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#24989 From: "Marnix Koolhaas" <m.koolhaas@...>
Date: Fri Apr 1, 2005 12:02 pm
Subject: Dutch Olympic Nominations 		m.koolhaas@...
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From ANP:

Dutch Olympic Nominations Turin 2006 - by NOC*NSF:
Note: more nominations than starting-spots! And no
team-pursuit-nominations?!

Longtrack:

Marianne Timmer (500 en 1000 m),
Frouke Oonk (500),
Renate Groenewold (1500, 3000 en 5000),
Barbara de Loor (1000 en 1500),
Gretha Smit (3000 en 5000),
Moniek Kleinsma (3000 en 5000),
Jenita Hulzebosch-Smit (5000),

Erben Wennemars (500, 1000 en 1500),
Gerard van Velde (500 en 1000),
Jan Bos (1000),
Beorn Nijenhuis (500, 1000 en 1500),
Mark Tuitert (1500),
Simon Kuipers (1000 en 1500),
Bob de Jong (5000 en 10.000),
Gianni Romme (5000 en 10.000),
Carl Verheijen (5000 en 10.000),
Jochem Uytdehaage (5000 en 10.000),
Sven Kramer (5000),
Brigt Rykkje (10.000),
Henk Angenent (10.000).

Shorttrack:

Liesbeth Mau-Asam (500)

Cees Juffermans (1000)

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#24988 From: Speed_skating@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri Apr 1, 2005 3:06 am
Subject: Poll results for Speed_skating 		Speed_skating@yahoogroups.com
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The following Speed_skating poll is now closed.  Here are the
final results:


POLL QUESTION: Do you think the allround world champion
has more prestige than any of the single
distance world champions?

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- Yes., 27 votes, 87.10%
- No, all world champions are equal., 4 votes, 12.90%
- No, the single distance champions have more prestige., 0 votes, 0.00%

INDIVIDUAL VOTES
- Yes.
      - gerpun@...
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- No, all world champions are equal.
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- No, the single distance champions have more prestige.


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#24987 From: "Jos Kloppenborg" <jos.kloppenborg@...>
Date: Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:41 pm
Subject: Re: [Skate] FIFTY 		garzell7
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Not just tomorrow.........
And God doesn't count his days - that's up to us.

Jos

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kees de Vroege" <C.F.deVroege@...>
To: <Speed_skating@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Skate] FIFTY


>
> Irene Postma wrote:
>
>> o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o
>> o.o.o.o.o.o.o.MAY.GOD.BLESS.YOU.o.o.o.o.o.o.o
>> o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o
>
> Probably,
>
> But it looks God wil be joking us tomorrow....
>
> Kees(see cnn)
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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#24986 From: Kees de Vroege <C.F.deVroege@...>
Date: Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Skate] FIFTY 		heyakeessie
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Irene Postma wrote:

> o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o
> o.o.o.o.o.o.o.MAY.GOD.BLESS.YOU.o.o.o.o.o.o.o
> o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o

Probably,

But it looks God wil be joking us tomorrow....

Kees(see cnn)

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#24985 From: "ekraan" <elwiz@...>
Date: Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:43 pm
Subject: new speedskating training program formed in SLC 		ekraan
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Hello guys!

Some news from SLC, since I have not seen it in the list yet.  A new
alternative for skaters that want to train in SLC has emerged, it
might be a good idea to take a look at it.  The website is:
http://www.high5speedskating.com/index.html


From SLC, where I cannot think about skating too much nowadays...
there are almost 200 inches (5 meters) of snow on the mountains and a
good 30+ (76cm) of fluffy new powder that has fallen in the last 72
hours...   Did I hear Mexican ski team??  hehehe!!! :)

Eric Kraan.

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#24984 From: Irene Postma <speedskating@...>
Date: Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:18 am
Subject: FIFTY 		bachliefhebber
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From
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Finsen
To
You

Further
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Five x
Ten
Years

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Tarts
Yoohoo!

Frosted
Ice
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Ten ks
Yes!

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Tenderness,
Youth

For
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Female
Tenderness...
Yearning?

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Intellectual
Fogey
Towards
Yahoo

Finsen,
I
Forgive
Today
You

--
Irene P.
Publisher/Editor Speedskating World

o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o
o.o.o.o.o.o.o.MAY.GOD.BLESS.YOU.o.o.o.o.o.o.o
o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o

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#24983 From: nils@...
Date: Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:03 am
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#24982 From: "Paul Hanlin Jr." <paulhan@...>
Date: Wed Mar 30, 2005 11:39 pm
Subject: Re: [Skate] last call for nominations 		speedsk8fan
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Kees de Vroege wrote:

>Marcel Warnaar wrote:
>
>>Not listed among the nominees is Hendrik Eppinga, who according to
>>http://home.planet.nl/~anekoop1/wedstrijden0405/u94.html skated a new world
record on the 1500 m past monday in Thialf, Heerenveen.
>>
>>PASTE
>>
>>Nr Dln Deelnemer Cat Woonpl. 1500m Totaal Achter
>>1 36 Hendrik Eppinga HSA OUDEMIR 1:43.11 (WR) 34.370
>>
>Darn Marcel!
>You just revealed our secret weapon against Shani Davis.
>WFIW Henrik has announced he won't race in world cups either.
>
>Kees (shhhhtt..don't pass it along...)
>
Hmph!  You're 2 days early with that one ;D

Paul
Paul

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#24981 From: Kees de Vroege <C.F.deVroege@...>
Date: Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:27 pm
Subject: Re: [Skate] last call for nominations 		heyakeessie
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Marcel Warnaar wrote:
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> Not listed among the nominees is Hendrik Eppinga, who according to
> http://home.planet.nl/~anekoop1/wedstrijden0405/u94.html skated a new world
> record on the 1500 m past monday in Thialf, Heerenveen.
>
> PASTE
>
> Nr Dln Deelnemer Cat Woonpl. 1500m Totaal Achter
>
> 1 36 Hendrik Eppinga HSA OUDEMIR 1:43.11 (WR) 34.370

Darn Marcel!
You just revealed our secret weapon against Shani Davis.
WFIW Henrik has announced he won't race in world cups either.

Kees (shhhhtt..don't pass it along...)

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#24980 From: "Ivo van Bommel" <bomstel@...>
Date: Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:10 pm
Subject: RE: [Skate] last call for nominations 		ivovanbommel
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WHAT A JOKE!!!



Ivo



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Van: Marcel Warnaar [mailto:mwarnaar@...]
Verzonden: woensdag 30 maart 2005 22:32
Aan: Speed_skating@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp: [Skate] last call for nominations



Hi,

You can still add your nominations in the various skater-of-the-year
categories on http://www.leidenatletiek.nl/uka2005/nominations.php . We will

be closing the nomination round this weekend. Also this weekend, we will
announce how you can vote...

Not listed among the nominees is Hendrik Eppinga, who according to
http://home.planet.nl/~anekoop1/wedstrijden0405/u94.html skated a new world
record on the 1500 m past monday in Thialf, Heerenveen.

PASTE

Nr Dln Deelnemer Cat Woonpl. 1500m Totaal Achter

1 36 Hendrik Eppinga HSA OUDEMIR 1:43.11 (WR) 34.370
2 3 Marco Lubbers HA1 IJLST 1:55.10 (PB) 38.366 3.996
3 37 Bram Smallenbroek HA1 LEMMER 1:57.34 (PB) 39.113 4.743
4 54 Sibbel Haarsma HB1 SLOTEN 2:06.86 (PB) 42.286 7.916
5 26 Jaring Siemonsma HB1 SCHARST 2:10.10 43.366 8.996
6 34 Age Bokma HSB KOUDUM 2:12.01 44.003 9.633
7 39 Trienus Schaper HVA BAKHUIZ 2:28.85 49.616 15.246
8 35 Robert van Hardevel HVA OUWSTER 2:29.35 49.783 15.413
9 41 Jennie van der Lage DN3 BALK 2:32.62 50.873 16.503
10 15 Ineke Duyf DB2 HEMELUM 2:35.60 51.866 17.496
11 38 Rinnie van der Pal HSB STAVORE 2:40.41 53.470 19.100
31 Hendrik Veenstra HVB OUDEHAS DQ (DQ)






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#24979 From: Irene Postma <irenep@...>
Date: Wed Mar 30, 2005 5:54 pm
Subject: To Lars 		irenep@...
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Hi Lars

Which day exactly is your birthday?
I wish it's a good day
and that it will be a educational year where you discover great things.

