Well Roy here is wishing you a wonderful upcoming Boxing Day, I usually celebrate that here too, I go have a few pint's of black & Tan and then offer to box anyone who thinks they're bad enough, LOL!!!
Actually I was born Irish and Native American (I won't mention the Welsh and German side) so I had to drink but couldn't handle it, that's why I gave up drinking as I found out I was allergic to alcohol, every time I drank I broke out, IN HANDCUFFS!!!!!!!!
I don't really miss it much after 22 years though, I'll leave it up to you young blokes such as yourself and Carl!!!!
Glad your health issues are being taken care of and looking good, here's wishing you and your family all the best in health and blessings for a better new year to come, thoughts and prayers are with you and Brenda and your family!
Sorry I have not been around much. I had a hard time logging on for the past few
weeks.
My heath has been good. Just completed my annual physical and feeling good. I
have a lot to be thankful for this year.
I haven't done much throwing lately. Been too busy in the shop, which is a good
thing. I'll try to be more active since I can log on now.
Bobby
But its good to know I'm travelling on this River in good company!
Thanks for creating this group, and thanks for inviting me!
My little girl, my younger daughter, just turned 20 last week, Man, I can believe it! A Baby some few years ago...its maybe a personal note, but one that once more made me realize how fast time passes bye....
Its great to be aging with you, amigos, and hope I can meet you, Ralph, Joe and other folks personally. Maybe Italia nex year?
Anyway, a Great abraço! Its a honour to be part of this group, and a honour to be a friend of yours.
Looks that I Explained what Thanksgiven day is...I believe we All have to applaud goodwill people, they are the persons that I respect...And , yes, our little 3 persons group became bigger...maybe cause we Are goodwill people!
Wish you All a great day, lets think of it as a Goodwill Day....
Abraço
Dalmo
--- Em qui, 26/11/09, eralphthorn <eralphthorn@...> escreveu:
De: eralphthorn <eralphthorn@...> Assunto: [TheBladeThrower] Re: Happy Thanksgiving Para: TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com Data: Quinta-feira, 26 de Novembro de 2009, 20:12
Best wishes to all group members around the world, some of whom probably won't know what "Thanksgiving" is...it's hard to believe this group is now four years old and has nearly 200 members - it seems like yesterday that it was only me, Roy and Dalmo...
Ralph Thorn
--- In TheBladeThrower@ yahoogroups. com, "knifesrme" <brknfthr@.. .> wrote: > > I too wish all of my friends, brothers & Sisters of the Knife a safe and happy thanks giving with wishes that we all remain thankful for even the smallest things we have as they are sometimes the most overlooked and important!!! > > As for me I am thankful my new workshop is up and running and that I'm finally gettting caught up with some back orders even while working on some new
projects. > > One of the new projects I'm currently working on is a Tabak and Balraw for Mat Marinas, the one I have almost done is very similar in shape to the old Vorpal knives but a bit longer, the other is a smaller Bowie type knife which to be honest I haven't started on yet but it's coming. > > I have quite a few knives up on ebay presently and may put a few more up soon, the only Thrower I have listed is an old Tru-Bal Bowie Axe made by Harry McEvoy for a soldier heading out to Viet Nam, I am also working on a Bowie for a gentleman in Italy but not sure how I'll get it to him as shipping weapons there is a bit of a crapshoot. > > Anyway I haven't seen much posted here of late and thought I'd take this opportunity to thank you all for your participating and interest in throwing, for the hundreds of friends I've made through this great art/sport of ours I am truly thankful!!! > > Wishing you all
the best of everything today and the upcoming holiday season!!! > > Joe D. > > Joe Darrah > Brokenfeather > Custom Knives >
Must remember that Thanksgiving day is Dued to American Indians that saved English colonizers for dying of hunger.
Joe is a small part American Indian, I'm small part Brazilian Indian..They were no Christians, Musslins, Jewish...Just decent people..that saw other people suffering and decided to help.
Its interesting to know that Even what are called primitive people can Help other people...Wish it could go on nowadays....
