Search the web
Sign In
New User? Sign Up
Speed_skating · Speed Skating
? Already a member? Sign in to Yahoo!

Yahoo! Groups Tips

Did you know...
Show off your group to the world. Share a photo of your group with us.

Best of Y! Groups

   Check them out and nominate your group.
Having problems with message search? Fill out this form to ensure your group is one of the first to be migrated to the new message search system.

Messages

  Messages Help
Advanced
Do you want more allround speed skating?   Message List  
Reply | Forward Message #25094 of 45198 |
Re: [Skate] Do you want more allround speed skating?

I've noticed that the Americans use 'All around'
However, the official ISU term is 'Allround'.

The Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary gives:
"all-round adj. having ability in many different ways: an all-round
sportsman, good at many different games and sports. Hence, an all-rounder."

I remember how surprised I was in 1997 or thereabouts to hear Diane Holum
talk about 'the all around'. It feels wrong to me, and it's not in my
English dictionary. Any other countries that use that term besides the
Americans?

--
Irene P.
Publisher/Editor Speedskating World

o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o
o.o.o.o.o.o.o.MAY.GOD.BLESS.YOU.o.o.o.o.o.o.o
o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o


> From: Timothy Demerjian <speed_skating@...>
> Reply-To: Speed_skating@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 04:01:40 -0700
> To: Speed_skating@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Skate] Do you want more allround speed skating?
>
> Is it "allround," or "all around?" If you mean, multi-distance rather than
> single distance, absolutely! It gives no one any indication of how adept a
> speedskater is in their performance of a particular event if you only are
> aware of their times in a single distance.

> If then it is an all around event, where obviously the ranking is based on
> overall time combined from a set selection of different distances, there
> then exists more variables by which to gauge the quality of the skater.

> to another? If they are the all around winner, were they more consistent in
> technique and lap times than the second-best skater? Or was it a factor of
> how well their starts were, perhaps a real bad start that held them back
> from being in the top three for the all around?
>
> Considering all this, it would be more enticing to the spectator, or fellow
> speedskater, to be more interested in such a format of "all around," vs.
> single distance.
>
> Tim Demerjian, RRT
> Sumas, WA USA
> Puget Sound Speedskating Association




Mon May 9, 2005 11:48 am

bachliefhebber
Offline Offline
Send Email Send Email

Forward
Message #25094 of 45198 |
Expand Messages Author Sort by Date

It is silent at the list now, so I want to try to start a discussion about how to get more allround into speed skating. I have thought about this and I have...
Arild Jensen
arild.jensen@...
Send Email
May 8, 2005
10:10 pm

Is it "allround," or "all around?" If you mean, multi-distance rather than single distance, absolutely! It gives no one any indication of how adept a ...
Timothy Demerjian
speed_skating71
Offline Send Email
May 9, 2005
11:01 am

I've noticed that the Americans use 'All around' However, the official ISU term is 'Allround'. The Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary gives: "all-round adj....
Irene Postma
bachliefhebber
Offline Send Email
May 9, 2005
11:46 am

Using the ISU term "allround" allows for fluidity in speech. Nontheless, it's probably understood by most that it pertains to an "all-around" variety of...
Timothy Demerjian
speed_skating71
Offline Send Email
May 9, 2005
12:44 pm

Tim, I'm saying that what you call 'all-around' is not in the English dictionary. It seems to be only an American term. -- Irene P. Publisher/Editor...
Irene Postma
bachliefhebber
Offline Send Email
May 9, 2005
12:53 pm

Irene, you're only going to have me find humor in myself, in that I made up the term "all-around" based on my interpretation of what the word allround might...
Timothy Demerjian
speed_skating71
Offline Send Email
May 9, 2005
9:32 pm

I have just read the mails at the Yahoo list, and I think I have only found 3 readers who wants to discuss this. I am a little sad that more readers will not...
Arild Jensen
arild.jensen@...
Send Email
May 12, 2005
9:32 pm

I don't have any ideas myself, but I'm curious about yours, Arild. I would also like to know if you think your ideas have a serious chance, since the calendar...
Jeroen Heijmans
skate@...
Send Email
May 12, 2005
9:48 pm

... Since I have stated my views on this several times in the past, and they have (like most, but not all, of my views) not changed, I thought I would not risk...
Tore Jan Narvestad
tjn@...
Send Email
May 13, 2005
6:26 am

As long as I think my contribution may be helpful, I am willing to discuss anything on the list, even allround :-). Seriously, especially allround. Marcel ... ...
Marcel Warnaar
mfwarnaar
Offline Send Email
May 13, 2005
8:05 am

I still prefer allround at the olympics. I already made some proposals about this in the past. I also prefer an overall worldcup ranking including samalog...
Gerrit Stevens
gerritjstevens
Offline Send Email
May 14, 2005
7:08 pm

Hello friends I have been rather busy the last days arranging an reunion for my class at secondary school so I have not had time to continue the discussion...
Arild Jensen
arild.jensen@...
Send Email
May 24, 2005
4:46 pm
Advanced

Copyright © 2009 Yahoo! Inc. All rights reserved.
Privacy Policy - Terms of Service - Guidelines - Help