From: got2@... <got2@...> Subject: Re: [TeamBultaco] Old Vet Humor - 107 Signs You're "Old-School" Motocross - classic - from Chuck Berhain over on the Suzuki PE group To: TeamBultaco@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 9:42 AM
Hoo boy, did you stir some memories. I can relate to around 80% of your "Remember When" list. I can also add some more.
Yes, I rode an enduro motorcycle in an MX race. It was my first one in 1969 on a 250 Bultaco Matador.
However, before that I rode a Honda 160 twin in enduros around the South.
When I got serious about MotoCross, yes I actually started in the 175 class. Not just any 175 but a Bultaco Sherpa S. Nothing in the 175 class could touch it for power and handling. If I didn't win it wasn't the fault of the bike.
Then, I did something stupid. I bought a 1970 Suzuki TM 400. The orange tank one. The one Joel Robert said no one could ride. Well, he was right about me. I tried. I really did. Got AMA MX license and rode the Florida Winter-AM in 1970. Rode Daytona against the likes of Jammin' Jimmy Weinert, Gary Bailey, Barry Higgins, Carl Cranke and other hot shots of the day. Did pretty good but my name and photo did not make the cover of Cycle News and that 400 almost made me old before my time. Worst motocross bike ever built. EVER.
In 1971 I bought two yellow tank CZs: a 250 and a 380. Then I did some serious racing, in both classes. The 380 had more power than sane people could handle. Best bikes for toughness ever built. I remember flag starts when you put your clutch hand on your helmet with the gearbox in neutral. Other riders had to reach for the clutch, put it in gear then release the clutch and take off. By then I was gone as you just crammed the CZ into first and you were off. Bullet-proof transmission.
Yes, I've been hit by bungees. One particular track made a release and put it in the middle of the track where one bungee went right and one went left. Each bungee had a steel pin that went through a slot that was connected to a release that was operated by the starters' foot. If you were next to the release it was ok. If you were on the end and left pretty quick, the steel pin would slap you somewhere you didn't want to be slapped. Ouch.
I rode in jeans, lace-up boots, real goatskin leathers, Full Bores, owned lots of gloves with the rubber strip on the fingers, open face helmets with and without Jofa mouthgards, regular bills and duck bills, sweat shirts, jerseys, T-shirts, and old fashion baseball catcher-style chest protectors. Rode against the best of the best in the day, and some of the worst riders too. You know the ones, won't get out of your way and ususally cause you to crash. I have ridden in a farmer's field, beside drag strips, on the side of the highway, and on professional courses. I have ridden with goggles and without, used tear-aways when they came out. And the only time I ever got hurt was riding for a stinking trophy. Broke a collar bone one crash and dislocated my shoulder at another crash. All for a trophy. Never got hurt in a professional race.
My heroes of the day were DeCoster (never liked Robert as he was an ass), Torsten Hallman, Aberg, and Jeraslav Falta. I will never forget Falta being robbed of the world championship. Dirty deal. I would still like to own a Falta replica some day.
Right now I have mostly enduro bikes and compete in AHRMA cross country but I do own a 135 Pursang. I am in the process of restoring it and then it will be for sale as it is too nice for me to ride. If I want to go MX racing, I will ride one of my Huskys. Or one of my Can Ams.
Thanks for the memories and thanks for letting me share. By the way, I will be 64 in October. If any of you ride AHRMA cross country, I will be at Westpoint, TN in September, then the Reunion Ride in Ohio, then at Barber's in Birmingham, Alabama. I would love to meet anyone who wants to stop by. Just look for the sign that says "Bama Gary."
Bama Gary
1. You remember when they invented whoops. 2. You remember when the water-truck was a wooden cask hauled behind two musk oxen. Yes, oxen, dammit. 3. You've been thwacked by the surgical neoprene strand of a rubber-band start. 4. You well know the difference between a Combat Wombat, a Pursang and a Cappra. 5. You begged your dad to "forward-mount" your Elsinore's rear shocks. 6. Then you begged more for him to "lay 'em down". 7. You're familiar with Skunk Works and their whole get-up. 8. You badly desired a DG radial head for your RM-125. 9. You knew 'em as Pentons - before they were Katoomers. 10. You recall Team Tamm and L.O.P. 11. You idolized Marty Smith. 12. You knew Micky Dymond rode a Husky pretty damn well. 13. You were stunned when you heard Gerrit Wolsink became a dentist. 14. You never missed ABC's Wide World Of Sports in case they featured the USGP at Carlsbad. 15. You remember when
hot-dogs were the only "health-food" available at the track 16. You dreamt of manhandling a Maico 501 17. You remember Jones goggles and Carrera's, too. 18. Ake Jonnson and Jack Van Velthoven are household names to you. 19. You've pulled serious dirt out of your nose two days after a National. 20. You've camped at both Mount Morris and Unadilla and lived to tell of it.
21. You wished you'd never bought those Scott plastic boots. But you did. 22. You've owned a duckbill visor or two. 23. You've worn football pads in a motocross race. 24. You've worn race-gloves with pieces of tires attached to the fingers. 25. You remember when box-vans were "factory". 26. You're making stupid-money selling your old motocross stuff as "vintage" on ****. 27. You used to think Heikki Mikkola was the baddest dude on the planet. In fact, part of you thinks he still is. 28. You've pulled the lights and blinkers off an enduro
bike to race motocross. 29. You recall seeing Jim Gianatsis' name over every dirt-bike photo in the '70's. 30. Mr. Know-It-All both entertained you and pissed you off. 31. And you know who Lovely Louella is and where Chicken Licks Raceway isn't. 32. You once asked your dad if you could get a Bel-Ray tattoo. 33. Your mom ironed on a Champion spark-plug patch to your jean-jacket. 34. You've written letters to companies begging for stickers. 35. You were there when tear-offs were invented. 36. You fondly recall the Wrangler Dash For Cash in Supercross races. 37. You owned at least one "Do It In The Dirt" shirt. 38. You tear up while recalling the sound of the start of a 500 National. 39. You blasted your Zeppelin on 8-tracks on the way to the races. 40. In later years, you rode home listening to the Eagles on these revolutionary cassettes. 41. You witnessed a Supercross in Pittsburgh. 42. You saved up
forever for that DG water-cooled head and front-plate radiator deal from DG. 43. You're familiar with the "Flying W", WFO and the GYDBT, amongst other terms. 44. You've purchased both Bassani and Hooker pipes for your Yamaha DT-250. 45. You installed a white fender-extender on your '76 YZ-125. Just because. 46. You used to think it nutty to pay a buck-twenny- five for race-gas. 47. You recall MXA magazine having a ROY (Rider Of The Year) that was awarded a truck. 48. You're familiar with front-falling gates, too. 49. And flag starts. Uh huh. 50. Some tracks even had traffic-light starts ! Whaaaaa ? 51. You recall the van craze and its link to mx. 52. Rex Staten always kind of scared you a bit. 53. You still think of Mike LaRocco as " that fast kid from Indiana." 54. You've ridden a bike or two up and into a pick-up truck bed. 55. You've also wadded it up performing this stunt. 56. You've raced the
Open-Class. On a real Open-bike. 57. You remember the Harley-Davidson MX team. 58. You could never afford those FOX-Shox. But you desired them, badly. 59. You remember Bob Hannah's Open-Bike fan-club at Unadilla. 60. You remember an AMA National in St. Pete, Florida. 61. You thought the Husky chrome tanks were extremely sexy. 62. You were pretty sure the Hodaka transmissions were made of plastic. 63. You always knew that, by the'90's, Supercross would be live on TV on Saturday nights. 64. You used to bring your girlfriend and her dog to the races. That didn't last. 65. You recall Cycle News East & West versions. "We don't care how the hell they do it in California" - that was the East version's battlecry. Odd times, indeed. 66. You knew Can-Am's had rotary valves and no head gaskets. 67. You knew Ricky's boss had worked in the sport pretty seriously prior to getting into big-rig management. 68. You
not only owned a 175, you actually raced the 175 class! 69. You still have your JOFA mouthpiece. 70. You called your pants "leathers" - even if they weren't. 71. You always wore a kidney-belt. You just did. 72. You've seen a Maico 490 Sand Spider shred the knobs off. 73. You know who "Super Hunky" is. 74. You're familiar with terms like "Full-Floater" , "Unitrak", "Monoshock" and groovy. 75. You remember the DATSUN USGP Of Motocross 76. Debruzer was some kind of handlebar pad endorsed by "De-MAN", right? 77. Tommy Benolkin's name rings a bell with you. 78. You actually attended the Kansas City Supercross. 79. You were there when Darrell Schultz won Daytona on his Chris Haines prepped CR250. 80. You knew Steve Wise was a motorcycling Mr. Do-It-All. 81. You loved watching Jimmy Ellis at the Atlanta Supercross By Wrangler on his Honda. 82. You liked those Dunlop K190's, you really did. 83. For many
years it was only Metzelers for you though. 84. You did give Trelleborg's a brief try. 85. And Hi-Point's Red-Dot tires. (Hannah endorsed !) 86. You were at that 1982 Loretta Lynn's by Kawasaki. 25 classes total. 87. You've actually left a motocross race in a Ford Pinto towing a 3 rail Holsclaw trailer, by golly. 88. You've heard of both Bauers: Willi and Steve. 89. You had subscriptions to Modern Cycle & Popular Cycling. 90. You've heard the term "Maico-Breako" a time or two. 91. You would have given your left buttock for a pair of those "hi-zoot" Simons Upside-Down forks! 92. You've seen white KTM's with red-frames. 93. You actually owned a bike-cover for your machine at one point. No, really, you did. 94. You always wanted to put a 44mm Mikuni carburetor on something. Anything. 95. You knew Josh Hansen's dad raced a bit. 96. You bought a roost-boost bottle for your bike. Supposedly
it straightened out the powerband or something. 97. You worked that Impact-driver like nobody's business. No Phillips-stripping for you, my brother. 98. The name Torsten Hallman was familiar to you, just like you knew well the Gunnar-Gasser throttle. Hell, everybody did. 99. You've broke more than one chain in a day. And you always carried extra master-links. You had to. 100. You knew, that if you only had five-bucks to get home on, you could get four burgers from Mickey-D's and five gallons of gas for your Econoline van. True. 101. Back then, a rhythm-section was a drummer and a bass player. 102. You wore your socks out and over your boots and your shoulder-pads under your shirt. 103. You thought Tortelli and Pastrana were things you found at an Italian deli. 104. Your buddy wore an "I'm with stupid" shirt. 105. You had, sporadically, one sleazy girlfriend that would wear that "Slave" T-shirt. That
chick was fun. 106. You were introduced to Danny Laporte yet were too tongue-tied and mesmerized to speak. 107. You hazily recall there being a small bridge that the riders had to negotiate in the '70's at Unadilla
Chuck B.