A great day for goodwill people, no matter theyr race...collor...or religion...
Regards
Dalmo
--- Em qui, 26/11/09, knifesrme <brknfthr@...> escreveu:
De: knifesrme <brknfthr@...> Assunto: [TheBladeThrower] Happy Thanksgiving Para: TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com Data: Quinta-feira, 26 de Novembro de 2009, 17:25
I too wish all of my friends, brothers & Sisters of the Knife a safe and happy thanks giving with wishes that we all remain thankful for even the smallest things we have as they are sometimes the most overlooked and important!!!
As for me I am thankful my new workshop is up and running and that I'm finally gettting caught up with some back orders even while working on some new projects.
One of the new projects I'm currently working on is a Tabak and Balraw for Mat Marinas, the one I have almost done is very similar in shape to the old Vorpal knives but a bit longer, the other is a smaller Bowie type knife which to be honest I haven't started on yet but it's coming.
I have quite a few knives up on ebay presently and may put a few more up soon, the only Thrower I have listed is an old Tru-Bal Bowie Axe made by Harry McEvoy for a soldier heading out to Viet Nam, I am also working on a Bowie for a gentleman in Italy but not sure
how I'll get it to him as shipping weapons there is a bit of a crapshoot.
Anyway I haven't seen much posted here of late and thought I'd take this opportunity to thank you all for your participating and interest in throwing, for the hundreds of friends I've made through this great art/sport of ours I am truly thankful!!!
Wishing you all the best of everything today and the upcoming holiday season!!!
Ralph
Four years, time really does fly by.
I remember sitting at my computer, wondering how much it would cost to start
thebladethrower, but
was surprised to find it was free in yahoo. So I kicked it off and
informed Dalmo and yourself that
we now had a proper place to chat that might attract a few more who wanted
to throw a style that
was different than the normal multi spin style. 200, is a good few, but
it would be nice to hear from
some of them, now and again.
Happy thanksgiving to our US friends,(I do know what its for Ralph). I wish
we had special days
holiday over here, just to give thanks for what we have.
Best wishes all.
Roy
----- Original Message -----
From: "eralphthorn" <eralphthorn@...>
To: <TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:12 PM
Subject: [TheBladeThrower] Re: Happy Thanksgiving
> Best wishes to all group members around the world, some of whom probably
> won't know what "Thanksgiving" is...it's hard to believe this group is now
> four years old and has nearly 200 members - it seems like yesterday that
> it was only me, Roy and Dalmo...
>
> Ralph Thorn
>
> --- In TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com, "knifesrme" <brknfthr@...> wrote:
>>
>> I too wish all of my friends, brothers & Sisters of the Knife a safe and
>> happy thanks giving with wishes that we all remain thankful for even the
>> smallest things we have as they are sometimes the most overlooked and
>> important!!!
>>
>> As for me I am thankful my new workshop is up and running and that I'm
>> finally gettting caught up with some back orders even while working on
>> some new projects.
>>
>> One of the new projects I'm currently working on is a Tabak and Balraw
>> for Mat Marinas, the one I have almost done is very similar in shape to
>> the old Vorpal knives but a bit longer, the other is a smaller Bowie type
>> knife which to be honest I haven't started on yet but it's coming.
>>
>> I have quite a few knives up on ebay presently and may put a few more up
>> soon, the only Thrower I have listed is an old Tru-Bal Bowie Axe made by
>> Harry McEvoy for a soldier heading out to Viet Nam, I am also working on
>> a Bowie for a gentleman in Italy but not sure how I'll get it to him as
>> shipping weapons there is a bit of a crapshoot.
>>
>> Anyway I haven't seen much posted here of late and thought I'd take this
>> opportunity to thank you all for your participating and interest in
>> throwing, for the hundreds of friends I've made through this great
>> art/sport of ours I am truly thankful!!!
>>
>> Wishing you all the best of everything today and the upcoming holiday
>> season!!!
>>
>> Joe D.
