Question 6: Season-best times 1961 41,3 v.d. Grift NED Hamar 11.2 1.26,5 Mario Gios ITA Mad di C 25.1 2.11,7 v.d. Grift NED Hamar...
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Jun 1, 2007 6:34 pm
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The 1961 season has been the subject of a major effort to dig up speedskating history a few years ago on this list, season best lists were published by Lars...
Hello everyone, Time for me in this summertime (beautiful weather today here) to ask a speedskating related question. The KNSB this week released the...
The calendar of the N-S-F-site says about it: Internasjonalt jobbes det med, etter forslag fra Norge, å innføre en åpen Europacup før løpere under World...
... That's right. It also says that it is an open European Cup. In Norwegian (like in international) sports lingo, 'open' in connection with regional events...
I'm curious about your reactions to the recent wave of new confessions by top Tour de France cyclists, from 1996 winner Bjarne Riis, Jan Ullrich and others: ...
... That is because he, having admitted his guilt, appears to be more honest than the ones he competed against, I guess. ... Didn't they do so already? At...
The IOC is very hippocryte. The use of doping in GDR is proven beyond doubtt. Still no reacton whatever.. Now they are looking if they could strip Ullrich c.s...
... I be far from vindicate GDR doping customs. But, please, don't be no so ingenuous to believe GDR athletes were the only black sheep in the flock (of this...
Matthias Opatz
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Jun 4, 2007 10:49 am
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You are right Mathias. Leave it as it is. My point was if they strip Ullrich from 2000 medals than they also have to take measures against GDR athletes and a...
... What Riis' admission does is not just expose him as a lying, cheating fraud, but it re-establishes the belief that cycling is the dirtiest sport out there...
Cycling is the dirtiest sport. You could also say. Cycling is the only sport who tries to do something against dopers. What about typicla Amercian sports like...
There's a fundamental difference between those who may have been a part of GDR doping in the 1980s and professional cyclists today - that being that the GDR...
Only one complete answer on this one - thanks T.B.Hansen, and perhaps I should just send you a mail? - but as usual I will post "full pakke" to the list. And...
Of course I take Gerrit's point, though I wouldn't necessarily classify this as hypocracy, and I am *not* opposed to arresting one criminal even when one knows...
... records etc. always talks about MALE skaters. To me it's something of a principle. Doing a lot of things all the time, I'll have to concentrate -- like a...
... But when is someone "a sinner"? The East Germans didn't test positive, neither did the others. And blaming them for being a part of a doping system is one...
The topic was originally started with the mwssage that IOC would investigate if Ullrich, Vinkourov and Klöden (all Telekom in 2000) manipulated in 2000. They...
... You can abolish "eastern" ans "european" in this sentence. Last week (West) German Cycling coach Peter Weibel was suspended from office because of doping...
Matthias Opatz
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Jun 5, 2007 4:15 pm
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Rewriting result lists seems like violating of history to me. One thing is the admitted use of drugs that were both illegal in the sport in question at the ...
The fundamental difference is that at least by assumed conventional wisdom, the Eastern European doping was state-sponsored, and essentially compulsory. The...
I suppose it can be both illuminating and sobering to re-examine all urine and blood samples from the last 20 years of ALL major sports events, using the most...
Rewriting history ? WHAT NONSENCE !!! No, folks - the past is the past, we can do nothing to change that - and what purpose would it gain if we excluded all...
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Jun 6, 2007 6:12 pm
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In the Netherlands we had the famous Ernst Beets, who tested positive of something during the Dutch Nch of december 1967, only to test negative on the contra...
Personally, I'd like to see a re-examination of Gregg LeMonds samples, since he always seems to find himself in the middle of American cycling's doping...
According Fred Anton Maier`s book - "Maier forteller til Knut Bjørnsen", Aschehoug-1968, p96 - Jan Bols was involved in doping summer -67 and disqualified...
These days the Norwegian Skating Federation publish the regional teams for the 2007/08 season. Some skaters are missing: First of all Mari Hemmer, the Stordal...
Is Dan Jansen's 1994 "Full Circle" book published in Dutch? And was it ever really published in Norwegian, or is it merely the case that Det Beste (Reader's...
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