Hey Paul,

I hope we can cook up a trip to Baldy soon. When the last one was
postponed I decided to go anyway but I flaked out on myself.

There has also been talk of getting a group up to Big Bear. That
woudl be awesome.

When do you train on weekends? If you are in the CDM area we could
easily get a group together. I tend to run in afternoons or evenings
on weekends, I'm weird like that but most others meet in the morning.
There are some fantastic trails in Laguna Beach as you may know. I
did one today.

Dave


--- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com, skydvrusn@... wrote:
>
> 8:45 not speedy???? Good thing i didn't bring up my 10 min/mile as
my
> marathon pace......
>
> I too am guilty of not participating. Mary told me about your club
and i
> signed up. I live in Riverside and train in the Corona Del Mar area
on weekends.
> I DO want to particpate in your Mt. Baldy runs and have been
following the
> chatter back and forth closely. I have been traveling a lot for
work lately and
>  not been able to get out there. Hotel treadmills aint the same. I
am doing
> Mt.  Disappointment Ultra on Aug 9th and need the trail
time.........Looking
> forward  to meeting everyone.
>
> Paul
>
>
> In a message dated 7/2/2008 12:15:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> michael_turko@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Hello Jessica,
> As my email address indicates.. my name is Mike.  I signed up
recently.  I
> guess I might fall into a looky-loo status...   but I am serious
about a new
> running experience..I
> I have run a couple marathons and several half and shorter
events.  I'm not
> speedy (8:45 or so on paved trails for  general/maintenance
running).
> I live in Corona, but work in Long Beach and run in OC frequently
(weekends
> too).
> I will definitely be participating!  Do I need trail  shoes?
>
> --- On Wed, 7/2/08, Jessica  <jessica@...> wrote:
>
> From:  Jessica <jessica@...>
> Subject: [TheOCTR] OCTR  Membership Update
> To: TheOCTR@yahoogroupsTo:
> Date:  Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 10:26 AM
>
>
>
> Hey everyone,
>
> I wanted to send out this note on OCTR  membership. As you know,
OCTR
> membership is currently free. Because  of this, we have many people
> who've probably joined this site &  group just to "check things
out".
> While that's fine for a while, I  do want to encourage
participation in
> the group and group  runs.
>
> To some, it may be intimidating to come out to a trail  run or group
> run for the first time. I assure you that we are a  very
> un-intimidating group and don't worry much about distance,  speed,
> time, etc. We make every effort to accommodate runners of  all
types,
> speeds, etc.
>
> We'll also be having some type of  social event in the next month or
> two which will give people  another chance to come out and meet
other
> members of the group and  feel more comfortable running with us.
>
> In order to help make  this an active group, I'm asking a couple
things:
>
> First - Go  to the database section in the Yahoo Group and enter in
at
> least  your name and phone number + any other info you want to
disclose
> (only 13 people have done this so far). Please do this by  July 15
as
> we'll be putting together a phone contact  list.
>
> Second - I'm requiring all members to participate in a  group run at
> least once every quarter (90 days / 3 months). Of  course there are
> exceptions in the case of injuries, etc.
>
> Third - New members need to attend a run within 60 days / 2  months
of
> joining. (this starts July 1 for all currently new  members who have
> not yet come to a run).
>
> I don't want to bog  down the club with rules but I DO want to
> encourage group  participation and discourage the looky-loos who
just
> want to see  what's going on. We have 85 runners signed up for this
> group but  I've only seen about 15-20 of you out at various runs. No
> need to  hide :)
>
> Hope to see you on the trail  soon!
> Jessica
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I had a late afternoon meeting which ran overtime. Hope everyone had
fun. I ended up running solo in Aliso Creek out of Top of the World
this evening. I think I saw Tom and Jessica's footprints on the Mathes
trail!

Dave

Jessica,

I would be glad to handle some training runs for the Bulldog course.
I know it quite well and have run it on my own probably 25 times.  I
have an ultrarunning friend who is considerably faster than me that
could lead a faster group and I could introduce anyone that wants to
familiarize himself/herself to the course at a much slower pace.  If
anyone would like to try it out, I am glad to do it informally one-on-
one or host a group.

As far as my Sunday runs, they might be a bit out of the way for
everyone, but I will add them on Sundays where I don't see something
planned for the group in OC.

Thanks again and I sure wish you a speedy recovery from chest pain
issues.

