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RE: [TXUltimate] Age requirements challenged...

In my opinion alumni playing with their former high schools is a travesty, and hinders the growth and acceptance of Ultimate. I feel this way for two simple reasons: it hurts current high school Ultimate players and makes our sport look like a joke.

            By this logic, one could create an entire team of “high school” ultimate players who have just completed their first year of college. This hurts the players at said high school because they are less likely to gain game experience because former players are controlling the disc, and receiving more passes (as they rightfully should if they are better) but it also hurts players at other schools. Take Keller for example, we started playing our freshman year, with a team of all freshman, the following year we added three juniors to our team. But under this rule we could have had two members of the University of Texas Ultimate team, and one member of Colorado Mamabird, plus numerous other freshman college players playing with us. This would have been unfair to us in that we would lose the great game experience we had that year, and it would have been unfair to other teams. Rather than use people who did not go to Keller High School in game situations we used them to teach us. We had an alumni game in which former players played with us and then had many practices in which college players helped to teach our team. To properly utilize college players they should be used as guest coaches. They should come to a practice or two and give pointers to their former team mates. It is unfair to everyone involved if college players play.

            Having college players play on high school teams is a joke. If Ultimate ever expects to be taken seriously we must act like a serious sport. There are no UIL sports that allow freshman in college to compete; there are no NCCA sports that allow rookie professionals to still compete. No legitimate sport allows this. As a community of players we all talk about how we want to be accepted as a sport yet we don’t allow refs and do not welcome NCAA assistance. We further hinder ourselves, and embarrass ourselves by allowing college players to play on high school teams. Allowing such a thing makes Ultimate look like a joke and merely a hobby rather then a sport.

 

I apologize for the rant but I feel very passionately at making Ultimate a main stream sport and believe this limits those chances. If you have any questions or comments about my remarks please reply to this email.

 


From: TXUltimate@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TXUltimate@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Denison
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 4:25 PM
To: Texas Youth Ultimate; Houston Youth Ultimate; Dallas Youth Ultimate; AustinHS Ultimate
Cc: Roma Ilkiw
Subject: [TXUltimate] Age requirements challenged...

 

High School Players and Captains,

Check ou this poll that was taken...I am not sure
when, or who was involved. In 2002, the youth
advisory committee developed the rules for age
requirements to allow college players return to their
high schools and share what they have learned after
playing on college teams. That rule is being
challenged. Check the results!

http://www.upa.org/programs/youthdev/polls

We can go either way as we develop enough membership
to host an official tournament. So, I would like to
know what we want to do for the TEXAS tournament.
Some players were upset that we let players out of
high school play, after their first college season.
I am asking your opinion, now...although we do not
need to set the rules until January.

Please discuss this with your teams/clubs...and let us
know how we should make the roster rules.

Personally, I think we could benefit from playing our
tournament with alumni involved. It is my opinion
that we would build faster. So, talk to us,
TEXAS...We are here for you.

For your Information...

We are hoping that you use the fall to recruit and
develop interest in our sport on your campus. The
weebsite will update as we get school started.

Tentative plans for this year include,

... a fall hat tournament and a some new player/team
clinics to happen this semster. Please, CONTACT us if
you want us to come to your school.

...Winter leagues are being planned in Dallas and
Austin (and perhaps Houston) to be played in
January-March.

...We are planning the STATE tournament for early
April this year; May is so busy... Hopefully, we will
be at the same location. The fields were sweet!

We welcome ANY comments-please. let us know what you
want.

We are here for YOU.

ULTIMATE...play the GAME, LIVE the SPIRIT.

Peace,
bubba

Barbara Denison

Texas, Ultimate!
PO Box 3567
Austin, TX 78764-3567

http://www.UltimateSpirit.org

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Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:11 am

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High School Players and Captains, Check ou this poll that was taken...I am not sure when, or who was involved. In 2002, the youth advisory committee...
Barbara Denison
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Aug 27, 2007
9:26 pm

In my opinion alumni playing with their former high schools is a travesty, and hinders the growth and acceptance of Ultimate. I feel this way for two simple...
RB Helterbrand
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Aug 28, 2007
3:12 am

I appreciate your passion, RB. Rants are welcome here. This is a forum for discussion and opinion... So far, we have one in favor of allowing players to ...
Barbara Denison
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Aug 28, 2007
7:38 pm

Thank you very much Bubba. Travel is very difficult for our tea,, and we have had difficulty traveling to state tournaments. We hope to make it this year. But...
RB Helterbrand
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Aug 28, 2007
10:01 pm

GEt you team ready. The DFW area will host a league from January to March, in preparation for a STATE tournament in April. Let's pick a date and get a fall...
Barbara Denison
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Aug 29, 2007
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