--
Irene P.
Publisher/Editor Speedskating World

o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o
o.o.o.o.o.o.o.MAY.GOD.BLESS.YOU.o.o.o.o.o.o.o
o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o

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#24978 From: Marcel Warnaar <mwarnaar@...>
Date: Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:32 pm
Subject: last call for nominations 		mfwarnaar
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Hi,

You can still add your nominations in the various skater-of-the-year
categories on http://www.leidenatletiek.nl/uka2005/nominations.php . We will
be closing the nomination round this weekend. Also this weekend, we will
announce how you can vote...

Not listed among the nominees is Hendrik Eppinga, who according to
http://home.planet.nl/~anekoop1/wedstrijden0405/u94.html skated a new world
record on the 1500 m past monday in Thialf, Heerenveen.

PASTE

Nr Dln Deelnemer Cat Woonpl. 1500m Totaal Achter

1 36 Hendrik Eppinga HSA OUDEMIR 1:43.11 (WR) 34.370
2 3 Marco Lubbers HA1 IJLST 1:55.10 (PB) 38.366 3.996
3 37 Bram Smallenbroek HA1 LEMMER 1:57.34 (PB) 39.113 4.743
4 54 Sibbel Haarsma HB1 SLOTEN 2:06.86 (PB) 42.286 7.916
5 26 Jaring Siemonsma HB1 SCHARST 2:10.10 43.366 8.996
6 34 Age Bokma HSB KOUDUM 2:12.01 44.003 9.633
7 39 Trienus Schaper HVA BAKHUIZ 2:28.85 49.616 15.246
8 35 Robert van Hardevel HVA OUWSTER 2:29.35 49.783 15.413
9 41 Jennie van der Lage DN3 BALK 2:32.62 50.873 16.503
10 15 Ineke Duyf DB2 HEMELUM 2:35.60 51.866 17.496
11 38 Rinnie van der Pal HSB STAVORE 2:40.41 53.470 19.100
31 Hendrik Veenstra HVB OUDEHAS DQ (DQ)

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#24977 From: "Hans Wilbrink" <hanswilbrink@...>
Date: Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:55 pm
Subject: RE: [Skate] New worldrecord one hour skating ladies 		amersfoort20...
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Not all laptimes yet, only a little more info:
Maria Sterk (25) did more than 91 laps and most of the laps were in the 39
seconds (avarage 39,5) and only a few laps were in the 40 seconds.
Sterk didn't had big problems during the hour. 'I had to make 90 laps of 40
seconds but I went faster.' After 10 km she had already one minute profit.

Correct distance: 36 km 441 m 26 cm by Maria.
The old recordholder, Lilian van Tol, was in the audience: 'After two laps I
knew Maria should make it. Her first laptimes were 39,5, while I did 41,5's
in 1987. But the two races aren't comparable. I used the traditonal
Norwegian skates and Sterk the clapskates.'




-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Lars Finsen [mailto:gilskate@...]
Verzonden: dinsdag 29 maart 2005 17:40
Aan: Speed_skating@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp: Re: [Skate] New worldrecord one hour skating ladies


Jan van Oosterom wrote:
>
> 36.430 km by Maria Sterk in Heerenveen today!

Any laptimes anywhere?

LEF

...from Redalsgrend, where the snowdrops and crocuses are flowering in
great bunches and the primulas and the lesser celandines are coming...




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#24976 From: "Machiel Smit" <machielsmit@...>
Date: Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:22 pm
Subject: Re: [Skate] New worldrecord one hour skating ladies 		machielsmit
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--- In Speed_skating@yahoogroups.com, Lars Finsen <gilskate@e...>
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> Jan van Oosterom wrote:
> >
> > 36.430 km by Maria Sterk in Heerenveen today!
>
> Any laptimes anywhere?
>
> LEF
>


36430 meters are about 91 laps, this means a average of 39,53 sec per
round. The worldrecord one hour skating for ladies was: 34501 meters
by Lilian van Tol, but this was skated on fixed skates. Maria Sterk
skated 1929 meters more than Lilian, or as you wish skated (41,74 -
39,53) 2,21 seconds faster per round.

The laptimes are unknown to me

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#24975 From: Lars Finsen <gilskate@...>
Date: Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Skate] New worldrecord one hour skating ladies 		uttrediay
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Jan van Oosterom wrote:
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> 36.430 km by Maria Sterk in Heerenveen today!

Any laptimes anywhere?

LEF

...from Redalsgrend, where the snowdrops and crocuses are flowering in
great bunches and the primulas and the lesser celandines are coming...

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#24974 From: Jan van Oosterom <jan@...>
Date: Tue Mar 29, 2005 12:59 pm
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36.430 km by Maria Sterk in Heerenveen today!

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#24973 From: "klop418" <a.wils@...>
Date: Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:01 pm
Subject: dutch statistic 6 distances help needed 		klop418
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Hello,

I am busy to make a ranking of the best dutch riders
over 6 distances.

My problem is that I have no information before season 1979/1980

I would like before 79/80 for the 500m every skater between
41.31 and 42.00

I would like before 79/80 for the 1000m every skater between
1.2428 and 1.26.00

I would like before 79/80 for the 1500m every skater between
2.0871 and 2.11.00

I would like before 79/80 for the 3000m every skater between
4.32.81 and 4.38.00

I would like before 79/80 for the 5000 m every skater between
7.52.81  and 8.05.00

I already have received the information about the 10km

Thank you,

Arjan Wils

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#24972 From: "klop418" <a.wils@...>
Date: Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:41 pm
Subject: Re: [Skate] dutch statistic 10 km before season 79/80 		klop418
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Thank you very much for your quick reply