Best,
Matt


--- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com, "Jessica" <jessica@...> wrote:
>
> Matt,
> I think it would be great if you posted some runs up your way.
> Especially if the long runs are on Sundays since our long runs are
> typically on Saturdays.  I don't see a problem with that and I'm
sure
> some of us would love to come up there once in a while for a change
of
> scenery.  maybe you can post a bulldog training run for us :)
> Jessica
>
> --- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com, "babbaum" <babbaum@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jessica,
> >
> > It is great to see the response from the group regarding
> > involvement.  I had a question for you.  As someone was out of
the
> > area that was kindly invited to join in on some of your runs,
would
> > you have any issues with me posting some of the runs that I try
to do
> > in areas that are out of OC.  I don't want to interfere with the
> > mission of the club and I have great respect for all of the hard
work
> > you have put into it over the last few years.  If I post my runs,
I
> > would make sure that it did not pose a conflict.  I will also
plan on
> > taking you up on your invitation of joining you all on one of
your
> > runs in the near future.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Matt
> >
> > P.S.
> >
> > To the group: I am a trailrunner from the ventura county area.
> > Jessica and I have known each other a couple of years and have
run
> > together on occasion and have run some of the same races (she is
> > considerably faster than me). I typically run in the trails of
the
> > Santa Monica Mtns, but will venture out into the Los Padres and
San
> > Gabriels. Jessica has been kind enough to inivte me to join your
> > group so that I can train for some of my races with you.  I am
very
> > slow, usually one of the last people to cross the finish line.
If it
> > is okay with Jessica, I will post some of my long training runs
> > (usually on Sundays) and if someone is interested in tolerating a
> > slow poke on some tough terrain, then I am your man.  If I see
that
> > there is something planned for a Sunday, then I will not post
mine to
> > prevent any conflict. I want to respect your OC trail group.
> >
> >
> > --- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com, "Jessica" <jessica@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sounds great!  The more run options on the calendar the
better :)
> > >
> > > FYI on run posting etiquette - Anyone can post a run on our
> > calendar.
> > >  Please try to not post a run at the same time and similar
distance
> > as
> > > another current run.  Exceptions would be a north county run
and
> > south
> > > county run at the same time are okay even if they are of a
similar
> > > distance.  A run in a similar area that is 20 miles can be
posted at
> > > the same time as a 5 mile run.  An example to avoid would be a
> > 7:30AM
> > > 5 mile run in Aliso on the same day as a 7:00AM 6 mile run in
El
> > Moro.
> > >  We just want to try and avoid conflicts so more of us can run
> > > together.  :)
> > >
> > > thanks!
> > > Jessica
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com, Mary Rosas <maryruns2it@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Jessica
> > > > For now I will post Thurs. running at Fullerton trails with an
> > > option of either 6 or 8. The hill version is 12-14 and we would
have
> > > to start right at 6:00.  I am starting tomorrow doing 8. Start
time
> > > 6:30 at Laguna Lake parking lot.NIick,my number is 562-619-5843.
> > > > M
> > > >
> > > > --- On Wed, 7/2/08, Jessica <jessica@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: Jessica <jessica@>
> > > > Subject: [TheOCTR] Re: north OC RUN
> > > > To: TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 2:31 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mary,
> > > > If you both filled out the info in the database you'd have
each
> > others
> > > > numbers ;)
> > > >
> > > > Actually I would suggest one of you posting a weekly (or so)
> > Fullerton
> > > > run on our Yahoo Group Calendar. Posting it there gives
others a
> > > > chance to join you guys as well. If you do it every week I'm
sure
> > > > more people will hop on as time goes by.
> > > >
> > > > Jessica
> > > >
> > > > --- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups .com, Mary Rosas
<maryruns2it@ ...>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Nick,
> > > > > Sounds good!  I really want someone to run trails with. I
> > usually do
> > > > track running Tues. and Thurs. but need to get in some trails
to
> > > > strengthen my ankle.  Laguna Lake is where I start out at the
> > > > Fullerton Trails.  Should we exchange numbers?
> > > > > M
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Wed, 7/2/08, nick collins <nick_collins_ ca@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: nick collins <nick_collins_ ca@>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [TheOCTR] Re: north OC RUN
> > > > > To: TheOCTR@yahoogroups .com
> > > > > Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 1:47 PM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That's great.....fullerton is full of trails from what I can
> > > > tell......7- 8 miles would be a great run for me, a longer
run
> > but a
> > > > run i can do. Anyday for me is great to great....anytime
after 6
> > PM
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Wed, 7/2/08, healthyforlife1959 <healthyforlife1959 @
> > > > yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: healthyforlife1959 <healthyforlife1959 @ yahoo.com>
> > > > > Subject: [TheOCTR] Re: north OC RUN
> > > > > To: TheOCTR@yahoogroups .com
> > > > > Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 1:18 PM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > There must be some good trails in that area. I'll do some
> > research on
> > > > > that. Maybe we could meet somewhere off the 91 fwy or in
the
> > Carbon
> > > > > Canyon area some evening. I know there are hills around
> > Fullerton
> > > > > too. I'll see what I can find...
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone from south county want to carpool?
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups .com, nick collins
<nick_collins_
> > ca@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I live in Fullerton off Yorba Linda......
> > > > > > Days and time wise, I'm open........ I'm open to location
as
> > well,
> > > > > just really can't do the South O.C runs during the week.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- On Wed, 7/2/08, nick collins <nick_collins_ ca@>
wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: nick collins <nick_collins_ ca@>
> > > > > > Subject: [TheOCTR] north OC RUN
> > > > > > To: TheOCTR@yahoogroups .com
> > > > > > Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 11:30 AM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was hoping to hook up with any runners in North OC for
a
> > run
> > > > > either really early in the morning or in the evening....I
am
> > looking
> > > > > for good 5-6 mile runs with anyone who wants to run,  no
matter
> > the
> > > > > pace......
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Matt,
I think it would be great if you posted some runs up your way.
Especially if the long runs are on Sundays since our long runs are
typically on Saturdays.  I don't see a problem with that and I'm sure
some of us would love to come up there once in a while for a change of
scenery.  maybe you can post a bulldog training run for us :)
Jessica

--- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com, "babbaum" <babbaum@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Jessica,
>
> It is great to see the response from the group regarding
> involvement.  I had a question for you.  As someone was out of the
> area that was kindly invited to join in on some of your runs, would
> you have any issues with me posting some of the runs that I try to do
> in areas that are out of OC.  I don't want to interfere with the
> mission of the club and I have great respect for all of the hard work
> you have put into it over the last few years.  If I post my runs, I
> would make sure that it did not pose a conflict.  I will also plan on
> taking you up on your invitation of joining you all on one of your
> runs in the near future.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
>
> P.S.
>
> To the group: I am a trailrunner from the ventura county area.
> Jessica and I have known each other a couple of years and have run
> together on occasion and have run some of the same races (she is
> considerably faster than me). I typically run in the trails of the
> Santa Monica Mtns, but will venture out into the Los Padres and San
> Gabriels. Jessica has been kind enough to inivte me to join your
> group so that I can train for some of my races with you.  I am very
> slow, usually one of the last people to cross the finish line.  If it
> is okay with Jessica, I will post some of my long training runs
> (usually on Sundays) and if someone is interested in tolerating a
> slow poke on some tough terrain, then I am your man.  If I see that
> there is something planned for a Sunday, then I will not post mine to
> prevent any conflict. I want to respect your OC trail group.
>
>
> --- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com, "Jessica" <jessica@> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds great!  The more run options on the calendar the better :)
> >
> > FYI on run posting etiquette - Anyone can post a run on our
> calendar.
> >  Please try to not post a run at the same time and similar distance
> as
> > another current run.  Exceptions would be a north county run and
> south
> > county run at the same time are okay even if they are of a similar
> > distance.  A run in a similar area that is 20 miles can be posted at
> > the same time as a 5 mile run.  An example to avoid would be a
> 7:30AM
> > 5 mile run in Aliso on the same day as a 7:00AM 6 mile run in El
> Moro.
> >  We just want to try and avoid conflicts so more of us can run
> > together.  :)
> >
> > thanks!
> > Jessica
> >
> >
> > --- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com, Mary Rosas <maryruns2it@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Jessica
> > > For now I will post Thurs. running at Fullerton trails with an
> > option of either 6 or 8. The hill version is 12-14 and we would have
> > to start right at 6:00.  I am starting tomorrow doing 8. Start time
> > 6:30 at Laguna Lake parking lot.NIick,my number is 562-619-5843.
> > > M
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 7/2/08, Jessica <jessica@> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Jessica <jessica@>
> > > Subject: [TheOCTR] Re: north OC RUN
> > > To: TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 2:31 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mary,
> > > If you both filled out the info in the database you'd have each
> others
> > > numbers ;)
> > >
> > > Actually I would suggest one of you posting a weekly (or so)
> Fullerton
> > > run on our Yahoo Group Calendar. Posting it there gives others a
> > > chance to join you guys as well. If you do it every week I'm sure
> > > more people will hop on as time goes by.
> > >
> > > Jessica
> > >
> > > --- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups .com, Mary Rosas <maryruns2it@ ...>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Nick,
> > > > Sounds good!  I really want someone to run trails with. I
> usually do
> > > track running Tues. and Thurs. but need to get in some trails to
> > > strengthen my ankle.  Laguna Lake is where I start out at the
> > > Fullerton Trails.  Should we exchange numbers?
> > > > M
> > > >
> > > > --- On Wed, 7/2/08, nick collins <nick_collins_ ca@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: nick collins <nick_collins_ ca@>
> > > > Subject: Re: [TheOCTR] Re: north OC RUN
> > > > To: TheOCTR@yahoogroups .com
> > > > Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 1:47 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That's great.....fullerton is full of trails from what I can
> > > tell......7- 8 miles would be a great run for me, a longer run
> but a
> > > run i can do. Anyday for me is great to great....anytime after 6
> PM
> > > >
> > > > --- On Wed, 7/2/08, healthyforlife1959 <healthyforlife1959 @
> > > yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: healthyforlife1959 <healthyforlife1959 @ yahoo.com>
> > > > Subject: [TheOCTR] Re: north OC RUN
> > > > To: TheOCTR@yahoogroups .com
> > > > Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 1:18 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There must be some good trails in that area. I'll do some
> research on
> > > > that. Maybe we could meet somewhere off the 91 fwy or in the
> Carbon
> > > > Canyon area some evening. I know there are hills around
> Fullerton
> > > > too. I'll see what I can find...
> > > >
> > > > Anyone from south county want to carpool?
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > --- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups .com, nick collins <nick_collins_
> ca@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I live in Fullerton off Yorba Linda......
> > > > > Days and time wise, I'm open........ I'm open to location as
> well,
> > > > just really can't do the South O.C runs during the week.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Wed, 7/2/08, nick collins <nick_collins_ ca@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: nick collins <nick_collins_ ca@>
> > > > > Subject: [TheOCTR] north OC RUN
> > > > > To: TheOCTR@yahoogroups .com
> > > > > Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 11:30 AM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I was hoping to hook up with any runners in North OC for a
> run
> > > > either really early in the morning or in the evening....I am
> looking
> > > > for good 5-6 mile runs with anyone who wants to run,  no matter
> the
> > > > pace......
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Hi Jessica,

