Re: [Skate] AP: Hedrick Breaks World Speedskating Record
They were the US LT National Championships.
Jos
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Subject: Re: [Skate] AP: Hedrick Breaks World Speedskating Record
>> Hedrick Breaks World Speedskating Record
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> But did he, actually?
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> At least in the old days, WRs were only recognized if set in international
> meets or national championships. So, unless the rules are changed, whether
> this is a World Record or a mere "world's best mark" depends on whether
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> meet is classified as a National Championship or not. A national Olympic
> qualification meet would not do.
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Jeroen Heijmans
skatelist@...
Jan 1, 2006 11:32 am
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skatelist@...
Jan 1, 2006 8:34 pm
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skatelist@...
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