--- In Speed_skating@yahoogroups.com, "Preben G. Petersen" <pgp@p...>
wrote:
> The dutch 10 km list after the 1979-80 season:
>
>         Rik van Vliet                16.46.8    1
Amsterdam         10.3.74
>         Sicco Cazemier               16.46.9    5
Groningen         27.1.80
>         Henk Waanders                16.47.3    6
Inzell             2.1.71
>         Piet de Rijke                16.47.9   14
Heerenveen        12.1.69
>         Jan Veldt                    16.48.0    5
Inzell            22.2.80
>         Jan Warner Pol               16.49.0    8
Inzell             1.2.70
>         Herman Fokker                16.49.9    8
Utrecht           11.3.80
>         Piet den Dunnen              16.50.5    2  Zakopane
> 28.12.72
>         Gerard van Gelder            16.51.07  11
Heerenveen        14.1.73
>         Jaap Swaagman                16.51.3    2
Groningen          1.3.77
>         Joop van der Berg            16.52.0    9
Madonna           17.1.65
>         Rien de Jager                16.52.2    1
Utrecht           14.1.73
>         Bennie Kluiter               16.53.3    1
Groningen          4.3.80
>         Henk van der Grift           16.53.6    3  Göteborg
U        19.2.61
>         Klaas Dekker                 16.53.9    1  Grefrath
> 23.12.76
>         Henk van der Ploeg           16.55.2    7
Utrecht           30.1.77
>         Tette Hooghiemster           16.55.5    5
Groningen         12.2.78
>         Ton Groot                    16.55.5    9  Alkmaar
> 18.12.78
>         Jan Posthuma                 16.55.6    7
Deventer          30.1.79
>         Piet Meijer                  16.55.7    9
Amsterdam          8.1.67
>         Wim Voorneveld               16.55.7    6
Groningen         12.2.78
>         Douwe de Wit                 16.58.2       Heerenveen
> 23.12.74
>         Folkert Schmitz              16.58.2    8
Utrecht           30.1.77
>         Lubbert van der Molen        16.59.4    2
Groningen          4.3.80
>         Henk Louwmans                16.59.8    3
Utrecht            7.3.78
>         Ab Krook                     17.00.4    3
Zakopane          21.1.68
>         Toon van der Wurff           17.01.2    4
Utrecht            1.1.78
>         Wim Zwaan                    17.01.5    1
Davos             29.1.67
>         Jan Berkhout                 17.01.6   10  Alkmaar
> 18.12.78
>         Richard den Oudsten          17.01.8    3
Utrecht           22.1.78
>         Rob Heeres                   17.02.0    2  Grefrath
> 23.12.76
>         Hajo Haanstra                17.02.1    1
Eindhoven         11.3.79
>         Jan Hendrik Koops            17.03.3    5
Rovaniemi          5.4.70
>         Klaas Sminia                 17.03.4    3
Groningen          4.3.80
>         Jeen van den Berg            17.04.4    4
Davos              7.2.60
>         Bennie van der Weide         17.04.4       Heerenveen
> 23.12.74
>         Djurre Bolt                  17.04.4    4
Groningen          4.3.80
>         Dominicus Huitema            17.04.7    2
Davos             29.1.67
>         Jan Visschers                17.04.7    4
Deventer          10.3.80
>         Frans Kors                   17.05.4    1
Haarlem           18.2.78
>         Piet van der Zwaag           17.05.7    2
Groningen         13.2.72
>         Huub Snoep                   17.06.1    2
Haarlem           18.2.78
>         Willy van Essen              17.06.3    1
Deventer          10.3.80
>         Wim Wagemans                 17.06.9    3
Groningen          1.3.77
>         Bert Huysman                 17.07.5
Eindhoven         18.1.75
>         Ludwig Meyering              17.08.1   12
Madonna           17.1.65
>         Oege Ferwerda                17.09.0   10
Groningen         12.2.78
>         Bart Swierstra               17.10.1
Zakopane          26.1.79
>         Bert Garagoski               17.10.5    3  Zakopane
> 31.12.67
>         Tjitte Tuinier               17.10.5
Groningen          8.2.76
>         Henk Beltman                 17.11.1    4
Zakopane          21.1.68
>         Ge Draayer                   17.11.8    5
Deventer          10.3.80
>         Jos Dielis                   17.11.9    3
Eindhoven         11.3.79
>         Gerard Maarse                17.12.3   16
Davos             21.1.56
>         Wiecher Oosterwoud           17.12.6    7
Groningen         27.1.80
>         Evert Uitham                 17.13.3    4
Groningen          8.3.79
>         Gerard Albers                17.14.1    3  Utrecht
> 22.12.75
>         Arie Rooymans                17.14.9    1
Inzell            19.2.80
>         Sytse Faber                  17.15.0    5
Groningen          4.3.80
>         Wim Borgers                  17.15.1   11  Amsterdam
> 17.12.67
>         Peter Vos                    17.15.2    2
Deventer          12.3.80
>         Piet Wassenaar               17.15.5    6
Groningen          4.3.80
>         Jan de Vries                 17.15.6   14
Amsterdam          8.1.67
>         Zwier Selles                 17.15.8    1
Inzell             9.1.66
>         Anne Lagerwey                17.16.2    9
Inzell            13.2.72
>         Jan de Pijper                17.17.5    1
Inzell            21.2.75
>         Joop Brooijmans              17.17.8    4
Eindhoven         11.3.79
>         Hendrik van Prooije          17.17.8    -
Groningen         27.1.80
>         Piet Modder                  17.18.0   11  Deventer
> 27.12.65
>         Bart Honings                 17.18.4    3
Groningen         16.2.74
>         Jan Mantel                   17.18.4    4
Haarlem           18.2.78
>         Anton Huiskes                17.18.9    5  Hamar
S           10.2.52
>         Maarten de Roon              17.19.1       Inzell
> 68
>         Derk Mast                    17.19.3
Groningen          8.2.76
>         Chiel van der Garde          17.20.6    4
Davos             29.1.67
>         Egbert Vossebelt             17.20.7    3
Deventer          12.3.80
>         Bert de Jong                 17.21.74  12
Groningen         11.1.76
>         Henk Portengen               17.21.9    3
Amsterdam         13.3.80
>
>         Jan van Swaay                17.22.8    7
Amsterdam          3.1.65
>         Robert Oosterveld            17.22.9    9  Deventer
> 13.12.77
>         Sjoerd Kooistra              17.23.0    4
Haarlem            8.2.78
>         Jan Huitema                  17.24.7    7
Groningen          4.3.80
>         Evert Meinardi               17.24.7    7
Groningen          4.3.80
>         Han Wijlens                  17.24.7    4
Deventer          12.3.80
>         Engel Vermaat                17.25.8    6
Haarlem            8.2.78
>         Jan Hopman                   17.26.0    6
Madonna           20.1.63
>         Peter van Nek                17.26.1    5
Groningen          8.3.79
>         Giel Vervoort                17.26.5    6
Eindhoven         11.3.79
>         Wim Beker                    17.26.7    6
Deventer          10.3.80
>         Teun de Boer                 17.26.9   19
Groningen         18.2.79
>         Peter van Leeuwen            17.27.5    7
Eindhoven         11.3.79
>         Martin Horstman              17.28.0    5
Haarlem           18.2.78
>         Jan Langedijk                17.28.2    3
Davos              6.2.38
>         Wim van der Voort            17.28.8    7
Davos              6.2.49
>         Cor Schoon                   17.29.0   11  Alkmaar
> 18.12.78
>         Ton van Velzen               17.29.8    7
Haarlem            8.2.78
>         Ruud Ruiterman               17.29.9   20
Groningen         18.2.79
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#24971 From: "Preben G. Petersen" <pgp@...>
Date: Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:03 pm
Subject: Re: [Skate] dutch statistic 10 km before season 79/80 		pgorudp
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The dutch 10 km list after the 1979-80 season:

         Rik van Vliet                16.46.8    1  Amsterdam         10.3.74
         Sicco Cazemier               16.46.9    5  Groningen         27.1.80
         Henk Waanders                16.47.3    6  Inzell             2.1.71
         Piet de Rijke                16.47.9   14  Heerenveen        12.1.69
         Jan Veldt                    16.48.0    5  Inzell            22.2.80
         Jan Warner Pol               16.49.0    8  Inzell             1.2.70
         Herman Fokker                16.49.9    8  Utrecht           11.3.80
         Piet den Dunnen              16.50.5    2  Zakopane
28.12.72
         Gerard van Gelder            16.51.07  11  Heerenveen        14.1.73
         Jaap Swaagman                16.51.3    2  Groningen          1.3.77
         Joop van der Berg            16.52.0    9  Madonna           17.1.65
         Rien de Jager                16.52.2    1  Utrecht           14.1.73
         Bennie Kluiter               16.53.3    1  Groningen          4.3.80
         Henk van der Grift           16.53.6    3  Göteborg U        19.2.61
         Klaas Dekker                 16.53.9    1  Grefrath
23.12.76
         Henk van der Ploeg           16.55.2    7  Utrecht           30.1.77
         Tette Hooghiemster           16.55.5    5  Groningen         12.2.78
         Ton Groot                    16.55.5    9  Alkmaar
18.12.78
         Jan Posthuma                 16.55.6    7  Deventer          30.1.79
         Piet Meijer                  16.55.7    9  Amsterdam          8.1.67
         Wim Voorneveld               16.55.7    6  Groningen         12.2.78
         Douwe de Wit                 16.58.2       Heerenveen
23.12.74
         Folkert Schmitz              16.58.2    8  Utrecht           30.1.77
         Lubbert van der Molen        16.59.4    2  Groningen          4.3.80
         Henk Louwmans                16.59.8    3  Utrecht            7.3.78
         Ab Krook                     17.00.4    3  Zakopane          21.1.68
         Toon van der Wurff           17.01.2    4  Utrecht            1.1.78
         Wim Zwaan                    17.01.5    1  Davos             29.1.67
         Jan Berkhout                 17.01.6   10  Alkmaar
18.12.78
         Richard den Oudsten          17.01.8    3  Utrecht           22.1.78
         Rob Heeres                   17.02.0    2  Grefrath
23.12.76
         Hajo Haanstra                17.02.1    1  Eindhoven         11.3.79
         Jan Hendrik Koops            17.03.3    5  Rovaniemi          5.4.70
         Klaas Sminia                 17.03.4    3  Groningen          4.3.80
         Jeen van den Berg            17.04.4    4  Davos              7.2.60
         Bennie van der Weide         17.04.4       Heerenveen
23.12.74
         Djurre Bolt                  17.04.4    4  Groningen          4.3.80
         Dominicus Huitema            17.04.7    2  Davos             29.1.67
         Jan Visschers                17.04.7    4  Deventer          10.3.80
         Frans Kors                   17.05.4    1  Haarlem           18.2.78
         Piet van der Zwaag           17.05.7    2  Groningen         13.2.72
         Huub Snoep                   17.06.1    2  Haarlem           18.2.78
         Willy van Essen              17.06.3    1  Deventer          10.3.80
         Wim Wagemans                 17.06.9    3  Groningen          1.3.77
         Bert Huysman                 17.07.5       Eindhoven         18.1.75
         Ludwig Meyering              17.08.1   12  Madonna           17.1.65
         Oege Ferwerda                17.09.0   10  Groningen         12.2.78
         Bart Swierstra               17.10.1       Zakopane          26.1.79
         Bert Garagoski               17.10.5    3  Zakopane
31.12.67
         Tjitte Tuinier               17.10.5       Groningen          8.2.76
         Henk Beltman                 17.11.1    4  Zakopane          21.1.68
         Ge Draayer                   17.11.8    5  Deventer          10.3.80
         Jos Dielis                   17.11.9    3  Eindhoven         11.3.79
         Gerard Maarse                17.12.3   16  Davos             21.1.56
         Wiecher Oosterwoud           17.12.6    7  Groningen         27.1.80
         Evert Uitham                 17.13.3    4  Groningen          8.3.79
         Gerard Albers                17.14.1    3  Utrecht
22.12.75
         Arie Rooymans                17.14.9    1  Inzell            19.2.80
         Sytse Faber                  17.15.0    5  Groningen          4.3.80
         Wim Borgers                  17.15.1   11  Amsterdam
17.12.67
         Peter Vos                    17.15.2    2  Deventer          12.3.80
         Piet Wassenaar               17.15.5    6  Groningen          4.3.80
         Jan de Vries                 17.15.6   14  Amsterdam          8.1.67
         Zwier Selles                 17.15.8    1  Inzell             9.1.66
         Anne Lagerwey                17.16.2    9  Inzell            13.2.72
         Jan de Pijper                17.17.5    1  Inzell            21.2.75
         Joop Brooijmans              17.17.8    4  Eindhoven         11.3.79
         Hendrik van Prooije          17.17.8    -  Groningen         27.1.80
         Piet Modder                  17.18.0   11  Deventer
27.12.65
         Bart Honings                 17.18.4    3  Groningen         16.2.74
         Jan Mantel                   17.18.4    4  Haarlem           18.2.78
         Anton Huiskes                17.18.9    5  Hamar S           10.2.52
         Maarten de Roon              17.19.1       Inzell
68
         Derk Mast                    17.19.3       Groningen          8.2.76
         Chiel van der Garde          17.20.6    4  Davos             29.1.67
         Egbert Vossebelt             17.20.7    3  Deventer          12.3.80
         Bert de Jong                 17.21.74  12  Groningen         11.1.76
         Henk Portengen               17.21.9    3  Amsterdam         13.3.80