It is great to see the response from the group regarding
involvement.  I had a question for you.  As someone was out of the
area that was kindly invited to join in on some of your runs, would
you have any issues with me posting some of the runs that I try to do
in areas that are out of OC.  I don't want to interfere with the
mission of the club and I have great respect for all of the hard work
you have put into it over the last few years.  If I post my runs, I
would make sure that it did not pose a conflict.  I will also plan on
taking you up on your invitation of joining you all on one of your
runs in the near future.

Thanks,
Matt

P.S.

To the group: I am a trailrunner from the ventura county area.
Jessica and I have known each other a couple of years and have run
together on occasion and have run some of the same races (she is
considerably faster than me). I typically run in the trails of the
Santa Monica Mtns, but will venture out into the Los Padres and San
Gabriels. Jessica has been kind enough to inivte me to join your
group so that I can train for some of my races with you.  I am very
slow, usually one of the last people to cross the finish line.  If it
is okay with Jessica, I will post some of my long training runs
(usually on Sundays) and if someone is interested in tolerating a
slow poke on some tough terrain, then I am your man.  If I see that
there is something planned for a Sunday, then I will not post mine to
prevent any conflict. I want to respect your OC trail group.


--- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com, "Jessica" <jessica@...> wrote:
>
> Sounds great!  The more run options on the calendar the better :)
>
> FYI on run posting etiquette - Anyone can post a run on our
calendar.
>  Please try to not post a run at the same time and similar distance
as
> another current run.  Exceptions would be a north county run and
south
> county run at the same time are okay even if they are of a similar
> distance.  A run in a similar area that is 20 miles can be posted at
> the same time as a 5 mile run.  An example to avoid would be a
7:30AM
> 5 mile run in Aliso on the same day as a 7:00AM 6 mile run in El
Moro.
>  We just want to try and avoid conflicts so more of us can run
> together.  :)
>
> thanks!
> Jessica
>
>
> --- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com, Mary Rosas <maryruns2it@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Jessica
> > For now I will post Thurs. running at Fullerton trails with an
> option of either 6 or 8. The hill version is 12-14 and we would have
> to start right at 6:00.  I am starting tomorrow doing 8. Start time
> 6:30 at Laguna Lake parking lot.NIick,my number is 562-619-5843.
> > M
> >
> > --- On Wed, 7/2/08, Jessica <jessica@> wrote:
> >
> > From: Jessica <jessica@>
> > Subject: [TheOCTR] Re: north OC RUN
> > To: TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 2:31 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mary,
> > If you both filled out the info in the database you'd have each
others
> > numbers ;)
> >
> > Actually I would suggest one of you posting a weekly (or so)
Fullerton
> > run on our Yahoo Group Calendar. Posting it there gives others a
> > chance to join you guys as well. If you do it every week I'm sure
> > more people will hop on as time goes by.
> >
> > Jessica
> >
> > --- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups .com, Mary Rosas <maryruns2it@ ...>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Nick,
> > > Sounds good!  I really want someone to run trails with. I
usually do
> > track running Tues. and Thurs. but need to get in some trails to
> > strengthen my ankle.  Laguna Lake is where I start out at the
> > Fullerton Trails.  Should we exchange numbers?
> > > M
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 7/2/08, nick collins <nick_collins_ ca@> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: nick collins <nick_collins_ ca@>
> > > Subject: Re: [TheOCTR] Re: north OC RUN
> > > To: TheOCTR@yahoogroups .com
> > > Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 1:47 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That's great.....fullerton is full of trails from what I can
> > tell......7- 8 miles would be a great run for me, a longer run
but a
> > run i can do. Anyday for me is great to great....anytime after 6
PM
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 7/2/08, healthyforlife1959 <healthyforlife1959 @
> > yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: healthyforlife1959 <healthyforlife1959 @ yahoo.com>
> > > Subject: [TheOCTR] Re: north OC RUN
> > > To: TheOCTR@yahoogroups .com
> > > Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 1:18 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > There must be some good trails in that area. I'll do some
research on
> > > that. Maybe we could meet somewhere off the 91 fwy or in the
Carbon
> > > Canyon area some evening. I know there are hills around
Fullerton
> > > too. I'll see what I can find...
> > >
> > > Anyone from south county want to carpool?
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > --- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups .com, nick collins <nick_collins_
ca@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I live in Fullerton off Yorba Linda......
> > > > Days and time wise, I'm open........ I'm open to location as
well,
> > > just really can't do the South O.C runs during the week.
> > > >
> > > > --- On Wed, 7/2/08, nick collins <nick_collins_ ca@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: nick collins <nick_collins_ ca@>
> > > > Subject: [TheOCTR] north OC RUN
> > > > To: TheOCTR@yahoogroups .com
> > > > Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 11:30 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I was hoping to hook up with any runners in North OC for a
run
> > > either really early in the morning or in the evening....I am
looking
> > > for good 5-6 mile runs with anyone who wants to run,  no matter
the
> > > pace......
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Sounds great!  The more run options on the calendar the better :)

