Hi, Amigos

Altought our site is more turned to no-conventional throwing, and besides the fact that I am the first disciple of Roy & Ralph in this matter, I’m also a spin thrower, and I have some new things to relate.

When  I started to throw I had problems (as most spin throwers) when throwin from No spin distances (lets say, Out of  my natural 7/8 feet for half spin, 11/12 to one spin, etc).

Well, I like to practice all kinds of throwing, and one of these days I decided to try to throw from any range, but being free to use Any style.

The result was very interesting, If I change the style and the grip (lets say, hammer grip, thumb grip, finger grip) and also use the resource of triggering the knives, I realized nowadays I can throw from Any intermediate range, the Only concern is that sometimes I have to Loose one knife to Check how it hits the target, than correct the next throw.

Would like to know if you have tried this practices, yet, and maybe try a on-line competition (well, not a Competition, but a Try) to check how many knives we can stick from Any dued range, would ask Roy to establish the distances....

 What do you think about it?

Dalmo

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----- Original Message -----

From: dalmo mariano da silva junior

To: TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 6:41 PM

Subject: [TheBladeThrower] Roy and old men toys

OK, Roy, youre right.

Other task, is Roy your name or a shortening like Jack for John, Joe for Joseph, etc?

Dalmo

royhutchison <royhutchy2000@...> escreveu:

Dalmo

 

We will carry on this subject on our private email ads.  Im sure most of our members dont want to hear about our old toys.

The bows are of interest though, im sure.    Lets hear from some of our new members as to how they are getting on with the blade throws or nospins, or even archery or whatever.

 

Roy

----- Original Message -----

From: dalmo mariano da silva junior

To: TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:15 PM

Subject: [TheBladeThrower] Old watches, old knives, old guys....

Roy

 

This is the first time I heard about Mudu watches and in a rapid search at Internet I found out that they are classics, whats there origin?

 

I got a 60 years old Omega that belonged to my dad, its automatic but with the seconds pointer not at the center of the dial, and I got another very old Omega silver pocket watch. And a diving Bulova from 1969, my dad also gave me it brand new when I was 14...the watch was Bigger than me!

 

Talking about cameras, I have two Nikons and a Rolleiflex from the 40's, all work perfectly - altought, as you do, I use a simple digital camer for daily tasks.

Tell me a bit more about your classic cars, I love to hear this kind of histories.

 

Other task, as you I'm not that fascinated for old knives, but I like old bows, there are some made in mid 60's that are so well finished as violins.

Laminated wood, you know, two collors...

 

Will send you some pics of my trashes to your private mail...

 

Best regards

Dalmo

royhutchison <royhutchy2000@yahoo.co.uk> escreveu:

Dalmo

 

Only recently have I sold one of my last classic cars.     Although I have 2 smallish cars to use everyday, I still have my chevy stepside truck, although the truck is not that old its a 1987 model, one of the newest ive had, usually my cars are much older.     But its too much hard work at my age to keep them in good condition.

 

I Have a watch collection, and wear a 60 year old "MuDu" automatic that ive worn for 51 years.

 

Ive just bought a 1876 year rimfire 9m revolver for my small collection.

 

Yes Dalmo, I had all the triumphs, as well as a Bonneville, and numerous other makes.

Never had a Harley though.

Ive still got an old camera collection, but I use a modern digital.

 

However, it might seem strange, but I have no interest in old knives or even new ones, I simply make the knives I need.

 

Im just an old fart at heart.

 

Roy

----- Original Message -----

From: dalmo mariano da silva junior

To: TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 6:28 PM

Subject: [TheBladeThrower] Old Machinery's magic

Roy

 

I always loved how old things works, the final Edge of an era makes outstanding technology, that can live throught time.

 

An example: the last Clippers were some of the most beautifull ships ever made...A racing Jaguar of the 50's and early 60's are, for me, a piece of art as a scupture....

 

I have a Nikon F that is Still ouststanding for taking pictures, even being 35 plus years old. I also own some old wristwatches, with mechanical movement...that are Very precise.

 

My favorite motorcycle (and I had lots of them) was a 1974 Yamaha TX 650, a very confortable bike and a pleasure to ride, it looked more or less like a Triumph Bonneville.

 

Would love to have it back, only today its a collector piece and worths lots of money.

 

About living in the past, well, I could manage it, only would like to have a Hot shower and as Charlie pointed, some help of modern medicine. But I believe I could hunt with a bow or an old Winchester....

 

Other thing that changed a lot (in this case, for Better) are Tennis Rackets, I have one made of laminated wood to decorate my wall, its a beautifull piece, but for sure the modern ones of carbon fiber are far much better....

 

Do you still own old cars? When I was a kid (Loooong time ago) my Dad owned Two English cars, an Austin A-70 and a Ford Consul...

 

Best regards

 

Dalmo

royhutchison <royhutchy2000@yahoo.co.uk> escreveu:

Ralph/Dalmo

 

Ive long since thought, that us guys/gals who like to throw knives/spears, and all the other wonderful olden day toys, we are really living in the wrong era.   I think most of us are born 100 years too late.    We are all really cowboys and Indians at heart.  

 

I love all the old things, cars, knives, bows and arrows, spears, guns, etc, mostly made to high standards, by hand, by craftsmen, with lifetime skills which are long gone in general, except the odd custom makes of which there are few.

 

Like Ralph, I too would be interested in how many of our members are like minded.

 

Roy

----- Original Message -----

From: Ralph Thorn

To: TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 1:38 AM

Subject: Re: [TheBladeThrower] A visit to a bowmaker

It occurs to me that archery has the same advantages over guns that knife throwing has: silence, and the fact that you don't use up your ammo. You can use your arrows over and over, unlike bullets, of course.

I'm curious to know how many of our members are also archers.


ert

Charles Anderson <charlesanderson@optushome.com.au> wrote:

Hi Guys,

It was said to me once that the bow has developed just as much as the hand gun.

Compound bows are far easier to manage than a straight bow, go past the break point of the compound bow and you can hold the string there for a very long time.  A 100 lb. longbow stays 100 lb., I don't know anyone that can hold 100 lb. long bow for very long.



Regards Charles from Oz
P.S.  Slap that wine maker friend of yours, wine tastes better from an oak barrel... imo.

dalmo mariano da silva junior wrote:

Hi, Folks

Today I went to a bowmakers house, he is famous for making longbows (English style) here, and he is a bowhunter and a former competition shooter.

What I found out:

- he said I'm pretty decent as an archer, I became proud cause I learned alone and tought I had lots of defects.

- He Prooved me that (look, He Is a longbows maker) compound bows are much better for any use, a much smaller bow can shot with more speed, and its more precise than any kind of old fashioned archery device.

(he also makes compound bows, some are able to shot at more than 100 ms second...).

The cruel truth is, you can Aim for more time and more confortably with a coumpound than with a flat/long/recurve bow.

I became saddened, but I Tried all of his bows and For sure the compounds can shot faster and better than the traditional ones/

 Sob, I also love cars with carburators, but they are not as good as fuel injected ones, looks that poor Dalmo is an old fashioned man....

Some time ago Roy told me compound bows are better, now I have to take my hat off to Him. To live and to learn...

Abraços

Old fashioned Dalmo

PS- I have a friend who is a winemaker, he is eighty three years old and have some barrels with more than 400 years in his farm, he said Stainless Steell barrels are as good or better than any old wood barrel, so even old people are learning with new technology...

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Dalmo

 

We will carry on this subject on our private email ads.  Im sure most of our members dont want to hear about our old toys.

The bows are of interest though, im sure.    Lets hear from some of our new members as to how they are getting on with the blade throws or nospins, or even archery or whatever.

 

Roy

----- Original Message -----

From: dalmo mariano da silva junior

To: TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:15 PM

Subject: [TheBladeThrower] Old watches, old knives, old guys....

Roy

 

This is the first time I heard about Mudu watches and in a rapid search at Internet I found out that they are classics, whats there origin?