>>
>> Joe Darrah
>> Brokenfeather
>> Custom Knives
>>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
>
>
Best wishes to all group members around the world, some of whom probably won't
know what "Thanksgiving" is...it's hard to believe this group is now four years
old and has nearly 200 members - it seems like yesterday that it was only me,
Roy and Dalmo...
Ralph Thorn
--- In TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com, "knifesrme" <brknfthr@...> wrote:
>
> I too wish all of my friends, brothers & Sisters of the Knife a safe and
happy thanks giving with wishes that we all remain thankful for even the
smallest things we have as they are sometimes the most overlooked and
important!!!
>
> As for me I am thankful my new workshop is up and running and that I'm
finally gettting caught up with some back orders even while working on some new
projects.
>
> One of the new projects I'm currently working on is a Tabak and Balraw for
Mat Marinas, the one I have almost done is very similar in shape to the old
Vorpal knives but a bit longer, the other is a smaller Bowie type knife which to
be honest I haven't started on yet but it's coming.
>
> I have quite a few knives up on ebay presently and may put a few more up
soon, the only Thrower I have listed is an old Tru-Bal Bowie Axe made by Harry
McEvoy for a soldier heading out to Viet Nam, I am also working on a Bowie for a
gentleman in Italy but not sure how I'll get it to him as shipping weapons there
is a bit of a crapshoot.
>
> Anyway I haven't seen much posted here of late and thought I'd take this
opportunity to thank you all for your participating and interest in throwing,
for the hundreds of friends I've made through this great art/sport of ours I am
truly thankful!!!
>
> Wishing you all the best of everything today and the upcoming holiday
season!!!
>
> Joe D.
>
> Joe Darrah
> Brokenfeather
> Custom Knives
>
I too wish all of my friends, brothers & Sisters of the Knife a safe and happy
thanks giving with wishes that we all remain thankful for even the smallest
things we have as they are sometimes the most overlooked and important!!!
As for me I am thankful my new workshop is up and running and that I'm finally
gettting caught up with some back orders even while working on some new
projects.
One of the new projects I'm currently working on is a Tabak and Balraw for Mat
Marinas, the one I have almost done is very similar in shape to the old Vorpal
knives but a bit longer, the other is a smaller Bowie type knife which to be
honest I haven't started on yet but it's coming.
I have quite a few knives up on ebay presently and may put a few more up soon,
the only Thrower I have listed is an old Tru-Bal Bowie Axe made by Harry McEvoy
for a soldier heading out to Viet Nam, I am also working on a Bowie for a
gentleman in Italy but not sure how I'll get it to him as shipping weapons there
is a bit of a crapshoot.
Anyway I haven't seen much posted here of late and thought I'd take this
opportunity to thank you all for your participating and interest in throwing,
for the hundreds of friends I've made through this great art/sport of ours I am
truly thankful!!!
Wishing you all the best of everything today and the upcoming holiday season!!!
Joe D.
Joe Darrah
Brokenfeather
Custom Knives
Robert Cornelison hi
I got past index finger problem sometime ago, along with some other problems
with my other throwing styles. Basically all styles incorporate some kind of
controlled release and inevitably the only way to control the knife is by
releasing it with ease, obtaining the feel for the momentum of the knife
(inertia forces) and correcting the trajectory and rotation. My other latest
finding is that knife has to be deliberately pointing back, almost parallel to
the ground on the back stoke so that the blade itself will be going much faster
than the handle. That kind of creates the illusion of blade pulling the whole
knife out of my hand, making release and correction much easier, sort of like
front wheel drive car being pulled forward with much less tendency to spin. It
sort of contradicts the idea of spinless throw but it actually helps to make the
knife to fly straight. So, I rotate it much more vigorously initially to
accelerate the blade and to get handle to push into my palm solidly. Then comes
the finiky part... Works with most any grips. Wave-like motion everybody is
talking about just helps to reach the same goal - accelerate the blade and let
it overtake the rest of the knife.
--- In TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com, "cornelison_robert"
<cornelison_robert@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> I had the same problem with my index finger. To correct it (for the most part)
I relaxed my release a bit, letting the knife slide out of my hand, while using
my index finger to influance the flight pattern. So far it has been wonderful
and I have even been throwing sidearm with it.