FYI on run posting etiquette - Anyone can post a run on our calendar.
  Please try to not post a run at the same time and similar distance as
another current run.  Exceptions would be a north county run and south
county run at the same time are okay even if they are of a similar
distance.  A run in a similar area that is 20 miles can be posted at
the same time as a 5 mile run.  An example to avoid would be a 7:30AM
5 mile run in Aliso on the same day as a 7:00AM 6 mile run in El Moro.
  We just want to try and avoid conflicts so more of us can run
together.  :)

thanks!
Jessica


--- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com, Mary Rosas <maryruns2it@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Jessica
> For now I will post Thurs. running at Fullerton trails with an
option of either 6 or 8. The hill version is 12-14 and we would have
to start right at 6:00.  I am starting tomorrow doing 8. Start time
6:30 at Laguna Lake parking lot.NIick,my number is 562-619-5843.
> M
>
> --- On Wed, 7/2/08, Jessica <jessica@...> wrote:
>
> From: Jessica <jessica@...>
> Subject: [TheOCTR] Re: north OC RUN
> To: TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 2:31 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mary,
> If you both filled out the info in the database you'd have each others
> numbers ;)
>
> Actually I would suggest one of you posting a weekly (or so) Fullerton
> run on our Yahoo Group Calendar. Posting it there gives others a
> chance to join you guys as well. If you do it every week I'm sure
> more people will hop on as time goes by.
>
> Jessica
>
> --- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups .com, Mary Rosas <maryruns2it@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Nick,
> > Sounds good!  I really want someone to run trails with. I usually do
> track running Tues. and Thurs. but need to get in some trails to
> strengthen my ankle.  Laguna Lake is where I start out at the
> Fullerton Trails.  Should we exchange numbers?
> > M
> >
> > --- On Wed, 7/2/08, nick collins <nick_collins_ ca@> wrote:
> >
> > From: nick collins <nick_collins_ ca@>
> > Subject: Re: [TheOCTR] Re: north OC RUN
> > To: TheOCTR@yahoogroups .com
> > Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 1:47 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > That's great.....fullerton is full of trails from what I can
> tell......7- 8 miles would be a great run for me, a longer run but a
> run i can do. Anyday for me is great to great....anytime after 6 PM
> >
> > --- On Wed, 7/2/08, healthyforlife1959 <healthyforlife1959 @
> yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: healthyforlife1959 <healthyforlife1959 @ yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [TheOCTR] Re: north OC RUN
> > To: TheOCTR@yahoogroups .com
> > Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 1:18 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > There must be some good trails in that area. I'll do some research on
> > that. Maybe we could meet somewhere off the 91 fwy or in the Carbon
> > Canyon area some evening. I know there are hills around Fullerton
> > too. I'll see what I can find...
> >
> > Anyone from south county want to carpool?
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > --- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups .com, nick collins <nick_collins_ ca@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I live in Fullerton off Yorba Linda......
> > > Days and time wise, I'm open........ I'm open to location as well,
> > just really can't do the South O.C runs during the week.
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 7/2/08, nick collins <nick_collins_ ca@> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: nick collins <nick_collins_ ca@>
> > > Subject: [TheOCTR] north OC RUN
> > > To: TheOCTR@yahoogroups .com
> > > Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 11:30 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I was hoping to hook up with any runners in North OC for a run
> > either really early in the morning or in the evening....I am looking
> > for good 5-6 mile runs with anyone who wants to run,  no matter the
> > pace......
> > >
> >
>

Mary,
If you both filled out the info in the database you'd have each others
numbers ;)

Actually I would suggest one of you posting a weekly (or so) Fullerton
run on our Yahoo Group Calendar.  Posting it there gives others a
chance to join you guys as well.  If you do it every week I'm sure
more people will hop on as time goes by.