 

I got a 60 years old Omega that belonged to my dad, its automatic but with the seconds pointer not at the center of the dial, and I got another very old Omega silver pocket watch. And a diving Bulova from 1969, my dad also gave me it brand new when I was 14...the watch was Bigger than me!

 

Talking about cameras, I have two Nikons and a Rolleiflex from the 40's, all work perfectly - altought, as you do, I use a simple digital camer for daily tasks.

Tell me a bit more about your classic cars, I love to hear this kind of histories.

 

Other task, as you I'm not that fascinated for old knives, but I like old bows, there are some made in mid 60's that are so well finished as violins.

Laminated wood, you know, two collors...

 

Will send you some pics of my trashes to your private mail...

 

Best regards

Dalmo

royhutchison <royhutchy2000@yahoo.co.uk> escreveu:

Dalmo

 

Only recently have I sold one of my last classic cars.     Although I have 2 smallish cars to use everyday, I still have my chevy stepside truck, although the truck is not that old its a 1987 model, one of the newest ive had, usually my cars are much older.     But its too much hard work at my age to keep them in good condition.

 

I Have a watch collection, and wear a 60 year old "MuDu" automatic that ive worn for 51 years.

 

Ive just bought a 1876 year rimfire 9m revolver for my small collection.

 

Yes Dalmo, I had all the triumphs, as well as a Bonneville, and numerous other makes.

Never had a Harley though.

Ive still got an old camera collection, but I use a modern digital.

 

However, it might seem strange, but I have no interest in old knives or even new ones, I simply make the knives I need.

 

Im just an old fart at heart.

 

Roy

----- Original Message -----

From: dalmo mariano da silva junior

To: TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 6:28 PM

Subject: [TheBladeThrower] Old Machinery's magic

Roy

 

I always loved how old things works, the final Edge of an era makes outstanding technology, that can live throught time.

 

An example: the last Clippers were some of the most beautifull ships ever made...A racing Jaguar of the 50's and early 60's are, for me, a piece of art as a scupture....

 

I have a Nikon F that is Still ouststanding for taking pictures, even being 35 plus years old. I also own some old wristwatches, with mechanical movement...that are Very precise.

 

My favorite motorcycle (and I had lots of them) was a 1974 Yamaha TX 650, a very confortable bike and a pleasure to ride, it looked more or less like a Triumph Bonneville.

 

Would love to have it back, only today its a collector piece and worths lots of money.

 

About living in the past, well, I could manage it, only would like to have a Hot shower and as Charlie pointed, some help of modern medicine. But I believe I could hunt with a bow or an old Winchester....

 

Other thing that changed a lot (in this case, for Better) are Tennis Rackets, I have one made of laminated wood to decorate my wall, its a beautifull piece, but for sure the modern ones of carbon fiber are far much better....

 

Do you still own old cars? When I was a kid (Loooong time ago) my Dad owned Two English cars, an Austin A-70 and a Ford Consul...

 

Best regards

 

Dalmo

royhutchison <royhutchy2000@yahoo.co.uk> escreveu:

Ralph/Dalmo

 

Ive long since thought, that us guys/gals who like to throw knives/spears, and all the other wonderful olden day toys, we are really living in the wrong era.   I think most of us are born 100 years too late.    We are all really cowboys and Indians at heart.  

 

I love all the old things, cars, knives, bows and arrows, spears, guns, etc, mostly made to high standards, by hand, by craftsmen, with lifetime skills which are long gone in general, except the odd custom makes of which there are few.

 

Like Ralph, I too would be interested in how many of our members are like minded.

 

Roy

----- Original Message -----

From: Ralph Thorn

To: TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 1:38 AM

Subject: Re: [TheBladeThrower] A visit to a bowmaker

It occurs to me that archery has the same advantages over guns that knife throwing has: silence, and the fact that you don't use up your ammo. You can use your arrows over and over, unlike bullets, of course.

I'm curious to know how many of our members are also archers.


ert

Charles Anderson <charlesanderson@optushome.com.au> wrote:

Hi Guys,

It was said to me once that the bow has developed just as much as the hand gun.

Compound bows are far easier to manage than a straight bow, go past the break point of the compound bow and you can hold the string there for a very long time.  A 100 lb. longbow stays 100 lb., I don't know anyone that can hold 100 lb. long bow for very long.



Regards Charles from Oz
P.S.  Slap that wine maker friend of yours, wine tastes better from an oak barrel... imo.

dalmo mariano da silva junior wrote:

Hi, Folks

Today I went to a bowmakers house, he is famous for making longbows (English style) here, and he is a bowhunter and a former competition shooter.

What I found out:

- he said I'm pretty decent as an archer, I became proud cause I learned alone and tought I had lots of defects.

- He Prooved me that (look, He Is a longbows maker) compound bows are much better for any use, a much smaller bow can shot with more speed, and its more precise than any kind of old fashioned archery device.

(he also makes compound bows, some are able to shot at more than 100 ms second...).

The cruel truth is, you can Aim for more time and more confortably with a coumpound than with a flat/long/recurve bow.

I became saddened, but I Tried all of his bows and For sure the compounds can shot faster and better than the traditional ones/

 Sob, I also love cars with carburators, but they are not as good as fuel injected ones, looks that poor Dalmo is an old fashioned man....

Some time ago Roy told me compound bows are better, now I have to take my hat off to Him. To live and to learn...

Abraços

Old fashioned Dalmo

PS- I have a friend who is a winemaker, he is eighty three years old and have some barrels with more than 400 years in his farm, he said Stainless Steell barrels are as good or better than any old wood barrel, so even old people are learning with new technology...

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----- Original Message -----

From: dalmo mariano da silva junior

To: TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:15 PM

Subject: [TheBladeThrower] Old watches, old knives, old guys....

Roy

 

This is the first time I heard about Mudu watches and in a rapid search at Internet I found out that they are classics, whats there origin?

 

I got a 60 years old Omega that belonged to my dad, its automatic but with the seconds pointer not at the center of the dial, and I got another very old Omega silver pocket watch. And a diving Bulova from 1969, my dad also gave me it brand new when I was 14...the watch was Bigger than me!

 

Talking about cameras, I have two Nikons and a Rolleiflex from the 40's, all work perfectly - altought, as you do, I use a simple digital camer for daily tasks.

Tell me a bit more about your classic cars, I love to hear this kind of histories.

 

Other task, as you I'm not that fascinated for old knives, but I like old bows, there are some made in mid 60's that are so well finished as violins.

Laminated wood, you know, two collors...

 

Will send you some pics of my trashes to your private mail...

 

Best regards

Dalmo

royhutchison <royhutchy2000@...> escreveu:

Dalmo

 

Only recently have I sold one of my last classic cars.     Although I have 2 smallish cars to use everyday, I still have my chevy stepside truck, although the truck is not that old its a 1987 model, one of the newest ive had, usually my cars are much older.     But its too much hard work at my age to keep them in good condition.

 

I Have a watch collection, and wear a 60 year old "MuDu" automatic that ive worn for 51 years.

 

Ive just bought a 1876 year rimfire 9m revolver for my small collection.

 

Yes Dalmo, I had all the triumphs, as well as a Bonneville, and numerous other makes.

Never had a Harley though.

Ive still got an old camera collection, but I use a modern digital.

 

However, it might seem strange, but I have no interest in old knives or even new ones, I simply make the knives I need.

 

Im just an old fart at heart.

 

Roy

----- Original Message -----

From: dalmo mariano da silva junior

To: TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 6:28 PM

Subject: [TheBladeThrower] Old Machinery's magic

Roy

 

I always loved how old things works, the final Edge of an era makes outstanding technology, that can live throught time.

 

An example: the last Clippers were some of the most beautifull ships ever made...A racing Jaguar of the 50's and early 60's are, for me, a piece of art as a scupture....

 

I have a Nikon F that is Still ouststanding for taking pictures, even being 35 plus years old. I also own some old wristwatches, with mechanical movement...that are Very precise.

 

My favorite motorcycle (and I had lots of them) was a 1974 Yamaha TX 650, a very confortable bike and a pleasure to ride, it looked more or less like a Triumph Bonneville.