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Hoo boy, did you stir some memories. I can relate to around 80% of your "Remember When" list. I can also add some more.
Yes, I rode an enduro motorcycle in an MX race. It was my first one in 1969 on a 250 Bultaco Matador.
However, before that I rode a Honda 160 twin in enduros around the South.
When I got serious about MotoCross, yes I actually started in the 175 class. Not just any 175 but a Bultaco Sherpa S. Nothing in the 175 class could touch it for power and handling. If I didn't win it wasn't the fault of the bike.
Then, I did something stupid. I bought a 1970 Suzuki TM 400. The orange tank one. The one Joel Robert said no one could ride. Well, he was right about me. I tried. I really did. Got AMA MX license and rode the Florida Winter-AM in 1970. Rode Daytona against the likes of Jammin' Jimmy Weinert, Gary Bailey, Barry Higgins, Carl Cranke and other hot shots of the day. Did pretty good but my name and photo did not make the cover of Cycle News and that 400 almost made me old before my time. Worst motocross bike ever built. EVER.
In 1971 I bought two yellow tank CZs: a 250 and a 380. Then I did some serious racing, in both classes. The 380 had more power than sane people could handle. Best bikes for toughness ever built. I remember flag starts when you put your clutch hand on your helmet with the gearbox in neutral. Other riders had to reach for the clutch, put it in gear then release the clutch and take off. By then I was gone as you just crammed the CZ into first and you were off. Bullet-proof transmission.
Yes, I've been hit by bungees. One particular track made a release and put it in the middle of the track where one bungee went right and one went left. Each bungee had a steel pin that went through a slot that was connected to a release that was operated by the starters' foot. If you were next to the release it was ok. If you were on the end and left pretty quick, the steel pin would slap you somewhere you didn't want to be slapped. Ouch.
I rode in jeans, lace-up boots, real goatskin leathers, Full Bores, owned lots of gloves with the rubber strip on the fingers, open face helmets with and without Jofa mouthgards, regular bills and duck bills, sweat shirts, jerseys, T-shirts, and old fashion baseball catcher-style chest protectors. Rode against the best of the best in the day, and some of the worst riders too. You know the ones, won't get out of your way and ususally cause you to crash. I have ridden in a farmer's field, beside drag strips, on the side of the highway, and on professional courses. I have ridden with goggles and without, used tear-aways when they came out. And the only time I ever got hurt was riding for a stinking trophy. Broke a collar bone one crash and dislocated my shoulder at another crash. All for a trophy. Never got hurt in a professional race.
My heroes of the day were DeCoster (never liked Robert as he was an ass), Torsten Hallman, Aberg, and Jeraslav Falta. I will never forget Falta being robbed of the world championship. Dirty deal. I would still like to own a Falta replica some day.
Right now I have mostly enduro bikes and compete in AHRMA cross country but I do own a 135 Pursang. I am in the process of restoring it and then it will be for sale as it is too nice for me to ride. If I want to go MX racing, I will ride one of my Huskys. Or one of my Can Ams.
Thanks for the memories and thanks for letting me share. By the way, I will be 64 in October. If any of you ride AHRMA cross country, I will be at Westpoint, TN in September, then the Reunion Ride in Ohio, then at Barber's in Birmingham, Alabama. I would love to meet anyone who wants to stop by. Just look for the sign that says "Bama Gary."
Bama Gary
1. You remember when they invented whoops.
2. You remember when the water-truck was a wooden cask hauled behind two
musk oxen. Yes, oxen, dammit.
3. You've been thwacked by the surgical neoprene strand of a rubber-band
start.
4. You well know the difference between a Combat Wombat, a Pursang and a
Cappra.
5. You begged your dad to "forward-mount" your Elsinore's rear shocks.
6. Then you begged more for him to "lay 'em down".
7. You're familiar with Skunk Works and their whole get-up.
8. You badly desired a DG radial head for your RM-125.
9. You knew 'em as Pentons - before they were Katoomers.
10. You recall Team Tamm and L.O.P.
11. You idolized Marty Smith.
12. You knew Micky Dymond rode a Husky pretty damn well.
13. You were stunned when you heard Gerrit Wolsink became a dentist.
14. You never missed ABC's Wide World Of Sports in case they featured the
USGP at Carlsbad.
15. You remember when hot-dogs were the only "health-food" available at the
track
16. You dreamt of manhandling a Maico 501
17. You remember Jones goggles and Carrera's, too.
18. Ake Jonnson and Jack Van Velthoven are household names to you.
19. You've pulled serious dirt out of your nose two days after a National.
20. You've camped at both Mount Morris and Unadilla and lived to tell of it.
21. You wished you'd never bought those Scott plastic boots. But you did.
22. You've owned a duckbill visor or two.
23. You've worn football pads in a motocross race.
24. You've worn race-gloves with pieces of tires attached to the fingers.
25. You remember when box-vans were "factory".
26. You're making stupid-money selling your old motocross stuff as "vintage"
on ****.
27. You used to think Heikki Mikkola was the baddest dude on the planet. In
fact, part of you thinks he still is.
28. You've pulled the lights and blinkers off an enduro bike to race
motocross.
29. You recall seeing Jim Gianatsis' name over every dirt-bike photo in the
'70's.
30. Mr. Know-It-All both entertained you and pissed you off.
31. And you know who Lovely Louella is and where Chicken Licks Raceway
isn't.
32. You once asked your dad if you could get a Bel-Ray tattoo.
33. Your mom ironed on a Champion spark-plug patch to your jean-jacket.
34. You've written letters to companies begging for stickers.
35. You were there when tear-offs were invented.
36. You fondly recall the Wrangler Dash For Cash in Supercross races.
37. You owned at least one "Do It In The Dirt" shirt.
38. You tear up while recalling the sound of the start of a 500 National.
39. You blasted your Zeppelin on 8-tracks on the way to the races.
40. In later years, you rode home listening to the Eagles on these
revolutionary cassettes.
41. You witnessed a Supercross in Pittsburgh.
42. You saved up forever for that DG water-cooled head and front-plate
radiator deal from DG.
43. You're familiar with the "Flying W", WFO and the GYDBT, amongst other
terms.
44. You've purchased both Bassani and Hooker pipes for your Yamaha DT-250.
45. You installed a white fender-extender on your '76 YZ-125. Just because.
46. You used to think it nutty to pay a buck-twenny- five for race-gas.
47. You recall MXA magazine having a ROY (Rider Of The Year) that was
awarded a truck.
48. You're familiar with front-falling gates, too.
49. And flag starts. Uh huh.
50. Some tracks even had traffic-light starts ! Whaaaaa ?
51. You recall the van craze and its link to mx.
52. Rex Staten always kind of scared you a bit.
53. You still think of Mike LaRocco as " that fast kid from Indiana."
54. You've ridden a bike or two up and into a pick-up truck bed.
55. You've also wadded it up performing this stunt.
56. You've raced the Open-Class. On a real Open-bike.
57. You remember the Harley-Davidson MX team.
58. You could never afford those FOX-Shox. But you desired them, badly.
59. You remember Bob Hannah's Open-Bike fan-club at Unadilla.
60. You remember an AMA National in St. Pete, Florida.
61. You thought the Husky chrome tanks were extremely sexy.
62. You were pretty sure the Hodaka transmissions were made of plastic.
63. You always knew that, by the'90's, Supercross would be live on TV on
Saturday nights.
64. You used to bring your girlfriend and her dog to the races. That didn't
last.
65. You recall Cycle News East & West versions. "We don't care how the hell
they do it in California" - that was the East version's battlecry. Odd
times, indeed.
66. You knew Can-Am's had rotary valves and no head gaskets.
67. You knew Ricky's boss had worked in the sport pretty seriously prior to
getting into big-rig management.
68. You not only owned a 175, you actually raced the 175 class!
69. You still have your JOFA mouthpiece.
70. You called your pants "leathers" - even if they weren't.
71. You always wore a kidney-belt. You just did.
72. You've seen a Maico 490 Sand Spider shred the knobs off.
73. You know who "Super Hunky" is.
74. You're familiar with terms like "Full-Floater" , "Unitrak", "Monoshock"
and groovy.