>
>
> --- In TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com, "andrewyakuhin" <yakuhin@> wrote:
> >
> > people, I have a qustion to those who still does throw using 1/4 spin
technique. Is index finger absolutely best method for choking/counterspinning
the knife?
> >
> > I was noticing during early days of my no-spin tries that index finger
produces very "unstable" throws. Sort of not enough surface area on the knife
and the finger itself. Yesterday I really surprised myself with the beauty of
my throws at 10-12 feet, was almost like magic, but some throws were
intentionally with "finger of god" and some others just throws by "god only
knows how" technique. Both were producing similar effect. I think I am sliding
the second or third phalang of index finger and knife is held by relaxed hammer
grip (sort of).
> >
> > Today I wasn't in my best shape and "finger of god" didn't work for me at
all and the only sticks were from my (TM) "whatever works just stick it" throws.
> >
> > Hense is the question. Should I work a little more on building "muscle
index finger" or shoulda just keep sticking by "whichever way works"? I know
from other sports, often new student have to study proper way of doing things
even if he doesn't like it or if his own way of doing things temporarely
produces better results. Is it the same way here?
> >
>
LOL! I knew it was too good to be true. :(
Well, I am looking forward to talking with everyone and sharing tips and
technics.
~Rob~
--- In TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com, james fry <hunter02_2002@...> wrote:
>
> Don't let him kid you. This is the ER Thorn that runs Flaming Sunset Tours
down in Key West. Â
> Welcome to the group. Jim
>
> --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Ralph Thorn <eralphthorn@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Ralph Thorn <eralphthorn@...>
> Subject: Re: [TheBladeThrower] Hello Everyone!
> To: TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 7:51 PM
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
>
>
> I didn't realize that I am infamous. Notorious, maybe, but not infamous : )
>
> Welcome to the group.
>
> RT
>
>
>
>
>
> From: cornelison_robert <cornelison_robert@ yahoo.com>
> To: TheBladeThrower@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 3:59:31 PM
> Subject: [TheBladeThrower] Hello Everyone!
>
> Â
>
> I just found this group, I started reading some posts and I noticed that a
bunch are from eralphthorn. Is this really the infamous Ralph Thorn???
>
Hi Andrew,
I had the same problem with my index finger. To correct it (for the most part) I
relaxed my release a bit, letting the knife slide out of my hand, while using my
index finger to influance the flight pattern. So far it has been wonderful and I
have even been throwing sidearm with it.
--- In TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com, "andrewyakuhin" <yakuhin@...> wrote:
>
> people, I have a qustion to those who still does throw using 1/4 spin
technique. Is index finger absolutely best method for choking/counterspinning
the knife?
>
> I was noticing during early days of my no-spin tries that index finger
produces very "unstable" throws. Sort of not enough surface area on the knife
and the finger itself. Yesterday I really surprised myself with the beauty of
my throws at 10-12 feet, was almost like magic, but some throws were
intentionally with "finger of god" and some others just throws by "god only
knows how" technique. Both were producing similar effect. I think I am sliding
the second or third phalang of index finger and knife is held by relaxed hammer
grip (sort of).
>
> Today I wasn't in my best shape and "finger of god" didn't work for me at all
and the only sticks were from my (TM) "whatever works just stick it" throws.
>
> Hense is the question. Should I work a little more on building "muscle index
finger" or shoulda just keep sticking by "whichever way works"? I know from
other sports, often new student have to study proper way of doing things even if
he doesn't like it or if his own way of doing things temporarely produces better
results. Is it the same way here?
>
--- On Sat, 11/14/09, brknfthr@... <brknfthr@...> wrote:
From: brknfthr@... <brknfthr@...> Subject: Re: [TheBladeThrower] Happy Birthday, Joe D To: TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 4:07 PM
As Much as Ralph, Roy or TGt, he teached me his tricks on knifethrowing for free, and was always a good friend.
Wish him my best wishes, and, I would like to have All our folks birthdays dates, its important for me and for all of us, hey, we are live and throwing. BTW, mine is april 1, april foolsday.