Jessica

--- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com, Mary Rosas <maryruns2it@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Nick,
> Sounds good!  I really want someone to run trails with. I usually do
track running Tues. and Thurs. but need to get in some trails to
strengthen my ankle.  Laguna Lake is where I start out at the
Fullerton Trails.  Should we exchange numbers?
> M
>
> --- On Wed, 7/2/08, nick collins <nick_collins_ca@...> wrote:
>
> From: nick collins <nick_collins_ca@...>
> Subject: Re: [TheOCTR] Re: north OC RUN
> To: TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 1:47 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> That's great.....fullerton is full of trails from what I can
tell......7- 8 miles would be a great run for me, a longer run but a
run i can do. Anyday for me is great to great....anytime after 6 PM
>
> --- On Wed, 7/2/08, healthyforlife1959 <healthyforlife1959@
yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: healthyforlife1959 <healthyforlife1959@ yahoo.com>
> Subject: [TheOCTR] Re: north OC RUN
> To: TheOCTR@yahoogroups .com
> Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 1:18 PM
>
>
>
>
> There must be some good trails in that area. I'll do some research on
> that. Maybe we could meet somewhere off the 91 fwy or in the Carbon
> Canyon area some evening. I know there are hills around Fullerton
> too. I'll see what I can find...
>
> Anyone from south county want to carpool?
>
> Dave
>
> --- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups .com, nick collins <nick_collins_ ca@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I live in Fullerton off Yorba Linda......
> > Days and time wise, I'm open........ I'm open to location as well,
> just really can't do the South O.C runs during the week.
> >
> > --- On Wed, 7/2/08, nick collins <nick_collins_ ca@> wrote:
> >
> > From: nick collins <nick_collins_ ca@>
> > Subject: [TheOCTR] north OC RUN
> > To: TheOCTR@yahoogroups .com
> > Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 11:30 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I was hoping to hook up with any runners in North OC for a run
> either really early in the morning or in the evening....I am looking
> for good 5-6 mile runs with anyone who wants to run,  no matter the
> pace......
> >
>

There must be some good trails in that area. I'll do some research on
that. Maybe we could meet somewhere off the 91 fwy or in the Carbon
Canyon area some evening. I know there are hills around Fullerton
too. I'll see what I can find...

Anyone from south county want to carpool?

Dave


--- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com, nick collins <nick_collins_ca@...>
wrote:
>
> I live in Fullerton off Yorba Linda......
> Days and time wise, I'm open........I'm open to location as well,
just really can't do the South O.C runs during the week.
>
> --- On Wed, 7/2/08, nick collins <nick_collins_ca@...> wrote:
>
> From: nick collins <nick_collins_ca@...>
> Subject: [TheOCTR] north OC RUN
> To: TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 11:30 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I was hoping to hook up with any runners in North OC for a run
either really early in the morning or in the evening....I am looking
for good 5-6 mile runs with anyone who wants to run,  no matter the
pace......
>

I'd like to get together for runs in the evenings with some people who
can't do Wednesday or Saturday group runs. I do runs on weekends during
the afternoon or evenings and would like to hook up with someone or
someone's. Anyone interested, please post times you would like to run
and we'll set something up! I'm pretty slow and am limited to about 6
miles for the time being, but we can set up a longer run and I'll just
bail out early.

Thanks!

Dave

Hey everyone,

I wanted to send out this note on OCTR membership. As you know, OCTR
membership is currently free. Because of this, we have many people
who've probably joined this site & group just to "check things out".
While that's fine for a while, I do want to encourage participation in
the group and group runs.

To some, it may be intimidating to come out to a trail run or group
run for the first time. I assure you that we are a very
un-intimidating group and don't worry much about distance, speed,
time, etc. We make every effort to accommodate runners of all types,
speeds, etc.

We'll also be having some type of social event in the next month or
two which will give people another chance to come out and meet other
members of the group and feel more comfortable running with us.

In order to help make this an active group, I'm asking a couple things:

First - Go to the database section in the Yahoo Group and enter in at
least your name and phone number + any other info you want to disclose
(only 13 people have done this so far). Please do this by July 15 as
we'll be putting together a phone contact list.

Second - I'm requiring all members to participate in a group run at
least once every quarter (90 days / 3 months). Of course there are
exceptions in the case of injuries, etc.

Third - New members need to attend a run within 60 days / 2 months of
joining. (this starts July 1 for all currently new members who have
not yet come to a run).