75. You remember the DATSUN USGP Of Motocross
76. Debruzer was some kind of handlebar pad endorsed by "De-MAN", right?
77. Tommy Benolkin's name rings a bell with you.
78. You actually attended the Kansas City Supercross.
79. You were there when Darrell Schultz won Daytona on his Chris Haines
prepped CR250.
80. You knew Steve Wise was a motorcycling Mr. Do-It-All.
81. You loved watching Jimmy Ellis at the Atlanta Supercross By Wrangler on
his Honda.
82. You liked those Dunlop K190's, you really did.
83. For many years it was only Metzelers for you though.
84. You did give Trelleborg's a brief try.
85. And Hi-Point's Red-Dot tires. (Hannah endorsed !)
86. You were at that 1982 Loretta Lynn's by Kawasaki. 25 classes total.
87. You've actually left a motocross race in a Ford Pinto towing a 3 rail
Holsclaw trailer, by golly.
88. You've heard of both Bauers: Willi and Steve.
89. You had subscriptions to Modern Cycle & Popular Cycling.
90. You've heard the term "Maico-Breako" a time or two.
91. You would have given your left buttock for a pair of those "hi-zoot"
Simons Upside-Down forks!
92. You've seen white KTM's with red-frames.
93. You actually owned a bike-cover for your machine at one point. No,
really, you did.
94. You always wanted to put a 44mm Mikuni carburetor on something.
Anything.
95. You knew Josh Hansen's dad raced a bit.
96. You bought a roost-boost bottle for your bike. Supposedly it
straightened out the powerband or something.
97. You worked that Impact-driver like nobody's business. No
Phillips-stripping for you, my brother.
98. The name Torsten Hallman was familiar to you, just like you knew well
the Gunnar-Gasser throttle. Hell, everybody did.
99. You've broke more than one chain in a day. And you always carried extra
master-links. You had to.
100. You knew, that if you only had five-bucks to get home on, you could get
four burgers from Mickey-D's and five gallons of gas for your Econoline van.
True.
101. Back then, a rhythm-section was a drummer and a bass player.
102. You wore your socks out and over your boots and your shoulder-pads
under your shirt.
103. You thought Tortelli and Pastrana were things you found at an Italian
deli.
104. Your buddy wore an "I'm with stupid" shirt.
105. You had, sporadically, one sleazy girlfriend that would wear that
"Slave" T-shirt. That chick was fun.
106. You were introduced to Danny Laporte yet were too tongue-tied and
mesmerized to speak.
107. You hazily recall there being a small bridge that the riders had to
negotiate in the '70's at Unadilla
Chuck B.
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OK, I'm 55, so I'll add/share this..
I remember when I was a Sophmore in High School and I had a 1970 Kawasaki 100cc
Trail Boss w/ a 10 speed gearbox, 5 for street and 5 for dirt. I told my parents
I'd use it to go school and I could put my books on the rack of the bike. Soon
later the lights came off and an expansion chamber come on!
Then a friend comes over early one Sunday morning and says, "Hey JJ, want to go
to the Inter-AM MX at Hall's/Haul's Ranch in So. San Jose"?? I said whats an
Inter-AM MX? So he explained and I have the most vivid memory of then "1969/1970
World 500cc MX GP Champion" Bengt Aberg from Sweden on his "Works GP 360cc
Varna".. He flew off a 40ft. drop-of and then jammed up the next hill like it
was nothing with such smoothnes!!. The day was overcast and the track was loamy
& muddy at places. He was closely pursued by the new Factory Suzukis with Joel
Robert and Olle Peterson.. Roger DeCoster was on a CZ still as he won the World
Championship in 71',72,73', 75' & 76' on a Suzuki...
After that I had to start racing MX and sold the Kawasaki 100 and bought a used
69' Bultaco 250 Pursang, then a 71' Varna 250 GP 4-speeder, then a 73' Montessa
VR 250, (great Bike) and my last bike then was a 75' GP Husky 6-speeder.. I quit
racing/riding cold turkey at the beginning of 77' and had to get serious about
school & career..!! I rode against Billy Grossi at a Hare Scrambles event at
Laguna Seca once, we were close to each other on a long straight-away.. He beat
me of course later. That was in 71'. Today I'm an Airline Pilot.
Last April 09' a friend of mine got me into Vintage MX...When he told me about
it I said, "Vintage MX", "What's that"???? Now I own a 75 Bultaco GP 250 Pursang
and I'm almost done restoring a 76' Husky 250 GP...It sure is fun remembering
"Back in the day"..!!
JJ
--- On Wed, 8/26/09, Rick <alazgr8@...> wrote:
From: Rick <alazgr8@...>
Subject: Re: [TeamBultaco] Re: Old Vet Humor - 107 Signs You're "Old-School"
Motocross - classic - from Chuck Berhain over on the Suzuki PE group
To: TeamBultaco@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 11:18 PM
I remember when...
1. Saddleback didn't have a starting gate.
2. Escape Country used rubberband (surgical tubing) starts
3. You could race every day or night in the L.A. & OC area
4. Most guys rode with lace up lineman boots
5. Guys raced with sweat shirts and weren't out of place
6. Most tracks offered 100cc, & 175cc race classes
I'll have to think of some others.
Rick
--- On Wed, 8/26/09, bultacoandy125pursa ng <andymoto@pacbell. net> wrote:
From: bultacoandy125pursa ng <andymoto@pacbell. net>
Subject: [TeamBultaco] Re: Old Vet Humor - 107 Signs You're "Old-School"
Motocross - classic - from Chuck Berhain over on the Suzuki PE group
To: TeamBultaco@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 8:57 PM
Neat stuff....I did some of my own; maybe others want to share.
When current Hangtown track was called McGills Cycle Park.
Walking thru a Nationals pits without credentials or thrown out.
Being at the last Sacramento Mile at the old State Fairgrounds.
Roost Factory was/is a famous aftermarket company. Damn divorces.
The Latest Poop by Papa Wealey in CN West at least.
Those bracket/hoop racks you put on rear fender of the family car when you got
your driver license to transport your bike to and fro.
Milkcrates used for bike stands and for Magoo to get on his 250CZ.
Riding spots a dime a dozen; even ride to your spot(s).
K-Mart use to sell minibikes called Steen.
You watched "On Any Sunday" at the theater.
Know the "Magoo Double" at Saddleback.
Plymouth Hangtowns(Thanks Emerson family) every first April weekend.
The 3 30 minute moto National experiment.( maybe was 20 min motos).
When SX and MX points
combined for a National champion.
Pat Richter and Steve Wise raced some trick Moto-X-Fox RM 125s.
Rick Johnson a local Expert at 12.
Stopping for a beer at Namur GP.
Pete Szylagi.
MXA's first issue.
More than 1,000 AMA Pro Licenses issued that some riders had to add a letter to
their number.
You got trophies instead of 100% expert payback in Expert class.
When it meant something to be your districts blue plate #1.
Thought it would be fun to share ones you remember too. Peace.
-- In TeamBultaco@ yahoogroups. com, Rick <alazgr8@... > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 1. You remember when they invented whoops.
> 2. You remember when the water-truck was a wooden cask hauled behind two
> musk oxen. Yes, oxen, dammit.
> 3. You've
been thwacked by the surgical neoprene strand of a rubber-band
> start.
> 4. You well know the difference between a Combat Wombat, a Pursang and a
> Cappra.
> 5. You begged your dad to "forward-mount" your Elsinore's rear shocks.
> 6. Then you begged more for him to "lay 'em down".
> 7. You're familiar with Skunk Works and their whole get-up.
> 8. You badly desired a DG radial head for your RM-125.
> 9. You knew 'em as Pentons - before they were Katoomers.
> 10. You recall Team Tamm and L.O.P.
> 11. You idolized Marty Smith.
> 12. You knew Micky Dymond rode a Husky pretty damn well.
> 13. You were stunned when you heard Gerrit Wolsink became a dentist.
> 14. You never missed ABC's Wide World Of Sports in case they featured the
> USGP at Carlsbad.
> 15. You remember when hot-dogs were the only "health-food" available at the
> track
> 16. You dreamt of
manhandling a Maico 501
> 17. You remember Jones goggles and Carrera's, too.
> 18. Ake Jonnson and Jack Van Velthoven are household names to you.
> 19. You've pulled serious dirt out of your nose two days after a National.
> 20. You've camped at both Mount Morris and Unadilla and lived to tell of it.
>
> 21. You wished you'd never bought those Scott plastic boots. But you did.
> 22. You've owned a duckbill visor or two.
> 23. You've worn football pads in a motocross race.
> 24. You've worn race-gloves with pieces of tires attached to the fingers.
> 25. You remember when box-vans were "factory".
> 26. You're making stupid-money selling your old motocross stuff as "vintage"
> on ****.
> 27. You used to think Heikki Mikkola was the baddest dude on the planet. In
> fact, part of you thinks he still is.
> 28. You've pulled the lights and blinkers off an enduro bike to
race
> motocross.
> 29. You recall seeing Jim Gianatsis' name over every dirt-bike photo in the
> '70's.
> 30. Mr. Know-It-All both entertained you and pissed you off.
> 31. And you know who Lovely Louella is and where Chicken Licks Raceway
> isn't.