An appropriate date! Maybe I'm not fool, but I'm Mad.
Abraços, be well,
Dalmo --- Em sáb, 14/11/09, brknfthr@... <brknfthr@...> escreveu:
De: brknfthr@... <brknfthr@...> Assunto: Re: [TheBladeThrower] Viet Nam Tru-Bal Bowie Axe Thrower Para: TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com Data: Sábado, 14 de Novembro de 2009, 6:34
Oh and by the way when you say you have Harry's book which one do you mean?
He wrote several of them including a very rare one on Archery.
No the knife made from the Patton Blade is not one of Harry's it's another Military Secondary knife that was made by a private sector company.
Many companies made knives for private sale to Military Personnel and quite a few used the Patton Sabers to accomplish that, San Antonio Knife Works, of TX. Knife Crafter's of Chestnut Hill Phila. and also Anderson Knives made them using this method.
It is one of several knives I was sent along with an old Tru-Bal Bowie Axe that is absolutely Viet Nam Era, I also have another village in country knife of the same time period that is from Cambodia, I will likely be listing a couple of old original John Ek fighting knives which were also a private contractor making knives for Military Personnel back in 1941.
The Tru-Bal Bowie Axe has the original sheath and was made by Harry McKevoy, both Harry and Dan Dennehy of Del Norte CO. got their start in the Military, the knife can be seen in the book Knives Of Vietnam by Mike Silvey as well as www.militaryfightingknives.com and the information on the Anderson was gotten from John Gunderson www.gundersonmilitaria.com where you can see an example of an unfinished knife.
The old Patton Sabers were usually made into 3 knives per sword blade this particular Anderson is the tip of the blade with the blood groove highly pronounced, I apologize for the confusion but the Bowie Axe is as usable today as back when Harry made it but has seen some action!
Ok I tholt Harry K. McEvoy was the designer of tru-balance and he was not
putting out knives in 1913? I have a copy of the book he put out The
Knife throwing in the professional style
Copyright 1969
So so how 1913 no way ?
I'm not sure how many collectors are here but a friend sent a Viet Nam Era
Tru-Bal Bowie Axe with the original sheath along with an Anderson Knife made
from a 1913 Patton Saber and an older and "In Country" made Machete Type knife
to sell for them on Ebay.
I know I have seen a lot of brand new Bowie Axe's sell as Viet Nam Era which I
know were not but this is a Square Butt with a Lanyard Hole and original brown
riveted Bowie Type Sheath, I'll list the Bowie Axe as a Tru-Bal Bowie Axe or if
anyone is interested they can contact me, I haven't gotten pic's of the stuff
yet as we're in the end of a Nor'Easter storm here in PA. and I just got them in
today hopefully I'll get some sun so I can take some pic's tomorrow.
Joe D.
brknfthr@...
This is not the pinch grip you are thinking of, the knife dangles between the thumb and finger as though it were on a piece of string.
Most times it falls out on the floor as you swing it over, remember, it has to dangle loosely. Its just a bit of fun, its akin to the knife dangling on a string fitted at the extreme handle end.
Dont take it as a serious throw, its not. If I remember right, I kept dropping the knife many times before I got one to fly.
The inertia in the throw makes the knife leave the grip before the arm is over. Make sure nobody is standing behind you if you try.
Subject: [TheBladeThrower] RAlph and Roy, 2 questions... .
To not fill the mailboxes with lots of Dalmos, let me ask you both two questions...
1) Roy, is you "dead rat's tail grip"what we also call a "pinch grip"? I use it to throw sharp knives, with Spin, but never tried it in a No spin throw. How far can you go?
2) Ralph- I believer part of the efectiveness of you style resides in the Power you put in your throwin. Question: if you throw the Same style with Half (No P.I:) the power , would you also stick the knives with the same accuracy????
Roy- Thanks - I believe your "rats tail grip"is more"Rotten rats tail grip", meaning you hold the knife with some repugnance ;) !
Ralph, and what it happens if you use Half of you power, will you still be accurate???