 

Would love to have it back, only today its a collector piece and worths lots of money.

 

About living in the past, well, I could manage it, only would like to have a Hot shower and as Charlie pointed, some help of modern medicine. But I believe I could hunt with a bow or an old Winchester....

 

Other thing that changed a lot (in this case, for Better) are Tennis Rackets, I have one made of laminated wood to decorate my wall, its a beautifull piece, but for sure the modern ones of carbon fiber are far much better....

 

Do you still own old cars? When I was a kid (Loooong time ago) my Dad owned Two English cars, an Austin A-70 and a Ford Consul...

 

Best regards

 

Dalmo

royhutchison <royhutchy2000@yahoo.co.uk> escreveu:

Ralph/Dalmo

 

Ive long since thought, that us guys/gals who like to throw knives/spears, and all the other wonderful olden day toys, we are really living in the wrong era.   I think most of us are born 100 years too late.    We are all really cowboys and Indians at heart.  

 

I love all the old things, cars, knives, bows and arrows, spears, guns, etc, mostly made to high standards, by hand, by craftsmen, with lifetime skills which are long gone in general, except the odd custom makes of which there are few.

 

Like Ralph, I too would be interested in how many of our members are like minded.

 

Roy

----- Original Message -----

From: Ralph Thorn

To: TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 1:38 AM

Subject: Re: [TheBladeThrower] A visit to a bowmaker

It occurs to me that archery has the same advantages over guns that knife throwing has: silence, and the fact that you don't use up your ammo. You can use your arrows over and over, unlike bullets, of course.

I'm curious to know how many of our members are also archers.


ert

Charles Anderson <charlesanderson@optushome.com.au> wrote:

Hi Guys,

It was said to me once that the bow has developed just as much as the hand gun.

Compound bows are far easier to manage than a straight bow, go past the break point of the compound bow and you can hold the string there for a very long time.  A 100 lb. longbow stays 100 lb., I don't know anyone that can hold 100 lb. long bow for very long.



Regards Charles from Oz
P.S.  Slap that wine maker friend of yours, wine tastes better from an oak barrel... imo.

dalmo mariano da silva junior wrote:

Hi, Folks

Today I went to a bowmakers house, he is famous for making longbows (English style) here, and he is a bowhunter and a former competition shooter.

What I found out:

- he said I'm pretty decent as an archer, I became proud cause I learned alone and tought I had lots of defects.

- He Prooved me that (look, He Is a longbows maker) compound bows are much better for any use, a much smaller bow can shot with more speed, and its more precise than any kind of old fashioned archery device.

(he also makes compound bows, some are able to shot at more than 100 ms second...).

The cruel truth is, you can Aim for more time and more confortably with a coumpound than with a flat/long/recurve bow.

I became saddened, but I Tried all of his bows and For sure the compounds can shot faster and better than the traditional ones/

 Sob, I also love cars with carburators, but they are not as good as fuel injected ones, looks that poor Dalmo is an old fashioned man....

Some time ago Roy told me compound bows are better, now I have to take my hat off to Him. To live and to learn...

Abraços

Old fashioned Dalmo

PS- I have a friend who is a winemaker, he is eighty three years old and have some barrels with more than 400 years in his farm, he said Stainless Steell barrels are as good or better than any old wood barrel, so even old people are learning with new technology...

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Ok I'll email you off list
Bill
--- In TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com, Charles Anderson <charlesanderson@...> wrote:

Hi Bill,
What would you charge to carve up a piece of wood I supply, and 

what is 

your turn around like? Contact me off list with a reply.
The paradox is hard for me to imagine, but I will endeavor to get 

it right.

There is a past time called combat archery, that's done here with 

low 

poundage bows, and the targets... well the targets are your 

opponents. 

The arrows sting :-(
Thanks regards Charles from Oz
Bill wrote:

Hey Charles
I've made a few Yew English Long bows but the wood is just a 

little 

to pricey for me so I don't keep it on hand often. I usually only 

use 

it when I have a custom order. I use alot of Osage, Ipe, and 

Hickory 

and most of the bows I build are bamboo backed reflex deflex style long bows. You can shoot around trees and objects to some degree if you understand just how much bend or paradox your arrows have. If you watch when you shoot you'll notice just how far away you have to 

be 

>from a tree to get the arrow's paradox to "bend" around it. We 

have 

some 3D courses here that you have to understand that to be able 

to 

hit the targets. You can always tell which ones they are by all 

the 

broken and shattered arrow shafts littering the ground ;o)
Thanks
Bill

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Only recently have I sold one of my last classic cars.     Although I have 2 smallish cars to use everyday, I still have my chevy stepside truck, although the truck is not that old its a 1987 model, one of the newest ive had, usually my cars are much older.     But its too much hard work at my age to keep them in good condition.

 

I Have a watch collection, and wear a 60 year old "MuDu" automatic that ive worn for 51 years.

 

Ive just bought a 1876 year rimfire 9m revolver for my small collection.

 

Yes Dalmo, I had all the triumphs, as well as a Bonneville, and numerous other makes.

Never had a Harley though.

Ive still got an old camera collection, but I use a modern digital.

 

However, it might seem strange, but I have no interest in old knives or even new ones, I simply make the knives I need.

 

Im just an old fart at heart.

 

Roy

----- Original Message -----

From: dalmo mariano da silva junior

To: TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 6:28 PM

Subject: [TheBladeThrower] Old Machinery's magic

Roy

 

I always loved how old things works, the final Edge of an era makes outstanding technology, that can live throught time.

 

An example: the last Clippers were some of the most beautifull ships ever made...A racing Jaguar of the 50's and early 60's are, for me, a piece of art as a scupture....

 

I have a Nikon F that is Still ouststanding for taking pictures, even being 35 plus years old. I also own some old wristwatches, with mechanical movement...that are Very precise.

 

My favorite motorcycle (and I had lots of them) was a 1974 Yamaha TX 650, a very confortable bike and a pleasure to ride, it looked more or less like a Triumph Bonneville.

 

Would love to have it back, only today its a collector piece and worths lots of money.

 

About living in the past, well, I could manage it, only would like to have a Hot shower and as Charlie pointed, some help of modern medicine. But I believe I could hunt with a bow or an old Winchester....

 

Other thing that changed a lot (in this case, for Better) are Tennis Rackets, I have one made of laminated wood to decorate my wall, its a beautifull piece, but for sure the modern ones of carbon fiber are far much better....

 

Do you still own old cars? When I was a kid (Loooong time ago) my Dad owned Two English cars, an Austin A-70 and a Ford Consul...

 

Best regards

 

Dalmo

royhutchison <royhutchy2000@yahoo.co.uk> escreveu:

Ralph/Dalmo

 

Ive long since thought, that us guys/gals who like to throw knives/spears, and all the other wonderful olden day toys, we are really living in the wrong era.   I think most of us are born 100 years too late.    We are all really cowboys and Indians at heart.  

 

I love all the old things, cars, knives, bows and arrows, spears, guns, etc, mostly made to high standards, by hand, by craftsmen, with lifetime skills which are long gone in general, except the odd custom makes of which there are few.

 

Like Ralph, I too would be interested in how many of our members are like minded.

 

Roy

----- Original Message -----

From: Ralph Thorn

To: TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 1:38 AM

Subject: Re: [TheBladeThrower] A visit to a bowmaker

It occurs to me that archery has the same advantages over guns that knife throwing has: silence, and the fact that you don't use up your ammo. You can use your arrows over and over, unlike bullets, of course.

I'm curious to know how many of our members are also archers.


ert

Charles Anderson <charlesanderson@optushome.com.au> wrote:

Hi Guys,

It was said to me once that the bow has developed just as much as the hand gun.

Compound bows are far easier to manage than a straight bow, go past the break point of the compound bow and you can hold the string there for a very long time.  A 100 lb. longbow stays 100 lb., I don't know anyone that can hold 100 lb. long bow for very long.