> 32. You once asked your dad if you could get a Bel-Ray tattoo.
> 33. Your mom ironed on a Champion spark-plug patch to your jean-jacket.
> 34. You've written letters to companies begging for stickers.
> 35. You were there when tear-offs were invented.
> 36. You fondly recall the Wrangler Dash For Cash in Supercross races.
> 37. You owned at least one "Do It In The Dirt" shirt.
> 38. You tear up while recalling the sound of the start of a 500 National.
> 39. You blasted your Zeppelin on 8-tracks on the way to the races.
> 40. In later years, you rode home listening to the Eagles on these
> revolutionary
cassettes.
> 41. You witnessed a Supercross in Pittsburgh.
> 42. You saved up forever for that DG water-cooled head and front-plate
> radiator deal from DG.
> 43. You're familiar with the "Flying W", WFO and the GYDBT, amongst other
> terms.
> 44. You've purchased both Bassani and Hooker pipes for your Yamaha DT-250.
> 45. You installed a white fender-extender on your '76 YZ-125. Just because.
> 46. You used to think it nutty to pay a buck-twenny- five for race-gas.
> 47. You recall MXA magazine having a ROY (Rider Of The Year) that was
> awarded a truck.
> 48. You're familiar with front-falling gates, too.
> 49. And flag starts. Uh huh.
> 50. Some tracks even had traffic-light starts ! Whaaaaa ?
> 51. You recall the van craze and its link to mx.
> 52. Rex Staten always kind of scared you a bit.
> 53. You still think of Mike LaRocco as " that fast kid from
Indiana."
> 54. You've ridden a bike or two up and into a pick-up truck bed.
> 55. You've also wadded it up performing this stunt.
> 56. You've raced the Open-Class. On a real Open-bike.
> 57. You remember the Harley-Davidson MX team.
> 58. You could never afford those FOX-Shox. But you desired them, badly.
> 59. You remember Bob Hannah's Open-Bike fan-club at Unadilla.
> 60. You remember an AMA National in St. Pete, Florida.
> 61. You thought the Husky chrome tanks were extremely sexy.
> 62. You were pretty sure the Hodaka transmissions were made of plastic.
> 63. You always knew that, by the'90's, Supercross would be live on TV on
> Saturday nights.
> 64. You used to bring your girlfriend and her dog to the races. That didn't
> last.
> 65. You recall Cycle News East & West versions. "We don't care how the hell
> they do it in California" - that was the East
version's battlecry. Odd
> times, indeed.
> 66. You knew Can-Am's had rotary valves and no head gaskets.
> 67. You knew Ricky's boss had worked in the sport pretty seriously prior to
> getting into big-rig management.
> 68. You not only owned a 175, you actually raced the 175 class!
> 69. You still have your JOFA mouthpiece.
> 70. You called your pants "leathers" - even if they weren't.
> 71. You always wore a kidney-belt. You just did.
> 72. You've seen a Maico 490 Sand Spider shred the knobs off.
> 73. You know who "Super Hunky" is.
> 74. You're familiar with terms like "Full-Floater" , "Unitrak", "Monoshock"
> and groovy.
> 75. You remember the DATSUN USGP Of Motocross
> 76. Debruzer was some kind of handlebar pad endorsed by "De-MAN", right?
> 77. Tommy Benolkin's name rings a bell with you.
> 78. You actually attended the Kansas City Supercross.
>
79. You were there when Darrell Schultz won Daytona on his Chris Haines
> prepped CR250.
> 80. You knew Steve Wise was a motorcycling Mr. Do-It-All.
> 81. You loved watching Jimmy Ellis at the Atlanta Supercross By Wrangler on
> his Honda.
> 82. You liked those Dunlop K190's, you really did.
> 83. For many years it was only Metzelers for you though.
> 84. You did give Trelleborg's a brief try.
> 85. And Hi-Point's Red-Dot tires. (Hannah endorsed !)
> 86. You were at that 1982 Loretta Lynn's by Kawasaki. 25 classes total.
> 87. You've actually left a motocross race in a Ford Pinto towing a 3 rail
> Holsclaw trailer, by golly.
> 88. You've heard of both Bauers: Willi and Steve.
> 89. You had subscriptions to Modern Cycle & Popular Cycling.
> 90. You've heard the term "Maico-Breako" a time or two.
> 91. You would have given your left buttock for a pair of those
"hi-zoot"
> Simons Upside-Down forks!
> 92. You've seen white KTM's with red-frames.
> 93. You actually owned a bike-cover for your machine at one point. No,
> really, you did.
> 94. You always wanted to put a 44mm Mikuni carburetor on something.
> Anything.
> 95. You knew Josh Hansen's dad raced a bit.
> 96. You bought a roost-boost bottle for your bike. Supposedly it
> straightened out the powerband or something.
> 97. You worked that Impact-driver like nobody's business. No
> Phillips-stripping for you, my brother.
> 98. The name Torsten Hallman was familiar to you, just like you knew well
> the Gunnar-Gasser throttle. Hell, everybody did.
> 99. You've broke more than one chain in a day. And you always carried extra
> master-links. You had to.
> 100. You knew, that if you only had five-bucks to get home on, you could get
> four burgers from
Mickey-D's and five gallons of gas for your Econoline van.
> True.
> 101. Back then, a rhythm-section was a drummer and a bass player.
> 102. You wore your socks out and over your boots and your shoulder-pads
> under your shirt.
> 103. You thought Tortelli and Pastrana were things you found at an Italian
> deli.
> 104. Your buddy wore an "I'm with stupid" shirt.
> 105. You had, sporadically, one sleazy girlfriend that would wear that
> "Slave" T-shirt. That chick was fun.
> 106. You were introduced to Danny Laporte yet were too tongue-tied and
> mesmerized to speak.
> 107. You hazily recall there being a small bridge that the riders had to
> negotiate in the '70's at Unadilla
>
> Chuck B.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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2. Escape Country used rubberband (surgical tubing) starts
3. You could race every day or night in the L.A. & OC area
4. Most guys rode with lace up lineman boots
5. Guys raced with sweat shirts and weren't out of place
6. Most tracks offered 100cc, & 175cc race classes
I'll have to think of some others.
Rick
--- On Wed, 8/26/09, bultacoandy125pursang <andymoto@...> wrote:
From: bultacoandy125pursang <andymoto@...> Subject: [TeamBultaco] Re: Old Vet Humor - 107 Signs You're "Old-School" Motocross - classic - from Chuck Berhain over on the Suzuki PE group To: TeamBultaco@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 8:57 PM
Neat stuff....I did some of my own; maybe others want to share.
When current Hangtown track was called McGills Cycle Park. Walking thru a Nationals pits without credentials or thrown out. Being at the last Sacramento Mile at the old State Fairgrounds. Roost Factory was/is a famous aftermarket company. Damn divorces. The Latest Poop by Papa Wealey in CN West at least. Those bracket/hoop racks you put on rear fender of the family car when you got your driver license to transport your bike to and fro. Milkcrates used for bike stands and for Magoo to get on his 250CZ. Riding spots a dime a dozen; even ride to your spot(s). K-Mart use to sell minibikes called Steen. You watched "On Any Sunday" at the theater. Know the "Magoo Double" at Saddleback. Plymouth Hangtowns(Thanks Emerson family) every first April weekend. The 3 30 minute moto National experiment.( maybe was 20 min motos). When SX and MX points
combined for a National champion. Pat Richter and Steve Wise raced some trick Moto-X-Fox RM 125s. Rick Johnson a local Expert at 12. Stopping for a beer at Namur GP. Pete Szylagi. MXA's first issue. More than 1,000 AMA Pro Licenses issued that some riders had to add a letter to their number. You got trophies instead of 100% expert payback in Expert class. When it meant something to be your districts blue plate #1.
Thought it would be fun to share ones you remember too. Peace.