Oh, today I suffered a Lot trying the longest I can...couldn pass 12 feet decently....
REgards
Dalmo
--- Em qui, 12/11/09, Ralph Thorn <eralphthorn@...> escreveu:
De: Ralph Thorn <eralphthorn@...> Assunto: Re: [TheBladeThrower] RAlph and Roy, 2 questions.... Para: TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com Data: Quinta-feira, 12 de Novembro de 2009, 15:18
Dalmo,
I am probably most accurate at about 3/4 of my full power, certainly not at full power.
From: Roy Hutchison <royhutchy2000@ yahoo.co. uk> To: TheBladeThrower@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 4:48:00 AM Subject: Re: [TheBladeThrower] RAlph and Roy, 2 questions... .
Dalmo
This is not the pinch grip you are thinking of, the knife dangles between the thumb and finger as though it were on a piece of string.
Most times it falls out on the floor as you swing it over, remember, it has to dangle loosely. Its just a bit of fun, its akin to the knife dangling on a string fitted at the extreme handle end.
Dont take it as a serious throw, its not. If I remember right, I kept dropping the knife many times before I got one to fly.
The inertia in the throw makes the knife leave the grip before the arm is over. Make sure nobody is standing behind you if you try.
Subject: [TheBladeThrower] RAlph and Roy, 2 questions... .
To not fill the mailboxes with lots of Dalmos, let me ask you both two questions...
1) Roy, is you "dead rat's tail grip"what we also call a "pinch grip"? I use it to throw sharp knives, with Spin, but never tried it in a No spin throw. How far can you go?
2) Ralph- I believer part of the efectiveness of you style resides in the Power you put in your throwin. Question: if you throw the Same style with Half (No P.I:) the power , would you also stick the knives with the same accuracy????
I am probably most accurate at about 3/4 of my full power, certainly not at full power.
From: Roy Hutchison <royhutchy2000@...> To: TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 4:48:00 AM Subject: Re: [TheBladeThrower] RAlph and Roy, 2
questions....
Dalmo
This is not the pinch grip you are thinking of, the knife dangles between the thumb and finger as though it were on a piece of string.
Most times it falls out on the floor as you swing it over, remember, it has to dangle loosely. Its just a bit of fun, its akin to the knife dangling on a string fitted at the extreme handle end.
Dont take it as a serious throw, its not. If I remember right, I kept dropping the knife many times before I got one to fly.
The inertia in the throw makes the knife leave the grip before the arm is over. Make sure nobody is standing behind you if you try.
Subject: [TheBladeThrower] RAlph and Roy, 2 questions... .
To not fill the mailboxes with lots of Dalmos, let me ask you both two questions...
1) Roy, is you "dead rat's tail grip"what we also call a "pinch grip"? I use it to throw sharp knives, with Spin, but never tried it in a No spin throw. How far can you go?
2) Ralph- I believer part of the efectiveness of you style resides in the Power you put in your throwin. Question: if you throw the Same style with Half (No P.I:) the power , would you also stick the knives with the same accuracy????
This is not the pinch grip you are thinking of, the knife dangles between the thumb and finger as though it were on a piece of string.
Most times it falls out on the floor as you swing it over, remember, it has to dangle loosely. Its just a bit of fun, its akin to the knife dangling on a string fitted at the extreme handle end.
Dont take it as a serious throw, its not. If I remember right, I kept dropping the knife many times before I got one to fly.
The inertia in the throw makes the knife leave the grip before the arm is over. Make sure nobody is standing behind you if you try.
Subject: [TheBladeThrower] RAlph and Roy, 2 questions....
To not fill the mailboxes with lots of Dalmos, let me ask you both two questions...
1) Roy, is you "dead rat's tail grip"what we also call a "pinch grip"? I use it to throw sharp knives, with Spin, but never tried it in a No spin throw. How far can you go?
2) Ralph- I believer part of the efectiveness of you style resides in the Power you put in your throwin. Question: if you throw the Same style with Half (No P.I:) the power , would you also stick the knives with the same accuracy????