Regards Charles from Oz
P.S.  Slap that wine maker friend of yours, wine tastes better from an oak barrel... imo.

dalmo mariano da silva junior wrote:

Hi, Folks

Today I went to a bowmakers house, he is famous for making longbows (English style) here, and he is a bowhunter and a former competition shooter.

What I found out:

- he said I'm pretty decent as an archer, I became proud cause I learned alone and tought I had lots of defects.

- He Prooved me that (look, He Is a longbows maker) compound bows are much better for any use, a much smaller bow can shot with more speed, and its more precise than any kind of old fashioned archery device.

(he also makes compound bows, some are able to shot at more than 100 ms second...).

The cruel truth is, you can Aim for more time and more confortably with a coumpound than with a flat/long/recurve bow.

I became saddened, but I Tried all of his bows and For sure the compounds can shot faster and better than the traditional ones/

 Sob, I also love cars with carburators, but they are not as good as fuel injected ones, looks that poor Dalmo is an old fashioned man....

Some time ago Roy told me compound bows are better, now I have to take my hat off to Him. To live and to learn...

Abraços

Old fashioned Dalmo

PS- I have a friend who is a winemaker, he is eighty three years old and have some barrels with more than 400 years in his farm, he said Stainless Steell barrels are as good or better than any old wood barrel, so even old people are learning with new technology...

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From: dalmo mariano da silva junior

To: TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 6:28 PM

Subject: [TheBladeThrower] Old Machinery's magic

Roy

 

I always loved how old things works, the final Edge of an era makes outstanding technology, that can live throught time.

 

An example: the last Clippers were some of the most beautifull ships ever made...A racing Jaguar of the 50's and early 60's are, for me, a piece of art as a scupture....

 

I have a Nikon F that is Still ouststanding for taking pictures, even being 35 plus years old. I also own some old wristwatches, with mechanical movement...that are Very precise.

 

My favorite motorcycle (and I had lots of them) was a 1974 Yamaha TX 650, a very confortable bike and a pleasure to ride, it looked more or less like a Triumph Bonneville.

 

Would love to have it back, only today its a collector piece and worths lots of money.

 

About living in the past, well, I could manage it, only would like to have a Hot shower and as Charlie pointed, some help of modern medicine. But I believe I could hunt with a bow or an old Winchester....

 

Other thing that changed a lot (in this case, for Better) are Tennis Rackets, I have one made of laminated wood to decorate my wall, its a beautifull piece, but for sure the modern ones of carbon fiber are far much better....

 

Do you still own old cars? When I was a kid (Loooong time ago) my Dad owned Two English cars, an Austin A-70 and a Ford Consul...

 

Best regards

 

Dalmo

royhutchison <royhutchy2000@...> escreveu:

Ralph/Dalmo

 

Ive long since thought, that us guys/gals who like to throw knives/spears, and all the other wonderful olden day toys, we are really living in the wrong era.   I think most of us are born 100 years too late.    We are all really cowboys and Indians at heart.  

 

I love all the old things, cars, knives, bows and arrows, spears, guns, etc, mostly made to high standards, by hand, by craftsmen, with lifetime skills which are long gone in general, except the odd custom makes of which there are few.

 

Like Ralph, I too would be interested in how many of our members are like minded.

 

Roy

----- Original Message -----

From: Ralph Thorn

To: TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 1:38 AM

Subject: Re: [TheBladeThrower] A visit to a bowmaker

It occurs to me that archery has the same advantages over guns that knife throwing has: silence, and the fact that you don't use up your ammo. You can use your arrows over and over, unlike bullets, of course.

I'm curious to know how many of our members are also archers.


ert

Charles Anderson <charlesanderson@optushome.com.au> wrote:

Hi Guys,

It was said to me once that the bow has developed just as much as the hand gun.

Compound bows are far easier to manage than a straight bow, go past the break point of the compound bow and you can hold the string there for a very long time.  A 100 lb. longbow stays 100 lb., I don't know anyone that can hold 100 lb. long bow for very long.



Regards Charles from Oz
P.S.  Slap that wine maker friend of yours, wine tastes better from an oak barrel... imo.

dalmo mariano da silva junior wrote:

Hi, Folks

Today I went to a bowmakers house, he is famous for making longbows (English style) here, and he is a bowhunter and a former competition shooter.

What I found out:

- he said I'm pretty decent as an archer, I became proud cause I learned alone and tought I had lots of defects.

- He Prooved me that (look, He Is a longbows maker) compound bows are much better for any use, a much smaller bow can shot with more speed, and its more precise than any kind of old fashioned archery device.

(he also makes compound bows, some are able to shot at more than 100 ms second...).

The cruel truth is, you can Aim for more time and more confortably with a coumpound than with a flat/long/recurve bow.

I became saddened, but I Tried all of his bows and For sure the compounds can shot faster and better than the traditional ones/

 Sob, I also love cars with carburators, but they are not as good as fuel injected ones, looks that poor Dalmo is an old fashioned man....

Some time ago Roy told me compound bows are better, now I have to take my hat off to Him. To live and to learn...

Abraços

Old fashioned Dalmo

PS- I have a friend who is a winemaker, he is eighty three years old and have some barrels with more than 400 years in his farm, he said Stainless Steell barrels are as good or better than any old wood barrel, so even old people are learning with new technology...

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I am doing little or no progress in the nospin technique or the true
blade throw Roy alluded to here and on the great Throwzini website.
I must confess that I have a hard time forcing myself to stick to it
and after a few frustrating misses, I revert to my favourite one
full spin handle throw.
I am getting better at evaluating the right distance, though ( I
refuse to use markers on the ground to keep my distance sense
alive ) I begin to modulate the spinning period by altering the
trajectory of my hand and my body movements.
That gives me some freedom from a fixed throw distance, something
that is okay for showmen but inadequate in a martial context.
I am still a believer in the nospin approach and do not despair of
giving you happy news of my progress.
About going to events in Germany or elsewhere, I would go to meet
people with which I have made contact with before, on a forum for
example, but not in the hope of being lucky with getting acquainted
with total strangers.
Being homebound and sometimes coldly shy are flaws that play a part
here.
And yes I am also believing that I would like life in ancient times
and I am prone to idealize them.

Juan.
--- In TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com, "eralphthorn"
<eralphthorn@...> wrote:
>
> I noticed that the group now has over 100 members. In a couple of
> months we will be two years old.
>
> We've always been an "on and off" type of group (we tend to post in
> bursts), but if some of us are not as active as we once were,
might it
> be because we have actually accomplished many of the things we set
out
> to do? When the group started, Bobby and Dalmo were just beginning
to
> learn the no-spin, my dvd wasn't finished and nobody outside our
> little world had any way of really knowing what our type of
throwing
> even looked like, Roy was still giving beginner's type of pointers
to
> Dalmo on the blade throw; we were all ignorant of the family
> resemblance of our type of throwing to the Japanese and Russian
> schools; we still had a lot of discussions on basic knife design
> topics for our type of throwing...and so on and so forth. I think
Roy
> and I just had preserving the very existence of variable-distance
> knife throwing as our main goal in the start, but now we can pretty
> much take that for granted, since so many dedicated throwers around
> the world have taken it up.
>
> There's still a lot we want to get done over time, but when you
think
> about it, we really have come a long way so far...
>

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Stick with it, it takes time to learn to control the half-spin
(thebladethrow), from ranges of 4feet out to 30feet plus, and to guarantee
at least 98% sticks.

Dont use knives that are too short, or funny shapes, they make it very hard
to control at the long distances.      Heres a good tip to ease your
learning.      Get some steel square bar, at 10mm square, NOT ROUND BAR, and
cut them 13inchs long.   Put a point on one end and just lightly tape the
other end for 5 inchs to show a handle area.        The flat areas allow
perfect spin control, and will slide better than anything else, but
remember, ----IT IS NO GOOD UNLESS IT IS SQUARE MATERIAL.
Do that and then come back on site.

