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Re: [Skate] Olympic qualification times

Is this the same tournament that has as its motto
"participation is more important than winning" ?

They should state lowland and highland limits for both indoor and outdoor
rinks, imho

When you skate in the open air on a lowland rink some of these limits are
too though
for even skaters like Shani Davis, Sven Kramer Anni Friesinger or Cindy
Classen.

Some people -or their unions- just cannot afford a trip to SLC or Calgary.

Dirk
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From: "Marcel Warnaar" <mwarnaar@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 10:28 PM
To: <Speed_skating@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Skate] Olympic qualification times

> These are very sharp qualification times. I guess potential candidates at
> least have to go to Calgary or SLC to skate these times. And even then: I
> calculated how many skaters would start, based on past season's results.
> So,
> with the World Cups as qualifying events and with these qualification
> times.
> Apart from the longest distances (with 16 participants), only the 1000m
> men
> would have a full quota (40 participants).
>
> The other distances:
> 500 m women: 34 (out of 36)
> 1000 m women: 34 (out of 36)
> 1500 m women: 27 (out of 36)
> 3000 m women: 21 (out of 28)
>
> 500 m men: 36 (out of 40)
> 1000 m men: 40 (out of 40)
> 1500 m men: 33 (out of 40)
> 5000 m men: 25 (out of 28)
>
> Marcel
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marnix Koolhaas" <m.koolhaas@...>
> To: <Speed_skating@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 3:31 AM
> Subject: [Skate] Olympic qualification times
>
>
>> Everybody asleep or nobody interested?
>>
>> In Ushuaia it is the talk of the town!
>>
>>
>>
>> 500 m
>>
>> 39,50
>>
>> 36,00
>>
>> 1000 m
>>
>> 1.18,50
>>
>> 1.11,00
>>
>> 1500 m
>>
>> 2.00,00
>>
>> 1.49,00
>>
>> 3000 m
>>
>> 4.15,00
>>
>> n.a.
>>
>> 5000 m
>>
>> 7.20,00 or 4.10,00 (3000 m)
>>
>> 6.35,00
>>
>> 10 0000 m
>>
>> n.a.
>>
>> 13.30.00 or 6.30.00 (5000 m)
>>
>>





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Everybody asleep or nobody interested? In Ushuaia it is the talk of the town! 500 m 39,50 36,00 1000 m 1.18,50 1.11,00 1500 m 2.00,00 1.49,00 3000 m 4.15,00 ...
Marnix Koolhaas
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Jul 10, 2009
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... Actually, I see a lot of skaters that will miss these marks in Vancouver.... I think that is funny you have to skate faster than what you will skate at...
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Jul 11, 2009
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... When speed skating was Norway's most popular winter sports, the totally amateur participants from 'exotic' countries were always among the public's...
T.B.Hansen
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Jul 11, 2009
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... No it's not. The IOC has imposed a limit on the number of speed skating competitors, so the ISU needs some way to select them....
Jeroen Heijmans
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Jul 12, 2009
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... ISU needs some way to select them. ... The ISU started its limitation policy long before the IOC came to think of it, and they apply them to their own ISU...
T.B.Hansen
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Jul 12, 2009
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... Well, as a matter of fact there was no participation limit until the 1924 OG where each country could enter only 4 skaters in each distance. As this...
Lars Finsen
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Jul 13, 2009
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... That's national quotas. Qualification times were introduced by the ISU in the 1980's; originally to avoid skaters from Spain and Greece. ... TBH...
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Jul 13, 2009
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... Well, yeah, but your remark was that "speed skating is hurting itself by limiting its participation (...) to pursuit a dream of live TV coverage", which is...
Jeroen Heijmans
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Jul 14, 2009
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... It was a general comment on ISU politics, aimed at the comment to the post about Olympic time limits; not at the post about the limits itself. ... Without...
T.B.Hansen
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Jul 17, 2009
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TB Hansen; "Without national quotas, that would mean that the bulk of the participants would come from a few countries, and that there would be no...
Patrick Seltsam
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Jul 17, 2009
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Patrick, I agree 100% with you. As long as you speak of World Cups, World Championships, or the like. Why does speedskating even have national quotas is...
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Jul 17, 2009
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... Speed skating surely needs to focus on popularity in the few countries where it's already popular. But that's not the same thing as keeping other countries...
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Jul 18, 2009
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These are very sharp qualification times. I guess potential candidates at least have to go to Calgary or SLC to skate these times. And even then: I calculated...
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Jul 11, 2009
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Is this the same tournament that has as its motto "participation is more important than winning" ? They should state lowland and highland limits for both...
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Jul 11, 2009
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