-- In TeamBultaco@ yahoogroups. com, Rick <alazgr8@... > wrote: > > > > > > > 1. You remember when they invented whoops. > 2. You remember when the water-truck was a wooden cask hauled behind two >
musk oxen. Yes, oxen, dammit. > 3. You've been thwacked by the surgical neoprene strand of a rubber-band > start. > 4. You well know the difference between a Combat Wombat, a Pursang and a > Cappra. > 5. You begged your dad to "forward-mount" your Elsinore's rear shocks. > 6. Then you begged more for him to "lay 'em down". > 7. You're familiar with Skunk Works and their whole get-up. > 8. You badly desired a DG radial head for your RM-125. > 9. You knew 'em as Pentons - before they were Katoomers. > 10. You recall Team Tamm and L.O.P. > 11. You idolized Marty Smith. > 12. You knew Micky Dymond rode a Husky pretty damn well. > 13. You were stunned when you heard Gerrit Wolsink became a dentist. > 14. You never missed ABC's Wide World Of Sports in case they featured the > USGP at Carlsbad. > 15. You remember when hot-dogs were the only "health-food" available
at the > track > 16. You dreamt of manhandling a Maico 501 > 17. You remember Jones goggles and Carrera's, too. > 18. Ake Jonnson and Jack Van Velthoven are household names to you. > 19. You've pulled serious dirt out of your nose two days after a National. > 20. You've camped at both Mount Morris and Unadilla and lived to tell of it. > > 21. You wished you'd never bought those Scott plastic boots. But you did. > 22. You've owned a duckbill visor or two. > 23. You've worn football pads in a motocross race. > 24. You've worn race-gloves with pieces of tires attached to the fingers. > 25. You remember when box-vans were "factory". > 26. You're making stupid-money selling your old motocross stuff as "vintage" > on ****. > 27. You used to think Heikki Mikkola was the baddest dude on the planet. In > fact, part of you thinks he still is. > 28. You've pulled
the lights and blinkers off an enduro bike to race > motocross. > 29. You recall seeing Jim Gianatsis' name over every dirt-bike photo in the > '70's. > 30. Mr. Know-It-All both entertained you and pissed you off. > 31. And you know who Lovely Louella is and where Chicken Licks Raceway > isn't. > 32. You once asked your dad if you could get a Bel-Ray tattoo. > 33. Your mom ironed on a Champion spark-plug patch to your jean-jacket. > 34. You've written letters to companies begging for stickers. > 35. You were there when tear-offs were invented. > 36. You fondly recall the Wrangler Dash For Cash in Supercross races. > 37. You owned at least one "Do It In The Dirt" shirt. > 38. You tear up while recalling the sound of the start of a 500 National. > 39. You blasted your Zeppelin on 8-tracks on the way to the races. > 40. In later years, you rode home listening to the
Eagles on these > revolutionary cassettes. > 41. You witnessed a Supercross in Pittsburgh. > 42. You saved up forever for that DG water-cooled head and front-plate > radiator deal from DG. > 43. You're familiar with the "Flying W", WFO and the GYDBT, amongst other > terms. > 44. You've purchased both Bassani and Hooker pipes for your Yamaha DT-250. > 45. You installed a white fender-extender on your '76 YZ-125. Just because. > 46. You used to think it nutty to pay a buck-twenny- five for race-gas. > 47. You recall MXA magazine having a ROY (Rider Of The Year) that was > awarded a truck. > 48. You're familiar with front-falling gates, too. > 49. And flag starts. Uh huh. > 50. Some tracks even had traffic-light starts ! Whaaaaa ? > 51. You recall the van craze and its link to mx. > 52. Rex Staten always kind of scared you a bit. > 53. You still think of
Mike LaRocco as " that fast kid from Indiana." > 54. You've ridden a bike or two up and into a pick-up truck bed. > 55. You've also wadded it up performing this stunt. > 56. You've raced the Open-Class. On a real Open-bike. > 57. You remember the Harley-Davidson MX team. > 58. You could never afford those FOX-Shox. But you desired them, badly. > 59. You remember Bob Hannah's Open-Bike fan-club at Unadilla. > 60. You remember an AMA National in St. Pete, Florida. > 61. You thought the Husky chrome tanks were extremely sexy. > 62. You were pretty sure the Hodaka transmissions were made of plastic. > 63. You always knew that, by the'90's, Supercross would be live on TV on > Saturday nights. > 64. You used to bring your girlfriend and her dog to the races. That didn't > last. > 65. You recall Cycle News East & West versions. "We don't care how the hell > they do it
in California" - that was the East version's battlecry. Odd > times, indeed. > 66. You knew Can-Am's had rotary valves and no head gaskets. > 67. You knew Ricky's boss had worked in the sport pretty seriously prior to > getting into big-rig management. > 68. You not only owned a 175, you actually raced the 175 class! > 69. You still have your JOFA mouthpiece. > 70. You called your pants "leathers" - even if they weren't. > 71. You always wore a kidney-belt. You just did. > 72. You've seen a Maico 490 Sand Spider shred the knobs off. > 73. You know who "Super Hunky" is. > 74. You're familiar with terms like "Full-Floater" , "Unitrak", "Monoshock" > and groovy. > 75. You remember the DATSUN USGP Of Motocross > 76. Debruzer was some kind of handlebar pad endorsed by "De-MAN", right? > 77. Tommy Benolkin's name rings a bell with you. > 78. You actually attended
the Kansas City Supercross. > 79. You were there when Darrell Schultz won Daytona on his Chris Haines > prepped CR250. > 80. You knew Steve Wise was a motorcycling Mr. Do-It-All. > 81. You loved watching Jimmy Ellis at the Atlanta Supercross By Wrangler on > his Honda. > 82. You liked those Dunlop K190's, you really did. > 83. For many years it was only Metzelers for you though. > 84. You did give Trelleborg's a brief try. > 85. And Hi-Point's Red-Dot tires. (Hannah endorsed !) > 86. You were at that 1982 Loretta Lynn's by Kawasaki. 25 classes total. > 87. You've actually left a motocross race in a Ford Pinto towing a 3 rail > Holsclaw trailer, by golly. > 88. You've heard of both Bauers: Willi and Steve. > 89. You had subscriptions to Modern Cycle & Popular Cycling. > 90. You've heard the term "Maico-Breako" a time or two. > 91. You would have given your
left buttock for a pair of those "hi-zoot" > Simons Upside-Down forks! > 92. You've seen white KTM's with red-frames. > 93. You actually owned a bike-cover for your machine at one point. No, > really, you did. > 94. You always wanted to put a 44mm Mikuni carburetor on something. > Anything. > 95. You knew Josh Hansen's dad raced a bit. > 96. You bought a roost-boost bottle for your bike. Supposedly it > straightened out the powerband or something. > 97. You worked that Impact-driver like nobody's business. No > Phillips-stripping for you, my brother. > 98. The name Torsten Hallman was familiar to you, just like you knew well > the Gunnar-Gasser throttle. Hell, everybody did. > 99. You've broke more than one chain in a day. And you always carried extra > master-links. You had to. > 100. You knew, that if you only had five-bucks to get home on, you could
get > four burgers from Mickey-D's and five gallons of gas for your Econoline van. > True. > 101. Back then, a rhythm-section was a drummer and a bass player. > 102. You wore your socks out and over your boots and your shoulder-pads > under your shirt. > 103. You thought Tortelli and Pastrana were things you found at an Italian > deli. > 104. Your buddy wore an "I'm with stupid" shirt. > 105. You had, sporadically, one sleazy girlfriend that would wear that > "Slave" T-shirt. That chick was fun. > 106. You were introduced to Danny Laporte yet were too tongue-tied and > mesmerized to speak. > 107. You hazily recall there being a small bridge that the riders had to > negotiate in the '70's at Unadilla > > Chuck B. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
Neat stuff....I did some of my own; maybe others want to share.
When current Hangtown track was called McGills Cycle Park.
Walking thru a Nationals pits without credentials or thrown out.
Being at the last Sacramento Mile at the old State Fairgrounds.
Roost Factory was/is a famous aftermarket company. Damn divorces.
The Latest Poop by Papa Wealey in CN West at least.
Those bracket/hoop racks you put on rear fender of the family car when you got
your driver license to transport your bike to and fro.
Milkcrates used for bike stands and for Magoo to get on his 250CZ.
Riding spots a dime a dozen; even ride to your spot(s).
K-Mart use to sell minibikes called Steen.
You watched "On Any Sunday" at the theater.
Know the "Magoo Double" at Saddleback.
Plymouth Hangtowns(Thanks Emerson family) every first April weekend.
The 3 30 minute moto National experiment.(maybe was 20 min motos).
When SX and MX points combined for a National champion.
Pat Richter and Steve Wise raced some trick Moto-X-Fox RM 125s.
Rick Johnson a local Expert at 12.
Stopping for a beer at Namur GP.
Pete Szylagi.
MXA's first issue.
More than 1,000 AMA Pro Licenses issued that some riders had to add a letter to
their number.
You got trophies instead of 100% expert payback in Expert class.
When it meant something to be your districts blue plate #1.
Thought it would be fun to share ones you remember too. Peace.
-- In TeamBultaco@yahoogroups.com, Rick <alazgr8@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 1. You remember when they invented whoops.
> 2. You remember when the water-truck was a wooden cask hauled behind two
> musk oxen. Yes, oxen, dammit.
> 3. You've been thwacked by the surgical neoprene strand of a rubber-band
> start.
> 4. You well know the difference between a Combat Wombat, a Pursang and a
> Cappra.
> 5. You begged your dad to "forward-mount" your Elsinore's rear shocks.
> 6. Then you begged more for him to "lay 'em down".
> 7. You're familiar with Skunk Works and their whole get-up.
> 8. You badly desired a DG radial head for your RM-125.
> 9. You knew 'em as Pentons - before they were Katoomers.
> 10. You recall Team Tamm and L.O.P.
> 11. You idolized Marty Smith.
> 12. You knew Micky Dymond rode a Husky pretty damn well.
> 13. You were stunned when you heard Gerrit Wolsink became a dentist.
> 14. You never missed ABC's Wide World Of Sports in case they featured the
> USGP at Carlsbad.
> 15. You remember when hot-dogs were the only "health-food" available at the
> track
> 16. You dreamt of manhandling a Maico 501
> 17. You remember Jones goggles and Carrera's, too.
> 18. Ake Jonnson and Jack Van Velthoven are household names to you.
> 19. You've pulled serious dirt out of your nose two days after a National.
> 20. You've camped at both Mount Morris and Unadilla and lived to tell of it.
>
> 21. You wished you'd never bought those Scott plastic boots. But you did.
> 22. You've owned a duckbill visor or two.
> 23. You've worn football pads in a motocross race.
> 24. You've worn race-gloves with pieces of tires attached to the fingers.
> 25. You remember when box-vans were "factory".
> 26. You're making stupid-money selling your old motocross stuff as "vintage"
> on ****.