Roy
----- Original Message -----
From: "katagelan" <zaratt@...>
To: <TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 5:15 PM
Subject: [TheBladeThrower] Re: 100 members


>I am doing little or no progress in the nospin technique or the true
> blade throw Roy alluded to here and on the great Throwzini website.
> I must confess that I have a hard time forcing myself to stick to it
> and after a few frustrating misses, I revert to my favourite one
> full spin handle throw.
> I am getting better at evaluating the right distance, though ( I
> refuse to use markers on the ground to keep my distance sense
> alive ) I begin to modulate the spinning period by altering the
> trajectory of my hand and my body movements.
> That gives me some freedom from a fixed throw distance, something
> that is okay for showmen but inadequate in a martial context.
> I am still a believer in the nospin approach and do not despair of
> giving you happy news of my progress.
> About going to events in Germany or elsewhere, I would go to meet
> people with which I have made contact with before, on a forum for
> example, but not in the hope of being lucky with getting acquainted
> with total strangers.
> Being homebound and sometimes coldly shy are flaws that play a part
> here.
> And yes I am also believing that I would like life in ancient times
> and I am prone to idealize them.
>
> Juan.
> --- In TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com, "eralphthorn"
> <eralphthorn@...> wrote:
>>
>> I noticed that the group now has over 100 members. In a couple of
>> months we will be two years old.
>>
>> We've always been an "on and off" type of group (we tend to post in
>> bursts), but if some of us are not as active as we once were,
> might it
>> be because we have actually accomplished many of the things we set
> out
>> to do? When the group started, Bobby and Dalmo were just beginning
> to
>> learn the no-spin, my dvd wasn't finished and nobody outside our
>> little world had any way of really knowing what our type of
> throwing
>> even looked like, Roy was still giving beginner's type of pointers
> to
>> Dalmo on the blade throw; we were all ignorant of the family
>> resemblance of our type of throwing to the Japanese and Russian
>> schools; we still had a lot of discussions on basic knife design
>> topics for our type of throwing...and so on and so forth. I think
> Roy
>> and I just had preserving the very existence of variable-distance
>> knife throwing as our main goal in the start, but now we can pretty
>> much take that for granted, since so many dedicated throwers around
>> the world have taken it up.
>>
>> There's still a lot we want to get done over time, but when you
> think
>> about it, we  really have come a long way so far...
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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I am doing little or no progress in the nospin technique or the true
blade throw Roy alluded to here and on the great Throwzini website.
I must confess that I have a hard time forcing myself to stick to it
and after a few frustrating misses, I revert to my favourite one
full spin handle throw.
I am getting better at evaluating the right distance, though ( I
refuse to use markers on the ground to keep my distance sense
alive ) I begin to modulate the spinning period by altering the
trajectory of my hand and my body movements.
That gives me some freedom from a fixed throw distance, something
that is okay for showmen but inadequate in a martial context.
I am still a believer in the nospin approach and do not despair of
giving you happy news of my progress.
About going to events in Germany or elsewhere, I would go to meet
people with which I have made contact with before, on a forum for
example, but not in the hope of being lucky with getting acquainted
with total strangers.
Being homebound and sometimes coldly shy are flaws that play a part
here.
And yes I am also believing that I would like life in ancient times
and I am prone to idealize them.

  Juan.
--- In TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com, "eralphthorn"
<eralphthorn@...> wrote:
>
> I noticed that the group now has over 100 members. In a couple of
> months we will be two years old.
>
> We've always been an "on and off" type of group (we tend to post in
> bursts), but if some of us are not as active as we once were,
might it
> be because we have actually accomplished many of the things we set
out
> to do? When the group started, Bobby and Dalmo were just beginning
to
> learn the no-spin, my dvd wasn't finished and nobody outside our
> little world had any way of really knowing what our type of
throwing
> even looked like, Roy was still giving beginner's type of pointers
to
> Dalmo on the blade throw; we were all ignorant of the family
> resemblance of our type of throwing to the Japanese and Russian
> schools; we still had a lot of discussions on basic knife design
> topics for our type of throwing...and so on and so forth. I think
Roy
> and I just had preserving the very existence of variable-distance
> knife throwing as our main goal in the start, but now we can pretty
> much take that for granted, since so many dedicated throwers around
> the world have taken it up.
>
> There's still a lot we want to get done over time, but when you
think
> about it, we  really have come a long way so far...
>

The way I understand is that the inertia of the point makes the
arrow bend as the notched part is pushed forward by the string, so
that during the trajectory the arrows flexes and rights itself
several times, making a straight trajectory only an optical
illusion, the arrow is really progressing like a snake.
Very skilled archers might be able to use that snaking movement to
make the arrow avoid sufficiently narrow obstacles and hit targets
behind them.
A spinning thrown knife or axe could do the same kind of trick.
Note that that a too stiff arrow can be made more flexible by using
heavier heads.
--- In TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com, dalmo mariano da silva
junior <redatorfreelancer@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, Bill
>   I always tought the archers paradox was just a Straight
deviation to one side (left, in my case, as I'm dexter), never knew
it was an Arc movement, and that one can actually Use it for aming.
>   Crazy, to live and to learn, one learns Faster when talking to
our mad group, I think.
>   Thanks for one more lesson
>   Dalmo
>
> Bill <bowyer38@...> escreveu:
>           Hey Charlse
> I've made a few Yew English Long bows but the wood is just a
little
> to pricey for me so I don't keep it on hand often. I usually only
use
> it when I have a custom order. I use alot of Osage, Ipe, and
Hickory
> and most of the bows I build are bamboo backed reflex deflex style
> long bows.
>
> You can shoot around trees and objects to some degree if you
> understand just how much bend or paradox your arrows have. If you
> watch when you shoot you'll notice just how far away you have to
be
> from a tree to get the arrow's paradox to "bend" around it. We
have
> some 3D courses here that you have to understand that to be able
to
> hit the targets. You can always tell which ones they are by all
the
> broken and shattered arrow shafts littering the ground ;o)
>
> Thanks
> Bill
>
> --- In TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com, Charles Anderson
> <charlesanderson@> wrote:
> > Hi Bill,
> Yeah modern compound bows are almost a no-brainer. There is more
> skill involved, but for ease of use a compound is point and click.
A
> compound bow allows higher poundage weapons to be utilised by a
large
> number of people, well more than straight bows allow. In theory
you
> could have a manageable compound bow that far exceeded the
poundage
> of a manageable straight bow.
> I have two yew long bows in the works that should have a draw of
80
> _100lb, it depends on the way the bowyer makes them, he's done an
> excellent job so far with other billets. As the wood is reasonably
> difficult to get here (and expensive I might add), the bowyer is
> putting rawhide on the back (which means "never ever" get these
> wet). I too could get a compound, but I have my reasons for
getting
> straight bows.
> BTW the average historical English archer could fire 6 well aimed
> arrows per minute. When crossbows came onto the scene the archers
> demonstrated that they could get the same power by over extending
> their bows, basically sitting on the ground, both feet on the bow,
> both hands drawing the string... it wasn't very practical.
> Shooting around trees? Cool tell me how :-)
> Regards Charles from Oz
> P.S. You're in America? Make yew bows like Don Adams and sell them
> to us ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
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Ok
I'll email you off list
Bill

--- In TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com, Charles Anderson
<charlesanderson@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> What would you charge to carve up a piece of wood I supply, and
what is
> your turn around like?  Contact me off list with a reply.
>
> The paradox is hard for me to imagine, but I will endeavor to get
it right.
>
> There is a past time called combat archery, that's done here with
low
> poundage bows, and the targets... well the targets are your
opponents.
> The arrows sting :-(
>
>
>
> Thanks regards Charles from Oz
>
> Bill wrote:
>
> >Hey Charles
> >I've made a few Yew English Long bows but the wood is just a
little
> >to pricey for me so I don't keep it on hand often. I usually only
use
> >it when I have a custom order. I use alot of Osage, Ipe, and
Hickory
> >and most of the bows I build are bamboo backed reflex deflex style
> >long bows.
> >
> >You can shoot around trees and objects to some degree if you
> >understand just how much bend or paradox your arrows have. If you
> >watch when you shoot you'll notice just how far away you have to
be
> >from a tree to get the arrow's paradox to "bend" around it. We
have
> >some 3D courses here that you have to understand that to be able
to
> >hit the targets. You can always tell which ones they are by all
the
> >broken and shattered arrow shafts littering the ground ;o)
> >
> >Thanks
> >Bill
> >
>

Hi Bill,

What would you charge to carve up a piece of wood I supply, and what is
your turn around like?  Contact me off list with a reply.

