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Re: [TheBladeThrower] Hawks

Hi, Tom
I tried Everything, from pre World War II heavy German hatchet to out of the shelf 'domestic"hatchets and I got a tournment tomahawk Scott Gracia gave me, this one is Pretty good, but my favorites now are the small and Light ones the old bladesmith forget for me.
I never Touched these Vietnans hawks but I'm sure they perform great, and for sure an All steel hawk have the advantage of Never having a broken handle!
Best regards
Dalmo

tom <suthincomfort@...> escreveu:
i have one of the little hunters hatchets that used to stick pretty good it's got a 3/4 pound head with a 3" cutting edge. i much prefer a tomahawk for throwing purposes and have had a vietnam hawk designed by pete lagana that threw pretty darn well . i will one day have to get another one just due to their light weight and balence. right now i have two one a kids hawk from a ball pein hammer and a  (hc) rr spike made into one.  tom

royhutchison <royhutchy2000@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Dalmo
 
The chopper throw is not really a no spin, it sort of does a 90 degree turn.    It only works with the sharp edge upwards, try it the other way and it goes all skew-wiff.
 
All I do is like I do with the knives.   Streach out the throw with a little handle slide.
Its not very spectacular, just a little fun.
 
Roy
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Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 3:55 AM
Subject: [TheBladeThrower] Hawks

Roy, I had the same problem using these "normal" choppers you can buy in the stores, then I had the idea of Cuttin off part of theyr head, reducing its weigh and thus reducing the destrution of my target. I did in a way I "re-designed"the thing, so I dont lost much of its blade.
Then I found an old bladesmith close to my city who made me a set of Smaller hawks, I designed them and he forged them for me, these ones not only perform better, but are also easyer to throw, to stick an destroy even Less the targets.
Will send you a picture, maybe it can help you.
Comparing knives to hawks is like comparing sport cars to Big pick-ups, both are funny but very different, as you pointed.
Now, a question
In your "no spin", do you hold the chopper by its Head????
Abraços
Dalmo

royhutchison <royhutchy2000@yahoo.co.uk> escreveu:
Dalmo
 
Although I dont do it very often, throwing choppers (hawks) is very pleasing.    Seeing these great lumps of steel with long wooden handles thud into the wood is very impressive.    Comparred to the ballet type throw of the knives, the hawks seem aggressive to say the least, especially when they stick and lift the whole block of wood off the board.    The only trouble is they destroy my wooden knife blocks, splitting the blocks with ease.     I suppose I could make some lighter choppers, instead of the cheapo hatchets we can buy from our builders supplys that are very heavy.
 
I might just make a set and see how they go.     Its possible to throw them with the sharp side pointed up, in a sort of no spin mode out to 14 feet or so, with them being lighter, this might allow a longer throw. I will try it.
 
Roy
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 4:25 PM
Subject: [TheBladeThrower] Throwing swords

Charles, Ralph, Roy
I have thrown swords (Light ones, like a rapier and a katana) from No spin, One spin And Half spin - in this case, I used a VERY THICK leather glove, this one workers use, for obvious reasons - I like to keep  my fingers attached to my hand).
The three ways are possible, but I dont know if one can handle a Heavy, Mid-age sword for a one spin, or worst, for a blade throw.
When I throw them no spin, I use the same way Ralph uses, I dont know if one can throw them as a spear, I know very few about spears but looks that you have to handle them in theyr middle, in the center of gravity, so you problably will have to use gloves, too.
But the spins throwing Are possible, in an Overhand throw, cause,  as Ralph pointed, an underhand throw will make the sword hit the ground (maybe one can throw it while standing on a chair or a ladder (small stair???dont know the right word in English).But it will look ridiculous...
Would like to talk more about this task
Best regards
Dalmo

royhutchison <royhutchy2000@yahoo.co.uk> escreveu:
Charles,
 
I have never had any swords, except an old rapier some years ago.    Ive always been a knife man myself.       The longest blades I ever had were two world war One bayonets, that were standard issue with the armys Enfield 303cal rifle.     After the war they made these bayonets redundant in favor of the 7 inch spike bayonet, assuming that the spike would mimic a bullet hole and therefore be more likely to create a casualty rather than a death, and thereby giving the enemy more problems with wounded than dead.    As far as I can remember, the bladed bayonet was with an 18 inch blade, and I did throw these a few times, but soon got fed up with it and cut the blades to knife length.
 
I would imagine, with a little practice, a 3feet long blade could be thrown like a spear for a reasonable distance.
 
Roy
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: [TheBladeThrower] New members

I've got a project in mind, but it's only in its planning stages at the moment.

