, meanwhile, is out looking for another job.
> >He says he's already talked to at least four different teams, some of
which
> >are in the CBL and some aren't. Alexandria, Coastal Bend and Ozark are
the
> >three other CBL teams with managerial vacancies.
> >Maddock, it turns out, had a little bit of a head start in the race to
find
> >a new employer.
> >''I'd already been looking around, just in case (the Colts) didn't want
me
> >back,'' he said. ''Unfortunately, I was right.''
> >
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Our Fall/Winter project is to create an ownership group for a Central League franchise & HIRE STEVE MADDOCK AS OUR MANAGER! ... Brent ======================== ...
B R E N T
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Sep 18, 2003
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I'm sorry but this may be an unwanted dissenting opinion. I like Steve Maddock as a person and as a fiery competitor. But I have not been a fan of his...
Tom Faulkenbury
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Sep 18, 2003
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I'm afraid I agree with Tom...Steve was fun to watch, but I think Sean would be a better choice as manager. That said, do we REALLY want to have any dealings...
Cynde Frizzell
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Sep 19, 2003
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I'm afraid I agree with Tom. Steve was fun to watch, but I think Sean would be a better choice as manager. That said, do we REALLY want dealings with the...
Cynde Frizzell
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Sep 19, 2003
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Not that I don't agree, but the Central League was only once. The Texas -Louisiana League was the first, and as I had to explain to so many potential...
Blu Monday
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Sep 20, 2003
12:54 am

Tom, I don’t totally disagree with you -- multiple roster changes DO make for an unstable clubhouse, but you have to admit that two of the better players on ...
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Sep 20, 2003
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How about MadDog just for the entertainment???...
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Sep 20, 2003
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Maddodg for pitching coach? Are you serious? Unless his focus was completely off kilter, the Colts ERA speaks for itself. We never found and kept 4...
djay2tx
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Sep 23, 2003
6:10 pm

And I just thought I was the only one who wasn't keen on Maddock's management style. And what can be elaborated on regarding Colts' clubhouse problems? I did...
Tom Faulkenbury
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Sep 23, 2003
7:28 pm

I'll give Steve credit for this much -- he was always unwilling (to my knowledge) to discuss clubhouse issues OUTSIDE the clubhouse. He wouldn't elaborate for...
djay2tx
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Sep 23, 2003
10:37 pm

... Tom -- I think you hit the proverbial hammer on the nail! I'll admit that I own a pair of those glasses! ... Brent ...
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Sep 24, 2003
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... I wasn't really serious when I said that -- I just throw it out there haphazardly.... _________________________________________________________________ Get...
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Sep 24, 2003
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I applaud Brent's "haphazard" suggestion. At least it's got us chatting!...
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Sep 24, 2003
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I'll say ANYTHING to receive e-mail with [TylerBaseball] in the subject line! ... Brent ... _________________________________________________________________ ...
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Sep 25, 2003
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Yes, but what can we DO to get a team of some sort here?? We're all poor, and being just peons, nobody with money is going to listen to what WE want. And the...
Cynde Frizzell
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Sep 25, 2003
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Why not contact the Bob Lipp group trying to revamp the Az/MExico league and have them consider Tyler to the new SWL. Info is at swlbaseball.com and they are...
djay2tx
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Sep 25, 2003
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This has looked like a washout from day one. Tyler baseball supporters would be better off trying to form a regional league with teams in Tyler, Longview,...
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Sep 25, 2003
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I have just sent them an email, suggesting they round out the eastern part of their league with a team in Tyler. ... From: "djay2tx" <djay2tx@...> To:...
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... Bring back the East Texas League! _________________________________________________________________ Get McAfee virus scanning and cleaning of incoming...
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I wish there was some way that we could join the Central League -- fill in that gap on I-20's west side. ...
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