I don't want to bog down the club with rules but I DO want to
encourage group participation and discourage the looky-loos who just
want to see what's going on. We have 85 runners signed up for this
group but I've only seen about 15-20 of you out at various runs. No
need to hide :)

Hope to see you on the trail soon!
Jessica

Hi Mike,
If you are new to trails I would get out and run a few before you
decide to buy trail shoes or not.

Thanks for the email.  Hope to see you on the trails soon!!

Jessica

--- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com, Michael Turko <michael_turko@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Jessica,
>  
> As my email address indicates.. my name is Mike.  I signed up
recently.  I guess I might fall into a looky-loo status...  but I am
serious about a new running experience...
>  
> I have run a couple marathons and several half and shorter events. 
I'm not speedy (8:45 or so on paved trails for general/maintenance
running). 
>  
> I live in Corona, but work in Long Beach and run in OC frequently
(weekends too).
>  
> I will definitely be participating!  Do I need trail shoes?
>
> --- On Wed, 7/2/08, Jessica <jessica@...> wrote:
>
> From: Jessica <jessica@...>
> Subject: [TheOCTR] OCTR Membership Update
> To: TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 10:26 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey everyone,
>
> I wanted to send out this note on OCTR membership. As you know, OCTR
> membership is currently free. Because of this, we have many people
> who've probably joined this site & group just to "check things out".
> While that's fine for a while, I do want to encourage participation in
> the group and group runs.
>
> To some, it may be intimidating to come out to a trail run or group
> run for the first time. I assure you that we are a very
> un-intimidating group and don't worry much about distance, speed,
> time, etc. We make every effort to accommodate runners of all types,
> speeds, etc.
>
> We'll also be having some type of social event in the next month or
> two which will give people another chance to come out and meet other
> members of the group and feel more comfortable running with us.
>
> In order to help make this an active group, I'm asking a couple things:
>
> First - Go to the database section in the Yahoo Group and enter in at
> least your name and phone number + any other info you want to disclose
> (only 13 people have done this so far). Please do this by July 15 as
> we'll be putting together a phone contact list.
>
> Second - I'm requiring all members to participate in a group run at
> least once every quarter (90 days / 3 months). Of course there are
> exceptions in the case of injuries, etc.
>
> Third - New members need to attend a run within 60 days / 2 months of
> joining. (this starts July 1 for all currently new members who have
> not yet come to a run).
>
> I don't want to bog down the club with rules but I DO want to
> encourage group participation and discourage the looky-loos who just
> want to see what's going on. We have 85 runners signed up for this
> group but I've only seen about 15-20 of you out at various runs. No
> need to hide :)
>
> Hope to see you on the trail soon!
> Jessica
>

We'll do the July 26th new member run at Chino Hills at 7AM.
Hopefully that will bring out some of the North OC people who can hook
up for more runs in addition to this one!
Jessica

--- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com, nick collins <nick_collins_ca@...> wrote:
>
> I was hoping to hook up with any runners in North OC for a run
either really early in the morning or in the evening....I am looking
for good 5-6 mile runs with anyone who wants to run,  no matter the
pace......
>

Hi Mary,
Thanks for the email.  I certainly appreciate that some (like you) may
have schedule conflicts.

We will certainly have more run options as the group grows and anyone
in the group already has the ability to post their own runs for
members to attend if some of the existing times don't work.

Hopefully we'll get more people posting runs on different days and at
different times to help accommodate more schedules.

It would be nice to see some later Sunday morning runs, weekday
morning runs and later weekday evening runs.

I can't be at all of them, so post away people :)

Happy Running,
Jessica


--- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com, Mary Rosas <maryruns2it@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Jessica,
> I have been wanting to go on a first run with your group but it
looks like you run on Wed. Sat and Sun. together. I teach spin on
Wednesdays and ride on Sat. I do run on Sundays but you meet so early.
After a 80-100 mile bike ride on Sat. Sun. morning early is really
tough.  Hopefully, you will have other days that I can run with you
soon. Your group sounds like a great group of people!
> Mary
>
> --- On Wed, 7/2/08, Jessica <jessica@...> wrote:
>
> From: Jessica <jessica@...>
> Subject: [TheOCTR] OCTR Membership Update
> To: TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 10:26 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey everyone,
>
> I wanted to send out this note on OCTR membership. As you know, OCTR
> membership is currently free. Because of this, we have many people
> who've probably joined this site & group just to "check things out".
> While that's fine for a while, I do want to encourage participation in
> the group and group runs.
>
> To some, it may be intimidating to come out to a trail run or group
> run for the first time. I assure you that we are a very
> un-intimidating group and don't worry much about distance, speed,
> time, etc. We make every effort to accommodate runners of all types,
> speeds, etc.
>
> We'll also be having some type of social event in the next month or
> two which will give people another chance to come out and meet other
> members of the group and feel more comfortable running with us.
>
> In order to help make this an active group, I'm asking a couple things:
>
> First - Go to the database section in the Yahoo Group and enter in at
> least your name and phone number + any other info you want to disclose
> (only 13 people have done this so far). Please do this by July 15 as
> we'll be putting together a phone contact list.
>
> Second - I'm requiring all members to participate in a group run at
> least once every quarter (90 days / 3 months). Of course there are
> exceptions in the case of injuries, etc.
>
> Third - New members need to attend a run within 60 days / 2 months of
> joining. (this starts July 1 for all currently new members who have
> not yet come to a run).
>
> I don't want to bog down the club with rules but I DO want to
> encourage group participation and discourage the looky-loos who just
> want to see what's going on. We have 85 runners signed up for this
> group but I've only seen about 15-20 of you out at various runs. No
> need to hide :)
>
> Hope to see you on the trail soon!
> Jessica
>