         Jan van Swaay                17.22.8    7  Amsterdam          3.1.65
         Robert Oosterveld            17.22.9    9  Deventer
13.12.77
         Sjoerd Kooistra              17.23.0    4  Haarlem            8.2.78
         Jan Huitema                  17.24.7    7  Groningen          4.3.80
         Evert Meinardi               17.24.7    7  Groningen          4.3.80
         Han Wijlens                  17.24.7    4  Deventer          12.3.80
         Engel Vermaat                17.25.8    6  Haarlem            8.2.78
         Jan Hopman                   17.26.0    6  Madonna           20.1.63
         Peter van Nek                17.26.1    5  Groningen          8.3.79
         Giel Vervoort                17.26.5    6  Eindhoven         11.3.79
         Wim Beker                    17.26.7    6  Deventer          10.3.80
         Teun de Boer                 17.26.9   19  Groningen         18.2.79
         Peter van Leeuwen            17.27.5    7  Eindhoven         11.3.79
         Martin Horstman              17.28.0    5  Haarlem           18.2.78
         Jan Langedijk                17.28.2    3  Davos              6.2.38
         Wim van der Voort            17.28.8    7  Davos              6.2.49
         Cor Schoon                   17.29.0   11  Alkmaar
18.12.78
         Ton van Velzen               17.29.8    7  Haarlem            8.2.78
         Ruud Ruiterman               17.29.9   20  Groningen         18.2.79

Preben

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> In "schaatsseizoen 1979/1980" is Gert Wingelaar the last skater
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> I would like to find out what skaters from holland
> before season 1979- 1980 has skated between 17.00 and 17.30
> Please help me?
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#24970 From: "Dirk Broer" <Dirk_P_Broer@...>
Date: Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:21 am
Subject: Re: [Skate] dutch statistic 10 km before season 79/80 		dirk_p_broer
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How many men do you expect to meet that criterium?

Any season, or all-time at the end of the 79/80 season between 17.00 and
17.30?

End 1964 these men met your criterium (Schenk was nr. 8 on the Dutch list,
van der Voort nr. 12)

       Ard Schenk Anna Paulowna 19440916 NED 17.00.6 13     Helsinki-Olympia
23-02-1964
       Wim van Heijst Haarsteeg 1940 NED 17.04.5 3     Berlin-O 29-12-1963
       Jeen van den Berg Heerenveen 19280108 NED 17.04.4 4     Davos
07-02-1960
       Peter Nottet Loosduinen 19440923 NED 17.05.6 8     Gjøvik 02-01-1964
       Gerard Maarse Beverwijk 19290301 NED 17.12.3 16     Davos 21-01-1956
       Anton Huiskes Maarn 19280305 NED 17.18.9 5     Hamar-Stadion
10-02-1952
       Joop van der Berg Woerden 1943 NED 17.21.0 5     Madonna di Campiglio
20-01-1963
       Jan Hopman Egmond aan den Hoef  NED 17.26.0 6     Madonna di Campiglio
20-01-1963
       Jan Langedijk Stompetoren 19100727 NED 17.28.2 3     Davos 06-02-1938
       Wim van der Voort 's-Gravenzande 19230324 NED 17.28.8 7     Davos
06-02-1949


in 1972 Wim van der Voort was nr. 62 on the Dutch list, while Piet van de
Zwaag was nr. 44 with 17.05.7
that season saw 3 men with a season pr in your criterium

in 1974 the 17.00 cohort was headed by Ab Krook ( 17.00.4) at nr. 53 and
Rolf Sibrandy (!) was nr. 78 with 17.29.3
that season saw 5 men with a season pr in your criterium

in 1976 the 17.00 cohort was still headed by Ab Krook ( 17.00.4) at nr. 68
and Ben van de Wetering was nr. 108 with 17.29.4
that season saw 17 men with a season pr in your criterium

The 1978 season brought yet another 21 results in your criterium range

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> In "schaatsseizoen 1979/1980" is Gert Wingelaar the last skater
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> I would like to find out what skaters from holland
> before season 1979- 1980 has skated between 17.00 and 17.30
> Please help me?
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#24969 From: "klop418" <a.wils@...>
Date: Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:29 am
Subject: dutch statistic 10 km before season 79/80 		klop418
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In "schaatsseizoen 1979/1980" is Gert Wingelaar the last skater
off the 10km with the time 16.45.82.
I would like to find out what skaters from holland
before season 1979- 1980 has skated between 17.00 and 17.30
Please help me?

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#24968 From: "Tis Franssen" <j.franssen3@...>
Date: Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:52 am
Subject: RE: [Skate] Results 39th all the Japanese selection,Morioka, Feb.26&27 		tisfranssen
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Dear Shunsuke Takenaka,

I am sorry, it took so long to react.
Thank you for sending these results.
We will compare the results with what we found already(names transcription).

I am still hoping you can send me the All Shinshu and Nagano sprint results.
There is not a direct need to translate results,
If you send the results in Japanese, I will send you the translated version
as soon as I finished it.

Kind regards,
Tis Franssen
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Onderwerp: [Skate] Results 39th all the Japanese selection,Morioka,
Feb.26&27





Men's500m
  1 Ryohei SHIMIZU    74.15 36.97(1)  37.18(1)
  2 Kazuo TERASHIMA   75.44 37.48(3)  37.96(4)
  3 Shintaro KONNO    75.47 37.70(4)  37.77(2)
  4 Yutaro SHINOHARA  75.55 37.46(5)  37.79(3)
  5 Akio OHTA         76.23 38.09(8)  38.14(6)
  6 Suguru ONO        76.24 38.15(10) 38.09(5)
  7 Masataka NISHIDA  76.75 38.34(12) 38.41(8)
  8 Yasuhito NISIMURA 76.87 37.95(6)  38.92(14) FS
  9 Takayuki NUMAZAKI 76.90 38.26(11) 38.64(10)
10 Ryouhei HAGA      76.94 38.12(9)  38.82(13)
11 Yukihiro TOMIOKA  77.10 38.53(13) 38.57(9)
12 Kou NAKAMURA      77.23 38.59(14) 38.64(10)
13 Tomonori KAWATA   77.31 38.93(18) 38.38(7)
14 Ryusuke YAMAKOSHI 77.31 38.66(16) 38.65(12)
15 Shinsuke MIYAZAKI 77.68 38.59(14) 39.09(16)
16 Shingo SUGIYAMA   78.10 38.59(19) 39.15(17)
17 Satoru AOYAMA     78.32 39.27(21) 39.05(15)
18 Yudai NATORI      78.38 38.82(17) 39.56(21)
19 Masataka SUZUKI   78.50 39.21(20) 39.29(20)
20 Shota MIYAMURA    78.62 39.40(22) 39.22(18)
21 Yugou SASAKI      78.84 39.61(25) 39.23(19)
22 Tsukasa OHWADA    79.23 39.58(24) 39.65(22)
23 Satoru MIKAMI     79.24 39.47(26) 39.77(23)
24 Naoki YASUDA      80.32 39.78(26) 40.54(24)
25 Ryota KOMATSU    100.73 37.97(7) 1.02.76(25)
-  Toru SUZUKI         --  37.40(2)     NF