> 27. You used to think Heikki Mikkola was the baddest dude on the planet. In
> fact, part of you thinks he still is.
> 28. You've pulled the lights and blinkers off an enduro bike to race
> motocross.
> 29. You recall seeing Jim Gianatsis' name over every dirt-bike photo in the
> '70's.
> 30. Mr. Know-It-All both entertained you and pissed you off.
> 31. And you know who Lovely Louella is and where Chicken Licks Raceway
> isn't.
> 32. You once asked your dad if you could get a Bel-Ray tattoo.
> 33. Your mom ironed on a Champion spark-plug patch to your jean-jacket.
> 34. You've written letters to companies begging for stickers.
> 35. You were there when tear-offs were invented.
> 36. You fondly recall the Wrangler Dash For Cash in Supercross races.
> 37. You owned at least one "Do It In The Dirt" shirt.
> 38. You tear up while recalling the sound of the start of a 500 National.
> 39. You blasted your Zeppelin on 8-tracks on the way to the races.
> 40. In later years, you rode home listening to the Eagles on these
> revolutionary cassettes.
> 41. You witnessed a Supercross in Pittsburgh.
> 42. You saved up forever for that DG water-cooled head and front-plate
> radiator deal from DG.
> 43. You're familiar with the "Flying W", WFO and the GYDBT, amongst other
> terms.
> 44. You've purchased both Bassani and Hooker pipes for your Yamaha DT-250.
> 45. You installed a white fender-extender on your '76 YZ-125. Just because.
> 46. You used to think it nutty to pay a buck-twenny- five for race-gas.
> 47. You recall MXA magazine having a ROY (Rider Of The Year) that was
> awarded a truck.
> 48. You're familiar with front-falling gates, too.
> 49. And flag starts. Uh huh.
> 50. Some tracks even had traffic-light starts ! Whaaaaa ?
> 51. You recall the van craze and its link to mx.
> 52. Rex Staten always kind of scared you a bit.
> 53. You still think of Mike LaRocco as " that fast kid from Indiana."
> 54. You've ridden a bike or two up and into a pick-up truck bed.
> 55. You've also wadded it up performing this stunt.
> 56. You've raced the Open-Class. On a real Open-bike.
> 57. You remember the Harley-Davidson MX team.
> 58. You could never afford those FOX-Shox. But you desired them, badly.
> 59. You remember Bob Hannah's Open-Bike fan-club at Unadilla.
> 60. You remember an AMA National in St. Pete, Florida.
> 61. You thought the Husky chrome tanks were extremely sexy.
> 62. You were pretty sure the Hodaka transmissions were made of plastic.
> 63. You always knew that, by the'90's, Supercross would be live on TV on
> Saturday nights.
> 64. You used to bring your girlfriend and her dog to the races. That didn't
> last.
> 65. You recall Cycle News East & West versions. "We don't care how the hell
> they do it in California" - that was the East version's battlecry. Odd
> times, indeed.
> 66. You knew Can-Am's had rotary valves and no head gaskets.
> 67. You knew Ricky's boss had worked in the sport pretty seriously prior to
> getting into big-rig management.
> 68. You not only owned a 175, you actually raced the 175 class!
> 69. You still have your JOFA mouthpiece.
> 70. You called your pants "leathers" - even if they weren't.
> 71. You always wore a kidney-belt. You just did.
> 72. You've seen a Maico 490 Sand Spider shred the knobs off.
> 73. You know who "Super Hunky" is.
> 74. You're familiar with terms like "Full-Floater" , "Unitrak", "Monoshock"
> and groovy.
> 75. You remember the DATSUN USGP Of Motocross
> 76. Debruzer was some kind of handlebar pad endorsed by "De-MAN", right?
> 77. Tommy Benolkin's name rings a bell with you.
> 78. You actually attended the Kansas City Supercross.
> 79. You were there when Darrell Schultz won Daytona on his Chris Haines
> prepped CR250.
> 80. You knew Steve Wise was a motorcycling Mr. Do-It-All.
> 81. You loved watching Jimmy Ellis at the Atlanta Supercross By Wrangler on
> his Honda.
> 82. You liked those Dunlop K190's, you really did.
> 83. For many years it was only Metzelers for you though.
> 84. You did give Trelleborg's a brief try.
> 85. And Hi-Point's Red-Dot tires. (Hannah endorsed !)
> 86. You were at that 1982 Loretta Lynn's by Kawasaki. 25 classes total.
> 87. You've actually left a motocross race in a Ford Pinto towing a 3 rail
> Holsclaw trailer, by golly.
> 88. You've heard of both Bauers: Willi and Steve.
> 89. You had subscriptions to Modern Cycle & Popular Cycling.
> 90. You've heard the term "Maico-Breako" a time or two.
> 91. You would have given your left buttock for a pair of those "hi-zoot"
> Simons Upside-Down forks!
> 92. You've seen white KTM's with red-frames.
> 93. You actually owned a bike-cover for your machine at one point. No,
> really, you did.
> 94. You always wanted to put a 44mm Mikuni carburetor on something.
> Anything.
> 95. You knew Josh Hansen's dad raced a bit.
> 96. You bought a roost-boost bottle for your bike. Supposedly it
> straightened out the powerband or something.
> 97. You worked that Impact-driver like nobody's business. No
> Phillips-stripping for you, my brother.
> 98. The name Torsten Hallman was familiar to you, just like you knew well
> the Gunnar-Gasser throttle. Hell, everybody did.
> 99. You've broke more than one chain in a day. And you always carried extra
> master-links. You had to.
> 100. You knew, that if you only had five-bucks to get home on, you could get
> four burgers from Mickey-D's and five gallons of gas for your Econoline van.
> True.
> 101. Back then, a rhythm-section was a drummer and a bass player.
> 102. You wore your socks out and over your boots and your shoulder-pads
> under your shirt.
> 103. You thought Tortelli and Pastrana were things you found at an Italian
> deli.
> 104. Your buddy wore an "I'm with stupid" shirt.
> 105. You had, sporadically, one sleazy girlfriend that would wear that
> "Slave" T-shirt. That chick was fun.
> 106. You were introduced to Danny Laporte yet were too tongue-tied and
> mesmerized to speak.
> 107. You hazily recall there being a small bridge that the riders had to
> negotiate in the '70's at Unadilla
>
> Chuck B.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
1. You remember when they invented whoops. 2. You remember when the water-truck was a wooden cask hauled behind two musk oxen. Yes, oxen, dammit. 3. You've been thwacked by the surgical neoprene strand of a rubber-band start. 4. You well know the difference between a Combat Wombat, a Pursang and a Cappra. 5. You begged your dad to "forward-mount" your Elsinore's rear shocks. 6. Then you begged more for him to "lay 'em down". 7. You're familiar with Skunk Works and their whole get-up. 8. You badly desired a DG radial head for your RM-125. 9. You knew 'em as Pentons - before they were Katoomers. 10. You recall Team Tamm and L.O.P. 11. You idolized Marty Smith. 12. You knew Micky Dymond rode a Husky pretty damn well. 13. You were stunned when you heard Gerrit Wolsink became a dentist. 14. You never missed ABC's Wide World Of Sports in case they featured the USGP at Carlsbad. 15. You remember when
hot-dogs were the only "health-food" available at the track 16. You dreamt of manhandling a Maico 501 17. You remember Jones goggles and Carrera's, too. 18. Ake Jonnson and Jack Van Velthoven are household names to you. 19. You've pulled serious dirt out of your nose two days after a National. 20. You've camped at both Mount Morris and Unadilla and lived to tell of it.