Hey everyone,

I wanted to send out this note on OCTR membership.  As you know, OCTR
membership is currently free.  Because of this, we have many people
who've probably joined this site & group just to "check things out".
While that's fine for a while, I do want to encourage participation in
the group and group runs.

To some, it may be intimidating to come out to a trail run or group
run for the first time.  I assure you that we are a very
un-intimidating group and don't worry much about distance, speed,
time, etc.  We make every effort to accommodate runners of all types,
speeds, etc.

We'll also be having some type of social event in the next month or
two which will give people another chance to come out and meet other
members of the group and feel more comfortable running with us.

In order to help make this an active group, I'm asking a couple things:

First - Go to the database section in the Yahoo Group and enter in at
least your name and phone number + any other info you want to disclose
(only 13 people have done this so far).  Please do this by July 15 as
we'll be putting together a phone contact list.

Second - I'm requiring all members to participate in a group run at
least once every quarter (90 days / 3 months).  Of course there are
exceptions in the case of injuries, etc.

Third - New members need to attend a run within 60 days / 2 months of
joining.  (this starts July 1 for all currently new members who have
not yet come to a run).

I don't want to bog down the club with rules but I DO want to
encourage group participation and discourage the looky-loos who just
want to see what's going on.  We have 85 runners signed up for this
group but I've only seen about 15-20 of you out at various runs.  No
need to hide :)

Hope to see you on the trail soon!
Jessica

At least it's not heart related :)
But it is painful still.  My doctor said it appears to be deeper down
and is not a strain near the surface.  Whatever that means.  I'm
jealous you all get to run in El Moro this afternoon!
Jessica

--- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com, "healthyforlife1959"
<healthyforlife1959@...> wrote:
>
> Jessica, sorry to hear about this, and I sure hope it goes away soon.
> I've had chest pains in the past, but they did not persist for more
> than a day or two and were never very intense. Back then I was running
> at high altitudes, and sometimes I would feel sharp pains in my chest
> during the run, and it felt like what you described. I believe the
> pains were from the heavy breathing I was doing which no doubt strained
> certain muscles in there. Running at 8,000+ feet I would sometimes feel
> like I was gasping for air.
>
> Anyway, you're very courageous, and I know you'll be back out there
> very soon. You'll probably benifit from a short rest, after that long
> run!
>
> Dave
>

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

Jessica, sorry to hear about this, and I sure hope it goes away soon.
I've had chest pains in the past, but they did not persist for more
than a day or two and were never very intense. Back then I was running
at high altitudes, and sometimes I would feel sharp pains in my chest
during the run, and it felt like what you described. I believe the
pains were from the heavy breathing I was doing which no doubt strained
certain muscles in there. Running at 8,000+ feet I would sometimes feel
like I was gasping for air.

Anyway, you're very courageous, and I know you'll be back out there
very soon. You'll probably benifit from a short rest, after that long
run!

Dave

Hey Russ -
You got it!  You just send an email to me (the moderator) or the
person who posted the run and they will add your name to it.

--- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com, "russhud24" <russhud@...> wrote:
>
>
> I still haven't figured out how to add my name to an event...but I
> plan to be there.
>
> Russ.
>
>
> --- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com, "healthyforlife1959"
> <healthyforlife1959@> wrote:
> >
> > Works for me.
> >
> >
> > --- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com, "mattmh20" <mattmh20@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I just posted the run.  Just off the top of my head I was
> thinking
> > of
> > > doing emerald canyon the opposite way that we did it before, I'm
> > open
> > > to suggestions as well.
> > >
> > > -Matt
> > >
> > > --- In TheOCTR@yahoogroups.com, "Jessica" <jessica@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey All -
> > > > I don't have an El Moro run on the schedule this week since I
> > can't
> > > > run this Wednesday.  I think we should still have it.  I'm sure
> > enough
> > > > people will go.  One of you all can put it on the calendar if
> you
> > feel
> > > > so inspired and I'm sure there will be enough people to run 5
> or 7
> > > > miles :)
> > > > Jessica
> > > >
> > >
> >
>