Men's 1000m
  1 Yutaro KONNO       1.14.72
  2 Yuta WAKABAYASHI   1.15.27
  3 Kazuo TERASHIMA    1.15.76
  3 Fuminori SAIKAWA   1.15.76
  5 Kouichiro YODA     1.15.79
  6 Taichi SUGIMOTO    1.15.82
  7 Suguru ONO         1.15.87
  8 Yukihiro TOMIOKA   1.15.94
  9 Yutaro SHINOHARA   1.15.98
10 Ryohei SHIMIZU     1.16.01
11 Takayuki NUMAZAKI  1.16.32
12 Yasuhito NISIMURA  1.16.37
13 Kou NAKAMURA       1.16.50
14 Eiji KOHARA        1.16.62
14 Satoru AOYAMA      1.16.62
16 Shintaro OSANAI    1.16.85
17 Shuji SUGAWARA     1.16.97
18 Masataka NISHIDA   1.17.08
19 Shintaro YAMATE    1.17.25 FS
20 Toru SUZUKI        1.17.27
21 Ryota KOMATSU      1.17.31
22 Yuki KAWAGISHI     1.17.36
23 Masahito HISHINUMA 1.17.38
24 Akio OHTA          1.17.61
25 Tsukasa OHWADA     1.18.12
26 Yudai NATORI       1.18.28
27 Tomonori KAWATA    1.18.38
28 Shingo SUGIYAMA    1.18.48
29 Ryusuke YAMAKOSI   1.18.57
30 Shinsuke MIYAZAKI  1.18.73
31 Shota MIYAMURA     1.18.89
32 Suguru TANAKA      1.19.02
33 Masataka SUZUKI    1.19.43
34 Kunihiko KONDO     1.19.47
35 Yugo SASAKI        1.19.56
36 Satoru MIKAMI      1.19.59
37 Ryouhei HAGA       1.20.08
-  Sadatoshi NAKAJIMA  DNS
-  Kazuki ENDO         DNF
-  Kazuaki KOBAYASHI   DQ

Men's1500m
  1 Yuta WAKABAYASHI    1.57.31
  2 Yasuhiro SHINOHARA  1.57.40
  3 Shingo DOI          1.57.58
  4 Fuminori SAIKAWA    1.58.00
  5 Eiji KOHARA         1.57.47
  6 Taichi SUGIMOTO     1.59.05
  7 Mamoru ISHIOKA      1.59.12
  8 Kazuaki KOBAYASHI   1.59.25
  9 Kazuki TAKAMURA     1.59.83
10 Masaki NITTA        1.59.91
11 Masahito HISHINUMA  2.00.15
12 Shintaro YAMATE     2.00.30
13 Yasuyuki ONO        2.00.34
13 Akitoshi SAIKAWA    2.00.34
15 Hiroki KUROSAKA     2.00.72
16 Shintaro OSANAI     2.01.10
17 Naoto TSUCHIYA      2.01.22
18 Masayoshi SHIMOMURA 2.01.50
19 Shuji SUGAWARA      2.01.63
20 Shou SATO           2.01.87
21 Suguru TANAKA       2.02.89
22 Yoshihiro KATO      2.03.25
23 Noriaki TSUBOI      2.04.16
24 Hiroaki ITAKURA     2.04.28
25 Kouichiro YODA      2.04.32
26 Kazuki ENDO         2.04.98
27 Yuki KAWAGISHI      2.05.18
28 Kunihiko KONDO      2.20.17

Men's5000m
  1 Shinya KUROIWA      7.21.80
  2 Yasuhiro SHINOHARA  7.22.27
  3 Shigeyuki DEJIMA    7.26.96
  4 Katsunori SATO      7.29.33
  5 Seitaro OHTOGE      7.30.63
  6 Yasuyuki ONO        7.32.07
  7 Genki MATSUOKA      7.34.26
  8 Yusuke HIRAMORI     7.34.91
  8 Shingo DOI          7.34.91
10 Mamoru ISHIOKA      7.35.33
11 Rio TAKAHASHI       7.35.80
12 Nobumitsu KUROSAKA  7.35.95
13 Masayoshi SHIMOMURA 7.39.24
14 Kouichi SHIMIZU     7.39.24
15 Kazuki YOSHINO      7.41.03
16 Mitihiro ARA        7.41.37
17 Hiroki KUROSAKA     7.42.17
18 Shintaro ENDO       7.42.67
19 Naoto TSUCHIYA      7.44.43
20 Teppei MORI         7.44.82
21 Masaki HASEGAWA     7.45.96
22 Akitoshi SAIKAWA    7.47.41
23 Ginji FUJISHIRO     7.47.50
24 Kazuya SHINKAI      7.48.50
25 Masaki NITTA        7.49.71
26 Kenji MURATA        7.53.26
27 Masayoshi ENDO      7.56.56
28 Shou SATO           7.58.65
29 Hiroaki MATSUKURA   8.01.29
30 Noriaki TSUBOI      8.06.48
-- Kouki AIZAWA          NF

Men's 10000m
  1 Seitaro OHTOGE   14.17.47
  2 Shigeyuki DEJIMA 14.25.76
  3 Genki MATSUOKA   14.32.20
  4 Nobumitu KUROIWA 14.37.40
  5 Katsunori SATO   14.37.91
  6 Shinya KUROIWA   14.38.25
  7 Yusuke HIRAMORI  14.39.35
  8 Michihiro ARA    14.45.11
  9 Shintaro ENDO    14.49.98
10 Ginji HUJISHIRO  14.59.76
11 Teppei MORI      15.00.73
12 Kazuya SHINKAI   15.01.90
13 Kouichi SHIMIZU  15.13.01
14 Masaki HASEGAWA  15.18.01
15 Kouki AIZAWA     15.18.61
16 Kazuki YOSHINO   15.23.04
17 Kenji MURATA     15.24.11

Women's 500m
  1 Aya KAJIKI        83.23 41.31(1)  41.92(3)
  2 Jyunko OHSUGA     83.24 41.64(3)  41.60(1)
  3 Maki TSUJI        83.25 41.56(2)  41.69(2)
  4 Tomoko KAWADA     84.35 41.99(4)  42.36(4)
  5 Fumie KUROSAWA    85.78 42.72(6)  43.06(5)
  6 Asami HOTTA       86.09 42.90(9)  43.19(6)
  7 Risa HORI         86.15 42.89(8)  43.26(7)
  8 Miki HARA         86.16 42.49(5)  43.67(9)
  9 Nao KODAIRA       86.58 42.72(6)  43.86(11)
10 Takara SATO       86.80 43.54(12) 43.26(7)
11 Kana TAKAHASHI    87.16 43.42(11) 43.74(10)
12 Shizue ITO        87.30 43.38(10) 43.92(12)
13 Yukana NISHINA    87.78 43.75(15) 44.03(13)
14 Sanna OGAWA       88.20 43.55(13) 44.65(14)
15 Asuka TAKAHASHI   88.75 43.74(14) 45.01(16)
16 Arisa GO          89.34 44.45(16) 44.89(15)
17 Yoshimi YOSHIMURA 89.98 44.91(18) 45.07(17)
18 Naomi TSUTIYA     90.67 44.51(17) 46.16(19)
19 Atsumi HIGUCHI    91.17 45.27(19) 45.90(18)

Women's 1000m
  1 Yuki MATSUDA 1.23.98
  2 Jyunko OHSUGA 1.25.19
  3 Takara SATO 1.25.44
  4 Azusa SOGAWA 1.25.84
  5 Yukana NISHINA 1.26.24
  6 Eri NATORI 1.26.52
  7 Chiaki ASAKURA 1.26.54
  8 Asami HOTTA 1.26.87
  9 Nao ISHII 1.27.11
10 Mai IKEDA 1.27.46
11 Shizue ITO 1.28.07
12 Arisa GO 1.28.25
13 Naomi Tsuchiya 1.28.35
14 Minako MERA 1.28.93
15 Haruka SUGO 1.29.14
16 Sanna OGAWA 1.29.17
17 Asuka TAKAHASHI 1.29.40
18 Nobuko YAMADA 1.29.78
19 Yoshimi YOSHIMURA 1.30.95
20 Atsumi HIGUCHI 1.31.11