The paradox is hard for me to imagine, but I will endeavor to get it right.

There is a past time called combat archery, that's done here with low
poundage bows, and the targets... well the targets are your opponents.
The arrows sting :-(



Thanks regards Charles from Oz

Bill wrote:

>Hey Charles
>I've made a few Yew English Long bows but the wood is just a little
>to pricey for me so I don't keep it on hand often. I usually only use
>it when I have a custom order. I use alot of Osage, Ipe, and Hickory
>and most of the bows I build are bamboo backed reflex deflex style
>long bows.
>
>You can shoot around trees and objects to some degree if you
>understand just how much bend or paradox your arrows have. If you
>watch when you shoot you'll notice just how far away you have to be
>from a tree to get the arrow's paradox to "bend" around it. We have
>some 3D courses here that you have to understand that to be able to
>hit the targets. You can always tell which ones they are by all the
>broken and shattered arrow shafts littering the ground ;o)
>
>Thanks
>Bill
>

Dalmo,

I haven't shot a bow since I broke the string in my little fiberglass recurve when I was a teenager. But I have been seriously thinking about taking it up. It seems like a wonderful activity for someone like me.

Of course I join you in wishing a speedy recovery to Bobby.

ert

dalmo mariano da silva junior <redatorfreelancer@yahoo.com.br> wrote:

Ralph

So now we are the Hundred Throwers, as in Roys Old Scotland there were the Hundred Pipers. Will we develop a whisky to honor it?

Yes, congrats to Roy and you and, a thing I like very much in this group is the open minded approach, we talk not only about no spin throwing, but also about economy, philosophy, knife making, hawks, and now bows and arrows, its great to find other people that shares the same tastes with us, and better to talk to people who Knows about the task, Bill and Charles are having interesting talks on traditional bows and I''m learning with them.

By the way, are you also an archer, Ralph?

Cheers to our Group, and wish a fast recovery to Bob

Dalmo

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Great job Roy and Ralph.

Bobby

(slowly healing)

 

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Ralph

So now we are the Hundred Throwers, as in Roys Old Scotland there were the Hundred Pipers. Will we develop a whisky to honor it?

Yes, congrats to Roy and you and, a thing I like very much in this group is the open minded approach, we talk not only about no spin throwing, but also about economy, philosophy, knife making, hawks, and now bows and arrows, its great to find other people that shares the same tastes with us, and better to talk to people who Knows about the task, Bill and Charles are having interesting talks on traditional bows and I''m learning with them.

By the way, are you also an archer, Ralph?

Cheers to our Group, and wish a fast recovery to Bob

Dalmo

PROFLY001@aol.com escreveu:

Great job Roy and Ralph.

Bobby

(slowly healing)

 

Bobby Branton
CEO
(Chief everything officer)

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Great job Roy and Ralph.

Bobby

(slowly healing)

 

Bobby Branton
CEO
(Chief everything officer)

Branton Knife Company

Success is going from failure to failure without a loss of enthusiasm.


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Hey Charlse
I've made a few Yew English Long bows but the wood is just a little
to pricey for me so I don't keep it on hand often. I usually only use
it when I have a custom order. I use alot of Osage, Ipe, and Hickory
and most of the bows I build are bamboo backed reflex deflex style
long bows.

You can shoot around trees and objects to some degree if you
understand just how much bend or paradox your arrows have. If you
watch when you shoot you'll notice just how far away you have to be
from a tree to get the arrow's paradox to "bend" around it. We have
some 3D courses here that you have to understand that to be able to
hit the targets. You can always tell which ones they are by all the
broken and shattered arrow shafts littering the ground ;o)

Thanks
Bill

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<charlesanderson@...> wrote:
> Hi Bill,
Yeah modern compound bows are almost a no-brainer. There is more
skill involved, but for ease of use a compound is point and click. A
compound bow allows higher poundage weapons to be utilised by a large
number of people, well more than straight bows allow. In theory you
could have a manageable compound bow that far exceeded the poundage
of a manageable straight bow.
I have two yew long bows in the works that should have a draw of 80
_100lb, it depends on the way the bowyer makes them, he's done an
excellent job so far with other billets. As the wood is reasonably
difficult to get here (and expensive I might add), the bowyer is
putting rawhide on the back (which means "never ever" get these
wet). I too could get a compound, but I have my reasons for getting
straight bows.
BTW the average historical English archer could fire 6 well aimed
arrows per minute. When crossbows came onto the scene the archers
demonstrated that they could get the same power by over extending
their bows, basically sitting on the ground, both feet on the bow,
both hands drawing the string... it wasn't very practical.
Shooting around trees? Cool tell me how :-)
Regards Charles from Oz
P.S. You're in America? Make yew bows like Don Adams and sell them
to us ;-)

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Hey Dalmo
My school's website is: www.montgomerymartialarts.com
If you go the the gallery section it will take you to a photobucket
site with alot of photos. Just look at the top and pick which sub
album you want to view.

Like I said, compounds are fine...just not what I'm into anymore.
I've hunted and killed almost everything there is to kill in the
southern United States with a 50 pound long bow so the high draw
weights just dont make since to me either. It's all about shot
placement not arrow speed. I do think you have to be a better, more
patient hunter with traditional equipment. You have to be willing to
work harder to get closer to the animal but that's why it's
called "hunting" and not "killing". Most guys only know how
to "shoot" animals..very few know how to "hunt" them anymore.

The carbon arrows are usually spined to stiff for traditional
equipment and just dont shoot that well to me. They are far more
durable than the wood arrows though. I build my own arrows though so
that's just something I'm use to dealing with.

Most of the guys around here use trigger releases and "fluffer" arrow
rest so shooting fast is just something they cant do. We do alot of
flight shooting (long distance) here and I can easily have three to
four arrows in air before the first one strikes the ground. I guess
if someone uses a compound bow instinctively they could possibly do
it...just never seen it done though.

Hope your doing well Dalmo!
Bill

--- In TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com, dalmo mariano da silva junior
<redatorfreelancer@...> wrote:
> Bill
> I also like instintive shooting and think one can controll the
archers paradox just watching where the first arrows went.
> I don lke either the stabilezers, laser sights and think trigger
releases are Not archery at all. To be honest, I dont know how to
tune a modern bow with all its devices, and dont like the way they
look with all these things hanged on them.
> About carbon arrows...well , they can flight longer and are more
precise and durable than wood ones...
I never tried to shot lots of arrows in sequence, why is it more
difficult with a compound bow than with a long bow? I thought, dued
to its shorter size, that a long bow could be more "conceleable"(the
way a bow can be "concealeable:) ) than a long bow...and easyer to
play with, I never owned one, I only have flat bows and recurve bows.
> I loved your site, and I Lost its address, can you please send it
to us? I believe the other friends will love to watch your bows...
> Best regards, nice to have you with us
> Dalmo

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Hey Charlse
I've made a few Yew English Long bows but the wood is just a little
to pricey for me so I don't keep it on hand often. I usually only use
it when I have a custom order. I use alot of Osage, Ipe, and Hickory
and most of the bows I build are bamboo backed reflex deflex style
long bows.

