can't help but put my two cents in because i want c-springs to keep having teams.
as much as i hate to admit it, i agree with jones. (can't believe i just wrote that). keep in mind that the biggest and best summer league in denver is on thursday nights. most of the better players stay away from the sunday league because it conflicts too much with tourneys. and as always, beer is a huge draw.
well done matt, you are the last hope.
good luck,
nathan
To: ultimateboy@...; SpringsUltimate@yahoogroups.com CC: brian@...; jericho_380@...; mwallace807@... From: jjones@... Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 09:24:29 -0600 Subject: RE: [SpringsUltimate] Need Opinions
First – let me say, Thank You Matt, for stepping up and making sure we all have a local outlet for our Ultimate fetish. And thanks for being forward-thinking about how to improve numbers and turnout.
I like the concept of centralized fields. That may well be a deterrent to getting the desired numbers.
However, moving the league to weekends will probably have the opposite effect that you are trying to achieve. Denver gets numbers, because they have numbers – well over a million population to draw on. Since this is summer, you will have numerous distractions competing for league members’ time on weekends: vacations, ultimate tourneys (almost every other weekend!), hiking, backpacking, river rafting, foot races, etc etc. I very much believe this will have a negative effect.
So – if that is the case, back to “where can you get centralized fields during the week in CSprings?”
-Bear Creek – probably available on week nights, but you can only reserve 2 out of 3 fields. If we only need 2 fields (4 teams) then this will do. If we need 3 fields, then we could just try to get there early and mark out the 3rd field (available on first-come-first-serve basis).
-Others? There are several new complexes added in recent years – but I am not up on them.
From: SpringsUltimate@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SpringsUltimate@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of CSUN - Matt Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:05 AM To: SpringsUltimate Subject: [SpringsUltimate] Need Opinions
SpringsUltimate,
As I have been getting things ready for this year's summer league, I have a bold new idea. I would hate to implement something like this without first discussing it with everybody, which is why I am here.
Over the last few years summer league has been on a weekday night at a field location which is not optimal. I think that these two, in combination with eachother, are part of the reason that the league has been beginning to suffer. I started this year by saying that I wanted to find a new set of fields in the city. The problem with this arises when you realize that almost all city fields which are large enough to house the league are used for Park and Rec activities on weekday nights. There is not an open field large enough to house the league, unless we move the league to the weekend. Which is why I would like to propose a new alternative.
Denver's CUA (formally U2) has had a very successful league for many, many years. The fields that they currently use are not perfect, a bit of slope, a bit uneven... but they are easy to get to and centralized. I believe this simple fact could be a small aspect of their success. To me, the quality of the fields does not matter. What really does matter is having people to play.
What are your thoughts on moving the league to Saturdays and moving it to an in-city field (such as Cottonwood or Bear Creek)? If this were the case, I would also propose starting up a weeknight pickup to substitute the lack of weekend pickup.
Please respond with your opinions. I don't want to make a decision like this without the support of the community.
SpringsUltimate, As I have been getting things ready for this year's summer league, I have a bold new idea. I would hate to implement something like this...
Matt, I think you are on the right track. The one suggestion that I would make is that we monitor the UPA tournament listings and during a weekend that there...
Dan and Sal. That is a good point. I would probably put byes in for all Colorado tournaments. --matt tucker ... -- -- Matthew Tucker c: 719.651.5298 h:...
And, with different fields you could extend the season. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ... From: "GMail - Ultimateboy" <ultimateboy@...> Date:...
First - let me say, Thank You Matt, for stepping up and making sure we all have a local outlet for our Ultimate fetish. And thanks for being forward-thinking...
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can't help but put my two cents in because i want c-springs to keep having teams. as much as i hate to admit it, i agree with jones. (can't believe i just...
I think finding a more central set of fields is a good idea however I think keeping it on a weeknight vs weekend would be best. -- Chuck Brunson Cassatt Corp. ...
I know I may not have the right to chime in, as I haven't participated for a couple of years, BUT I definitely think that moving to the weekend would lose...
ed biery
ebiery@...
Mar 26, 2008 5:13 pm
Centralizing the league is a great idea - probably will lead to more people playing. Moving to weekend is not so great an idea - probably will lead to less...
SpringsUltimate, I really appreciate everybody's response. And please, keep the opinions coming. Most of you are saying generally the same thing, keep it on a ...
I would just like to point out that there already is Tuesday night pickup at Cottonwood Creek Park at 7:00 every week, or even slightly earlier if people are...
Being the ultra-committed go-getter that i am, i have no preference and will be at summer league either weekdays or weekends! :) On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 4:22...
Ilya
sovietnoodle@...
Mar 27, 2008 10:42 pm
That's awesome! If we could get more people on say a Wednesday or Thursday would Cottonwood Creek still be an option? According to the poll, so far 5 people...