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Re: [Skate] Re: Boekko vs de Jong on the 5000-m


Den 1. feb. 2008 kl. 23.45 skreiv C. van Staaveren:

> Lars Finsen is commenting someone who clearly loves allround and not
> emphasizing on the distances. That should warm our hart : HE's
> advertizing alround championships...

Well, the world cup was invented to curb this disease, that of
skaters preferring to appear only in the big championships. This idea
has received some knocks in later years, and this is another blow.

Now, perhaps arranging a world cup one week before the World
Championship perhaps isn't such a good idea. But what else can we do?
Should we have the weekend without skating? This is what we'll get in
the future if this becomes a trend. A pure sprint event might be an
alternative, though.

I must add that I haven't lost all my admiration for him. Far from
it. But it is because of skaters like him that we fans love our
Wednesday skaters so much. Because they deliver and give us the wares
week by week, and then someone who hasn't delivered comes and
snatches the championships away from them.

Of course, Kramer has delivered quite a bit this season. Perhaps he
deserves some rest. But does he need it? Has he increased his chances
for winning by resting so much these last weeks? I would have thought
we was a pretty safe bet for the laurels anyway.

Yes, of course, we Norwegians will tend to (secretly) wish for Kramer
to get tired of skating, that would make it much easier for us to
finally get a champion again. But we want most of all to get a
champion with Kramer present at his best form.

I wish him all the best.

Greetings,
LEF




Sat Feb 2, 2008 12:26 am

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http://www.knsb.nl/KNSB-nieuws/vervolg_ndb.asp?ID=5199 Verheijen -- Hirako Boekko -- de Jong Prinsen -- Hedrick Friesinger -- Klassen But where is the full...
Nils Lid Hjort
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Feb 1, 2008
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Sven Kramer in his column in De Telegraaf today: 'I have to defend my worldtitle next week in Berlin. Therefor i fly to Berlin today, while other skaters start...
Hans Wilbrink
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Feb 1, 2008
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... It's a pity ... anymore. ... different ... Well, in the shape Kramer seems to be in now, most likely he would both win the 5k worldcupclassement and...
Rolf Røsok
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Feb 1, 2008
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... I am afraid my admiration for Kramer is lessening. LEF...
Lars Finsen
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Feb 1, 2008
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... And mine for Håvard Bøkko's growing. Anyway, with this kind of considerations already at 21, I'm afraid that Kramer's career will be a short one....
T.B.Hansen
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Feb 1, 2008
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... I see there is neither Wust or van Deutekom on 1500/3000, so I believe this is a common Dutch strategy. Rolf R....
Rolf Røsok
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Feb 1, 2008
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GRIN Lars Finsen is commenting someone who clearly loves allround and not emphasizing on the distances. That should warm our hart : HE's advertizing alround...
C. van Staaveren
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Feb 1, 2008
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... Well, the world cup was invented to curb this disease, that of skaters preferring to appear only in the big championships. This idea has received some...
Lars Finsen
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Feb 2, 2008
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Can't find it anymore, but somewhere I read that Dutch coaches very strongly advised and asked before the season to switch the Baselga and Inzell World Cup...
Jos Kloppenborg
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Feb 2, 2008
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In this subject I have some understanding for Kramers decision, and I agree with Caroline; we shall be glad for this kind of concentration for the WCh. This...
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... From: "T.B.Hansen" <speedskating@...> To: <Speed_skating@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 11:38 PM Subject: [Skate] Re: Boekko...
Kjell Pettersen
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Explain, please. You mean: to make them pay as much as possible? If the sprint and allround world cup were switched (Baselga/Inzell), then - the sprinters...
Irene Postma
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... If I was a sponosr, I would say I paid a skater to show up wherever he was supposed to skate. Skipping one meet means not going to work for that week... Of...
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... So, the speed skating has developed into only a job then... ... Or maybe it will mean MORE media attention for the ECh and WCh? Remember WCh in...
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... Unfortunately, top level sports today are governed by principles from business management and marketing. ... cross-country skiing in the "old days", when...
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... ___ No one can tell exact how the alternative history might would have been, and you`re probably right mention the need of advertising, but nevertheless:...
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... I'm sure it is. Remember, in the days before the World Cup, there were also speed skating meets every weekend. Even if most of them were national, in both...
T.B.Hansen
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Feb 4, 2008
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... I think you will need to go back to the early 70s for this to apply. And then most of the events were international. The World Cup came more than 10 years...
Lars Finsen
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I agree in most of LEF's comments to TBH here. But please change the subject title once in a while -- this is not about Boekko who sadly never met de Jong on...
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Feb 4, 2008
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Give me back the Interlands and the "Classic" meets, which were all (?) more allround than the World-Cup circus, and gave a broad group of skaters per nation a...
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... I do have an excellent memory -- though not always 100 exact, as my brain is automatically cross-referencing in a way that might lead to some confusion of...
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