You can shoot around trees and objects to some degree if you
understand just how much bend or paradox your arrows have. If you
watch when you shoot you'll notice just how far away you have to be
from a tree to get the arrow's paradox to "bend" around it. We have
some 3D courses here that you have to understand that to be able to
hit the targets. You can always tell which ones they are by all the
broken and shattered arrow shafts littering the ground ;o)

Thanks
Bill

--- In TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com, Charles Anderson
<charlesanderson@...> wrote:
> Hi Bill,
Yeah modern compound bows are almost a no-brainer.  There is more
skill involved, but for ease of use a compound is point and click.  A
compound bow allows higher poundage weapons to be utilised by a large
number of people, well more than straight bows allow.  In theory you
could have a manageable compound bow that far exceeded the poundage
of a manageable straight bow.
I have two yew long bows in the works that should have a draw of 80
_100lb, it depends on the way the bowyer makes them, he's done an
excellent job so far with other billets.  As the wood is reasonably
difficult to get here (and expensive I might add), the bowyer is
putting  rawhide on the back (which means "never ever" get these
wet).  I too could get a compound, but I have my reasons for getting
straight bows.
BTW the average historical English archer could fire 6 well aimed
arrows  per minute.  When crossbows came onto the scene the archers
demonstrated  that they could get the same power by over extending
their bows, basically sitting on the ground, both feet on the bow,
both hands drawing the string... it wasn't very practical.
Shooting around trees?  Cool tell me how :-)
Regards Charles from Oz
P.S.  You're in America?  Make yew bows like Don Adams and sell them
to us ;-)

Hey Dalmo
My school's website is: www.montgomerymartialarts.com
If you go the the gallery section it will take you to a photobucket
site with alot of photos. Just look at the top and pick which sub
album you want to view.

Like I said, compounds are fine...just not what I'm into anymore.
I've hunted and killed almost everything there is to kill in the
southern United States with a 50 pound long bow so the high draw
weights just dont make since to me either. It's all about shot
placement not arrow speed. I do think you have to be a better, more
patient hunter with traditional equipment. You have to be willing to
work harder to get closer to the animal but that's why it's
called "hunting" and not "killing". Most guys only know how
to "shoot" animals..very few know how to "hunt" them anymore.

The carbon arrows are usually spined to stiff for traditional
equipment and just dont shoot that well to me. They are far more
durable than the wood arrows though. I build my own arrows though so
that's just something I'm use to dealing with.

Most of the guys around here use trigger releases and "fluffer" arrow
rest so shooting fast is just something they cant do. We do alot of
flight shooting (long distance) here and I can easily have three to
four arrows in air before the first one strikes the ground. I guess
if someone uses a compound bow instinctively they could possibly do
it...just never seen it done though.

Hope your doing well Dalmo!
Bill

--- In TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com, dalmo mariano da silva junior
<redatorfreelancer@...> wrote:
> Bill
>   I also like instintive shooting and think one can controll the
archers paradox just watching where the first arrows went.
>   I don lke either the stabilezers, laser sights and think trigger
releases are Not archery at all. To be honest, I dont know how to
tune a modern bow with all its devices, and dont like the way they
look with all these things hanged on them.
>   About carbon arrows...well , they can flight longer and are more
precise and durable than wood ones...
    I never tried to shot lots of arrows in sequence, why is it more
difficult with a compound bow than with a long bow? I thought, dued
to its shorter size, that a long bow could be more "conceleable"(the
way a bow can be "concealeable:) ) than a long bow...and easyer to
play with, I never owned one, I only have flat bows and recurve bows.
>   I loved your site, and I Lost its address, can you please send it
to us? I believe the other friends will love to watch your bows...
>   Best regards, nice to have you with us
>   Dalmo

I noticed that the group now has over 100 members. In a couple of
months we will be two years old.

We've always been an "on and off" type of group (we tend to post in
bursts), but if some of us are not as active as we once were, might it
be because we have actually accomplished many of the things we set out
to do? When the group started, Bobby and Dalmo were just beginning to
learn the no-spin, my dvd wasn't finished and nobody outside our
little world had any way of really knowing what our type of throwing
even looked like, Roy was still giving beginner's type of pointers to
Dalmo on the blade throw; we were all ignorant of the family
resemblance of our type of throwing to the Japanese and Russian
schools; we still had a lot of discussions on basic knife design
topics for our type of throwing...and so on and so forth. I think Roy
and I just had preserving the very existence of variable-distance
knife throwing as our main goal in the start, but now we can pretty
much take that for granted, since so many dedicated throwers around
the world have taken it up.

There's still a lot we want to get done over time, but when you think
about it, we  really have come a long way so far...

Ralph/Dalmo

 

Ive long since thought, that us guys/gals who like to throw knives/spears, and all the other wonderful olden day toys, we are really living in the wrong era.   I think most of us are born 100 years too late.    We are all really cowboys and Indians at heart.  

 

I love all the old things, cars, knives, bows and arrows, spears, guns, etc, mostly made to high standards, by hand, by craftsmen, with lifetime skills which are long gone in general, except the odd custom makes of which there are few.

 

Like Ralph, I too would be interested in how many of our members are like minded.

 

Roy

----- Original Message -----

From: Ralph Thorn

To: TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 1:38 AM

Subject: Re: [TheBladeThrower] A visit to a bowmaker

It occurs to me that archery has the same advantages over guns that knife throwing has: silence, and the fact that you don't use up your ammo. You can use your arrows over and over, unlike bullets, of course.

I'm curious to know how many of our members are also archers.


ert

Charles Anderson <charlesanderson@optushome.com.au> wrote:

Hi Guys,

It was said to me once that the bow has developed just as much as the hand gun.

Compound bows are far easier to manage than a straight bow, go past the break point of the compound bow and you can hold the string there for a very long time.  A 100 lb. longbow stays 100 lb., I don't know anyone that can hold 100 lb. long bow for very long.



Regards Charles from Oz
P.S.  Slap that wine maker friend of yours, wine tastes better from an oak barrel... imo.

dalmo mariano da silva junior wrote:

Hi, Folks

Today I went to a bowmakers house, he is famous for making longbows (English style) here, and he is a bowhunter and a former competition shooter.

What I found out:

- he said I'm pretty decent as an archer, I became proud cause I learned alone and tought I had lots of defects.

- He Prooved me that (look, He Is a longbows maker) compound bows are much better for any use, a much smaller bow can shot with more speed, and its more precise than any kind of old fashioned archery device.

(he also makes compound bows, some are able to shot at more than 100 ms second...).

The cruel truth is, you can Aim for more time and more confortably with a coumpound than with a flat/long/recurve bow.

I became saddened, but I Tried all of his bows and For sure the compounds can shot faster and better than the traditional ones/

 Sob, I also love cars with carburators, but they are not as good as fuel injected ones, looks that poor Dalmo is an old fashioned man....

Some time ago Roy told me compound bows are better, now I have to take my hat off to Him. To live and to learn...

Abraços

Old fashioned Dalmo

PS- I have a friend who is a winemaker, he is eighty three years old and have some barrels with more than 400 years in his farm, he said Stainless Steell barrels are as good or better than any old wood barrel, so even old people are learning with new technology...

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I've been a bow maker for aroung 15 years now. I only make all wooden
bows. I once shot competively on the 3D compound circuit but it just
grew old with me. Draw reduction cams, stabalizers, laser sights,
trigger releases, carbon arrows...just made archery to easy. Don't
get me wrong, for anyone who is only concerned with acuracy a
compound bow is the way to go. I just get far more out of archery
than that though.

To me, traditional archers are the better archers. No sights,
instinctive aiming, and true draw weights just make someone a better
archer to me. There is a reason that you see people like Byron
Furgason shooting through wedding rings, asprins thrown in the air
and the flames off candles and they are always using traditional
eqipment.

You can't shoot a compound bow the way you can traditionl equipment
either. You can shoot probably 3 to 4 arrows in the time a good
compound shooter can shoot one. You can also be in just about any
postion and shoot a traditional bow...try shooting a compound bow
lying on your stomach or back. A good traditonal archer can even use
the arrow's paradox to shoot around objects. To me, there's just alot
more skill envolved in being a traditonal archer.