I like to toss around the occasional spear, or francisca, but I was thinking the other day that it would be cool to throw swords, basically whip it out of its scabbard and fling-stick.

A sword is basically a 3' minimum blade with cross grip and pommel.  Historical examples aren't designed for this purpose. 

The way the sword draws would mean an underhanded throw (would that be 1/2 spin???), or if drawn and thrown over arm would that be a 1/2 spin of full spin?

Anyone already done this yet, or have experience with throwing 3' blades?



Regards Charles from Oz


royhutchison wrote:
To all those new bladethrower members who have not posted any articles yet.   maybe you could let us know how you are getting on with our half-spin, no-spin methods, and what type of knives/spikes, etc, you are using.   Also, what sort of target set-ups have you made/bought/aquired, etc.
 
Even if you have not made much, or any progress, we would still like to hear about it.  No need to do a lengthly post, a few words is ok, but please do let  us know, as it helps others who need pointers as well, and we all learn from it.
 
Come on guys/gals, get writing.
 
Roy
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To all those new bladethrower members who have not posted any articles yet. maybe you could let us know how you are getting on with our half-spin, no-spin...
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will put a few pics of a couple i'm throwing right now . one is my version of a sandbar style bowie it balences as close to center as i could make it. as it...
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I've got a project in mind, but it's only in its planning stages at the moment. I like to toss around the occasional spear, or francisca, but I was thinking...
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Charles, The longest single clip in my dvd consists of me hitting twelve (I think) consecutive throws with two swords, both over 3 feet in length. I was...
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Cool :-)...
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from my small amount of experience a sword threw similar to an axe , tom Ralph Thorn <eralphthorn@...> wrote: Charles, The longest single clip in my dvd...
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As for things i throw my whole collection is online at http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p205/shurikentsukai/Shuriken%20Collection/?start=all and also i have...
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a lot of that stuff is fun to throw was making them way back when they were'nt availible much in the states . Blinkhyphen182@... wrote: As for things i...
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Charles, I have never had any swords, except an old rapier some years ago. Ive always been a knife man myself. The longest blades I ever had were two...
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The Aussie WWI sword bayonets were a nightmare apparently (I'm not that old ;-) ), they were too long, stab someone, then use your foot to kick them off, a...
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Charles, Ralph, Roy I have thrown swords (Light ones, like a rapier and a katana) from No spin, One spin And Half spin - in this case, I used a VERY THICK...
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Dalmo Although I dont do it very often, throwing choppers (hawks) is very pleasing. Seeing these great lumps of steel with long wooden handles thud into the...
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Roy, I had the same problem using these "normal" choppers you can buy in the stores, then I had the idea of Cuttin off part of theyr head, reducing its weigh...
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Dalmo The chopper throw is not really a no spin, it sort of does a 90 degree turn. It only works with the sharp edge upwards, try it the other way and it...
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Roy Can you send me a picture of your grip? Abraço dalmo royhutchison <royhutchy2000@...> escreveu: Dalmo The chopper throw is not really a no spin,...
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i have one of the little hunters hatchets that used to stick pretty good it's got a 3/4 pound head with a 3" cutting edge. i much prefer a tomahawk for...
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Hi, Tom I tried Everything, from pre World War II heavy German hatchet to out of the shelf 'domestic"hatchets and I got a tournment tomahawk Scott Gracia gave...
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the vietnam tomahawk has a wooden handle. the spike works very well for penetration and the flat can be used as an impact weapon on several occasions i carried...
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Sorry, Tom, think I mistook the Vietnan Hawk with other models I saw that have steel handles. Even the new version by Cold Steel Also have a wood handle. And,...
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i've worked with this one between 15 and 20 feet dalmo mariano da silva junior <redatorfreelancer@...> wrote: Sorry, Tom, think I mistook the...
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Tom, my one spin is around 13 feet,cause my hawks have short handles, and my 2 spin is around 26 feet, looks that in Hawk throwing if you double the distance...
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a burb of little rock arkansas12 miles west on interstate 30 dalmo mariano da silva junior <redatorfreelancer@...> wrote: Tom, my one spin is...
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Dalmo I try on the weekend. Roy ... From: dalmo mariano da silva junior To: TheBladeThrower@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 10:23 PM Subject: Re:...
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how wrong they were . the enfield bayonet (spike type) was made to wound badly causeing a casualty that would have to be carried off the field and dealt with...
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Charles You could kill easily with the spike bayonet, but the objective of making the spike was because it was more likely to wound than kill. How this...
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