Women's 1500m
  1 Yuri OBARA      2.08.63
  2 Yuki MATSUDA    2.10.03
  3 Minatsu ONODERA 2.10.31
  4 Nao KODAIRA     2.12.33
  5 Risa HORI       2.13.66
  6 Aya KAJIKI      2.14.00
  7 Shiho ISHIDA    2.15.70
  8 Teruyo YAJIMA   2.16.06
  9 Minami ARIKAWA  2.16.35
10 Fumie KUROSAWA  2.16.54
11 Ayumi FUJIMURA  2.16.96
12 Kana TAKAHASHI  2.17.06
13 Miki HARA       2.17.20
14 Tomoko KAWADA   2.17.66
15 Chiaki ASAKURA  2.18.94
16 Mai IKEDA       2.19.16
17 Haruka SUGO     2.22.15
18 Madoka IMAI     2.22.69
19 Yuka TARUISHI   2.24.56
-- Nao ISHII        DNS

Women's 3000m
  1 Minatsu ONODERA 4.34.37
  2 Yuri OBARA      4.34.76
  3 Ayaka KIKUCHI   4.41.12
  4 Minami ARIKAWA  4.41.20
  5 Miho HOTTA      4.42.59
  6 Teruyo YAJIMA   4.42.82
  7 Maki TSUJI      4.42.82
  8 Erika OKI       4.42.85
  9 Yuko FUJISAWA   4.43.53
10 Yuka WAKAYAMA   4.43.67
11 Yu SHIMOJI      4.46.85
12 Ayumi FUJIMURA  4.48.55
13 Shiho ISHIDA    5.02.19
14 Yuka TARUISHI   5.07.39

Women's 5000m
  1 Eri NATORI 7.59.72
  2 Ayaka KIKUCHI 8.01.81
  3 Erika OKI 8.01.81
  4 Yuko FUJISAWA 8.05.82
  5 Yuka WAKAYAMA 8.06.38
  6 Miho HOTTA 8.10.69
  7 Nobuko YAMADA 8.10.85
  8 Azusa SOGAWA 8.13.29
  9 Yu SHIMOJI 8.22.24
10 Minako MERA 8.23.71
11 Asami HASEGAWA 8.29.95
12 Madoka IMAI 8.35.66










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#24967 From: Gerrit Stevens <gerstenat@...>
Date: Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:40 am
Subject: Re: [Skate] Stille flyter Don 		gerritjstevens
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Dirk Scheringa is also the sponsor of the Dutch soccer team AZ (formerly
AZ'67)
There is another connection to speedskating. Keeper Henk Timmer has a
relation with Marianne Timmer (not family related),

Gerrit Stevens

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>> Prof Hjort (who's presence at Duke has me paying attention with a rooting
>> interest to the this "March Madness" thing when I am usually
>> indifferent, as
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>> sports
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>>> So our world is becoming more international.
>>> I hope YACHT or Danske Stats-Baner (who appear
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>> I thought "DSB" was short for "Dutch Savings Bank"...
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#24966 From: "John Diemont" <speedskating@...>
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"This doctor phoned up his patient, he said "Jim I have some bad news, and some
really
bad news. First I'll tell you the bad news, your only have 24 hours to live, and
now for the
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#24965 From: Kees de Vroege <C.F.deVroege@...>
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Subject: Result 'Wageningen' 10K 21-3-2005 		heyakeessie
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(Venue: Thialf)

1  Casper Helling    13:57.91
2  Jasper van Tol    14:15.16
3  Ted-Jan Bloemen   14:35.10
4  Timo Verkaaik     14:39.23
5  Arno Hendrikse    14:40.97
6  Harm Smit         15:20.02
7  Jan Westveen      15:26.62
8  Thomas Kool       15:32.52
9  Bernd Zweden      15:34.55
10 Elwin den Dulk    15:39.59
11 Michiel Kool      15:53.06
12 Piet Griffioen    15:59.67
13 Harco Haagsma     16:07.14
14 Marc de Haas      16:26.36
15 Simon Polstra     16:34.71
16 Jan Fekke Ybema   16:41.76
17 Sander Jansen     16:56.16
18 Jack Schoenmakers 17:16.81
19 Arjan Mulder      17:23.88
20 Nadine Bruineberg 17:37.34 (D)
21 Wim Nieuwenhuizen 17:44.71
22 Pim van Leeuwen   18:02.52

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#24964 From: "iwoet73" <Ewout_van_Schaick@...>
Date: Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:42 am
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So, next season no international meets in for example: Nagano,
Harbin, Seoul, Moscow, Tjseljabinsk, Goteborg, Berlin, Innsbruck,
Helsinki.



--- In Speed_skating@yahoogroups.com, "Steph" <suprgrltx@y...> wrote:
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> It looks like there is a tentative schedule for next year's WC's.
> It's as follows.
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> NOV 12-13 World Cup Long Track (mid/long dist & pursuit) LT
>  Calgary, Alberta
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> NOV 18-20 World Cup Long Track (all dist & pursuit) LT
>  Salt Lake City, UT
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> NOV 26-27 World Cup Long Track (sprint) LT Milwaukee, WI
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> DEC 3-4 World Cup Long Track (mid/long dist) LT
	 Heerenveen,
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> DEC 9-11 World Cup Long Track (all dist & pursuit) LT
>  Torino, ITA
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> DEC 17-18 World Cup Long Track (sprint) LT Inzell, GER
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> JAN 21-22 World Sprint Championships LT Heerenveen,
> NED
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> JAN 28-29 World Cup Long Track (sprint) LT Collalbo, ITA
>
> FEB 10-26 Olympic Winter Games LT/ST Torino, ITA
>
> MAR 3-5 World Cup Long Track (all distances) LT
	 Heerenveen,
> Netherlands
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> MAR 10-12 World Junior Championships LT Erfurt, GER
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> MAR 18-19 World Allround Championships LT Calgary,
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#24963 From: "Kenth Borgstrom" <kenthborg@...>
Date: Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:01 pm
Subject: Complete results from Tsjeljabinsk! 		kenthborg@...
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RUSSIAN SPRINT CHAMPIONSHIPS 2005 -  Tsjeljabinsk-UM 19/20-03-2005