21. You wished you'd never bought those Scott plastic boots. But you did. 22. You've owned a duckbill visor or two. 23. You've worn football pads in a motocross race. 24. You've worn race-gloves with pieces of tires attached to the fingers. 25. You remember when box-vans were "factory". 26. You're making stupid-money selling your old motocross stuff as "vintage" on ****. 27. You used to think Heikki Mikkola was the baddest dude on the planet. In fact, part of you thinks he still is. 28. You've pulled the lights and blinkers off an enduro
bike to race motocross. 29. You recall seeing Jim Gianatsis' name over every dirt-bike photo in the '70's. 30. Mr. Know-It-All both entertained you and pissed you off. 31. And you know who Lovely Louella is and where Chicken Licks Raceway isn't. 32. You once asked your dad if you could get a Bel-Ray tattoo. 33. Your mom ironed on a Champion spark-plug patch to your jean-jacket. 34. You've written letters to companies begging for stickers. 35. You were there when tear-offs were invented. 36. You fondly recall the Wrangler Dash For Cash in Supercross races. 37. You owned at least one "Do It In The Dirt" shirt. 38. You tear up while recalling the sound of the start of a 500 National. 39. You blasted your Zeppelin on 8-tracks on the way to the races. 40. In later years, you rode home listening to the Eagles on these revolutionary cassettes. 41. You witnessed a Supercross in Pittsburgh. 42. You saved up
forever for that DG water-cooled head and front-plate radiator deal from DG. 43. You're familiar with the "Flying W", WFO and the GYDBT, amongst other terms. 44. You've purchased both Bassani and Hooker pipes for your Yamaha DT-250. 45. You installed a white fender-extender on your '76 YZ-125. Just because. 46. You used to think it nutty to pay a buck-twenny- five for race-gas. 47. You recall MXA magazine having a ROY (Rider Of The Year) that was awarded a truck. 48. You're familiar with front-falling gates, too. 49. And flag starts. Uh huh. 50. Some tracks even had traffic-light starts ! Whaaaaa ? 51. You recall the van craze and its link to mx. 52. Rex Staten always kind of scared you a bit. 53. You still think of Mike LaRocco as " that fast kid from Indiana." 54. You've ridden a bike or two up and into a pick-up truck bed. 55. You've also wadded it up performing this stunt. 56. You've raced the
Open-Class. On a real Open-bike. 57. You remember the Harley-Davidson MX team. 58. You could never afford those FOX-Shox. But you desired them, badly. 59. You remember Bob Hannah's Open-Bike fan-club at Unadilla. 60. You remember an AMA National in St. Pete, Florida. 61. You thought the Husky chrome tanks were extremely sexy. 62. You were pretty sure the Hodaka transmissions were made of plastic. 63. You always knew that, by the'90's, Supercross would be live on TV on Saturday nights. 64. You used to bring your girlfriend and her dog to the races. That didn't last. 65. You recall Cycle News East & West versions. "We don't care how the hell they do it in California" - that was the East version's battlecry. Odd times, indeed. 66. You knew Can-Am's had rotary valves and no head gaskets. 67. You knew Ricky's boss had worked in the sport pretty seriously prior to getting into big-rig management. 68. You
not only owned a 175, you actually raced the 175 class! 69. You still have your JOFA mouthpiece. 70. You called your pants "leathers" - even if they weren't. 71. You always wore a kidney-belt. You just did. 72. You've seen a Maico 490 Sand Spider shred the knobs off. 73. You know who "Super Hunky" is. 74. You're familiar with terms like "Full-Floater" , "Unitrak", "Monoshock" and groovy. 75. You remember the DATSUN USGP Of Motocross 76. Debruzer was some kind of handlebar pad endorsed by "De-MAN", right? 77. Tommy Benolkin's name rings a bell with you. 78. You actually attended the Kansas City Supercross. 79. You were there when Darrell Schultz won Daytona on his Chris Haines prepped CR250. 80. You knew Steve Wise was a motorcycling Mr. Do-It-All. 81. You loved watching Jimmy Ellis at the Atlanta Supercross By Wrangler on his Honda. 82. You liked those Dunlop K190's, you really did. 83. For many
years it was only Metzelers for you though. 84. You did give Trelleborg's a brief try. 85. And Hi-Point's Red-Dot tires. (Hannah endorsed !) 86. You were at that 1982 Loretta Lynn's by Kawasaki. 25 classes total. 87. You've actually left a motocross race in a Ford Pinto towing a 3 rail Holsclaw trailer, by golly. 88. You've heard of both Bauers: Willi and Steve. 89. You had subscriptions to Modern Cycle & Popular Cycling. 90. You've heard the term "Maico-Breako" a time or two. 91. You would have given your left buttock for a pair of those "hi-zoot" Simons Upside-Down forks! 92. You've seen white KTM's with red-frames. 93. You actually owned a bike-cover for your machine at one point. No, really, you did. 94. You always wanted to put a 44mm Mikuni carburetor on something. Anything. 95. You knew Josh Hansen's dad raced a bit. 96. You bought a roost-boost bottle for your bike. Supposedly
it straightened out the powerband or something. 97. You worked that Impact-driver like nobody's business. No Phillips-stripping for you, my brother. 98. The name Torsten Hallman was familiar to you, just like you knew well the Gunnar-Gasser throttle. Hell, everybody did. 99. You've broke more than one chain in a day. And you always carried extra master-links. You had to. 100. You knew, that if you only had five-bucks to get home on, you could get four burgers from Mickey-D's and five gallons of gas for your Econoline van. True. 101. Back then, a rhythm-section was a drummer and a bass player. 102. You wore your socks out and over your boots and your shoulder-pads under your shirt. 103. You thought Tortelli and Pastrana were things you found at an Italian deli. 104. Your buddy wore an "I'm with stupid" shirt. 105. You had, sporadically, one sleazy girlfriend that would wear that "Slave" T-shirt. That
chick was fun. 106. You were introduced to Danny Laporte yet were too tongue-tied and mesmerized to speak. 107. You hazily recall there being a small bridge that the riders had to negotiate in the '70's at Unadilla
Chuck B.
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Great thanks a bunch. My tank has to be clear coated so may as well do it all.
Bama Gary
In a message dated 8/25/2009 11:03:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time, colorgraphics1@... writes:
Hey Gary, here's the paint color you need.
PPG brand, # DBU 2230 Grabber Blue DBU series needs to be clear coated. If you want a single stage paint (no clear required) have them mix it as DCC series. Slightly more expensive but saves you from buying a clear coat.
-Gonzo
> > I finally got a 135 tank. Now, if someone could give me the paint codes > for the blue paint, I could paint my all-white side covers to match the tank. > Anyone know the paint numbers for the Bultaco blue? > > Bama Gary >
Hey Gary, here's the paint color you need.
PPG brand, # DBU 2230 Grabber Blue
DBU series needs to be clear coated. If you want a single stage paint (no clear
required)
have them mix it as DCC series. Slightly more expensive but saves you from
buying a clear coat.
-Gonzo
>
> I finally got a 135 tank. Now, if someone could give me the paint codes
> for the blue paint, I could paint my all-white side covers to match the tank.
> Anyone know the paint numbers for the Bultaco blue?
>
> Bama Gary
>
Quantity in Basket: none Code: SPRAYBLUE Price: $21.95 Shipping Weight: 2.00 pounds Sorry, we are currently sold out of 'Bultaco Blue Spray Paint'. Please check back later.
P/N SP BLUE $21.95 We have had this paint color matched for the Bultaco blue. Comes in a 12oz. can. This paint is a PPG Grabber Blue with a paint code 2230 if you prefer to spray out of a gun.
--- On Sat, 8/22/09, got2@... <got2@...> wrote:
From: got2@... <got2@...> Subject: [TeamBultaco] Paint To: TeamBultaco@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 9:22 PM
I finally got a 135 tank. Now, if someone could give me the paint codes for the blue paint, I could paint my all-white side covers to match the tank. Anyone know the paint numbers for the Bultaco blue?
I finally got a 135 tank. Now, if someone could give me the paint codes for the blue paint, I could paint my all-white side covers to match the tank. Anyone know the paint numbers for the Bultaco blue?
WTH, hi, how have you been, all good on my end !!
i made it to Mid-Ohio, had the normal Great time !!
i won't make Barber's but i will be at the ISDTRR in Ohio, will you be
there ??
OK, talk to you soon,
regards, Mike G.
--- In TeamBultaco@yahoogroups.com, William Hancock <whiskeychute@...>
wrote:
>
> Hey Mike,
>
> Where you been.........Didn't make Mid-Ohio even though I had
> vender space rented & paid for.....See you soon......Barber's??
>
> WTHancock
>
>
> --- On Sat, 8/22/09, mktm400exc mktm400exc@... wrote:
>
>
> From: mktm400exc mktm400exc@...
> Subject: [TeamBultaco] new member pics
> To: TeamBultaco@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 9:08 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> hi Bultaco friends,
>
> just joined the group,
>
> added pics of my M-101 to the photos, {Mike G's}
>
> thanks for being here,
>
> regards,
>
> Mike Gallagher from NJ.
>
Real glad to hear your good news.
Andy
--- In TeamBultaco@yahoogroups.com, "whiskeychute" <whiskeychute@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Folks,
>
> Parts finally shipped on Aug 20 & even have confirmation numbers
> which confirm that they should be delivered on 27 Aug.
> Thanks for al the advice & help. I do have his PayPal Account blocked
> until I receive the parts.
>
> WTHancock
>
Hey Folks,
Parts finally shipped on Aug 20 & even have confirmation numbers
which confirm that they should be delivered on 27 Aug.
Thanks for al the advice & help. I do have his PayPal Account blocked
until I receive the parts.
WTHancock
WTHancock --- On Thu, 8/20/09, metralla22000 <kpope@...> wrote:
From: metralla22000 <kpope@...> Subject: [TeamBultaco] Re: Parts Scam To: TeamBultaco@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 12:03 PM
I live not far away. There is a Michael Taylor listed in Rocklin but the phone number you listed is an Auburn number which is about 8 miles from Rocklin. How can I help?
Ken
--- In TeamBultaco@ yahoogroups. com, "whiskeychute" <whiskeychute@ ...> wrote: > > Hey Folks, > > Look out for an EBay seller called (verticalgardens) . > His regular eMail is motocrmoto@. .. > His name is Mike Taylor, phone 530 889 1891. > Lives near Rocklin, CA. > > Ordered Bultaco M 135 frame & a few other misc parts > but not on eBay...Used PayPal to pay. Paid him $162.35 > for UPS shipping plus $150.00 for the parts on 18 JUl 2009. > > Will not answer eMails. > > Anyone out here live near
Rocklin????? ????? > > WTHancock >
--- On Thu, 8/20/09, DAVID CUTTING <dcutting25@...> wrote:
From: DAVID CUTTING <dcutting25@...> Subject: Re: [TeamBultaco] Re: Parts Scam To: TeamBultaco@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 12:12 PM
Call the Placer County Sheriff's Department, 530-886-5375. This is a crime. With electronic fund transfer crimes, you can go to either the jurisdiction where you live, or where the suspect lives for prosecution. A visit from a uniformed Deputy should help Mr. Taylor rearrange his priorities.