Ok..I'll go back in my hole now. You guys are right about one thing.
I was definitly born in the wrong time. HAAHAHA

Just wanted to throw my two cents in.
Bill

--- In TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com, Charles Anderson
<charlesanderson@...> wrote:
>> In my case try 1000 past :-D
> > I'd love to live in the distant past, but with one proviso, that
I could
> take a good doctor and an endless supply of modern medicines ;-)
>
>
> Regards Charles from Oz
> P.S. Some things I do just "feel" right :-)
> P.P.S. For those interested <http://www.slinging.org/> ... am
wondering
> how to safely "sling" a knife :-\
>
> royhutchison wrote:
>
> > Ralph/Dalmo
> >
> > Ive long since thought, that us guys/gals who like to throw
> > knives/spears, and all the other wonderful olden day toys, we are
> > really living in the wrong era. I think most of us are born 100
> > years too late. We are all really cowboys and Indians at
heart.
> >
> > I love all the old things, cars, knives, bows and arrows, spears,
> > guns, etc, mostly made to high standards, by hand, by craftsmen,
with
> > lifetime skills which are long gone in general, except the odd
custom
> > makes of which there are few.
> >
> > Like Ralph, I too would be interested in how many of our members
are
> > like minded.
> >
> > Roy
>

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Hi Bill,

Yeah modern compound bows are almost a no-brainer.  There is more skill
involved, but for ease of use a compound is point and click.  A compound
bow allows higher poundage weapons to be utilised by a large number of
people, well more than straight bows allow.  In theory you could have a
manageable compound bow that far exceeded the poundage of a manageable
straight bow.

I have two yew long bows in the works that should have a draw of 80 -
100 lb, it depends on the way the bowyer makes them, he's done an
excellent job so far with other billets.  As the wood is reasonably
difficult to get here (and expensive I might add), the bowyer is putting
rawhide on the back (which means "never ever" get these wet).  I too
could get a compound, but I have my reasons for getting straight bows.

BTW the average historical English archer could fire 6 well aimed arrows
per minute.  When crossbows came onto the scene the archers demonstrated
that they could get the same power by over extending their bows,
basically sitting on the ground, both feet on the bow, both hands
drawing the string... it wasn't very practical.

Shooting around trees?  Cool tell me how :-)



Regards Charles from Oz
P.S.  You're in America?  Make yew bows like Don Adams and sell them to
us ;-)

Bill wrote:

>I've been a bow maker for aroung 15 years now. I only make all wooden
>bows. I once shot competively on the 3D compound circuit but it just
>grew old with me. Draw reduction cams, stabalizers, laser sights,
>trigger releases, carbon arrows...just made archery to easy. Don't
>get me wrong, for anyone who is only concerned with acuracy a
>compound bow is the way to go. I just get far more out of archery
>than that though.
>
>To me, traditional archers are the better archers. No sights,
>instinctive aiming, and true draw weights just make someone a better
>archer to me. There is a reason that you see people like Byron
>Furgason shooting through wedding rings, asprins thrown in the air
>and the flames off candles and they are always using traditional
>eqipment.
>
>You can't shoot a compound bow the way you can traditionl equipment
>either. You can shoot probably 3 to 4 arrows in the time a good
>compound shooter can shoot one. You can also be in just about any
>postion and shoot a traditional bow...try shooting a compound bow
>lying on your stomach or back. A good traditonal archer can even use
>the arrow's paradox to shoot around objects. To me, there's just alot
>more skill envolved in being a traditonal archer.
>
>Ok..I'll go back in my hole now. You guys are right about one thing.
>I was definitly born in the wrong time. HAAHAHA
>
>Just wanted to throw my two cents in.
>Bill
>
>
>

I've been a bow maker for aroung 15 years now. I only make all wooden
bows. I once shot competively on the 3D compound circuit but it just
grew old with me. Draw reduction cams, stabalizers, laser sights,
trigger releases, carbon arrows...just made archery to easy. Don't
get me wrong, for anyone who is only concerned with acuracy a
compound bow is the way to go. I just get far more out of archery
than that though.

To me, traditional archers are the better archers. No sights,
instinctive aiming, and true draw weights just make someone a better
archer to me. There is a reason that you see people like Byron
Furgason shooting through wedding rings, asprins thrown in the air
and the flames off candles and they are always using traditional
eqipment.

You can't shoot a compound bow the way you can traditionl equipment
either. You can shoot probably 3 to 4 arrows in the time a good
compound shooter can shoot one. You can also be in just about any
postion and shoot a traditional bow...try shooting a compound bow
lying on your stomach or back. A good traditonal archer can even use
the arrow's paradox to shoot around objects. To me, there's just alot
more skill envolved in being a traditonal archer.

Ok..I'll go back in my hole now. You guys are right about one thing.
I was definitly born in the wrong time. HAAHAHA

Just wanted to throw my two cents in.
Bill



--- In TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com, Charles Anderson
<charlesanderson@...> wrote:
>> In my case try 1000 past :-D
> > I'd love to live in the distant past, but with one proviso, that
I could
> take a good doctor and an endless supply of modern medicines ;-)
>
>
> Regards Charles from Oz
> P.S.  Some things I do just "feel" right :-)
> P.P.S.  For those interested <http://www.slinging.org/> ... am
wondering
> how to safely "sling" a knife :-\
>
> royhutchison wrote:
>
> > Ralph/Dalmo
> >
> > Ive long since thought, that us guys/gals who like to throw
> > knives/spears, and all the other wonderful olden day toys, we are
> > really living in the wrong era.   I think most of us are born 100
> > years too late.    We are all really cowboys and Indians at
heart.
> >
> > I love all the old things, cars, knives, bows and arrows, spears,
> > guns, etc, mostly made to high standards, by hand, by craftsmen,
with
> > lifetime skills which are long gone in general, except the odd
custom
> > makes of which there are few.
> >
> > Like Ralph, I too would be interested in how many of our members
are
> > like minded.
> >
> > Roy
>

Ralph/Dalmo

 

Ive long since thought, that us guys/gals who like to throw knives/spears, and all the other wonderful olden day toys, we are really living in the wrong era.   I think most of us are born 100 years too late.    We are all really cowboys and Indians at heart.  

 

I love all the old things, cars, knives, bows and arrows, spears, guns, etc, mostly made to high standards, by hand, by craftsmen, with lifetime skills which are long gone in general, except the odd custom makes of which there are few.

 

Like Ralph, I too would be interested in how many of our members are like minded.

 

Roy

----- Original Message -----

From: Ralph Thorn

To: TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 1:38 AM

Subject: Re: [TheBladeThrower] A visit to a bowmaker

It occurs to me that archery has the same advantages over guns that knife throwing has: silence, and the fact that you don't use up your ammo. You can use your arrows over and over, unlike bullets, of course.

I'm curious to know how many of our members are also archers.


ert

Charles Anderson <charlesanderson@...> wrote:

Hi Guys,

It was said to me once that the bow has developed just as much as the hand gun.

Compound bows are far easier to manage than a straight bow, go past the break point of the compound bow and you can hold the string there for a very long time.  A 100 lb. longbow stays 100 lb., I don't know anyone that can hold 100 lb. long bow for very long.



Regards Charles from Oz
P.S.  Slap that wine maker friend of yours, wine tastes better from an oak barrel... imo.

dalmo mariano da silva junior wrote:

Hi, Folks

Today I went to a bowmakers house, he is famous for making longbows (English style) here, and he is a bowhunter and a former competition shooter.

What I found out:

- he said I'm pretty decent as an archer, I became proud cause I learned alone and tought I had lots of defects.

- He Prooved me that (look, He Is a longbows maker) compound bows are much better for any use, a much smaller bow can shot with more speed, and its more precise than any kind of old fashioned archery device.

(he also makes compound bows, some are able to shot at more than 100 ms second...).

The cruel truth is, you can Aim for more time and more confortably with a coumpound than with a flat/long/recurve bow.

I became saddened, but I Tried all of his bows and For sure the compounds can shot faster and better than the traditional ones/

 Sob, I also love cars with carburators, but they are not as good as fuel injected ones, looks that poor Dalmo is an old fashioned man....

Some time ago Roy told me compound bows are better, now I have to take my hat off to Him. To live and to learn...

Abraços

Old fashioned Dalmo

PS- I have a friend who is a winemaker, he is eighty three years old and have some barrels with more than 400 years in his farm, he said Stainless Steell barrels are as good or better than any old wood barrel, so even old people are learning with new technology...

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