    MEN SPRINT                          500m      1000m       500m       1000m
  1 Dmitrij Lobkov        N Novgorod    35.69( 1) 1.11.69( 1) 35.53 ( 1) 1.12.25
( 1) 143.190
  2 Aleksej Prosjin       Krasnojarsk   36.49( 2) 1.12.00( 2) 37.03 ( 5) 1.12.73
( 2) 145.885
  3 Sergej Kornilov/1978  StPetersburg  36.72( 3) 1.12.77( 3) 36.12 ( 2) 1.13.49
( 6) 145.970
  4 Valerij Tarasov       Samara        37.07( 5) 1.12.79( 4) 37.02 ( 4) 1.12.74
( 4) 146.855
  5 Maksim Bosenko        StPetersburg  37.02( 4) 1.13.54( 6) 36.76 ( 3) 1.13.78
( 7) 147.440
  6 Vitalij Fjodorov      StPetersburg  38.28(22) 1.12.79( 4) 37.17 ( 7) 1.12.73
( 2) 148.210
  7 Ilja Davletov         Novouralsk    37.63(13) 1.14.23( 9) 37.12 ( 6) 1.13.46
( 5) 148.595
  8 Igor Nefedjev         StPetersburg  37.62(12) 1.13.90( 7) 37.45 (13) 1.13.79
( 8) 148.915
  9 Sergej Zjilskij       StPetersburg  37.40( 8) 1.13.94( 8) 37.42 (12) 1.14.39
( 9) 148.985
10 Viktor Glustsjenko    Tsjeljabinsk  37.26( 6) 1.15.05(13) 37.20 ( 8) 1.14.99
(12) 149.480
11 Nikita Bazjanov       Troitsk       38.13(19) 1.14.82(10) 37.75 (17) 1.14.83
(10) 150.705
12 Maksim Morgaslepov    Krasnojarsk   37.70(16) 1.15.32(16) 37.71 (16) 1.15.34
(14) 150.740
13 Aleksej Sakharov      Tsjerepovets  37.58(11) 1.16.15(23) 37.64 (15) 1.14.98
(11) 150.785
14 Ivan Serebrennikov    Tsjeljabinsk  37.54(10) 1.15.76(18) 37.34 (11) 1.16.12
(16) 150.820
15 Sergej Borodin        Tsjeljabinsk  37.69(15) 1.16.02(21) 37.28 ( 9) 1.16.23
(20) 151.095
16 Dmitrij Burkov        Lesnoj        37.63(13) 1.15.01(11) 37.84 (20) 1.16.29
(21) 151.120
17 Aleksandr Lebedev     Moskva        38.22(21) 1.15.31(15) 37.84 (20) 1.15.01
(13) 151.220
18 Pavel Tsjernov        StPeterburg   37.86(17) 1.15.91(19) 37.32 (10) 1.16.54
(24) 151.405
19 Aleksej Abramov       Kirov         38.01(18) 1.16.06(22) 37.63 (14) 1.16.92
(28) 152.130
20 Dmitrij Tsjikunov     Khabarovsk    38.42(24) 1.15.97(20) 38.18 (26) 1.16.12
(16) 152.645
21 Dmitrij Bogdanov      Tsjeljabinsk  38.80(31) 1.15.28(14) 38.25 (27) 1.16.50
(23) 152.940
22 Jevgenij Amelin       Tsjeljabinsk  38.64(28) 1.16.25(24) 37.99 (24) 1.16.39
(22) 152.950
23 Igor Zakharov         Tsjerepovets  38.42(24) 1.17.26(33) 38.07 (25) 1.16.08
(15) 153.160
24 Ivan Sizov            Tsjeljabinsk  38.44(26) 1.17.19(32) 37.86 (23) 1.16.68
(25) 153.235
25 Daniil Portnov        Kirov         38.57(27) 1.16.85(27) 37.83 (19) 1.17.20
(30) 153.425
26 Artjom Vettsjanin     Krasnojarsk   38.71(30) 1.16.44(25) 38.51 (30) 1.16.12
(16) 153.500
27 Jevgenij Aljunin      Jekaterinburg 38.14(20) 1.16.99(30) 37.85 (22) 1.18.32
(34) 153.645
28 Vitalij Vazjnin       Khabarovsk    38.98(34) 1.16.99(30) 38.87 (36) 1.16.13
(19) 154.410
29 Denis Plesjakov       N Novgorod    38.37(23) 1.16.87(29) 38.41 (29) 1.18.74
(35) 154.585
30 Dmitrij Gusev/1986    Vologda       38.84(32) 1.18.07(38) 38.69 (32) 1.17.06
(29) 155.095
31 Nikolaj Malinovskij   Khabarovsk    39.53(35) 1.17.75(36) 38.73 (33) 1.17.39
(31) 155.830
32 Aleksandr Glustsjenko Tsjeljabinsk  38.68(29) 1.18.73(40) 38.74 (34) 1.19.01
(36) 156.290
33 Anton Sergejev        Tsjeljabinsk  39.68(36) 1.18.05(37) 39.46 (37) 1.19.50
(38) 157.915
34 Ivan Martynenko       Tsjeljabinsk  39.82(37) 1.17.26(33) 45.29 (39) 1.17.41
(32) 162.445
35 Andrej Samtsjik       Zelenodolsk   40.80(39) 1.21.41(42) 40.51 (38) 1.21.21
(39) 162.620
36 Roman Moskvinov       Vologda       58.78(40) 1.17.36(35) 38.75 (35) 1.17.50
(33) 174.960
37 Denis Beljakov        N Novgorod    38.96(33) 1.18.53(39) 58.99 (40) 1.19.25
(37) 176.840
38 Jevgenij Starovojtov  Birobidzjan   61.95(41) 1.16.86(28) 38.60 (31) 1.16.90
(26) 177.430
39 Mikhail Zjuzjgin      Jekaterinburg 63.73(42) 1.16.79(26) 38.40 (28) 1.16.91
(27) 178.980
    Oleg Kitsjigin        Syktyvkar     37.42( 9) 1.15.04(12) 37.80 (18) dns
    Igor Bogoljubskij     Tsjeljabinsk  37.38( 7) 1.15.40(17) 69.55f(41) dns
    Artjom Kuznetsov      Tsjerepovets  40.53(38) 1.19.68(41) dns

    LADIES SPRINT                       500m      1000m       500m       1000m
  1 Svetlana Zjurova      StPetersburg  39.40( 1) 1.19.53( 1) 39.92 ( 2) 1.18.51
( 1) 158.340
  2 Svetlana Kajkan       Tsjeljabinsk  39.44( 2) 1.20.28( 2) 39.12 ( 1) 1.20.24
( 2) 158.820
  3 Jekaterina Lobysjeva  Kolomna       40.57( 3) 1.20.77( 3) 40.45 ( 4) 1.20.92
( 3) 161.865
  4 Jekaterina Malysjeva  Tsjeljabinsk  40.70( 5) 1.21.27( 4) 40.91 ( 5) 1.21.63
( 5) 163.060
  5 Jelena Rudina         Tsjeljabinsk  41.46( 9) 1.22.03( 6) 41.10 ( 6) 1.21.20
( 4) 164.175
  6 Natalja Tsjerepanova  Angarsk       41.18( 6) 1.21.80( 5) 41.13 ( 7) 1.21.96
( 6) 164.190
  7 Alla Sjabanova        Kolomna       41.49(10) 1.22.23( 7) 41.62 (10) 1.22.05
( 7) 165.250
  8 Jadviga Gorbova       StPetersburg  41.40( 7) 1.22.93( 9) 41.23 ( 8) 1.22.77
( 8) 165.480
  9 Margarita Tsjempalova Tsjeljabinsk  41.40( 7) 1.23.97(10) 41.42 ( 9) 1.23.60
( 9) 166.605
10 Irina Arsjinova       Tsjeljabinsk  42.34(13) 1.24.79(11) 41.84 (11) 1.24.97
(10) 169.060
11 Oksana Ivankiv        Jekaterinburg 42.65(14) 1.25.79(12) 42.00 (12) 1.25.37
(11) 170.230
12 Olga Blednykh         Kirov         41.79(11) 1.26.79(13) 42.00 (12) 1.27.49
(15) 170.930
13 Irina Stsjepina       Syktyvkar     42.07(12) 1.27.65(16) 42.36 (15) 1.27.31
(14) 171.910
14 Anna Smirnova         StPetersburg  43.03(16) 1.27.62(15) 42.22 (14) 1.26.16
(12) 172.140
15 Svetlana Lutsjinina   Kirov         42.80(15) 1.27.34(14) 42.78 (16) 1.26.67
(13) 172.585
16 Marija Mjasnikova     Vologda       43.67(17) 1.27.67(17) 43.28 (17) 1.28.25
(17) 174.910
17 Vera Dedjurina        Tsjeljabinsk  43.76(19) 1.28.21(18) 43.76 (19) 1.29.67
(18) 176.460
18 Jelena Poskrjobysjeva Kirov         43.73(18) 1.28.99(19) 43.31 (18) 1.30.20
(19) 176.635
19 Dina Bakunina         Tsjeljabinsk  44.36(20) 1.29.12(20) 45.03 (20) 1.27.99
(16) 177.945
20 Irina Kretsjetova     Jekaterinburg 44.74(21) 1.32.51(21) 45.12 (21) 1.32.11
(20) 182.170
21 Julija Nemaja         Khabarovsk    40.58( 4) 1.22.82( 8) 40.23 ( 3)
2.18.42f(21) 191.430
    Jekaterina Lukojanova Zelenodolsk   dns