Regards,
David
--- On Thu, 8/20/09, metralla22000 <kpope@peakis. net> wrote:
From: metralla22000 <kpope@peakis. net> Subject: [TeamBultaco] Re: Parts Scam To: TeamBultaco@ yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 10:03 AM
I live not far away. There is a Michael Taylor listed in Rocklin but the phone number you listed is an Auburn number which is about 8 miles from Rocklin. How can I help?
Ken
--- In TeamBultaco@ yahoogroups. com, "whiskeychute" <whiskeychute@ ...> wrote: > > Hey Folks, > > Look out for an EBay seller called (verticalgardens) . > His regular eMail is motocrmoto@. .. > His name is Mike Taylor, phone 530 889 1891. > Lives near Rocklin, CA. > > Ordered Bultaco M 135 frame & a few other misc parts > but not on eBay...Used PayPal to pay. Paid him $162.35 > for UPS shipping plus $150.00 for the parts on 18 JUl 2009. > > Will not answer eMails. > > Anyone out here live near Rocklin????? ????? > >
WTHancock >
I have notified PayPal & they have put a hold on this cat's PayPal account. I'll know
more tomorrrrow.
Thanks Guys,
WTHancock
--- On Thu, 8/20/09, bultacoandy125pursang <andymoto@...> wrote:
From: bultacoandy125pursang <andymoto@...> Subject: [TeamBultaco] Re: Parts Scam To: TeamBultaco@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 1:26 PM
Yes, do what Mr. Cutting suggests immediately. .. I live in Sac and that name maybe familiar to the authorities as well. I thought PayPal had some kind of fraud protection?? ? Presume too late to cancel transaction from PayPal side or too early to findout where money was sent to?
--- In TeamBultaco@ yahoogroups. com, DAVID CUTTING <dcutting25@ ...> wrote: > > Call the Placer County Sheriff's Department, 530-886-5375. This is a crime. With electronic fund transfer crimes, you can go to either the jurisdiction where you live, or where the suspect lives for prosecution. A visit from a uniformed Deputy should help Mr. Taylor rearrange his priorities. > > Regards, > > David > > --- On Thu, 8/20/09, metralla22000
<kpope@...> wrote: > > > From: metralla22000 <kpope@...> > Subject: [TeamBultaco] Re: Parts Scam > To: TeamBultaco@ yahoogroups. com > Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 10:03 AM > > > > > > > I live not far away. There is a Michael Taylor listed in Rocklin but the phone number you listed is an Auburn number which is about 8 miles from Rocklin. How can I help? > > Ken > > --- In TeamBultaco@ yahoogroups. com, "whiskeychute" <whiskeychute@ ...> wrote: > > > > Hey Folks, > > > > Look out for an EBay seller called (verticalgardens) . > > His regular eMail is motocrmoto@ .. > > His name is Mike Taylor, phone
530 889 1891. > > Lives near Rocklin, CA. > > > > Ordered Bultaco M 135 frame & a few other misc parts > > but not on eBay...Used PayPal to pay. Paid him $162.35 > > for UPS shipping plus $150.00 for the parts on 18 JUl 2009. > > > > Will not answer eMails. > > > > Anyone out here live near Rocklin????? ????? > > > > WTHancock > > >
Yes, do what Mr. Cutting suggests immediately... I live in Sac and that name
maybe familiar to the authorities as well. I thought PayPal had some kind of
fraud protection??? Presume too late to cancel transaction from PayPal side or
too early to findout where money was sent to?
--- In TeamBultaco@yahoogroups.com, DAVID CUTTING <dcutting25@...> wrote:
>
> Call the Placer County Sheriff's Department, 530-886-5375. This is a crime.
With electronic fund transfer crimes, you can go to either the jurisdiction
where you live, or where the suspect lives for prosecution. A visit from a
uniformed Deputy should help Mr. Taylor rearrange his priorities.
>
> Regards,
>
> David
>
> --- On Thu, 8/20/09, metralla22000 <kpope@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: metralla22000 <kpope@...>
> Subject: [TeamBultaco] Re: Parts Scam
> To: TeamBultaco@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 10:03 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I live not far away. There is a Michael Taylor listed in Rocklin but the phone
number you listed is an Auburn number which is about 8 miles from Rocklin. How
can I help?
>
> Ken
>
> --- In TeamBultaco@ yahoogroups. com, "whiskeychute" <whiskeychute@ ...>
wrote:
> >
> > Hey Folks,
> >
> > Look out for an EBay seller called (verticalgardens) .
> > His regular eMail is motocrmoto@ ..
> > His name is Mike Taylor, phone 530 889 1891.
> > Lives near Rocklin, CA.
> >
> > Ordered Bultaco M 135 frame & a few other misc parts
> > but not on eBay...Used PayPal to pay. Paid him $162.35
> > for UPS shipping plus $150.00 for the parts on 18 JUl 2009.
> >
> > Will not answer eMails.
> >
> > Anyone out here live near Rocklin????? ?????
> >
> > WTHancock
> >
>
Call the Placer County Sheriff's Department, 530-886-5375. This is a crime. With electronic fund transfer crimes, you can go to either the jurisdiction where you live, or where the suspect lives for prosecution. A visit from a uniformed Deputy should help Mr. Taylor rearrange his priorities.
Regards,
David
--- On Thu, 8/20/09, metralla22000 <kpope@...> wrote:
From: metralla22000 <kpope@...> Subject: [TeamBultaco] Re: Parts Scam To: TeamBultaco@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 10:03 AM
I live not far away. There is a Michael Taylor listed in Rocklin but the phone number you listed is an Auburn number which is about 8 miles from Rocklin. How can I help?
Ken
--- In TeamBultaco@ yahoogroups. com, "whiskeychute" <whiskeychute@ ...> wrote: > > Hey Folks, > > Look out for an EBay seller called (verticalgardens) . > His regular eMail is motocrmoto@. .. > His name is Mike Taylor, phone 530 889 1891. > Lives near Rocklin, CA. > > Ordered Bultaco M 135 frame & a few other misc parts > but not on eBay...Used PayPal to pay. Paid him $162.35 > for UPS shipping plus $150.00 for the parts on 18 JUl 2009. > > Will not answer eMails. > > Anyone out here live near
Rocklin????? ????? > > WTHancock >
I live not far away. There is a Michael Taylor listed in Rocklin but the phone
number you listed is an Auburn number which is about 8 miles from Rocklin. How
can I help?
Ken
--- In TeamBultaco@yahoogroups.com, "whiskeychute" <whiskeychute@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Folks,
>
> Look out for an EBay seller called (verticalgardens).
> His regular eMail is motocrmoto@...
> His name is Mike Taylor, phone 530 889 1891.
> Lives near Rocklin, CA.
>
> Ordered Bultaco M 135 frame & a few other misc parts
> but not on eBay...Used PayPal to pay. Paid him $162.35
> for UPS shipping plus $150.00 for the parts on 18 JUl 2009.
>
> Will not answer eMails.
>
> Anyone out here live near Rocklin??????????
>
> WTHancock
>
--- On Wed, 8/19/09, Alan Burgess <ab400@...> wrote:
From: Alan Burgess <ab400@...> Subject: RE: [TeamBultaco] Parts Scam To: teambultaco@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 12:29 PM
Doesn't matter. PayPal will take care of it. They will block his account until he either convinces them he has done nothing wrong or gives you your money back (or parts). I did it and in two days had my money refunded.
Alan
To: TeamBultaco@ yahoogroups. com From: whiskeychute@ yahoo.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:04:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [TeamBultaco] Parts Scam
Thanks, will try but I didn't buy through eBay......
wth
--- On Wed, 8/19/09, pwr0001@aol. com <pwr0001@aol. com> wrote:
From: pwr0001@aol. com <pwr0001@aol. com> Subject: Re: [TeamBultaco] Parts Scam To: TeamBultaco@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 10:49 AM
They will freee the money and do an investigation, takes about a month,
In a message dated 8/19/2009 6:46:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, got2@... writes:
In a message dated 8/19/2009 8:15:12 AM Central Daylight Time, whiskeychute@ yahoo.com writes:
Ordered Bultaco M 135 frame &a few other misc parts but not on eBay...Used PayPal to pay.
You should contact PayPal immediately. Register a complaint and tell them you were scammed. I think they have some sort of protection for this.
Bama G
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Doesn't matter. PayPal will take care of it. They will block his account until he either convinces them he has done nothing wrong or gives you your money back (or parts). I did it and in two days had my money refunded.
Alan
To: TeamBultaco@yahoogroups.com From: whiskeychute@... Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:04:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [TeamBultaco] Parts Scam
Thanks, will try but I didn't buy through eBay......
wth
--- On Wed, 8/19/09, pwr0001@aol.com <pwr0001@aol.com> wrote:
From: pwr0001@aol.com <pwr0001@aol.com> Subject: Re: [TeamBultaco] Parts Scam To: TeamBultaco@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 10:49 AM
They will freee the money and do an investigation, takes about a month,
In a message dated 8/19/2009 6:46:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, got2@... writes:
In a message dated 8/19/2009 8:15:12 AM Central Daylight Time, whiskeychute@ yahoo.com writes:
Ordered Bultaco M 135 frame &a few other misc parts but not on eBay...Used PayPal to pay.
You should contact PayPal immediately. Register a complaint and tell them you were scammed. I think they have some sort of protection for this.
Bama G
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