  RUSSIAN ALLROUND CHAMPIONSHIPS 2005 - Tsjeljabinsk-UM 17/18-03-2005

    MEN ALLROUND                         500m       5000m       1500m      
10000m
  1 Ivan Skobrev           St Petersburg 37.09 ( 1) 6.42.58( 2) 1.50.63( 2)
13.59.36( 2) 156.192
  2 Dmitrij Sjepel         St Petersburg 37.27 ( 2) 6.47.49( 4) 1.50.14( 1)
14.10.58( 5) 157.261
  3 Andrej Burljajev       Barnaul       37.74 ( 4) 6.45.27( 3) 1.51.05( 3)
14.05.10( 4) 157.538
  4 Anatolij Krasjeninin   Tsjeljabinsk  39.39 (25) 6.42.46( 1) 1.54.19(10)
13.54.29( 1) 159.413
  5 Artjom Detysjev        Angarsk       39.07 (22) 6.49.11( 6) 1.51.92( 4)
14.16.95( 6) 160.134
  6 Anton Kasjin           Ivanovo       38.64 ( 9) 7.06.77(15) 1.53.31( 5)
14.36.31( 8) 162.902
  7 Artjom Belousov        Salavat       40.19 (32) 6.56.78( 7) 1.57.76(29)
13.59.49( 3) 163.095
  8 Aleksandr Aksjonov     Angarsk       39.01 (19) 7.02.02( 8) 1.55.10(15)
14.34.87( 7) 163.321
  9 Denis Timakov          N Novgorod    37.70 ( 3) 7.06.40(13) 1.53.58( 7)
15.04.78(11) 163.439
10 Aleksandr Rudopysov    Omsk          38.69 (10) 7.06.50(14) 1.54.41(11)
14.57.88(10) 164.370
11 Pavel Bajnov           Tsjeljabinsk  39.06 (21) 7.02.94( 9) 1.55.05(14)
14.56.76( 9) 164.542
12 Aleksej Aleksejev      Moskva        38.75 (13) 7.05.28(10) 1.54.96(13)
15.16.00(13) 165.398
13 Aleksandr Bragin       Jekaterinburg 38.74 (12) 7.11.33(27) 1.53.35( 6)
15.19.73(14) 165.642
14 Aleksandr Kazmin/1980  Rjazanj       38.54 ( 7) 7.08.52(24) 1.53.62( 8)
15.34.66(15) 165.998
15 Aleksej Nikerin        Omsk          40.36 (33) 7.05.28(10) 1.54.67(12)
15.07.76(12) 166.499
    Stepan Solovjev        Tsjeljabinsk  38.22 ( 5) 7.07.04(16) 1.56.29(22) disk
119.687
    Jevgenij Sergejev/1982 StPetersburg  38.33 ( 6) 7.08.11(22) 1.55.65(18)
119.691
    Daniil Dudjev          Barnaul       39.12 (23) 7.08.47(23) 1.53.97( 9)
119.957
    Mikhail Korsakov/1986  Ivanovo       38.86 (16) 7.07.63(17) 1.55.44(16)
120.103
    Aleksej Junin          Moskva        38.84 (14) 7.08.07(21) 1.55.89(19)
120.277
    Sergej Grjaztsov       Moskva        38.91 (17) 7.07.75(18) 1.57.05(24)
120.701
    Jurij Tjuzjin          Jekaterinburg 39.58 (27) 7.06.34(12) 1.56.11(21)
120.917
    Dmitrij Demakov        Khabarovsk    38.63 ( 8) 7.13.64(28) 1.57.21(26)
121.064
    Sergej Berezovskij     Omsk          39.69 (28) 7.10.94(26) 1.56.01(20)
121.454
    Maksim Petrenko        Tsjeljabinsk  39.55 (26) 7.07.95(20) 1.58.02(30)
121.685
    Anatolij Berezovskij   Omsk          39.91 (31) 7.10.92(25) 1.56.87(23)
121.958
    Maksim Kozlov          Omsk          38.71 (11) 7.22.57(30) 1.57.26(27)
122.053
    Aleksandr Oresjkin     Tsjeljabinsk  38.84 (14) 7.23.13(31) 1.57.65(28)
122.369
    Dmitrij Pronitsjev     Arkhangelsk   39.01 (19) 7.24.26(33) 1.57.10(25)
122.469
    Aleksandr Bezmaternykh Krasnojarsk   38.93 (18) 7.19.34(29) 1.59.17(32)
122.587
    Viktor Konovalov       StPetersburg  39.75 (30) 7.23.84(32) 1.58.18(31)
123.527
    Oleg Kosygin           Irkutsk       39.73 (29) 7.24.26(33) 2.00.49(34)
124.319
    Alfred Batyjev         Ufa           39.37 (24) 7.33.83(37) 2.00.71(35)
124.989
    Nikita Malgin          Tsjeljabinsk  41.12 (35) 7.26.71(36) 2.04.57(36)
127.314
    Rustam Safin           Ufa           58.81 (36) 7.25.35(35) 2.00.41(33)
143.481
    Aleksandr Vetlugin     Jekaterinburg disk       7.07.89(19) 1.55.53(17)
    Jurij Kokhanets        Divnogorsk    40.75 (34) 6.49.06( 5) dns
    Aleksej Jesin          Kolomna       116.52(37) dns

    LADIES ALLROUND                      500m       3000m       1500m       5000m
  1 Svetlana Vysokova      Perm          41.08 ( 4) 4.14.64( 1) 2.02.57( 2)
7.24.99 ( 1) 168.875
  2 Olga Tarasova          Irkutsk       40.37 ( 1) 4.21.63( 2) 2.01.69( 1)
7.41.21 ( 2) 170.659
  3 Julija Skokova         Jekaterinburg 40.69 ( 3) 4.28.88( 4) 2.03.13( 3)
7.42.38 ( 3) 172.784
  4 Jekaterina Abramova    StPetersburg  40.68 ( 2) 4.28.21( 3) 2.06.16( 4)
7.45.19 ( 4) 173.953
  5 Tatjana Sjatsjkova     Pervouralsk   42.50 ( 8) 4.31.65( 6) 2.06.45( 5)
7.46.25 ( 5) 176.550
  6 Svetlana Muta          Tsjeljabinsk  41.75 ( 5) 4.32.98( 7) 2.09.50( 8)
7.53.85 ( 8) 177.797
  7 Olga Sadkova           StPetersburg  42.11 ( 6) 4.35.25( 8) 2.08.10( 6)
7.56.55 ( 9) 178.340
  8 Lada Zadonskaja        Moskva        43.13 (12) 4.36.57( 9) 2.10.72(10)
7.51.23 ( 6) 179.921
  9 Irina Bezprizvannaja   Seversk       42.70 ( 9) 4.38.97(13) 2.09.22( 7)
8.00.38 (10) 180.306
10 Viktorija Rusaljova    Omsk          43.26 (16) 4.37.89(10) 2.12.55(13)
7.53.03 ( 7) 181.061
11 Marina Lozovaja        StPetersburg  42.83 (11) 4.43.83(14) 2.10.57( 9)
8.18.72 (11) 183.530
12 Polina Semjonova       Arkhangelsk   43.51 (17) 4.49.69(20) 2.13.90(15)
8.23.34 (12) 186.758
13 Julija Karangina       Zelenodolsk   42.79 (10) 4.51.63(24) 2.14.74(16)
8.27.51 (13) 187.059
14 Natalja Persjakova     StPetersburg  43.93 (20) 4.48.58(19) 2.15.03(18)
8.29.76 (14) 188.012
15 Natalja Lebedeva       StPetersburg  43.20 (14) 4.51.32(23) 2.15.85(22)
8.36.83 (15) 188.719
    Olga Graf              Omsk          43.86 (19) 4.45.87(17) 2.12.46(12) disk
135.658
    Tatjana Beljavina      Jekaterinburg 44.79 (25) 4.38.41(11) 2.11.09(11)
134.887
    Jana Kosykh            Jekaterinburg 43.23 (15) 4.45.95(18) 2.12.75(14)
135.138
    Irina Trutajeva        Tsjeljabinsk  43.68 (18) 4.50.49(22) 2.17.20(24)
137.828
    Marija Volkodav        Tsjeljabinsk  44.07 (21) 4.52.96(25) 2.14.91(17)
137.866
    Anastasija Jakovleva   Ufa           44.81 (26) 4.44.30(16) 2.17.04(23)
137.873
    Ljubov Kuryljova       N Novgorod    44.54 (22) 4.50.00(21) 2.15.78(20)
138.133
    Jelena Kozlova/1983    Seversk       44.66 (23) 4.55.35(28) 2.15.80(21)
139.151
    Lilija Nagimova        Ufa           44.75 (24) 4.54.79(27) 2.18.91(25)
140.184
    Julija Gejer           Ufa           45.11 (27) 4.53.49(26) 2.20.62(26)
140.898
    Galina Likhatsjova     Jekaterinburg 42.16 ( 7) 4.29.87( 5) dns
    Tatjana Bodjagina      Ivanovo       43.15 (13) 4.38.85(12) dns
    Anastasija Levina      Seversk       disk       4.43.89(15) 2.15.66(19)


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#24962 From: "John Diemont" <speedskating@...>
Date: Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:53 pm
Subject: Re: Heerenveen summer Ice 		jrdiemont
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--- In Speed_skating@yahoogroups.com, "Harm van den Belt" <ha.vdbelt@h...>
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> There will be ice on the indoor 400 m track at
> Thialf Heerenveen from saterday 18 june until  saterday 9 july 2005
>
> Harm

"Hello Buddies,

"That's really great to have all that summer ice in different countries. that's
the great asset
of having indoor 400m tracks. It also helps out with training, or does it help?
Back when
we didn't have refrigerated rinks, we did dry-land, and cycling, to get us
prepared for that
moment of actually getting ice. It's interesting that we perceive certain
methods, in
training for these circumstances. My friend Jan Roelof send me this tape of the
early
speedskaters, training in Holland and Norway,  they all worked together seemed
that they
pretty much shared their knowledge with each other in perusing faster times.It's
great...jd

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#24961 From: "teigenmagne" <teigenmagne@...>
Date: Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:10 pm
Subject: Fastest outdoor 500 m Norwegian rink 		teigenmagne@...
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Update !
Rink record KONGSBERG IDRETTSPARK
    37,6   Stian Haugsrud                      NOR  13-01-2002

Magne

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#24960 From: "Harm van den Belt" <ha.vdbelt@...>
Date: Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:36 pm
Subject: Heerenveen summer Ice 		harm2skate
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There will be ice on the indoor 400 m track at
Thialf Heerenveen from saterday 18 june until  saterday 9 july 2005

Harm

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